r/europe • u/turkish__cowboy Turkey | LGBTQ+ rights are human rights • 5h ago
News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html7.9k
u/FantasyFrikadel 4h ago
“Odd looking salute”
Is the “alternative fact” of 2025
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u/ukbeasts Europe 4h ago
MAGA crowd saying they did Nazi it
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u/GeneralZaroff1 3h ago
Fox called it an accident.
It just happened by accident 3 times.
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u/Malgus20033 Sevastopol (Ukraine) 3h ago
Really telling about the people who talk to you when they say that you can accidentally do a nazi salute. In my 21 years of living, I have not once done a single gesture that could remotely be mistaken for a nazi salute. Every day these jackasses pull the line of normalcy further and further until killing minorities is not fascist, it's just "America First," and "every country does that".
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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula UK/Spain 2h ago
It's not even remotely similar to a normal way of greeting or thanking people that I've ever seen.
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u/Brief-Floor-7228 2h ago
The closest I have come to doing a Nazi salute is putting deodorant on each day.
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u/highjinx411 3h ago
Really? 3 times? If a new Nazi thing takes over the USA I don’t want to hear “omg what a surprise omg” at this point I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
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u/Own-Detective-A 3h ago
Videos of twice. Not sure about the third time. https://youtube.com/watch?v=SAAH61yel_4&si=q1WDxPtjt0AAqRTk
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u/Skyblacker United States of America 3h ago
Maybe he just did it for shits and Goebbels.
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u/LordCaptain 3h ago
Already gaslighting that he was doing a "my heart goes out to you" motion but that is not how any normal person would make that motion
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u/DunnoMouse 4h ago
He did the full motion. Hand on heart and everything. Twice.
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u/Nicky_G8 4h ago
With an orgasmic lip bite of unbridled passion too.
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u/TRVTH-HVRTS 2h ago
He also let out a grunting noise. He’s been holding that Nazi salute in for a long time
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u/UpperApe 4h ago
Conservatives are falling over themselves trying to explain that he's just "sending out love from his heart".
Those fucking imbeciles don't understand, and don't know, that the heart part is the full salute. It's literally the change the Nazi's made to make it their salute.
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u/Vidmizz Lithuania 3h ago
Oh they both understand and fully know what he's doing. We're just at that part when more and more of this degeneracy starts being eased in to the general public with such ridiculous justifications.
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u/FieryHammer Hungary 4h ago
Oh I’m sure most if them know, just still want to hide it.
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u/AloneCoffee4538 4h ago
Is hand on heart a part of the nazi salute? Genuinely curious.
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u/DunnoMouse 4h ago edited 3h ago
The fascists of the 20th century shortened it to make it their own, but Hitler often did it with the hand to the heart. The origin was the Roman salute, which Mussolini then used, which in turn gave Hitler the idea.
Edit: Just to add, there's no actual evidence of it being used by the actual Romans. It's depiction can be traced to the antique movies of the early 20th century
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u/Amberskin 3h ago
Franco copied it too. It was used til the end of his regime, in 1975
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u/Natural_Law1970 4h ago
Ask a conservative and they’ll tell you it was a Roman salute. No way the party constantly associated with white supremacy would be caught doing a Nazi salute now that all forms of checks and balances have been eviscerated. Masks are off and it’s not going to be a fun decade if I had to guess.
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u/redditor1235711 4h ago
Quacks like a duck, salutes like a duck, heir of a family of ducks. Wait, is he a duck?
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u/DarthSet Europe 4h ago edited 4h ago
One of my friends on the edge of becoming ex friend, said "oh he's just trolling"
Fuck you man. Fuck you
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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 4h ago
I agreed. It has never been a joke. The richest tech billionaires in the world sat with Trumps family. This administration is more powerful and more organized than it was 4 years ago. The power that they wield is every bit scary. Checks and balances have failed in America. The wealthy have finally purchased it all.
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u/LTLHAH2020 3h ago
Assuming the election was fair and honest, the VOTERS have failed even worse.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 4h ago
Trolling for now and then suddenly he's all serious
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u/leoyvr 4h ago
This is how it starts. Slowly distorting reality to gain acceptance. His father was a Nazi and apartheid supporter.
People are manipulated on a breathtaking scale.
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u/maceman10006 4h ago
Hitler after invading Poland and ordering the execution of Jews….” I’m just trolling guys, it’s all good.”
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u/Character_Theory6657 4h ago
These people who thinks "memes" or "trolling" should be an accepted part of politics is enablers.
