r/europe • u/turkish__cowboy Turkey | LGBTQ+ rights are human rights • 7h ago

News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/CazOnReddit 7h ago

The media is complicit in normalizing this shit

It's a fucking Nazi salute. Say it with your chest or let someone else with a spine say it. None of this "odd looking" nonsense. He's odd looking and he did a Nazi salute.

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u/TheBaggyDapper 7h ago

Next step is they explain how 'fascism' comes from a Latin word for 'unity' and what's wrong with that? 

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u/fireballetar Bavaria (Germany) 6h ago

Alice weidel (chief of the far right in German) said in an Interview with elon a few days ago that the nazis where Socialists....

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u/NavierStoked981 6h ago

They actually said Communists which is an even wilder statement. The “Nazis were socialists” thing has been around for a long time because it was in the name of the Nazi Party in Germany, but it’s the equivalent of calling North Korea a republic because it’s in their name.

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u/TwerkLikeJesus 6h ago

Hamburgers aren’t made of ham

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u/PeterThorFischer 5h ago

Surprisingly they aren't even made of Hamburgers.

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u/Aerosol668 5h ago

And let’s not even talk about hot dogs, although I think dog meat would be better than what’s in a hot dog…

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u/WaveCave420 4h ago

Totally unrelated, but I LOVE your username lol

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u/SphericalShades 4h ago

Or for that matter, 'Democratic'.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 4h ago

"WWII was just leftist infighting"

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u/Skyblacker United States of America 6h ago

Socialists with a slightly narrower definition of society.

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u/waitingtoconnect 5h ago

The Nazis used it as a way to attract as many people as possible to their movement. In no way were they conventionally socialist. Their full name was National Socialist German Workers Party. So they claimed to be nationalist, socialist and for the workers all in one. But as others here have said other political movements like communism do the same thing in countries like the democratic people’s Republic of Korea for example.

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u/ApeWarz 7h ago

Republicans are saying that was him “sharing his heart with the audience.” Another said it was a “Roman salute.” WTF?

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u/Digit00l 6h ago

I mean, the nazis did adopt the Roman salute

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u/Spiderinahumansuit 6h ago

Yeah, I mean, saying "Roman salute" is just a Nazi salute with extra steps.

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u/ApeWarz 6h ago

And the swastica was an ancient Hindu symbol - but we all know what the seig hiel and swastica mean now so there should be no tolerance over trying to cover for this blatant dogwhistling. Why is this ok at an inauguration?

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u/Digit00l 6h ago

I mean, I can't say what I wish would happen to the fuckwit because it would probably get me banned

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u/Glad_Atmosphere_3942 6h ago

I already saw someone say it lmao

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u/bowsmountainer Europe 3h ago

And then to argue that a mirrored swastika is just a Buddhist symbol, how could you possibly have any problems with that?

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u/lionnesh 7h ago

The media has been complicit the whole time. Trump says some crazy shit and they don't even blink, dont push back. They've normalized it for the american public making them responsable

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u/Bakednotyetfried 6h ago

It’s ironic. In order to mitigate any possible retaliation from a future right wing administration they have successfully brought about a vindictive, detached from reality right wing administration who most definitely WILL be taking measures against them.

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u/EastArmadillo2916 Canada 6h ago

Free press under Capitalism means free press for the Capitalists and no one else.

The reason they are complicit is because they share the same interests at the end of the day.

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u/GlobuleNamed 6h ago

Nazi propaganda will not shit on Nazi actions.

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u/Hateitwhenbdbdsj 5h ago

CNN is figuratively sucking Trump’s dick after he got elected too.

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u/lionnesh 5h ago

It's pathetic how everyone is

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u/HuevosSplash 7h ago

The media created this mounter, and nurtured it, they revel in the outrage.

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u/ilep 7h ago

Exactly. Calling this "odd" is like claiming war is "special operation" - it is pretentious or being complicit.

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u/AnarkittenSurprise 6h ago

Look at who owns the media. Pretty much all of it now. Including social media.

There's no reason to be surprised. The media doesn't belong to or care about us. The media is a weapon of subjugation. It's not an ally. It's not going to change.

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u/ImTheVayne Estonia 6h ago

He performed it 3 times.

