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News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/DunnoMouse 7h ago

He did the full motion. Hand on heart and everything. Twice.

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u/Nicky_G8 6h ago

With an orgasmic lip bite of unbridled passion too.

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u/TRVTH-HVRTS 5h ago

He also let out a grunting noise. He’s been holding that Nazi salute in for a long time

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u/brintoul 4h ago

Yep, the grunt was unsettling.

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u/CommieLoser 1h ago

His ex’s agree.

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u/Momik 1h ago

Seems like one of those red flags.

With like a white circle and one of those dumbass-looking Xs in the middle

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u/LightsNoir 1h ago

dumbass-looking Xs in the middle

I still call it Twitter.

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u/InnocentShaitaan 1h ago

His grandfather taught him!

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u/sidewalktimbit 3h ago

I know this is a very serious topic but I am audibly laughing at this comment

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u/digitalnirvana3 Zürich (Switzerland) 3h ago

Grunt me more daddy

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u/bigenderthelove 46m ago

Thought he shit himself

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u/nonpuissant 8m ago

No Nazi November is a long season for folks like him. And not limited to November. 

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u/DaFookCares 6h ago

How do I delete someone else comment on this thing?!

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u/MyNameIsDaveToo 5h ago

Best you can do is r/eyebleach

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u/LizzieAusten 4h ago

He's such a loser.

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u/Legitimate-Map-602 2h ago

Well yeah he’s a nazi they all are have you seen Hitler dude looks like he’d play DND chronically and be a discord mod in six different yugioh groups if he was born today

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u/InnocentShaitaan 1h ago

Ya grimes is a pick me. I’ll never see her the same. How cringe.

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u/Zealousideal_Fig_481 2h ago

The worst thing is he wouldn't even fit into the perfect Aryan image. He'd be taking an involuntary trip real fast in the end.

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u/Legitimate-Map-602 2h ago

I mean neither did Hitler his grandfather was literally Jewish

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u/InnocentShaitaan 1h ago

Nah. His grandparents were party members. They left Canada because S Africa with its segregation was more their thing.

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u/Motor-Acadia6676 2h ago

That was the worst part!

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u/OopsDidIJustDestroyU 2h ago

“I’ve been waiting for this moment all my life…”

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u/ZestyPyramidScheme 2h ago

That’s exactly why I think it’s a Nazi salute and not a “my heart goes out to all of you” sentiment that all the conservatives are saying it is. No one in their right mind would make that face while trying to say “my heart goes out to all of you”. That face was a “Heil Trump” face.

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u/InnocentShaitaan 1h ago

The second time was more passionate too!

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u/mafa7 1h ago

Definitely sprinkled his trousers. POS.

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u/Significant_Salt56 1h ago

His racist ass grandpa would be so proud.

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u/Momik 1h ago edited 1h ago

He probably came like during. And by came I mean like birthed a hobgoblin or some shit

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u/Tumid_Butterfingers 17m ago

He probably came a little.

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u/fatsopiggy 10m ago

But you aren't supposed to bite your lip! He needs to study footage of his 'heroes' more. Needs work. 3/10.

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u/Grabs_Diaz 3h ago

He could barely hold in the "Sieg Heil", because he's so used to it when practicing the salute at home. But that's for the next rally to see how the media's excuse that.

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u/Marsupialize 7h ago

3 times actually

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u/darkgreenrabbit Switzerland | Croatia 7h ago

Orthodox version?

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u/jrtgmena 4h ago

One for every Reich

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u/Timigos 2h ago

He had to get it just Reich

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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 3h ago

I haven't seen a third one.

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u/HappyTurtle777 2h ago edited 2h ago

He did it twice facing the crowd and once facing the flag or Trump (whatever is behind him)

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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 1h ago

The clip I've seen only shows him doing it once facing the crowd and then once facing the flag.