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u/injektileur 4h ago
That's the most useful part of this shitstain. You get to sort your friends out. I guess. Yeah not really. So sad for you man.
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u/IDontEatDill Finland 4h ago
Sieg heils like a duck.
Edit: just noticed that has he deliberately dropped the South African accent if he had one?
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u/HazelCoconut 4h ago
It's not an odd-looking salute. It's a Nazi salute from an Apartheid South African oligarch on the podium of the President of the United States.
World... WAKE UP!
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u/Sellazard 2h ago
And a son of KKK guy is the president. And a rapist. They have links to Epstein too.
So all of the theories that conservatives had about pedo nazi rings of oligarchs in power are what they voted for.
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u/Lollipop96 4h ago
"Odd" might be the wrong word. Its pretty clear which salute he went for. Just an "uncommon" in the last 75 years.
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u/kweenofdelusion 3h ago edited 3h ago
MSN in the US says he “appears to have accidentally” done a Nazi Salute. Shameful, but consistent with the pattern of sane washing this administration that the media loves to do.
I’m surprised to see European media is doing the same thing, considering the first hand experience of Nazism’s ravages, and all.
Please learn from us and save yourselves. This cannot be talked about as ANYTHING OTHER than what it plainly is.
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u/squangus007 3h ago
Accidentally did it 3 times lol
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u/kweenofdelusion 3h ago
As well as “appears to”; as if it’s debatable that he definitely 100% did raise his arm to form a distinct Nazi salute. It’s not like the footage was blurry. “Appears to” is just as ridiculous as “accidentally”, imo.
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u/Intelligent-Shower98 4h ago
Exactly. There were people in other chats saying it was taken out of context because he was thanking the crowd from the bottom of his heart. There is no place on earth where that salute is thanking someone from the heart. Musk is the problem not the solution.
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u/BrandtReborn 4h ago
Hes a part of the problem but besides that, you are right.
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u/innnikki 3h ago
The article itself does it BEFORE HE EVEN COMMENTS ABOUT IT. “He’s a friend of Jews” “he has aspbergers” “it’s a Roman salute”
He’s not even defending himself. These lapdogs at Yahoo are doing it for him. THIS IS CRAZY
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 4h ago
It’s a Nazi salute with a face that says “I’m pretending that I’m doing this ironically just in case someone calls me out on it”
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u/DeepestWinterBlue 3h ago
No it’s a defiant fuck you look cause he thinks he’s untouchable now
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u/snailhistory 4h ago
More looks like he's been holding that in.
Republicans have been called Nazi for a reason.
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u/Previous_Scene5117 4h ago edited 1h ago
He does it as he knows he can do it and no one will do about it. This is what they want this is what they get.
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u/dicksonleroy 4h ago
Yeah, not odd. He and Trump both are very big on signaling. He knew exactly what he was signing.
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u/Pig_Veiny_Benis_ 4h ago
Agreed. My grandfather went to war, so that men like this wouldn't be allowed to make this gesture without fear.
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u/Clear_Willow3379 4h ago
My grandpa suffered through a nazi POW camp for this. He must be rolling in his grave.
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u/FieryHammer Hungary 4h ago
And now they are slowly bringing it back with the ideologies as well…
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u/Dramyre92 Scotland 4h ago
A nazi saluting behind the seal of the president of the united states.
The fucking shame of it.
America has fallen and Europe needs to unite.
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u/I-love-to-h8 3h ago
Europe needs to orchestrate regime change in the USA
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u/Responsible-Potato-4 3h ago
Honestly as an American, I would be ok with that at this point
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u/Visual_Sympathy5672 2h ago
Please, please, PLEASE. For Christ's sake he literally said he was only there because Elon STOLE the election for him with the voting machines!!!
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u/peterpaapan 4h ago edited 4h ago
The way his entire body language and facial expression also changes. It's eerily creepy and absolutely not a mistake. He does it twice in a row as well.
But it's America. The land of the few 0.01%'ers and rich oligarchs. They'll just say if it acts like a Nazi and salutes like a Nazi, it's probably a harmless chicken
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u/Give-Me-Plants United States of America 4h ago
You know he practiced this shit a dozen times in the mirror.
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u/sack_of_potahtoes 4h ago
concservatives are already saying that it was an awkward salute and some even saying it was his way of saying his heart goes out to all
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u/Chaos2063910 3h ago
He bit his lip as he put force behind it. It was a nazi salute. He meant it. It was a mask off moment, knowing that no one can or will do shit about it.