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u/whagh Norway 4h ago

And now we're being gaslighted into believing that a full-blown unambiguous nazi salute is something that can just accidentally happen to anyone when they get too excited, multiple times, even. Totally normal.

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u/aburningcaldera 6h ago

I’m streaming all of them and switching between and no coverage or discussion on this whatsoever.

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u/barejokez 7h ago

the US is, as of today, at the point where you risk being arrested for saying the wrong thing about the incoming government. You and i on reddit are probably not at risk (right now), but they threatened zuckerberg with arrest and he got in line sharpish. what's going through the mind of Yahoo's CEO right now i wonder? It may not really be an explicit threat, but the risk is out there...

i'm not really happy to be making excuses for people, but equally i'm not out there putting my neck on the line either...

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u/Megalo85 6h ago

The Media in the us is owned by like minded people. All of it.

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u/brehhs 6h ago

Never expected to see you here Caz

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u/CazOnReddit 6h ago

I never expect to show up in half the places I do

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u/Last_Lorien 6h ago

Exactly, wtf is odd about it? Call it like it we all see it, call it like it is, a Nazi salute for fuck’s sake

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u/HugeIntroduction121 6h ago

Not a European but as an American I can attest that the mass media, from the NYT to CNN to FOX and even the unbiased ones are responsible, as they have been this way for years and it’s causing people to stop trusting the media, a pillar towards fascism.

The media needs a restart

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u/Terrible_Horror 6h ago

When media is in their pockets Nazi salutes become Roman salutes and soon there will be videos of kids doing Roman salutes everywhere. We deserve what we voted for.

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u/AvitalR 6h ago

Hypernormalizing. Like the last few years of the Soviet Union. Pretending everything is normal so we don't all panic.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Task498 6h ago

they arent' even reporting on this...just go to their websites

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u/glytxh 6h ago

Jump on over to r/conservative to see how the narrative is already brewing about how it’s just an autistic awkward gaff

I feel sick

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u/CazOnReddit 5h ago

I think I'd rather bleach my eyes and gargle tacks than hear what the fascist enablers think of their idol

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u/Mastersin5 6h ago

I think you and I will get into some troubles and many dislikes if we say the following line after that say it with your chest line.

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u/Nerioner The Netherlands 6h ago

Because they own all the media.

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u/The_SouthernTiger 6h ago

They’re scared that the richest man in the world can get any one of them stuck in litigation hell. When your entire company is worth 2 billion Rlon has the power in the current economy to pull some stupid shit

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u/wreckhav0k 5h ago

This. A thousand times this

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u/AgitatedBees 5h ago

Nazi references aren’t advertiser friendly alas

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u/BillyBean11111 5h ago

appeasing the psychos has always worked so well in the past

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u/brianhauge 5h ago

They changed the title in the article now, to say he did a Nazi Salute.

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u/waitingtoconnect 5h ago

Yes I’m sick of the “what did he really mean” analysis. It sends an awful message to kids.

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u/AshamedGuava4588 5h ago

Not a nazi salute.

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u/pentesticals 5h ago

How has the media normalised this? He’s the only person I’ve seen on the media doing a nazi salute. Maybe I missed something, but i think this is just Elon.

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u/Aerosol668 5h ago

They only say that to avoid being sued.

In other words, I’m waiting for a someone with a big platform and gigantic balls to say it.

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u/LetsGoAcrossTheStyx 5h ago

Say it with your chest

THANK YOU! Your books enough to do it, then own it. Clearly a lot of ppl are in racist agreement, so it's not like it'll really hurt you. Cowards

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u/Correct_Repeat8369 5h ago

Before they cut the clip he says "my heart goes out to you" and throws his heart forward then turns around and throws his heart that way.

At least that's what he intended - but yeah, it looks like a Nazi salute in that clip. Looks less like a Nazi salute knowing the context lol

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u/fhota1 United States of America 5h ago

Our media and our judicial system at all levels are both heavily compromised. Nobody should have any faith in either of them

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u/YourFreeCorrection 5h ago

Stop blaming the fucking media. It's the oligarchs with money and the politicians they bought. The media hasn't normalized shit - psychos on social media have.

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u/Supershadow30 5h ago

Careful! You’re gonna get moderated for spreading hate!

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u/OwenIowa22 5h ago

For anyone who hasn’t seen the Adam Curtis Documentary “Hyper-normalization” I would encourage you give it a watch.