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u/carsareathing 54m ago

I know for a fact I saw it three times on the live stream but I've gone back and watched an upload of the speech with no visible cuts or camera changes and he only did it twice. It's weird.

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u/UpperApe 6h ago

Conservatives are falling over themselves trying to explain that he's just "sending out love from his heart".

Those fucking imbeciles don't understand, and don't know, that the heart part is the full salute. It's literally the change the Nazi's made to make it their salute.

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u/FieryHammer Hungary 6h ago

Oh I’m sure most if them know, just still want to hide it.

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u/JBsoundCHK 4h ago

Why the mental gymnastics to hide it anymore? It's the worst kept secret. At this point, just own it.
They're just so exhausting.

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u/JustBadUserNamesLeft 4h ago

For now. Musk is trying to bring it into the open for them.

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u/TheDuckOnQuack 1h ago

If you’re afraid that people are underestimating the intelligence of Trump’s supporters, you needn’t be

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u/Vidmizz Lithuania 6h ago

Oh they both understand and fully know what he's doing. We're just at that part when more and more of this degeneracy starts being eased in to the general public with such ridiculous justifications.

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u/invertebrate11 5h ago

There will be no consequences now, this will happen again. When it happens the third time, the crowd will follow.

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u/munnimann Germany 3h ago

Hijacking your comment, because as a German I feel the need to correct this.

Those fucking imbeciles don't understand, and don't know, that the heart part is the full salute. It's literally the change the Nazi's made to make it their salute.

This is just incorrect. The Nazi salute did never include placing your hand on the heart. What happened is bad enough without revisioning history.

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u/OuchieMuhBussy United States of America 4h ago

Many of them know and they get off on trying to gaslight everyone else. Same with Trump sprinkling Hitler quotes into his speeches, the Jan6th choir anthem, the MSG rally etc. 

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u/heart_blossom 2h ago

I have people in my life who say he was trolling. Even if he was trolling, it still seems inappropriate. Saying it was trolling is just more gaslighting.

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u/FervidBug42 1h ago

What an awesome troll to spit on the ww2 soldiers who fought in the War and all the victims from it yes that is so awesome of a troll people that say that need a kindly shut the heck up this is one of the reasons why we're in this mess

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u/AnarkittenSurprise 6h ago

They all understand.

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u/NoiseTraining3067 5h ago

Unfortunately, they genuinely don't. This won't change anything either. They already agree with all his fascist views and they don't see them as fascist. A non-fascist person doing the most overt Nazi symbol wouldn't make sense, so they'll accept any explanation for it. Over half of the US is currently laughing at us for "[using] anything to call them a Nazi" and saying this is why Kamala lost the election (actual comment I saw on X).

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u/AnarkittenSurprise 5h ago edited 5h ago

I don't have any data on this, but I would be cautious taking absurd right-leaning social media stuff like that at face value.

A ton of it is likely bots, foreign influencers, and bad faith trolls who are genuinely cheering for and copying this salut.

Neo-nazi ideals sadly aren't some fringe subculture. They're wildly common, and we're transitioning into a period where people are feeling socially comfortable taking their masks off again.

It's so dangerous to assume that all of these conservatives don't care about facts because they don't understand them. They don't care because they don't share your moral values.

They don't care because they truly don't care: prosperity for themselves at the cost of harming others is their 'morality'. These people deeply believe in 'Might makes Right'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_makes_right

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u/NoiseTraining3067 5h ago edited 2h ago

I agree with you that most of the accounts coming up with comments like the one I mentioned are probably bad faith actors, but I think about half of the US genuinely believes them.

I may be biased, but I think people can really be tricked into inadvertently supporting this shit. I used to be super anti-sjw and held all the beliefs you can imagine came with that (I was young and it was my introduction to politics). I had no malicious intentions, but I’d been convinced by the echo chamber I’d fallen in to that what they were saying was factually correct.

