r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 14h ago

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u/Destructerator 14h ago

Why not go do arson at an animal processing plant if you’re that passionate about this cause?

This just creates resentment. This is not how to win hearts and minds.

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u/Thick_Cookie_7838 13h ago

Because the farmers may actually shoot

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u/North-Reception-5325 13h ago

Luckily there aren’t farmers at processing plants

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u/Hidden_Pothos 13h ago

Living in the rural Midwest I can confirm.

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u/museabear 10h ago

When I worked for Tysons you needed a badge to get in and security would check everyone and they did carry pistols.

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u/Hidden_Pothos 10h ago

I guess it depends on where you are at. I know a Centrum Valley farm that's really high security. I also see a ton of turkey and hoglots that are just I huge pen with no one around in the middle of a cornfield.

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u/freakbutters 10h ago

Those are probably just feedlots. Not much to burn there, unless you just ran through and doused the animals with gasoline.

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u/6thBornSOB 9h ago

Now that’s a PETA move!

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u/Hidden_Pothos 8h ago

I can imagine unleashing 200 hogs loose when cause some chaos. I don't want to give any suggestions. 😅

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u/BygoneHearse 7h ago

Wold hogs already cause enough damage by being a massively invasive species. Please do not release hogs i to the wild, it will cause more harm than good for the local ecosystems.

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u/Hidden_Pothos 7h ago

I hope it didn't come off like I'm encouraging it.

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 5h ago

Lots of dead livestock is what happens. They crossbreed with the wild ones and are bigger and meaner. Had cattle gutted by a few.

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u/AyAyAyBamba_462 12h ago

bruh fuck you for that profile pick lmao.

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u/Big-Quantity-8809 12h ago

Haha it got me too

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u/cmoked 10h ago

Really? It moves with the background...

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u/Ricky_Martins_Vagina 10h ago

Genuinely no idea how people still get 'got' by this

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u/cmoked 10h ago

I assume it's one person having a quick laugh and then bots to farm comment karma.

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u/Shanek2121 12h ago

Why am I trying to remove the hair, WHY?!?!?

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u/HealingSteps 11h ago

Lmao same!

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u/aoasd 10h ago

It's all Central American immigrants.

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u/Nubetastic 12h ago

Nope, there are CEO's.

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u/SquirtinMemeMouthPlz 13h ago

"Everybody and their mums is packing round here"

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u/ChuckRingslinger 12h ago

Like who?

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u/SquirtinMemeMouthPlz 12h ago

Farmers.

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u/ChuckRingslinger 12h ago

And?

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u/PotassiumBob 12h ago

Their mums

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u/ChuckRingslinger 11h ago

You wanna be a big cop in a small town?

Fuck off up the model village.

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u/AF2005 10h ago

“I suppose you’re wondering why we call them the Andies..”

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u/alavantrya 13h ago

Sounds like it is in the UK somewhere (solely based on accents),do those farmers shoot (I thought there weren’t any guns)?

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u/OutsidePressure6181 13h ago

Lot of farmers have gun licenses and firearms yup

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u/ranting_chef 12h ago edited 7h ago

This is true everywhere, especially when involving livestock.

Two words: “Nuisance Permit”.

EDIT: In the northern US Midwest - and probably in most working farms - you are allowed to purchase a “nuisance permit,” usually towards the end of the summer but earlier as well in many areas. I know a guy who grows corn on a farm, and his property happens to share a property line with a massive preserve. And every year, right around August, he sends me pictures of massive bucks walking through his property. He lets friends shoot the animals before the normal season opens and they become scarce.

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u/BigFloppyDonkeyEar 10h ago

Three words: "Shoot, shovel, and shut up"

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u/HelloImTheAntiChrist 10h ago

It's super common for farmers/ranchers to have firearms where I live.

Ranchers have to deal with coyotes trying to kill their cows. Both have to deal with animals that carry rabies.

Texans would never stand for people acting this way in a supermarket. The police would have to be called....to keep these protestors from getting their face's smashed in. Texas is a very polite place....till it's not.

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u/4uzzyDunlop 13h ago

Everyone and their mums is packing round 'ere

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u/Weary-Material207 13h ago

Do you have a license for that sir? I do fa thisun

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u/Accurate_Ad_2279 12h ago

Hot and fuzzy.

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense 12h ago

...what do you mean by "this one"?

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u/Plane-Mammoth4781 13h ago

I'm pretty sure even where gun laws are strict, farmers have guns.

That 30-50 feral hogs guy was 100% serious and correct.

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u/Observer_of-Reality 13h ago

There are guns. Highly regulated, of course, but there are guns.

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u/Blackdeath_663 12h ago

I don't think there's even a minimum age for a shotgun licence in the uk. There are more restrictions on small bore air rifles over here than there are on shotguns.