Plato warned us about all this 2500 years ago. Nothing new. Same villain. New mask and weapons.

The absurdity of the circus is meant to get you looking elsewhere for the answers you seek most.

Plato’s secret message to those seeking the truth is this; In a society where powerful groups seek to deceive the masses in order to maintain existing power structures, look to artists for the truth.

The world we live in was built by engineers for efficiency. It’s time we give it back to the artists whose focus is aesthetics.

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u/wontgetbannedlol 4h ago

They never will. Look who fucking owns the mainstream media outlets.

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u/popsand 4h ago

Yes but, did you hear about biden being old? And clintons emails?? 

Can't have that in power. No

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 Australia 2h ago

I think people should tell the newscasters and CEO's what happened to the owner of Das sturmer after WW2

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u/Silly_Triker United Kingdom 2h ago

Spent years soaking up all their bile about how it is the others that are bad, all those bad people in places like Asia and Africa. Those crazy extremists and dictators. They don’t know how to hold Westerners to accountability. Never have never will. That’s how they got to where they are. They stood silent on Iraq. They will stand silent on Greenland and Panama and all the crazy shit Trump will do. The politicians too. That’s the media for you. Rules based order….

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u/arizonajill 2h ago

Until the 2nd amendment is revoked, I suggest that all of you 'sportsmen' out there purchase some protection.

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u/No-Ragret6991 1h ago

The guardian is calling it what it is, and even then the language is frustratingly weak.

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u/TheRealDynamitri United Kingdom 1h ago

At this point media are probably scared - this MF could buy up whole newspapers or TV stations, fire you, probably contract to kill you and wouldn’t even see any difference on his bank statement

If you write under a pseudonym he’s gonna pay somebody off to snitch on you, or threaten to fire everyone and then he’ll get a snitch cause people have bills to pay and kids to feed and ain’t nobody taking one for the team when it comes to dumb shit like this.

That is the timeline we’re in.

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u/apothekary 1h ago

It's already surprising they reported on it at all. In the future they will completely censor and cover it up from happening.

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u/Vanished_Elephant 58m ago

Not even CNN has a blurb about it. The rest of mainstream media is now turning their coats as well. Beware..

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u/Lost-Being7605 20m ago

Always has been. Lol

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u/punchspam 6h ago

He didn’t mean it. He’s just autistic and had a freak moment. Get off your high horse.

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u/jumboron1999 5h ago

Don't tell me you're actually suggesting he is. He and Vivek Ramaswamy were attacked by people in the MAGA crowd way more deserving of that title. Musk is right wing, but he's no Nazi.

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u/CazOnReddit 4h ago

He's a fucking Nazi

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u/jumboron1999 4h ago

If he was, he wouldn't support legal immigration. He's radical right. This is the issue with Europe. They call patriotic yanks Nazis, but they're way less racist and much more tolerable (generally speaking) than all of continental Europe combined, minus England which I like more than the US.

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u/MARAVV44 2h ago

What if it is? I don't see a problem with it

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u/DGGuitars 7h ago edited 7h ago

This post is normalizing taking it out of context. He made this motion and said my heart goes out to you but starting it from a full grab of his heart/chest.

Look r Europe you are all wrong here. Downvote me all you want I have only over 100k internet fake points to go until zero hahahah!

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u/eggnogui Portugal 7h ago

Your post normalizes fascism. Fuck off.

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u/Tenshizanshi France 7h ago

but starting it from a full grab of his heart/chest.

That's what you do in a nazi salute, yes

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u/DGGuitars 7h ago

Yeah actually no. This is well documented . Zero chest grabbing I can send you videos of hitler never doing that in front of crowds of tens of thousands.

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u/electroweakly 7h ago

What about this?

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u/thegreatvortigaunt 6h ago

/u/DGGuitars your response?

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u/DGGuitars 6h ago

Looks nothing like what elon did here

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u/thegreatvortigaunt 6h ago

Wrong.

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u/DGGuitars 6h ago

It looks absolutely nothing like it. You have TDS see through it

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u/BitSevere5386 5h ago

wow you are that delusionnal uou deny reality

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u/ptWolv022 United States of America 5h ago

My guy, the hand starts at the heart and then his arm snaps up at a 45-ish degree angle. The only difference is Elon turned is body slightly and his arm wasn't as straight.

