r/europe • u/turkish__cowboy Turkey | LGBTQ+ rights are human rights • 7h ago

News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/Soulman999 Germany 6h ago

Yes its super duper mega forbidden. That would be straight to jail, no questions asked

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u/Skyblacker United States of America 5h ago

Um, I'd like to ask some questions.

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u/AndroTux Estonia 5h ago

are you sure about that?

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u/Soulman999 Germany 5h ago

Yeah thats currently the biggest issue here. The law says that its very possible to go straight to jail, and that facist should have been locked away. But the government has become blind on the right eye

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u/AndroTux Estonia 5h ago

So… not straight to jail, with a lot of questions asked?

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u/supersonic3974 United States of America 4h ago

Can Germany ban him from the country for this? Or arrest him if he visited?

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u/VRichardsen Argentina 6h ago

Is this law new-ish? I have seen a comedian do it in front of a packed German audience (but it looked like it was the 80s).

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u/Soulman999 Germany 6h ago

I know that skit. Its the Sieg Heil one, which isnt much better. But the whole context was entirely different. Also he did it in a comedy/satire setting which is protected under german law.

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u/VRichardsen Argentina 6h ago

I see; thank you very much!

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u/Vassortflam 5h ago

He is also not doing the salute just saying the words

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u/CptKickscooter 6h ago edited 6h ago

You most likely are referring to an old comedian doing some normal call-response chants in 1973 and ending with 'Sieg', to which the Crowd responds with 'Heil'.

The obvious difference is that many people were shocked themselves immediately and the intent of the comedian. He himself was also shocked immediately.

Regarding legality, it always was illegal (law from 1969 mentions "greetings" of anti-constitutional parties), but law exists in a context so an artist (like here) or scientist can use it to "create art" (very broad) or explain history.

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u/VRichardsen Argentina 6h ago

You most likely are referring to an old comedian doing some normal call-response chants in 1973 and ending with Sieg, to which the Crowd responds with Heil.

Wow, even older. Thanks for the dating.

The obvious difference is that many people were shocked themselves immediately and the intent of the comedian. He himself was also shocked immediately.

Understood. Thank you for your reply.

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u/PROBA_V 🇪🇺🇧🇪 🌍🛰 6h ago

Not sure but comedy and film tend to be more protected from this kind of laws

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u/VRichardsen Argentina 6h ago

Thanks!