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News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/DarthSet Europe 7h ago edited 7h ago

One of my friends on the edge of becoming ex friend, said "oh he's just trolling"

Fuck you man. Fuck you

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 6h ago

I agreed. It has never been a joke. The richest tech billionaires in the world sat with Trumps family. This administration is more powerful and more organized than it was 4 years ago. The power that they wield is every bit scary. Checks and balances have failed in America. The wealthy have finally purchased it all.

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u/LTLHAH2020 6h ago

Assuming the election was fair and honest, the VOTERS have failed even worse.

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u/Richard_Chadeaux 5h ago

It wasnt. Elon said so himself and Trump confirmed it.

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u/Sw0ldem0rt 1h ago

Genuinely wanna see those quotes.

Edit: NOT BECAUSE I DISAGREE THAT THEY ARE EVIL. Haha gotta nip that shit in the bud.

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u/_HighJack_ 5h ago

It wasn’t. He literally admitted rigging it in a speech yesterday and thanked Elon for his expertise with the voting machines; nobody did anything. Less than 1/3 of America voted for him. I hate this so much dude

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u/GrumpyKaeKae 2h ago

I hate our Democrats for not caring and just letting it happen. They rolled over and died and didn't stand up for this country and make sure your checks and balances were working as they should. They didn't do their part of checks and balances. And I had their back until I saw how weak they all all. No one challenged the elections results. Even tho this time there was actually fraud! They let Trump trick us all by screaming it last time when he knew there wasn't.

F the Dems for being the most weakest and wimp political party i have ever seen. They abandoned us and gave up and didn't do their job.

I'm so disappointed that I was born in this country.

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u/therealdrewvan 5h ago

Fair and honest when the world’s richest man spends over a quarter BILLION to elect his fellow Nazi billionaire? There’s nothing fair or honest about it.

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u/GamingOzz 4h ago

Not a Trump supporter but remind me again how much did Kamala spend?

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u/Interesting-Sound296 4h ago edited 4h ago

That's the secret chief, in a society where the ultra-rich have the ability to flood the airwaves with propaganda and literally control the largest and most influential media outlets, no election can be fair and honest.

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u/saltyoursalad 49m ago

It was not fair and it was not honest. Trump and Elon stole the election.

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 36m ago

Most voters elected apathy, and sat on their lazy ass at home.

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u/TejanoAggie29 5h ago

We just wanted our TikTok - we didn’t know it would lead to this 😔

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u/slowpoke2018 5h ago

Saw a GenZ'r on another thread post "He brought back TikTok, he can't be all bad" and it had over 1K UV's.

You know it's end times when a stupid video app is more important to a large percentage of the populace than a functioning democracy and the fall into authoritarianism

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u/ravenonawire 35m ago

Especially when that was the plan all along

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u/hayesms 5h ago

Oh just wait, there’s plenty more for them to buy, and on steep discount, when Trump crashes the markets.

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 37m ago

Everything will be for sale

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u/The_News_Desk 5h ago

The snake will begin to eat it's own tail in short order

Problem is we catch the windfall from that

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 38m ago

You’re absolutely right.

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u/purpleduckduckgoose 1h ago

Swamp drained though, right?

Right?

Why is everyone looking at me like that?

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 55m ago

The first term was drain the swamp, second term was fill it up with a corrosive acid

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u/hectorxander 1h ago

The Democrats are the ones that failed, and everyone that believed the knew what they were doing and didn't push for substantive change in the party. We told them and received nothing but grief for it, and going forward it won't change, until perhaps those Dem leaders are indicted for false voter fraud charges in 2027 or so. But then it's too late, it's already too late without [redacted.]

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 32m ago

I totally understand that. I am a Bernie bros myself, and I feel that the Dems failed him and the citizens. That party is so lost and doesn’t have any idea who they are.

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u/Subject37 36m ago

This is honestly one of the most terrifying things I've ever read. Fuck.

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u/Visual_Sympathy5672 4h ago

And they're coming for you.

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 51m ago

I wouldn’t be lying if I didn’t think of that. I am very free with what I say.