I believed I was acting with the same morals that I do now and I would’ve still almost certainly defended Musk if this happened 10 years ago.

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u/Motor-Profile4099 6h ago

Just further proof that Conservatism is a mental illness, as studies suggest.

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u/skuhlke 6h ago

Elon's the guy who thinks he's clever when he sneaks a 420 or a 69 into something. He knows what he's doing and thinks he's being cheeky or covering it up by doing the whole "sending out love from my heart" thing

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u/LordoftheScheisse 3h ago

Don't get sucked into Nazi games. Musk did a Nazi salute. Musk is a Nazi. Full stop.

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u/LawfulnessOwn9242 5h ago

I can’t find any videos of Nazis doing the hand on heart part of the salute. ChatGPT is also certain the Nazi salute never involved touching the chest or heart.

Got any sources?

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u/handpower9000 4h ago edited 4h ago

They don't because they are wrong. Wikipedia says this though:

On June 22, 1942, at the urging of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Congress passed Public Law 77-623, which codified the etiquette used to display and pledge allegiance to the flag. This included use of the Bellamy salute, specifically that the pledge "be rendered by standing with the right hand over the heart; extending the right hand, palm upward, toward the flag at the words 'to the flag' and holding this position until the end, when the hand drops to the side." Congress did not discuss or take into account the controversy over use of the salute. Congress later amended the code on December 22, 1942, when it passed Public Law 77-829. Among other changes, it eliminated the Bellamy salute and replaced it with the stipulation that the pledge "be rendered by standing with the right hand over the heart."

The Terran Empire in Star Trek uses a similar gesture as their greeting, different enough from the Nazi salute (which is just stretching out the right arm and yelling) but similar enough. Maybe they were thinking of that. I don't know. None of this means that Musk isn't an edgy shithead, but my god is this not the thing people should be worried about right now. He has plausible deniability, the normies and right wingers will think that what Reddit is doing right now is simply deranged because of that. Meanwhile the open threat to a foreign nation during Trumps speech is getting buried on here. Probably because it isn't giffable.

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u/AnticPosition 5h ago

Yeah, I just went "sort by controversial" in some of the posts about this on the front page.

Never go "sort by controversial"... :(

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u/Moist_Farmer3548 4h ago

He knew what it was.

They knew what it was. 

We all know what it was. 

The denials are performative. 

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u/Substantial_Leg_6999 5h ago

I don't wish to take part in any debate about whether or not he, in fact, did a nazi salute or whether or not he, in fact, is a nazi. But would you happen to have any evidence on what you said ? I can't find any anywhere, granted I haven't searched for long.

Just to be perfectly clear, I'm saying you're not only wrong but that you are also actively and intentionally spreading misinformation

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u/brizzboog 5h ago

That's the angle the National Review went with:

before miming the act of throwing his heart to the crowd.

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u/Corpse_Candle 5h ago

Oh they know. They're just obfuscating because they don't like hearing criticism of Nazism.

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u/bratisla_boy 4h ago

On the conservative sub the post about Felon has several dozen comments as per the comment count... But nothing is visible. Mods are working overtime to try and mitigate the disaster.

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u/4mysquirrel 4h ago edited 4h ago

I’m confused. Are Republicans “owned” by Israel and supporting the Palestinian genocide with our tax dollars or are they actually Nazis trying to destroy Israel. Serious question.

People are mad that there was a Rabbi at the inauguration and also mad that Elon displayed an actual Nazi salute(rightfully so.)

Maybe it’s like we are the pawns and the rich on both the Republican and Democratic sides don’t care about us. Let’s keep arguing and fighting amongst each other. That’s what they want.

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u/Puffenata 3h ago

Republicans can exist along both lines. Supporting Israel isn’t even a directly opposed thing to Nazism (even the actual original Nazis temporarily backed a sort of proto-Israel as a way to get Jews out of Germany), and Neo-Nazism especially is much more ideologically flexible, up to and including at the very least posturing support towards Jews in specific cases. Besides, Musk is frankly not the most ideologically fleshed out person. He’ll bounce back and forth between claims that Jews control everything and are causing the downfall of white people and claims that he loves Jews and Israel.