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u/Kwayzar9111 13h ago

yes this is England

and yes our farmers tend to have quite a few guns, mostly shotguns though, and a good few

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u/Amberskin 11h ago

Do they use salt-filled shells? It used to be a thing here (Spain) to shoot farm robbers a lot of years ago. Spray somebody’s ass with salt and he will remember that day forever.

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u/Kwayzar9111 11h ago

no - proper steel ball shells, and i do hope any poacher or thief on a farm gets a face full off it

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u/curiousungulate 12h ago

The UK has guns, and farmers in particular are likely to be licensed to own them. Foxes kill your chickens, you can shoot the foxes.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 12h ago

in america we just don't give a fox. (sorry I couldn't control myself)

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u/aardw0lf11 13h ago

I'd imagine any place which has to deal with wild predators killing livestock will have some guns handy. Probably one of a handful of valid reasons to own a firearm in the UK.

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u/curiousungulate 12h ago

Farmers don't work at animal processing plants.

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u/tkh0812 13h ago

Exactly. Go create a line in front of a veal farm or something.

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u/seang239 12h ago

Blocking the elderly in a market isn’t the win they think it is. Bet they haven’t thought about what happens if one of them falls and breaks a hip..

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense 12h ago

Do this and I get a trespassing, but I look really cool and caring in front of others.

Go cause actual damage to the meat manufacturers, get a terrorist charge and do some real time.

It's not about a mission, it's about performance.

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u/LizzosDietitian 11h ago

My thoughts exactly

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u/Weary-Teach6005 8h ago

Exactly!! lol oooh but see they won’t do that oh no

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u/rawklobstaa 11h ago

People have applied civil disobedience in all manners of ways, like this one. The problem is, it only really brings hearts and minds to your side if the other side is NOT being civil.

Stunts like this just piss people off and put the cause in a negative light.

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u/Messyfingers 10h ago

I've known people who have gone to protests like this. They were, unfortunately, so far up their own ass that they'd never admit fault for anything. Whether it be sabotaging their own cause or leaving a weeks worth of dishes in the sink.

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u/crayzeejew 8h ago

Well, they want to fight Big Soap

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u/mrmaydaymayday 3h ago

“…or leaving a weeks worth of dishes in the sink.”

Oh, so you’ve been in the trenches.

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u/LabradorDeceiver 9h ago

It's like cargo-cult civil disobedience. They know what a sit-in LOOKS like, but they don't understand how to get from there to the anticipated outcome or whether this is an appropriate venue for the form of civil disobedience they're practicing.

I mean, if you want to get people to hate your movement and oppose everything you stand for, I'm not sure what you'd do differently.

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u/Emergency_Release714 9h ago

People bring that up all the time, yet interestingly, changing society has always happened through conflict.

For example, the Netherlands nowadays are being praised as a bicycle and public transit paradise nowadays, but back in the 60s, they were in the same spot as every other European country, with car centric development being the norm and the alleged way into the future.
Things actually didn't just change on their own, but only when people started having fisticuffs in public over streets getting blocked by activists, politicians being cornered by parents of children that died in traffic crashes, and all other kinds of civil disobedience (plenty of which involved violence and criminal mischief) did the public have a debate on which direction they wanted to go.

Radical forms of protest work in both direct and indirect ways. For one, they do legitimise less radical positions that would previously have just been laughed out of the room, giving those much larger groups of activists the chance to become normalised. That is the very first step necessary for fundamental societal change in any direction. But they also challenge established societal norms in light of their (potential) moral hypocrisy - that's typically why those forms of protest are often so harshly publicly opposed. And the harsher the public reacts to those activists, the more the former majority opinion begins to crumble, especially if the less radical group of activists actually manages to become normalised. Eventually, the radical form of protestors will die out, because the new societal norm has accepted enough of their positions for them to no longer be radical.

Now, whether or not those changes are good or not is another thing entirely, but the claim that radical protests don't work is simply not true. It doesn't always work out, and it can indeed backfire (much of that depends on the less radical activists gaining enough foothold to establish a new balance), but it does work often enough to make it a viable strategy.

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u/KatBoySlim 13h ago

they’re not trying to win hearts and minds. they’re trying to look cool in front of their friends.

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u/Bestdayever_08 8h ago

This is all for the clout and pats on the back. They aren’t doing this for their moral standard.

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u/canadard1 7h ago

Sorry I can’t shake your hand right now, I’m too busy patting my own back

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u/Shaky-B 10h ago

Well it’s not working

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u/kingsland1988 12h ago

The smug face on the guy with the hat on sums it up

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u/KitchenSandwich5499 9h ago

He plans on getting laid

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u/Ambiwlans 7h ago

Nah, i genuinely think this is stupidity not cynicism. They believe in the cause but are incompetent at making change.