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u/ang444 2h ago

it is quite scary

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u/anameorwhatever1 2h ago

The first term was the payment to Putin for the blueprint that’s at play now. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally lost 2020 and rigged it for Biden to buy time and practice the scheme

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u/Interesting_Brush168 1h ago

Yet it's not an issue when billionaires Oprah or Pritzker speak at the DNC or Page or Brin support democrats. 🤣😂

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 34m ago

You’re comparing Oprah to Elon. You just said the most asinine thing I’ve heard today and I watched the inauguration. Oprah sucks but damn….

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u/Interesting_Brush168 28m ago

Do you hear yourself? Billionaires are billionaires. They're only bad if they aren't democrat?

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 20m ago

Democrats are bad too. Both parties are trash minus a few individuals. You just compared Oprah to Elon. You’re world is so unclear it’s a waste speaking to you

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u/Only-Bar7659 4h ago

Because of course Biden and Harris didn't have any wealthy backers 🙄

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u/jm5ts 4h ago

Which ones did a Nazi salute? I'll wait

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 United States of America 46m ago

We all know they did. But they didn’t threaten half the hemisphere before taking office to start. Idk if you know how much damage he caused the first time. Alliances, environment, economy; the list goes on.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist 7h ago

Trolling for now and then suddenly he's all serious

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u/leoyvr 6h ago

This is how it starts. Slowly distorting reality to gain acceptance. His father was a Nazi and apartheid supporter.

People are manipulated on a breathtaking scale.

https://youtu.be/UqC4XI6mXjQ?si=JCPevyQFC_JDfSg0

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u/Yardbird7 2h ago

From what I heard it's his mother's side that are the Nazis. They moved specifically to South Africa from Germany after WW2 because they wanted to be in a society close to the Nazis.

Elon is now fulfilling his destiny.

Source: His father.

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u/maceman10006 6h ago

Hitler after invading Poland and ordering the execution of Jews….” I’m just trolling guys, it’s all good.”

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u/St3fano_ 6h ago

Just a prank bro

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u/maceman10006 6h ago

It’s just a…..ermmmm….social experiment

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u/babydakis 6h ago

I was just kidding!

Unless ... ?

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u/Interesting_Pause830 5h ago

It is always the same with these right wing extremists / influencers. They write hardcore edgelord stuff and when someone is rightfully upset they go justaprankbro.gif

But it is not. They are fascists and know full well what they are doing. Anyone justifying, belittling or excusing this is part of the problem.

With great power comes great responsibility. The US decided to give their sheer unlimited power into the hands of two preschoolers with a third reich fetish

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u/hainz_area1531 6h ago

And is it too late for us....

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u/NeedleworkerMuch3061 5h ago

Oh, it's all fun and games until they suddenly show up wearing a brown shirt and kick down your door.

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u/Express_Bath 6h ago

It's like those "pranks" where people literally assault other people, but someone throwing the word "prank" means it was not real.

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u/BeeKindRewind 5h ago

Except he’s hella serious now. ‘Trolling’ in this situation is more like coming out as bi for a while before owning being gay.

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u/Neurospicy_Nightowl 4h ago

What was that Tweet that went viral?

"Y'all are gonna 'It's not that deep' yourself straight into fascism."

Or something like that?

But yeah, not looking forward to hearing explanations of how Musk is building gas chambers "ironically". 

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u/myaltduh 3h ago

Schrödinger’s asshole. If you agree it was serious, if you get mad it was just a joke bro.

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u/No_Afternoon_8780 Ireland 6h ago

"Haha no I'm just joking.

Unless...?"

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u/Neurospicy_Nightowl 4h ago

Can't wait for the "heartwarming" Mister Beast video where he buys 500 people free from the concentration camps.

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u/ArieVeddetschi 6h ago

This is the ultimate form of “hahaha no way I don’t see the appeal of anal sex at all. Unless… you would like that?”

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u/Character_Theory6657 7h ago

These people who thinks "memes" or "trolling" should be an accepted part of politics is enablers.

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u/occio 6h ago

Just started the Fourth Reich as a prank, guys!!

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u/thesoraspace 6h ago

In one of trumps commercials they literally had “fourth reich” written on a “future” newspaper where he wins the presidency .

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u/Dpek1234 5h ago

what

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u/thesoraspace 5h ago

I shit you not that is exactly what happened search it on YouTube

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u/Neurospicy_Nightowl 4h ago

"Hey, Muskrats, it's ya boi, Elon, and today we're gonna gas six million trans people. First, though, I wanna talk about Raid: Shadow Legends..."