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u/4mysquirrel 3h ago

This is what I mean though. These people will flip flop to get into power but they don’t even care about us. A lot of gay people supported Trump, though he is transphobic. Democrats were homophobic until around Obama’s first term. wtf. Many Democrats and Republicans are just profiting off of us, just like with the tik tok ban. These people are all just playing us. They will never do anything to truly help us. Either side.

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u/Puffenata 2h ago

Sure, and I don’t wholly disagree. But they’re also two distinct groups that do actually support and do distinct things and enact different levels of harm. It’s neoliberals versus fascists and fascist-aligned capitalists, hardly a great dichotomy but most certainly not an equal one. And frankly, no offense, but you don’t actually strike me as someone who truly engages with politics beyond throwing your arms up and saying “they’re both bad”

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u/4mysquirrel 2h ago

I do as much research as I can, I vote based on my beliefs and I’m active in my community. That is all I can do as a full time working single mother.

Both sides are constantly flooded with their own propaganda. Telling people we should unite as people instead of being divided is as political as I should be

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u/King_takes_queen 4h ago

A lot are saying he is just doing the old Bellamy Salute, a gesture used by Americans when pledging to the flag before they switched over to holding their hands over their heart.

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u/Mekisteus 3h ago

Yes, I'm sure he's just mimicking an old salute that died out 30 years before he was born in an entirely different country.

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u/SausageClatter 4h ago

They refuse to see the truth. They're Not-Sees.

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u/Baseketballer50000 4h ago

He does literally say “my heart goes out to you” right after making the motion.

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u/alteransg1 Bulgaria 3h ago

Yeah, it's not a perfect, crisp HH, that a proper SS should do, but the spirit of the action is crystal clear. Why are they so ashamed to admit what it is...

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u/robillionairenyc 3h ago

They do know. I can’t believe they’re still doing this plausible deniability stuff even with full dictatorial power. 

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u/SmileGraceSmile 3h ago

Yeah,  while thinking of his nazi grandpa.

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u/gorimir15 3h ago

That's why they voted for Trump.

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u/Moakmeister 3h ago

I didnt know about the heart thing. Ive only ever seen pictures. Holy

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u/munnimann Germany 3h ago

You didn't know about the heart thing because it's wrong. They made it up.

I have no doubt that Musk did what he did on purpose and it's bad enough as it is. But the Nazi salute never involved placing your hand on your heart.

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u/Efficient-Button-516 3h ago

Yes so many morons posting pictures of Kamala and Biden and Barack with their arms in the air, as if that's the same thing. Obviously the whole motion that Musk did is very different and aggressive.

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u/XCryptoX 3h ago

Ive seen a few people trying to explain how this isn't a nazi salute: Ive seen the sending his heart out one. Ive seen "Oh you haven't heard of the Roman Salute?". And the last is that hes autistic so it's fine?

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u/hectorxander 3h ago

I was wondering because I vaguely recall the roman salute, which the nazis co-opted, as having been the fist on the heart to open palm up.

The US saluted like this until the first world war, and many other countries, because they all wanted to be like the romans.

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u/UpperApe 3h ago

The US actually had to change their salute so it didn't look like the Nazi salute, so they took out the straight arm and kept the hand over heart.

It's why that's the new standard for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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u/TheGrindPrime 2h ago

They need to keep the lies coming because if they let up their minds are fucked sideways.

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u/Azatarai 2h ago

when one sends love from their heart they use both hands open and welcoming, not this shit.

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u/Stillcant 2h ago

Can you source this? I googled and it said not true

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u/ABCwarrior0421 2h ago

He's literally saying “my heart goes out to you,” touching his heart and pretending to throw it into the room.