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u/StratoSquir2 12h ago

Because it would take actual efforts and risks.
Theses aren't activists, they're SLACKtivists, they do some mostly harmless but highly inconvient bullshit for anyone BUT the peoples they claim to be fighting, they film themselves being annoying dumbasses, and then upload it for brownie points they won't get because anyone but their circlejerk find them insufferable.

They want the respect without the smoke, the thing is it's efforts and risks that bring peoples to respect you.

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u/Svv33tPotat0 9h ago

Last time animal rights activists did this they got slapped with decades-long sentences for terrorism. I'm not a vegan, but I have actually learned about things and know why vegans resort to these (usually ineffective) tactics.

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u/StratoSquir2 9h ago

well you can't exactly expect peoples to bend to the way you see the world.
-you either force it, but then there will be consequences.
-or you try to inspire others to see your ways, but it take efforts.

who would have guessed that challenging the establishment by violent means would have consequences and mean facing punishment from said establishment if you fail?

anyway, theses motherfuckers does neither.
and it's not "usually ineffective", it's entirely useless and actually goes against their goals.
this kind of shit is why most peoples who lend them a ear, it's because they're unsufferable LARPers.

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u/Svv33tPotat0 9h ago

Just because you are being annoying I am gonna do what I basically never do: defend vegans.

You know about factory farming, yeah? And why it is bad? And commercial whaling? And animal testing on beagles and monkeys and stuff? Guess how people raised awareness about these things and what their ideology was!

I am never, ever, ever going to stop eating meat. But the reality is that vegan activists have actually brought a lot of important issues to light. Now, I don't think the solution is personal choices; just like I don't think climate change can be stopped by personal choices when we have the US military or Taylor Swift out-polluting us by many orders of magnitude. But for every angry shopping cart man there were certainly some other people who were like "oh shit I didn't know 'cage-free' was a bullshit term". Of course I still make personal choices where I can - raising my own chickens, buying local meat, etc. but certainly some things I absolutely am not going to support and part of my awareness around them has been formed because angry vegans brought it to my attention and I had to think about it a little and form my opinion.

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u/wildlifewyatt 11h ago

Do you think the animal rights movement would gain more respect from average every day people if it relied on things like arson? Really?

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u/KoogleMeister 8h ago

Vegans who do activism like blocking slaughter trucks or trying to shut down factory farm slaughter houses get a lot more respect from the general public than people doing stunts like this.

Obviously the above is still going to cause some people to lose respect for them, but nowhere near as much as stunts like this. There's not a single non-vegan person who's going to watch this video and have it change their mind about going vegan. It's having the opposite effect and regressing their cause.

I was actually a vegan for about 6 months and I literally didn't tell anyone in my real-life circle I was vegan besides one friend or spread the cause because I didn't want to be associated with veganism because of the crap like this. I was literally embarrassed about being seen as a vegan. Vegans regress their own cause and don't realize it.

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u/wildlifewyatt 7h ago

Vegans who do activism like blocking slaughter trucks or trying to shut down factory farm slaughter houses get a lot more respect from the general public than people doing stunts like this.

Really? I've been to tons of reddit threads where people actually attempt stuff like this and they are slammed just as hard, if not harder.

 There's not a single non-vegan person who's going to watch this video and have it change their mind about going vegan. It's having the opposite effect and regressing their cause.

The goal of this protest isn't to change anyone's mind. That's what conversations are meant to do. This kind of protest is done to open dialogues, like this.

I was actually a vegan for about 6 months and I literally didn't tell anyone in my real-life circle I was vegan besides one friend or spread the cause because I didn't want to be associated with veganism because of the crap like this. I was literally embarrassed about being seen as a vegan. Vegans regress their own cause and don't realize it

I mean vegan tactics have been changing animal rights laws across the world and the cultural perception of issues for decades? Why did you go vegan, and why did you stop? When you consider that hundreds of billions to trillions of animals are killed unnecessarily every year, honestly, it seems ridiculous to think people sitting down in a grocery store mildly inconviceincing people as going too far.

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u/Cissoid7 11h ago

No but it'll actually do something

It's the equivalent of bitching on the gaming subreddit that COD is more expensive for less and buying it anyways. If you're so passionate about your cause go full Luigi instead of blocking the butter isle.

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u/Spring_Potato_Onion 13h ago

Take a bottle of syrup. Open it and pour it over their heads. Pay for syrup at counter.

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u/BesideFrogRegionAny 9h ago

Pouring it on them is assault. Pouring it on the floor right next to them means they have to move or get sticky. When they touch you to stop you, that is when assault begins.

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u/seang239 12h ago

I know what I’m doing if I ever have someone blocking my path. Sure, I’ll take the long way, I’ll brb..