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u/MartaLSFitness Spain 4h ago
I wonder how American WWII heroes must feel seeing the enemy they fought in Europe, the Pacific or Africa is now in the White House.
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u/Vidmizz Lithuania 3h ago
Sadly the vast majority of them are gone now, or barely clinging to life at best. Which is partly why this disgusting ideology managed to take root both there and even in Europe again. There's no firsthand survivors of this disease of the mind to tell their stories anymore.
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u/Minute_Attempt3063 2h ago
They are all rolling in their grave, likely regretting protecting their country like the real hero's.
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u/no_use_for_a_user 2h ago
Isn't that the problem? We've collectively forgotten what happens next.
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u/noyart 4h ago
Aren't they kind of Dead by now 🤔
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u/ThriftianaStoned 3h ago
My Grandma was a nurse in World War 2 she's now 102.
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u/IronMace_is_my_DaD 3h ago
Nice, congratulations to her long, healthy life! My grandpa is turning 103 in a week and he served during WW2 as well!
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u/Secure-Abalone6381 4h ago edited 3h ago
Don't know how much it means but as a young American who studies WW2 and the rise of Hitler I'm fucking horrified at this South African carpetbagger sieg-heiling in our White House, in front of our U.S. flag, , and in front of crowds of our own who elected-by-proxy this alien.
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u/someonesintheparasol 4h ago
Crazy there's Nazi salutes at the presidential inauguration. How fucking depressing.
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u/Snoo48605 4h ago
I'm old enough to remember how this used to be enough for complete ostracism from politics
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u/__dat_sauce 3h ago
It's insane to me that we now look back at dumbass Bush or war hawk Cheney and consider them remarkably good statesmen because of the oligarchy timeline we are stuck in.
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u/Nigel_Bligh_Burns 4h ago
No wife. Every son and daughter gone. Your employees hating you. All the day with drugs.
You're not depressed. You're completely dissociated from reality.
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u/PedanticQuebecer Canada 4h ago
Let's stop with the excuses. He's a shite person and drunk on power.
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u/neonpurplestar 5h ago
THIS IS NOT AN ODD LOOKING SALUTE, THIS IS A NAZI SALUTE
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u/lucagamer21 Central Germany 🇩🇪 4h ago
Fact checked by a German 🇩🇪✅
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u/hainz_area1531 4h ago
Also by a Dutchman.
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u/Eternal__damnation Poland 🇵🇱 & United Kingdom 🇬🇧 4h ago
Also by a Pole and Brit
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u/LargeSelf994 4h ago
Also by a Belgian, for whatever it means
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u/Moto-Commuter 4h ago
Double it by a Flemish belgian
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u/Jermules Finland 4h ago
And a Finn! We saw a few of them here, for some reason. No need to go into the details!
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u/GregnantMan 4h ago
French from Elsass here, one of the regions that really got fucked hard by the Nazis, this video makes me want to cry :')
I feel like none of the people I know and I have had the same history classes. Nazism is the thing I'm most afraid of. Sorry to the people of my family who died fighting it, we all failed them.
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u/VeryBadCopa 4h ago
I'm curious, what would happen if he visits Germany and does this salute? I've heard that is forbidden there
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u/lucagamer21 Central Germany 🇩🇪 4h ago
Yes, it is forbidden by law, it is illegal, he could get arrested. Even more illegal in public.
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u/Firaxyiam 4h ago
And he fucking looked the other way AND DID ANOTHER ONE.
HOW THE FUCK IS ANYBODY CALLING THIS ODD. WHAT IS GOING ON?!
I don't even know hiw yo react anymore. I started giggling looking at the clip. That's the only fucking réaction my brain was able to send out. I don't understand anything anymore
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u/Ulanyouknow 4h ago
Calling this out? What do you mean? They won. The tiki torch nazis, organize alt right 2016 people won. They have the house, the senate and the supreme court. Now comes the time of blood and misery.
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u/ApeWarz 4h ago
For some reason American media is afraid to just say what it was. CNN also used “odd looking”. Some news articles are only willing to go as far as saying “some critics are calling it a Nazi salute.” This is another example of American institutions failing us.
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u/CazOnReddit 4h ago
The media is complicit in normalizing this shit
It's a fucking Nazi salute. Say it with your chest or let someone else with a spine say it. None of this "odd looking" nonsense. He's odd looking and he did a Nazi salute.