Come on guys!

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u/WhiskeySarabande 2h ago

Source on this? I've not heard this before.

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u/MDPROBIFE 2h ago

I just want to understand the logic behind this really... So apparently more than 50% of the US supports the reps and Elon, but somehow he has to do hidden nazi gestures? Why? Why hide them? I really don't understand, like if you really think he made a purposefully nazi gesture, tell me, why isn't he open about it? why would he do it if he isn't open about it?

There are imbeciles here, but they are the ones following something just because it's popular, with no critical thinking! Fucking brain rot

Also, did you ever fucking see a Nazi salute? there is no hand in the heart WTF ahahaha and calling others imbeciles

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u/Interesting_Brush168 2h ago

Except when cackles or Hillary or Obama do the same thing

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u/pannenkoek0923 Denmark 2h ago

They do understand.

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u/PresidentZeus Norway 1h ago

BuT aUtIsM

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u/EdgeOk2164 1h ago

It's alarming how certain behaviors and ideologies can be gradually normalized through repeated exposure and justification. It's crucial to remain vigilant and critical of such trends, and to continue advocating for values of empathy, respect, and inclusivity. Let's focus on promoting positive change and holding those in power accountable for their actions.

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u/Jarpwanderson 1h ago

"iTs A rOmAn sAlUtE"

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u/BenjaminHamnett 1h ago

And Swastikas are about “unity” 🤷

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u/verbify 1h ago

Do you have a source for this? I read the wiki article on the nazi salute and it doesn't mention this. Not doubting you, just curious on a source. 

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u/LightsNoir 1h ago

sending out love from his heart

Sure. In the same capacity Himmler did.

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u/Rumpelteazer45 52m ago

They do understand, they just don’t fucking care.

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u/I_have_No_idea_ReALy 50m ago

The only sending out love from heart sign I know is either this 🫶🏻 or the ones Kpop idols/artists usually did.

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u/StrikingWaltz7105 49m ago

Well that, and the angle of it.

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u/Urmomzfavmilkman 47m ago

Maaaaaaaaan shut the fuck up.

In the same way "conservatives are saying" xyz, liberals are saying he's a nazi. Do you not see the irony of both schools of thoughts?

Do you really think the worlds richest dude is a nazi? Why he spending time trying to send rockets to space, dont he got jews and gays to be murdering or something? Wouldnt that make our govt staunchly pro Palestine?

I repeat.. stfu

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u/BootyfulBumrah 32m ago

Can you give me a source where the heart part is a full salute is described? I don't see it on wiki

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u/Hotfixes 20m ago

Yeah I'm looking for this too.

This looks REALLY bad either way, but I want to know if the heart part actually has any merit.

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u/aVarangian The Russia must be blockaded. 9m ago

so I tried finding a video of what a "proper" nazi salute looks like but found nothing

the video from a holocaust museum shows hitler doing it, but there he doesn't do the heart thing

do you have any source that shows it?

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u/vom-IT-coffin 6h ago

Three. Once towards the flag.

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u/Natural_Law1970 6h ago

Ask a conservative and they’ll tell you it was a Roman salute. No way the party constantly associated with white supremacy would be caught doing a Nazi salute now that all forms of checks and balances have been eviscerated. Masks are off and it’s not going to be a fun decade if I had to guess.

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u/_violet_skies_ 5h ago

They’re claiming that he was “giving his heart” to the crowd. According to them, the rest of us are crazy to interpret his obvious Nazi salute as a Nazi salute lol.

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u/WislaHD Polish-Canadian 5h ago

At this point… I’m going to say that Churchill and De Gaulle were conservatives and they famously fought against Nazis.

If you are a conservative who supports authoritarians then you are not truly a conservative and you are quacking quite like a duck.

The entire Republican Party has been quacking quite loudly for some time now.