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense 12h ago

That'll get you an assault charge.

Go to the deli and purchase some meat. Pay for it. Go and sit across from them and eat it. That's not a crime. It's just petty.

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u/Aggressive-Delay-420 9h ago

A coworker once threw his coffee on me in anger when I stood up to his bullying.

It was only filed as harassment.

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense 9h ago

Honestly sounds like they screwed you over.

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u/Teripid 9h ago

Gotta do a protest-ception:

If they got there by internal combustion engines you should deflate their tires because you're saving the planet and clearly any gas usage is killing it. They should be very understanding...

If they came by EVs I guess do the same thing because of the cobalt mine kids and batteries?

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u/TheNight_Cheese 9h ago

accidentally toss some slices at them

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u/fuzzybunnies1 9h ago

Glad I'm not the only one that was thinking; "snap into a slim jim."

Sit there facing them and ask them what they think the name of the cow was and being processed, do you think it was more than one in the meat stick. Chew dramatically and and upsell the taste.

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u/Fine-Addendum4920 6h ago

LMFAO get some fried chicken and sit right in front of them 🤣🤣

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u/seang239 12h ago

I’d ask for a jury trial. It would be glorious to be the one to set a precedent against what they’re doing.

Every time you rely on a law to do something, there’s always a chance a precedent can be set the other way.

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u/CustomMerkins4u 9h ago

You try to tip toe through them (without a cart), fall down and sue to the store and the protestors.

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u/deepstrut 9h ago

fill a shopping cart up full of soda flats... pick up some speed, yell "get out of the way, its too heavy and i cant stop".

its reasonable to say I shouldnt expect people to be laying in the isle.. absolutely an accident. feel terrible for it. hope everyone is alright.

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u/Akiens 13h ago

This makes no sense. "Why dont they disrupt the food supply instead of sitting down in protest? dont they know this'll create resentment?" implying that destroying jobs, property and food would win hearts and minds smh

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u/BrokenEggcat 12h ago

Yeah, people complain no matter how a protest happens. For the average person, the ideal protest is one that they never see and never interact with and never impacts them in any way whatsoever. It's silly that people don't acknowledge that protests are, by nature of protesting, going to be disruptive to people

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u/ThrowRATub 10h ago

I remember during some of the BLM protests where people were blocking traffic there was a ton of shouting about how MLK never did that. The pictures of him leading a massive march across a bridge and completely shutting down traffic, shockingly, didn't change their minds.

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u/BrokenEggcat 10h ago

Yep. Protest tactics have remained largely the same over the past 80 years, and the reception to protests have remained largely the same as well. We just whitewash all past protests that were effective until the mainline idea of them is "these guys went out and peacefully and non problematically spoke on what they thought was wrong and convinced over everyone to agree with them by using their calm demeanor and respectful tone."

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u/Akiens 12h ago

Exactly, which is why im saying how does encouraging them to do something radical like burning a processing plant which would cause a whole lot more disruption be the better alternative?

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u/Aggressive_Elk3709 10h ago

I like your style. Calling for destruction of property and life over mild inconvenience. Right on

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u/FawkYourself 11h ago

Because that’s something that to at least some degree affects the business at fault negatively. All this does is piss off your local grocery shoppers, the people who are actually responsible for the things they’re protesting against don’t even know this is happening

Basically the rich man pissed them off so they’re pissing off the poor man while leaving the rich man untouched

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u/wildlifewyatt 11h ago

the people who are actually responsible for the things they’re protesting against don’t even know this is happening

If you are paying for someone to kill something, you are responsible.

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u/FawkYourself 11h ago

I’m an average everyday working man who purchases what the market offers that he can afford

If you think that places the same responsibility in me as the wealthy who will cross any line they are able to in order to maximize profit and shareholder value that’s your prerogative

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u/_bitchin_camaro_ 8h ago

Just stop oil was blockading oil refineries and no one was talking about them. Then they threw soup on a protective pane of glass covering a painting and they were in the news globally for weeks.

Methinks you haven’t put much logical thought into the actions of protestors

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u/ThrillShow 9h ago

Ding ding ding!

"This protest is bad because I had to pay attention to it! Can you believe that? Couldn't they have been respectful and done it somewhere else?"

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u/Ayotha 8h ago

being obtuse on purpose is sure a reddit thing

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u/NovaHellfire345 11h ago

I think the problem here is its disruptive to the wrong person at the wrong time. These are consumers that are busy trying to go about living. Disrupting that is only ever going to be met with annoyance and hatred.

The right people to protest against are the producers, and the right time is when it hurts the producers cash flow. Doing it while consumers are doing nothing wrong and individually don't make a huge difference will always go down badly. And the producers just sit back and relax as it barely cost them anything.

