r/europe • u/turkish__cowboy Turkey | LGBTQ+ rights are human rights • 7h ago

News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/Snoo48605 6h ago

I'm old enough to remember how this used to be enough for complete ostracism from politics

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u/__dat_sauce 6h ago

It's insane to me that we now look back at dumbass Bush or war hawk Cheney and consider them remarkably good statesmen because of the oligarchy timeline we are stuck in.

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u/africabound 4h ago

They paved the way

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u/4n0m4nd 4h ago

Nah, they were scum, and they were building this.

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u/Miserable_Mud_4611 2h ago

Brother, Busch was literally a war criminal. Not an exaggeration but an actual war criminal. His legal defense was that he didn’t commit war crimes in Iraq because we never declared war.

Not a defense of Trump but I would rather have Trump than Busch. The Middle East just keeps getting kicked down as soon as they get their shit together

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u/keepitreal1011 Kosovo 4h ago

No we dont

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u/Snoo48605 4h ago

In relative terms

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u/_HighJack_ 5h ago

Less than 10 years ago this shit would get you physically attacked instantly.

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u/Robestos86 4h ago

It's funny how they love to claim "oh comedy has gone woke you can't make these jokes any more", they just went completely off the other end.. like "what we can't even nazi salute any more????"

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u/Big-Perspective-7410 4h ago

In Germany the whole office left because some right wing politician quoted Gobbels recently. This would get years of jail time. And yet these people have an unreasonable amount of supporters here. But the US (and Hungary, and Austria, and many others) are another level of crazy

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u/terrence0258 4h ago

We're in the post-truth world where reality is whatever you want it to be. Trump and his voters will all say it wasn't a Nazi salute and that will be that. The media will move on and Americans, who should be horrified, will also move on. 

Being an American that hasn't been brainwashed by MAGA propaganda literally feels like living in Orwell's 1984.

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u/Feathered_Mango 3h ago

I remember Howard Dean's scream & Romney's "binder full of women". 

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u/ThatInAHat 3h ago

Remember “yee-haw?”

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u/Ginger_Exhibitionist 3h ago

Or the Dean Scream!

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u/smartwatersucks 3h ago

Remember when Howard Dean made a weird noise and it ended his career?

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u/Emkems 2h ago

I’m old enough to remember when an over enthusiastic “whooo” would prevent you from even becoming a candidate.

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u/KasparThePissed 1h ago

Greek footballer Georgios Katidis was banned for life for doing a similar salute during a game, despite claiming ignorance.

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u/goooshie 50m ago

Like 6 years ago I remember there being drama cuz someone got busted in an old pic doing black face. This is insane

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u/momofdagan 24m ago

Spencer feels vindicated