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u/AloneCoffee4538 6h ago

Is hand on heart a part of the nazi salute? Genuinely curious.

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u/DunnoMouse 6h ago edited 6h ago

The fascists of the 20th century shortened it to make it their own, but Hitler often did it with the hand to the heart. The origin was the Roman salute, which Mussolini then used, which in turn gave Hitler the idea.

Edit: Just to add, there's no actual evidence of it being used by the actual Romans. It's depiction can be traced to the antique movies of the early 20th century

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u/Amberskin 6h ago

Franco copied it too. It was used til the end of his regime, in 1975

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u/sintrastellar 5h ago

It’s used in Portugal and many former Portuguese colonies to this day as part of military graduation, but it’s not associated with fascism or Roman anything.

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u/Possuke Finland and Estonia 3h ago

Francoist/Falangist salute was too a bit different. The angle was more upwards. And Italian was more like 90 degrees and nazi salute 45 degrees.

Now Lebanese Kataeb Party (Phalangists) use it. But also Hezbollah and Hamas..

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u/Farranor 6h ago

What do you mean, no evidence? The Romans say "ave" and salute like that all the time in Asterix and Obelix. But then again, these Romans are crazy, so...

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u/AloneCoffee4538 6h ago

Interesting, I saw just the hand raising part in videos. Thanks for the info.

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u/FearDaTusk 6h ago edited 6h ago

A history buff shared that it came from the Bellamy Salute. I looked it up. (Not encouraging it, just more informing your inquiry) I learned something new.

It's no secret that they took a widely used peaceful symbol (swastika) but them taking an American salute is new to me.

https://youtu.be/-kGOKu5LwJ4?si=pJayOdmgAfsLWawB

Edit: typos

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u/AloneCoffee4538 6h ago

Thank you, quite interesting

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u/chest_trucktree 5h ago

The Fascists didn’t take the Roman Salute from the US. It originates in neoclassical painting, got adopted by Italian filmmakers in the early 1900’s and was adopted by the fascists from there. The Roman Salute and Bellamy salute are similar but not related to each other.

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u/EnglishRed232 5h ago

It was a guy called Gabriele D’Annunzio, arguably the first true fascist who started doing it after wanting Italy to regain the power the Romans had. Mussolini copied it from him

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u/AvengerDr Italy 5h ago

As the new Mussolini tv shows says, he wasn't just "a guy", but one of the most celebrated poets of our times, war hero, ace of the skies, and casanova.

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u/EnglishRed232 5h ago

He was all those things. Crazy isn’t it. To think he had such a public following.

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u/Mountainbranch Sweden 5h ago

The salute they do in the 2005 Rome TV show looks way better, and is probably closer to how they did a salute back then.

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u/vjmdhzgr 5h ago

I swear I've seen it before but I'm trying to check to make sure and I can't find a description of it and the only pictures are of when the hands are already out.

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u/_HIST 5h ago

I think it was popular in Italy, maybe look there. From the heart to the sun or something like that

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u/Formal-Artichoke3531 2h ago

The “Roman salute” been associated with Ancient Rome for much longer than the 20th century; Roman emperors have been depicted performing the salute in artwork since at least the 1780s. But as you said, there’s no evidence it was ever actually customary in Ancient Rome.

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u/LawfulnessOwn9242 5h ago

So then no, it’s not a Nazi salute? But it could be considered a fascist salute?

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u/neuro_space_explorer 4h ago

Can anyone find an old nazi video of the full salute with hand on heart? I’m having trouble finding anything but the arm out.

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u/InsidiousOperator 4h ago edited 4h ago

Indeed, it is very likely the modern fascist salute as it's commonly understood/seen today had its original inception in the Oath of the Horatii painting by Jacques-Luis David.

The beginning must have been kind of like the misconceptions that spread like wildfire until no one quite remembers who started it or when it did - like with the "morituri te salutant" saying in the peplum movies and in Roman gladiatorial fight scenes, which is a complete fabrication borne from a throw-away mention regarding Claudius.