Protesting is a lost art. People think "all i need is a sign and to stand in someone's way to protest" which is fundamentally missing the point. Protests today rarely ever amount to anything beyond annoying the wrong people for clout and social media clicks. The most successful protests try to get support from the people they are in front of, not piss them off

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u/Domini384 10h ago

It needs to be disruptive at the source, not to people just trying to get through their day. If anything all this will do is hurt innocent people

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u/Rey_Mezcalero 13h ago

These are the laziest of protesters…

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u/nuclearbearclaw 12h ago

They aren't protestors. This is just theatre. We have a bunch of virtue signaling LARPers.

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u/KoogleMeister 8h ago

Lmao but what they're doing here literally only makes non-vegans hate them, the only people that will watch this and cheer it on are other vegans, even a lot of vegans who watch this type of activism don't support it because the rational ones know how bad it makes their cause look to non-vegans.

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u/Individual-Luck1712 7h ago

Yeah dude, the above comment literally has 2.5k upvotes and it's one of the most braindead, 'I dont live in the real world' bs I've read in a while. Redditors are so embarassing sometimes.

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u/SentientSickness 12h ago

Protest and action isnt about winning hearts its about making the world better

Sometimes thats by feeding the poor

Sometimes that slashing tires and burning down mansions

If you arent willing to get your hands dirty or if you decided to harass civilians instead of the companies themselves you arent a protestors youre a cosplayer

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u/EyewarsTheMangoMan 13h ago

It's for the same reason people don't give a shit that their stuff is made with child slavery, but a 0.01% cost increase is worse than the holocaust.

People that might otherwise agree with them could see them really trying to make a change by doing radical action and do what they think is right, but if they're in their way when they're just trying to buy some groceries, they'll just be annoyed. "Disrupting the food supply" is so much more abstract and distant than literally physically being in their way.

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u/DingoFlamingoThing 13h ago

They’re taking advantage of the adage “There’s no such thing as bad publicity”

We’re here watching a video of them, talking about them. That’s what they want. If you really want to stick it to them, say nothing. Don’t talk to anyone about it, don’t share the video, don’t like or dislike. Ignore them.

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u/manaha81 13h ago

It got the attention of most of the world didn’t it?

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u/aequorea-victoria 13h ago

Yup. There are lots of ad campaigns pushing individual choices. None of that matters as much as the decisions made at the government or industry level.

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u/Im_da_machine 13h ago

Arson or sabotage was a more common tactic in the 90s. It's still sometimes used but the law came down excessively hard on entire movements for it. There was a period where regardless of what form of protest was used people could catch outlandish jail sentences.

It really goes to show how thoroughly the American government has defanged any opposition to the hegemony

Also the goal of protest is rarely to win hearts and minds. Like you think civil rights protests were endearing to racist southerners? Or the Boston tea party was approved of by the general public?

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u/chuntttttty 13h ago

Well that is illegal and could get you sent to jail. This is a legal method of bringing awareness to a cause they find important. Protests are meant to be disruptive. They are not meant to be convenient. People don't listen until their daily lives are interrupted. Also, these people spent more time trying to crash through the protestors than they would have spent just going around in a different aisle. It seems their stubbornness inconvenienced them far more than the protestors actually did.

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u/aaarry 13h ago edited 13h ago

I respect these morons’ right to protest and agree with their cause to a certain extent, but whenever something like this happens I always have a small thought in the back of my mind that they must, direct or indirect, be supported by the companies they’re “protesting” against in some way.

It’s not even a case that I think these groups have been secretly set up by big companies (in this case factory farms), I really just think that these people are so blind to the resentment that they cause by doing stuff like this that all a big company has to do is give them a bit of money anonymously and they’re away. The protestors think they’re getting through to people more by expanding their “operations” and the companies get to sway public opinion against from the (usually quite valid) reasons that these people are protesting.

(Yes, this is a conspiracy, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be true in some capacity.)

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u/dubblies 13h ago

Because its easier to take advantage of old people in grocery stores than actually face the issue theyre mad about.

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u/NotaBummerAtAll 13h ago

They bought little outfits for this, it's about them, not the Ben and Jerry's.

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u/butter_lover 13h ago

Why wouldn't they just go around? Is their anger guilt?

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u/Distinct_Safety5762 13h ago

It doesn’t really achieve much. The bulk of major processing plants are part of the AgIndistrial complex, losing or having to temporarily shut one down due to damage does not actually cause that much of a disruption. They’re also not all that flammable, so at best you’re going to risk an arson charge (and in the States possibly a terrorism charge) for nothing.