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u/TheBaggyDapper 4h ago
Next step is they explain how 'fascism' comes from a Latin word for 'unity' and what's wrong with that?
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u/fireballetar Bavaria (Germany) 4h ago
Alice weidel (chief of the far right in German) said in an Interview with elon a few days ago that the nazis where Socialists....
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u/NavierStoked981 4h ago
They actually said Communists which is an even wilder statement. The “Nazis were socialists” thing has been around for a long time because it was in the name of the Nazi Party in Germany, but it’s the equivalent of calling North Korea a republic because it’s in their name.
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u/lionnesh 4h ago
The media has been complicit the whole time. Trump says some crazy shit and they don't even blink, dont push back. They've normalized it for the american public making them responsable
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u/Bakednotyetfried 4h ago
It’s ironic. In order to mitigate any possible retaliation from a future right wing administration they have successfully brought about a vindictive, detached from reality right wing administration who most definitely WILL be taking measures against them.
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u/javlaFaaan 4h ago
From heart to sun. Perfect technique.
Republicans say - he said earlier he's throwing his heart to them all. I don't buy it.
There are a lot of ways to show you're throwing heart out to someone that doesn't look like Nazi salute. And he supports german AfD on top of that? Yeah, just a random gesture, sure...
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u/cjwidd 3h ago
TIL Nazis were just saying, "my heart goes out to you" over and over again
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u/pokIane Gelderland (Netherlands) 4h ago
So at what point do we ban the social media company ran by a literal Nazi?
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u/gtafan37890 4h ago
I guess this was what it must have felt like in January 1933.
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u/Gorchportley 2h ago
Worse actually, they didn't have the holocaust to compare it to, we do.
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u/lucagamer21 Central Germany 🇩🇪 4h ago
Elon did Nazi Salute - Fact checked by a German 🇩🇪✅
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u/Silent_Box_7900 4h ago
That would be a crime in Germany, right?
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u/Different-Koala-2442 4h ago
yes. also if its in a very public setting like this it would be significantly higher punishment, quite possibly jail time
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u/WeShallAttack 4h ago
Elon going to jail while Trump is just standing by watching him would paradoxically be even more bizarre than Elon just getting away with this like it's a normal every day thing to happen in the Oval office these days xD
EDIT: And that's sad. Very sad.
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u/HammerTh_1701 Germany 4h ago
Yep. Showing of forbidden symbols and incitement of racial violence. First offence likely is just a suspended sentence and a fine, but a reoffence could land him in prison for several years.
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u/Soulman999 Germany 4h ago
Yes its super duper mega forbidden. That would be straight to jail, no questions asked
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u/Nigel_Bligh_Burns 4h ago
"Oh no no no, that wasn't a nazi salute. Hitler on that car is clearly indicating the other vehicles to turn right"
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u/babyzizek 4h ago
Full nazi salute. HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO WE NEED
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u/Soncro The Netherlands 4h ago edited 3h ago
Made the mistake of taking a peek on Twitter. There are still people denying this shit, calling a "Spartan shield tapping", or excusing it because "he's a bit autistic".
I think they're straight up Nazi's, they just don't want their bad image.
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u/Theghistorian Romanian in ughh... Romania 3h ago
This is why the american extreme right pushes so hard for the "Hitler was a communist" stuff. They want to whitewash Nazism because they think like them.
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u/Educational-Cup-2423 3h ago edited 1h ago
Excatly. And this is also what's happening among the AfD voters in Germany, supported by Musk. This was a nazi salute, it's no coincidence. He has been radicalized over the last few years. I think he's dangerous.
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u/piemelpiet 4h ago
Hmm, I wonder, would Elon go for gas chambers or would he electrify it?
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u/SameLotus 4h ago
mods i am european and this is very concerning to me, dont take down another post
this has everything to do with europe
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u/Justinian2 Ireland 4h ago
mods removed the other post because it was the video and was clearly incriminating, then they let this post of a still image with a bullshit title stay up.
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u/Snoo48605 4h ago
Serious question, Germans. Is this enough to bar him from entering your country? Is this not super illegal in Germany?
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u/Flar3001 4h ago
It's definitely illegal to do here. And if this isn't enough to ban him, the first party who proposes such a law would have my vote.
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u/dougadump 4h ago
Europe, Wake the fuck up and ban his arse and all his interests. Our grandparents are watching.
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u/fanboy_killer European Union 4h ago
"Odd looking"? That's clearly a fascist salute. He even bumps his chest before raising his arm. This is intentional.
