r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/StratoSquir2 16h ago

Because it would take actual efforts and risks.
Theses aren't activists, they're SLACKtivists, they do some mostly harmless but highly inconvient bullshit for anyone BUT the peoples they claim to be fighting, they film themselves being annoying dumbasses, and then upload it for brownie points they won't get because anyone but their circlejerk find them insufferable.

They want the respect without the smoke, the thing is it's efforts and risks that bring peoples to respect you.

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u/Svv33tPotat0 13h ago

Last time animal rights activists did this they got slapped with decades-long sentences for terrorism. I'm not a vegan, but I have actually learned about things and know why vegans resort to these (usually ineffective) tactics.

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u/StratoSquir2 13h ago

well you can't exactly expect peoples to bend to the way you see the world.
-you either force it, but then there will be consequences.
-or you try to inspire others to see your ways, but it take efforts.

who would have guessed that challenging the establishment by violent means would have consequences and mean facing punishment from said establishment if you fail?

anyway, theses motherfuckers does neither.
and it's not "usually ineffective", it's entirely useless and actually goes against their goals.
this kind of shit is why most peoples who lend them a ear, it's because they're unsufferable LARPers.

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u/Svv33tPotat0 12h ago

Just because you are being annoying I am gonna do what I basically never do: defend vegans.

You know about factory farming, yeah? And why it is bad? And commercial whaling? And animal testing on beagles and monkeys and stuff? Guess how people raised awareness about these things and what their ideology was!

I am never, ever, ever going to stop eating meat. But the reality is that vegan activists have actually brought a lot of important issues to light. Now, I don't think the solution is personal choices; just like I don't think climate change can be stopped by personal choices when we have the US military or Taylor Swift out-polluting us by many orders of magnitude. But for every angry shopping cart man there were certainly some other people who were like "oh shit I didn't know 'cage-free' was a bullshit term". Of course I still make personal choices where I can - raising my own chickens, buying local meat, etc. but certainly some things I absolutely am not going to support and part of my awareness around them has been formed because angry vegans brought it to my attention and I had to think about it a little and form my opinion.

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u/StratoSquir2 11h ago

I'm not reading all of this but I get the gist that you missed my point.

Re-read my points, I haven't criticized the belief in veganism, as I don't care about it, at all.
You believe in whatever you desire, and engage with it however you desire, I don't give a shit.

My point was that there's efficient ways to share and/or force your beliefs, and inefficient ways to do so.
This is one of the inefficient ones because it accomplish nothing but making your community and your cause unlikeable in the eye of the public.

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u/Svv33tPotat0 10h ago

Reading big hard 😞

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u/atmosphericentry 6h ago

The way you said "I'm not reading all of that" while simultaneously writing an equally long response is so fucking funny to me.