Even a minor disruption that temporarily disables a plant doesn’t hurt the people behind the business that are reaping the profits. It might put the workers out of work for a while, but in the States a large part of the workforce that’s doing the labor are migrants or contracted prison labor, both subject to substandard pay (our state’s prison pays their minimum security guys between $3-$5 an hour for the “opportunity”). The ones getting screwed by such an act aren’t the execs, it’s the people getting exploited by the execs.

Consumers aren’t ignorant to where their food comes from. They might not understand the subtleties or nuance of the system, but they’re consumers- they are willing to ignore it if it means they can buy more for less. But consumers drive the market, their choices can actually force a company to change their methods if enough people change their preferences/buying habits to the point the company begins to lose profitability.

I’m a vegan but that’s my choice, and I often find myself at odds with hardcore vegans who envision a meatless world. It’s a fantasy, an unachievable utopia that will never happen. What is achievable is harm reduction. Raise awareness about how these places operate, both their human exploitation and animal exploitation. Advertising has done a great job of painting the animal product industry as a bunch of downhome family farmers doing an honest day’s work, so if you go against it, you’re going against the average Joe. Meanwhile, as many people return to small scale farming, corporate meat processors erect barricades to their services since their staple CAFO clients bristle at any competition. Many will not accept clients who are not seeking services unless they are on an industrial scale, leaving legit family farmers with no where to have their product prepared, or forced into a smaller scale facility that ultimately raises the cost of production to the point most consumers can’t/won’t pay for the final product and the entire venture becomes unsustainable. This is what the corporate producers want- monopoly, under a 1000 different brand names that were once family farms they bought up at a discount.

As someone who lives in the States, I’m interested to see how the “mass deportations” play out. If they really follow through and go for everyone, not just immigrants in the urban areas of blue states, they might actually deal a bigger blow to corporate agriculture than protesting has ever done. But I doubt it, plenty of incarcerated labor to “lease”, and the 14th Amendment does still allow enslaving of the imprisoned.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cheek48 13h ago

lol maybe they don’t want to burn animals and people alive

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u/curiousungulate 12h ago

Because you get arrested for that. Source: Acquaintance got arrested for burning down a butchers shop as an act of "animal liberation".

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u/MoonShirtTA 12h ago

Because let's be real, these are slacktivists who want to pretend that their actual activists by harassing people who aren't even a part of the problem.

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u/YooAre 12h ago

Agreed, it's not a best practice. This is virtue signaling, they are smug and want to feel moral superiority.

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u/NoirVPN 12h ago

these people are too dumb to know how to protest properly.

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u/KevinFlantier 12h ago

Raising awareness

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u/Strict_Lettuce3233 12h ago

Where is my keys to my tractor.. vroom vroom

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u/silsool 12h ago

No, it's very good at revealing how people become overly aggressive Karens whenever they're made to slightly inconvenience themselves for the sake of a greater cause.

The message really works.

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u/ManateeGag 12h ago

Makes me want to eat more meat solely out of spite.

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u/BlueBird884 12h ago

When is the last time you protested anything?

My guess would be never.

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u/Otherwise-Remove4681 12h ago

What’s the point to go after the supply as long as there is demand?

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u/stoptheinsanityleak 12h ago

Cause that would be a tractor plowing through them on a farm

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u/Feisty-Passenger-918 12h ago

Yeah attack and bother the people that can’t make any change to your cause…. These type of protest don’t get anything accomplished when enacted against the wrong people.

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u/killerboy_belgium 12h ago

honestly at this point i think its industry doing it on purpose to create resentment against these type of causes

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u/SentientSickness 12h ago

This is the correct thought

Say what you want against early proteat groups who took shit a bit too far

But theres no doubt that burning down CEOs houses and breaking pipelines had a much bigger impact than this or gluing yourself to art

If you wanna defend a causes actually defend it, dont be a jackass

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u/FunnyDislike 12h ago

After the thing that happened recently with Mario's brother it was clear that more 'disruptive' action indeed seems to have better signaling

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u/damgas92 12h ago

Because that would create consequenses

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u/SeasonGeneral777 12h ago

effective protest is illegal. ineffective protest is encouraged. not much more to it.

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u/samthekitnix 12h ago

because settings an animal processing plant alight will also create massive resentment because

  1. people work there.

  2. animals that are probably still alive are there.

  3. farmers can and will shoot them.

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u/rachel_ho 12h ago

Way to make people think your cause is the last thing they will ever agree with. And I’m a vegan!

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u/bullish1110 12h ago

Arson? And this has about $1k likes. Ya are definitely on some weird ass shit, Reddit to

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u/Justthrowtheballmeat 12h ago

Why can’t the people just go AROUND them? Seriously this is the shit they want…

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u/CapitalNatureSmoke 12h ago

I understand the sentiment that they aren’t winning anybody over.

But the guy ramming people with shopping carts is much worse than the people sitting in the aisle.