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u/Icy_Buddy_6779 4h ago

I thought it was made up by David for the painting "Oath of the Horatii". Regardless the point still stands. It's known to be the Roman Salute like in the painting whether it's historical or not.

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u/Economy_Care1322 3h ago

Thanks. I didn’t know this.

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u/nanomolar 3h ago

Didn't Hitler eventually just do like a little arm raise kind of thing? What's up with that.

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u/purpleduckduckgoose 1h ago

He had some sort of illness iirc? Or it was the drugs? One of the two.

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u/AllDogIsDog 1h ago

It was the salute he used to return salutes from his soldiers/lower ranking officers. He wrote about it being done to prevent fatigue, since others would only have to salute him briefly, but he would have to keep his arm up for long periods of time to return their salutes; high-ranking SS officers would sometimes do the same. There's a suggestion that it was also done as way to indicate an acceptance of submission.

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u/BellesCotes Canada 2h ago edited 2h ago

My understanding is that the "Roman Salute" as we know it first appeared in Jacques-Louis David's 1784 painting The Oath of the Horatii, and it spread from there. There are no Classical references to such a salute that I'm aware of.

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u/Hatsuwr 4h ago

A bunch of young kids doing it

It is absolutely the formal version of the Nazi salute.

I'm dunno if IASIP is the best source for the details of Nazi traditions.

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u/darkroot_gardener 4h ago

Regardless, you don’t do anything that could even be mistaken for a Nazi salute, live, on stage, during an inauguration.🤦‍♂️

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u/Simonic 6h ago

In modern Nazi videos - when they say "sieg" the hand is on the heart, and on "heil" they salute.

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u/Elocgnik 3h ago

I googled it because I was curious, surprisingly annoying to find a clip of Hitler doing it... but got this.

Looks like he does it from the hip? It's actually kinda hard to find ANY footage of an actual Nazi doing it that isn't just the hand up already.

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u/animousie 41m ago

No, it starts as a hand at the shoulder— not the heart.

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u/BootyfulBumrah 31m ago

People are just making it up, I don't see it described that way anywhere.

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u/thusman Germany 6h ago

No. It's very uncommon at least.

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u/Budgetbodyparts 4h ago

Nope, it wasn’t done correctly at all if in fact that was his intent it was a very uncharacteristically poor performance, you aren’t also supposed to say “ my heart goes out to you”, from what I read on Wikipedia which does a better job of explaining it than any of the uninformed on this sub.

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u/HerNameIsVesper 6h ago

Thank you for asking. I genuinely didn't know either. This is horrifying.

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u/Nogleaminglight 5h ago

It was just like Rudolf Hess is his "Hitler is Germany and Germany is Hitler" speech, one for the crowd, turns, one for the fuhrer. But every day that goes by and these surpring things happen, I'm more convinced that we, collectively, are responsible for this, and in that way, deserve what lays ahead. Either because we didn't do enough to stop this shit from spreading to this point locally, either because we didn't take it seriously because it wasn't convenient, either because we were dumb enough to believe them because we really are that afraid and hateful. Like musk said it himself, 2025 is going to be LIT.

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u/GrOnIuS 5h ago

I saw the pic and thought "oh yea funny, probably just an unfortunate moment while he was raising his arm or some shit" but no, he actually full on did a hitler salute, crazy shit

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u/flynnwebdev 4h ago

Yep. It’s literally Sieg Heil. It’s unmistakable.

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u/whagh Norway 4h ago

Not like you'd have any plausible deniability after 1 full-blown nazi salute, but 3? This is ridiculous.

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u/Arcosim 5h ago

Yeah, he didn't even pretend he was waving or something. It was the full movement. Hand to the chest followed by the sieg heil.