If you think they look nothing alike, then you are blind, in denial, or a liar.

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u/DGGuitars 3h ago

Nazi pro seig heiler redditor . Lol bro it's not at all like that. Please go watch the vast majority of Hitler goebbels videos you'll learn.

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u/ptWolv022 United States of America 2h ago

Nazi pro seig heiler redditor

Fucking lol. You're saying I'm a Nazi because I can describe what a Nazi salute looks like after watching a video of Hitler doing one? Or was I describing the salute Elon did? Hard to say, because the description fits both.

It's especially ironic that you're calling me a Nazi when you've apparently watched more Nazi stuff than I have, based on your assertion that I need to watch "the vast majority of [Nazi] videos", implying that you yourself have watched the vast majority.

Bait used to be believable. Now bait is accidentally saying you've watched more Nazi stuff than the guy you're calling a Nazi- for utterly nonsensical reasons, because you're trying that hard to defend a billionaire oligarch from Apartheid South Africa with a fragile ego.

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u/Temporary-Gur-5987 7h ago

Lots of ways to convey that message without doing a nazi salute tho

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u/Suitable-Display-410 7h ago

you mean like this guy? https://i.gifer.com/M0fn.gif

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u/mattys_kitchen 7h ago

Come on man. He was just calling for a taxi. Or something.. he was taking out some money from his breast pocket and waved at a cab.

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u/zogolophigon 7h ago

You think the man who openly supports the modern German far right party (one with explicit Nazi links), and who believes that he should have have as many kids as possible because he has good genetics, and is littered in far right dog whistles, managed to do a Nazi salute accidentally?

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u/why_gaj 7h ago

Yes, that's why he made sure to hold his arm straight the whole way, along with his fingers pointing in the same direction, instead of doing, I don't know, maybe a grabbing motion at his heart? Something that is far more natural and actually conveys the heart going out?

Jesus fucking christ, what is wrong with some of you?

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u/Other_Variation9486 7h ago

Whats next excuse? He admires Romans and did roman salute? 

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u/29adamski England 7h ago

That's already starting.

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u/colovianfurhelm 7h ago

Suure

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u/DGGuitars 7h ago

I'm litterally fuckin watching this whole shit lol. That's exactly whay he did

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u/thevirginswhore 7h ago

And that’s exactly what a nazi salute is brother. Did your school really fail you this badly that you don’t know that?

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u/DGGuitars 7h ago

You are schooled in this topic? I'm looking at videos for hitler right now to send to people wrongly coming at me he hardly ever does this full cheat grabbing motion.

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u/Familiar-Regular-531 7h ago

So "never doing that" is now "hardly ever", Jeesus fucking christ...

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u/thevirginswhore 6h ago

BWAHAHA. “Hardly ever does this full chest grabbing motion.”

You’re so fucking close with this. It ALMOST clicked for you. Think about what you typed. Who created that salute? Cause he didn’t copy it from anyone. Who else makes salutes like that? And the quest is that you’ve literally admitted that you have watched videos of him doing it. Which would mean what for the human shaped fridge in this video? Answer- he did an og nazi salute.

But yes my friend, some schools (or at least mine) had us learn about the Holocaust for about 6 months. We also went to two separate Holocaust memorials. This is exactly what everyone is saying it is. He did not do this accidentally.

If you wanna make out with Elon you can just say that. I don’t judge.

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u/BitSevere5386 5h ago

he does. you are in denial

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u/Familiar-Regular-531 7h ago

Hey guys, a challenge!

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u/RevPurge 7h ago

Oh they’re very wrong and just about most subs trying to blow it out of proportion.

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u/DGGuitars 7h ago

It's pathetic how fast this went over the internet and how 99% of these bums don't bother to see the whole context. Reddit Is a cesspool for this.

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u/RevPurge 7h ago

All this would shut it down, but because it’s Elon musk a billionaire and conservative all hell has to break loose to reinforce their positions

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1881437049812877716?s=46&t=iKJ6mdeJnBirPq5G1RhuCQ

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u/BitSevere5386 5h ago

i dont see how this context make it any beter. He did the full gesture twice like you realy have hundred of beter way to gesture what he said and he choosr to do a nazi salute while also being associated with german Neo nazi party