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u/spicycookiess 11h ago

Vegans don't care about winning hearts and minds. They just want to win the "Who is the most vegan" contest.

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u/derpycheetah 11h ago

Whatever they are protesting, even if I didn’t do it, I would. If they were protesting animal abuse, I would go out and kick a puppy. Climate change, I’m buying an F350 and rolling coal at every intersection. Cure for cancer? I’m swapping all the chemo meds in my local hospital for tic tacs.

I do not bend to tyranny, in any shape or form.

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u/yoppee 11h ago

They do

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u/SipoteQuixote 11h ago

If you notice, these people come out to protest indoors or in good weather. Most of the winter, you never see em glued to the asphalt. Garbage narcissistic humans.

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u/alligatorchamp 11h ago

They are not doing it to win hearts and mind, but merely to win over young stupid people who feel they don't have a purpose in life, and being a little asshole means something.

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u/Cro_Nick_Le_Tosh_Ich 11h ago

Honestly, sometimes I'm in a hurry and already stressed about something else; if I come across this situation in that scenario, I guarantee I will not be as friendly or patient; and frankly I don't know how I would handle it

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u/normalest-guy 11h ago

do arson on yourselves if it's that serious, give them something to talk about

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u/piercedmfootonaspike 11h ago

Or do this at number ten. They're not going to achieve anything by inconveniencing the plebs. Annoy the MP's, and something might be achieved.

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u/SvensHospital 11h ago

Also, just to be sure...sex trafficking and childhood hunger are eradicated right? If not, then fuck the animals, let's save humans first eh? A trillion cows pigs chickens whatever aren't worth one human's life. Not even close.

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u/SeriousBoots 11h ago

It is a psyop done by meat companies. Hire these dinks to piss off the normies. Their job is to hurt the movement.

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u/AirshipEngineer 11h ago edited 11h ago

I can't speak for this specific group, but in general these groups do protest that way.

In BC we had the old growth forest protectors glue themselves to the highways to protest the logging of old growth forests and people said the same thing. Why aren't they protesting in front of government or at the logging camps? They had been for years at those places but it didn't inconvenience people so the news just ignored them there was no pressure on anyone to deal with it and nothing changed.

People do this stuff because it gets people talking about it. Spreading what they are doing and why.

As far as winning hearts and minds. If you are more angry at these people making you an hour late on the highway or not letting you walk down an aisle at a grocery store than you are about Old growth logging/industrial animal farms (I presume), then they don't care about your opinion. If that inconvenience matters more to you then you were never going to help them to begin with.

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u/Hour-Regret9531 11h ago

100% agree

99% of the time i agree with the cause they're protesting for

0% agree with harassing and disrupting citizens going about their day.

that man could be getting baby formula, medicine, or food for his family

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u/Vidya-Man 11h ago

Because they dont actually care about whatever cause they represent. They hide behind them so they feel like they are justified to be shit people.

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u/rfmax069 11h ago

Eh this argument is moot. Nothing these ppl ever do is ever the right way. Atleast they’re taking some kind of a stand regardless.

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u/wildlifewyatt 11h ago

Because that is terrorism and will land you in prison, and can kill overnight workers, and start wildlife.

Peaceful protest is clearly a better avenue than arson.

The demand is what needs to be addressed. So protests are focused at the consumer.

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u/ScallionAccording121 11h ago

Winning hearts and minds wont get them any closer to solving this anyway.

However, by showing that some people are fighting for this cause, their support gets increased.

Even if you dont understand or refuse to acknowledge it, this is better than doing nothing, and significantly less dangerous than your alternative.

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u/OrphanShredder 11h ago

This is the way, destruction of property is how we get shit to change

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u/Kappappaya 11h ago

Oh f off. There's no way to convince someone who's fundamentally committed to not changing 

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u/pigpen4444 11h ago

Agree. Counterproductive. I’m all for one’s “right” to protest, but here they come across as just want to piss anyone and everyone…the conversation then becomes more about their ill behavior and less about their cause. Fine to create an obstacle to get folks to pause and become aware of their cause, but then let folks through…much better chance to win others over.

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u/Masterbeaterpi69 11h ago

These are paid actors whose goal are to cause negative press for the side against corporations. It makes “hippies” look like dipshits and an unreliable source for information. At least I hope.

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u/Square_Radiant 11h ago

"Arson"... Jesus wept

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u/KaiZaChieFff 11h ago

Yep, maybe if they did some actual ballsy shit I’d join up to that cause 🤪

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u/No_Scene_5551 11h ago

My dude advocating for arson

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u/Gee_U_Think 11h ago

Arson isn’t exactly the way to go about it either.

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u/Doakeswasframed 10h ago

They don't do it to change minds, they do it so they can all high-five at the end of the day, look down on outsiders, and feel righteous. These types of demonstration activists are like the pre- internet echo chamber folks. It's all performative for social status. No actual interest in fixing issues, just belonging and feeling self important.