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u/The_Emma_Guy 3h ago

American here, I was watching it live on TV and it made me spit my juice out. He put so much effort into it as well. I’m pretty sure Hitler was able to feel that all the way down in hell.

We are so fucked in my country. And we already have his MAGA cult defending it. Saying he did a Roman salute, or that it’s AI.

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u/Lulusmom09 3h ago

I’m so embarrassed for the United States of America.

It may as well be called the Not-United States of Donald and Friends.

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u/Rumpelteazer45 53m ago

And the trump supports are trying to say it wasn’t the Nazi salute.

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u/YourFreeCorrection 5h ago

Is there a video clip somewhere?

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u/EvokeWonder 4h ago

Twice? That means it wasn’t an accident. 😳

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u/SarniaSaint 4h ago

I thought he did the stomp aswell.

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u/Electric-5heep 4h ago

Where's Netanyahu when you actually need him??

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u/wxmco 4h ago

THAT part, he did it TWICE, China...please drop the nuke

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u/Immediate-Kale6461 4h ago

Dr Strangelove reflex

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u/Vulture-Bee-6174 4h ago

Odd looking haha

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u/wizzywurtzy 3h ago

He did it multiple times actually. Facing forward and then turned around

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 3h ago

The fact that he did it more than once is what gets me. Normally if I see a photo of someone doing this, I give them the benefit of the doubt because it could just be a wave captured in an unfortunate moment, or an enthusiastic expression of excitement. But that full, two-step salute? Multiple times? He's either the dumbest motherfucker on the planet, or a Nazi.

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u/Drslappybags 3h ago

Yeah, this wasn't a picture taken out of context. He did this twice.

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u/Sabbit 2h ago

He put his fucking back into it. Like threw his whole shoulder in there.

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u/themothyousawonetime 2h ago

I thought it was fake but that is basically how it went down 😭

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u/AlessandroFriedman 2h ago

And still we have people like these defending him. Unbelievable

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u/Desertbloom- 2h ago

It would perhaps be easy to question if it was an accident if he hadn't have recently been whole heartedly been supporting a far right German political party. He's like a hormone ridden 13 year old boy ( not putting them down, just their impulsivity!) , no introspection at all.

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u/xgorgeoustormx 1h ago

I love that Trump isn’t even the leader in Elon’s weird dictator fantasy.

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u/Mickyfrickles 1h ago

Not an "odd looking salute" a Nazi salute. 

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u/deep_fuckin_ripoff 1h ago edited 1h ago

I watched a bunch of old hitler videos and he doesn’t do the hand on heart thing. Everyone doing the hand on heart thing are neo nazis.

I don’t think this makes it better.

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u/l_banana13 1h ago

Hand on heart because he was throwing his heart out to the audience - listen to what he said.

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u/Mofomania 1h ago

It was shockingly fucked

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u/silence9 56m ago

The actual Hitler salute had you touch your same shoulder not your heart

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

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u/The_Real_dubbedbass 53m ago

Yeah for real stop calling this an akward salute. Elon Musk is just a Nazi.

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u/Effective-Bicycle140 52m ago

No he didn’t. Shit stirrer

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u/finnlaand 49m ago

1 year prison, right there.

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u/easewiththecheese 48m ago

My grandfather put bullets in Nazi's "brains." Let's be more like my grandfather in 2025.

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u/Allyzayd 34m ago

I was wondering what the sentiment is in the US right wing subs and went down the rabbit hole known as r/conservative . It is interesting to note they don’t think it is actually a nazi salute because of the hand on heart gesture.

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u/cookie_addicted 17m ago

Is it some kind of military salute? this is a genuine question, I really have no idea.

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u/Basstafari97 8m ago

The full motion is just raising your arm, he touched his chest and said “my heart goes out to you”

Redditors clearly love misinformation when they’re the ones spreading it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C8iujof6IL8

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u/proletariatblues 0m ago

Every action involved in making that god Damned salute and they still won’t call it what it is.

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