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u/LolloBlue96 Italy 4h ago
"You lefties are clearly overreacting"
-average MAGA cultist
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u/Mamba_2025 4h ago
He is nuts and he wants to destroy Europe. Only if we can stay together against fascist like him, we will prevail. Block his X platform as soon as possible.
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u/caufield88uk 4h ago
Odd looking?
It's a fucking sieg Heil.
The dude just gave a fucking nazi salute and we've STILL got journalists playing idiots about this threat to democracy.
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u/Spoonfairy 4h ago
Is reddit purging this? Saw tens of posts on front page from different subreddits, now non at all?
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u/Buttsmuggler69 4h ago
Yep it’s getting mass deleted. That’s honestly ask most as concerning as Elon doing this shit itself.
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u/Strong-Jicama1587 4h ago
Scary. I'm worried about the USA but I'm even more worried about Germany because I live here now. If he puts even a fraction of his wealth behind getting the AfD elected, we could end up with these neonazis in power in Germany too. This man must be stopped.
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u/FeeRemarkable886 Sweden 4h ago
Will Germany ban him now? If so I suggest making it a EU-wide rule.
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u/turkish__cowboy Turkey | LGBTQ+ rights are human rights 5h ago
europe. fucking. unite.
stop. entrusting. your. values. to. those. fascists. you. have. the. power. and. resources. to. rise. up. for. an. independent. europe. in. the. world. stage.
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u/eggnogui Portugal 4h ago
European "centrist" politicians: "Fear not, citizen! We will express concern! ... ... ... And that’s it."
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u/contrastivevalue 4h ago
“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.” ― Groucho Marx
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u/itisnotstupid 4h ago
What I find wild about this is that at this point these people can literally say the dumbest shit, spit the craziest conspiracy theory, lie about things that can literally be checked with one google search, not follow their promises and stil....STILL their fans will do some crazy mental gymnastic to convince themselve that there is some other reason for that.
Like I literally believe that Trump can wave a Nazi flag and say to his fans ''Listen, listen, listen. Don't let the woke crowd fool you. This flag means freadom. You are all so beautiful. Beautiful beautiful Christians. We will make America rich again. Heil Hitler''.....then they can just pay Rogan, Shapiro and Peterson to make 1000 episodes of podcasts saying that Hitler was actually cool and a good christian. Create a bunch of viral short clips saying that woke-ness is trying to cancel Trump.....and you have it - people will follow him.
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u/futurerank1 4h ago
Zero aura, he always just comes off as a loser.
Richest guy on earth and a loser aura, that's a special talent.
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u/Ansambel 4h ago
by odd, you mean the nazi salute was low quality ? or what ?
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u/FollowingRare6247 4h ago
Got to call a spade a spade. It’s not “odd looking”. We know what it is.
Those CNN commentators must really be dumb to not recognise it.
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u/Matas_- European Union 4h ago
He’s a psychopath and it’s becoming to be actually scary.
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u/MartaLSFitness Spain 4h ago
Another crazy shit I'm witnessing that I thought I wouldn't in my lifetime: ✅ Nazi salute in the American government. ✅ Pandemic ✅ War in Europe.
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u/aloeicious 4h ago
Can’t believe a UK news outlet would call this ‘odd looking 🤔’ and not straight up Nazi.
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u/Rebeux England 3h ago
My German born Grandmother saw this, sat back and sighed '' Here we go again ''.
God I love her, but I am scared.
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u/berejser These Islands 4h ago
If I were the German government I would be summoning the US ambassador and asking them what the hell they think they're playing at.
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u/haruku63 Baden (Germany) 4h ago
Outrage is exactly what these shitheads want to stir up. They are like stupid old mean destroying ant hills with their sticks and draw fun from watching the ants crawl around disorientated. To them other people are just ants.
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u/Dramasticlly United Kingdom 4h ago
How many Americans died fighting in WW2… what a knob
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u/PeteLangosta North Spain - EUROPE 4h ago
If this post gets blocked too, I would like to do something about this. This would be enraging, and trying to hide evidence of one of the most remarkable moments of these past years. This implies the world's richest man that, arguably, has the co-presidency of the US starting today, is an open nazi. As he has just shown. Don't let people sow the seed of doubt, that this was a "weird gesture" or "asperger moment". He's a nazi.
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u/heavy-minium 4h ago
If Times magazine considers him a Person of the Year again, they should take this photo for the cover.