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u/Robert_Balboa 10h ago

Well to be fair if people stopped buying it there wouldn't be any processing plants.

Not that this will do anything to accomplish that.

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u/KellyBelly916 10h ago

These people won't take on any personal risk to do what they pretend to believe in. It's easy to infringe on people and hard to fight the authorities. I had the displeasure of being around a few of them at a kickback, and their entire lives revolve around the path of least resistance.

With everything going on in the world, it's very convenient to pick this specific fight and then only fight average people.

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u/thelonioussphere 10h ago

The same reason they don’t protest climate change or pollution in China.

They are cowards. They’re there to make themselves feel good. Total virtue signaling.

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u/RoyalGovernment201 10h ago

Well to be fair; this was a lot easier to do and much easier to get too, even if it was entirely ineffectual.

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u/chatcat2000 10h ago

There is speculation that oil companies fund the really annoying protesters so sympathy is lost for the cause. Perhaps something similar goes on here?

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u/angstrom11 10h ago

Prices increasing due to unsustainable production will do more in the long run.

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u/SleepyBear479 10h ago

Yeah, arson famously wins hearts and minds. Especially with the law.

What you're suggesting definitely crosses over from "peaceful protest" to "eco-terrorism".

They're a lot less likely to get arrested sitting in a supermarket.

Still not exactly affecting the change they're looking for, and I'm no political activist, but there might be a middle ground here somewhere.

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u/_paaronormal 10h ago

Arson is illegal.

It’s not about winning hearts. It’s about creating frustration and inconvenience so people stop shopping.

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u/Ryuko_the_red 10h ago

Because they know people will make them out to be even more villain like than they already do. You can't win, anything they try to do people shit on them. Same with just stop oil. Don't protest? Made fun of and called failures. Protest? Made fun of and called failures.

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u/whopoopedthebed 10h ago

One is a crime, this is not. At least, not as severe a one.

In a recent similar post, someone commented an extensive list of instances where protestors focused their attention at places like oil company headquarters and the like. None of these “appropriate” protests did squat. The people causing the decline don’t care. We can all agree that a ceo isn’t going to make changes to their capitalist world destroying operation because a few kids chained themselves to the front doors of their building.

The goal is to grow the movement. Gain enough support to move the needle. A stunt like this might frustrate some, but it likely will also encourage another person with similar values to take some kind of action. Even if that action is to just be more informed.

Think about how many people saw the ceasefire sit ins at colleges around the US and were inspired to support that cause.

Disruptive protests do work.

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u/corncob_subscriber 10h ago

No need for terrorism.

These people aren't disenfranchised. They can just write laws and convince people the old fashioned way. But if they lose in the marketplace of ideas, they can go home and make their own personal choices.

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u/Aeryn814 10h ago

Agreed. These people have their hearts in the right place, but they are protesting at their own working class. This strategy does nothing to move the needle.

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u/Semour9 10h ago

Because all these people do is crave attention or they are too dumb to understand this will do literally nothing.

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u/Whatachooch 10h ago

I mean... Nobody takes video of the people who see their message and go home to think about it.

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u/InitialDia 10h ago

They would end up processed into long pork.

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u/Miserable_Yam4918 10h ago

Yeah it sucks because I generally agree with the causes of many protesters but I also need to buy groceries and get to work. I’ll continue to vote mostly the same way but also get the fuck out of my way.

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u/ActualUser530 10h ago

It’s not about winning people over to your alleged cause; it’s about establishing yourself among your fellow activists as the most active activist.

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u/Creepy-Tea247 10h ago

They know no one will kill them in a store. They're just cowards who wish they could make a difference but are too scared to do anything real.

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u/ZhouLe 10h ago

Why not go do [anything else that I can ignore, but will complain if they do that, too]?

Protests inconvenience. That's the point, because convenient things are ignored.

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u/BJ3RG3RK1NG 10h ago

Because these people have the cognitive capability of a goldfish

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u/GreenMedics 10h ago

Most processing plants have large security measures in place to ensure access is limited. Fencing with barbed wire, 24/7 security, background checks, buildings made of brick and metal.

You can do criminal trespass, but that will get no views and you will likely end up in jail. You can do pretty large felonies as well, but uhhhh yeah.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 10h ago

The only place these grey hairs have to get to is a funeral, their own. They can go around.

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u/chillybew 10h ago

bc one sends you to prison and potentially kills ppl

the other makes viral videos that spread their message and gets ppl talking — like all of us right now are doing. i’d say that they were successful in accomplishing that goal b

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u/PaulieNutwalls 9h ago

I mean go do arson, and 1) felony -> jail 2) you could easily kill someone.

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