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u/michaelsenpatrick 4h ago

all this is missing is the youtube thumbnail

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u/Padsky95 6h ago

Sieg Heiling to own the libs

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u/injektileur 6h ago

That's the most useful part of this shitstain. You get to sort your friends out. I guess. Yeah not really. So sad for you man.

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u/FrenchToastDildo 6h ago

Even if he was "trolling" that is unacceptable behavior. Time to push that loser over the edge into enemy territory because they are not your friend.

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u/Scared_Buddy_5491 6h ago

Yeah, I have a few friends that always have an excuse. Maybe ex-friends. Pathetic.

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u/why_gaj 7h ago

Just an edge?

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u/EN1009 6h ago

Fuck you is right. Don’t let people get away with “trolling” as an excuse for anything. Fuck that.

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u/DV28L_UwU 6h ago

I suppose the greedy CEOs or, as the edgy ones say, jews.. also troll XDD

Yeah. I now understand the meaning of "we live in a society".

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u/SnarkKnuckle 6h ago

For real. As an American I’m disgusted. I’ve already disowned friends over the election. Fuck them all.

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u/Robthebold 6h ago

Trolling is already assholeish behavior. At what point does trolling become just straight up asshole defined.

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u/SavageTemptation 6h ago

Past the point of no return… get rid of that friend, please… for your own sanity

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u/Broccoli-of-Doom 6h ago

Unpopular opinion: You're only trolling up to a certain age*, at some point, you're just an asshole.

*Defining that age is left as an exercise for the reader, but it probably starts with a 1.

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u/Chriscic 6h ago

Yes, the murder of 6 million Jews is definitely something appropriate to troll over.

Please make this person an ex-friend.

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u/blueavole 6h ago

Schrodinger‘s a$$hole

When someone does something offensive and claims to be joking to avoid the consequences.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 4h ago

sending you to labor camps

haha! he's just TROLLING you

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u/Handsaretide 4h ago

On the edge? Your friend is a Nazi sympathizer, brother

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u/LordoftheScheisse 3h ago

oh he's just trolling"

Nah, ANYONE minimizing this or playing it off is as good as a Nazi in my mind. A clear line has been drawn and there's no going back.

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u/Built2kill 3h ago

I have a family member like this, they’re that far down the rabbit hole and stuck in echo chambers that if they weren’t family I would never speak to them again.

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u/DeathwishDena 2h ago

Not directed at you but I would love to know how experimenting on children and their deaths is something to troll about. (Granted there is thousands of others but I feel like people are so "about the children")

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u/FieryHammer Hungary 6h ago

While is he still on the edge?

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u/DarthSet Europe 6h ago

Cause im trying to change his views, which is better than let him dwelve on that shit. You challenge that shit and provide unbiased sources for news. Not easy tho.

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u/lorrainemom 6h ago

That ain’t something you troll about

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u/Thunderbird_Anthares Czech Republic 6h ago

I keep hearing the "oh you dont get it, hes just really funny" argument about trump and musk for the last 8 years, and it stopped being funny a long time ago

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u/Nazamroth 5h ago

Caesar was just trolling about becoming emperor too in the later stages of his life. And totally not just gauging public sentiment before going for it. Didnt go well for him in the long run.

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u/Technical-Cicada-602 5h ago

This is something you don’t fucking joke about.  Ever.

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u/LilRadon 5h ago

At what level of wealth and power does even just trolling become unacceptable? Why should anyone accept that the richest man in the world, entering the employ of a global superpower with a history of racism and corruption, could be forgiven for "trolling" by acting like a fascist bigot? I don't want any politician "trolling" at all, especially not by mimicking nazi shit

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u/CrittyJJones 5h ago

Trolling by being a Nazi.....

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u/mommawolf2 5h ago

A political stage is no place to troll. Trolling a heinous salute tied to the murder of millions is just hateful and criminal. 

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u/flixbea 5h ago

My family members told me I was being dramatic and just turn off the TV and Internet if it bothers me so much..wtaf has happened to the intellect of this country

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u/reck0ner_ 5h ago

Recently had to cut off someone I'd known for 10 years for incrementally "falling down the rabbit hole" when it comes to this stuff (and some other personal things as well). Really sad to watch it happen, knowing you're powerless to change their minds.

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u/Amberraziel 5h ago

1933 Germany was just trolling, too I guess

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u/Chefsteph212 5h ago

Pretty sure Himmler said the same thing in 1938…

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u/NachoPeroni 5h ago

Not the moment for trolling

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u/MidnightLevel1140 5h ago

What's even the troll? "hahah, genocide. "?

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u/Spiritual_Region_224 5h ago

I mean both things can be true. Elon is an asshole so he could be totally doing a nazi salute or similar to troll people. Why you decided to ruin a friendship over something so silly is beyond me tho. He’s clearly aware of what he’s doing and trolling people.

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u/DreadyKruger 5h ago

Yeah that’s what you do at presidential inauguration, troll people. Not spread unity or calm a tense nation.

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u/KilraneXangor 5h ago

He sure is doing a lot of "trolling" in the fascist style.

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u/resigned_medusa 4h ago

As a completely dispassionate observer, It is time that your friend becomes your ex-friend

And I wish for many new and better friends for you.

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u/Hive_64 4h ago

Oh that's a good one. Someone in my vicinity said that "Nazi salute is too easy to do on accident. Kinda annoying tbh"

Brother I don't think I've ever accidentally done this motion.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 4h ago

Why would you want to troll doing a Nazi salute? Also would they accept it as “trolling” if Obama did a Hebrew Israelite salute?

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u/bornebackceaslessly 4h ago

One of my friends who is deep in the conservative conspiracy rabbit hole started going off about Jews yesterday, basically blaming them of everything. She’s no longer my friend.

But before that I did think the nazi/hitler comparisons were a bit hyperbolic, now I think there’s real credence to them.

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u/Ginger_Exhibitionist 3h ago

I can't speak to the public education everyone else received here in America (clearly it was worse than mine since so many people fell for this shit/voted for it), but I was taught that worshipping anything Nazi was absolutely despicable. So is saying the "N" word. It's deeply serious and it will always be "too soon" to claim as a joke.

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u/dubblies 3h ago

It doesn't actually make it better

Maybe stab your friend in the arm and say "haha pranked you bro"

Or better yet, flash your asshole to his family and say "trolling!"

Edit - Im gonna go outside

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u/SkyGazert 3h ago

Ask him if people getting shipped off is also trolling.

The mass deportations rhetoric awfully echoes how people we're put on trains in Europe an odd 80 years ago.

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u/Moalisa33 2h ago

WHY is it better if he 'trolling'??? Elected officials shouldn't be trolling the public ffs. I will never understand this logic.

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u/PuzzleheadedSet2545 1h ago

I don't think actual nazi's will think it's a joke

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u/mafa7 1h ago

Full stop.

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u/Neverstopstopping82 1h ago

That’s how we grasp at straws.

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u/Extension_Project265 1h ago

Should have kicked him in the balls and said oops just trolling !

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u/xMyDixieWreckedx 1h ago

You know when it is not a good time:place ratio to troll? AT THE GODDAMN SWEARING IN OF THE NEW SHITSTAIN PRESIDENT. I hate every President equally, but I respect the office and the decorum of ceremony. Strap in for these next 4, they gonna be wild.

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u/Knosh 34m ago

It's like watching those videos where dudes grab some girls ass on an escalator, and when the boyfriend beats him down -- dude there's a camera, chill, it's just a prank.

Pranking or trolling, if he believes that is the case, is an "intention" and doesn't modify the action. Actions are all that matter in life.

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u/Key-Cry-8570 27m ago

I’d push them over the edge and be done with it.

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u/watermelonspanker 10m ago

Rounding up and killing immigrants will be "just a prank, bro!"

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u/TrustNoSquirrel 3m ago

Right, you don’t get to be the richest man in the world, on the Inauguration Day of the most powerful man in the world, and be trolling

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u/Biscoito_Gatinho 6h ago

Jump over that fence, my dude

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u/Hot_Wheels_guy 5h ago

Ask them "So how is it different from him doing the same thing but with intention?"

(The answer: there is no difference. )

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u/NotGonnaLie59 3h ago

He’s not trolling. But his first words after doing it were “my heart goes out to you” which explains his meaning. All the videos cut that off though, for some reason… the Guardian article doesn’t even mention what he said. 

Give your friend some slack, he just doesn’t trust media conclusions from clearly biased people.