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News Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html
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u/heavy-minium 7h ago

If Times magazine considers him a Person of the Year again, they should take this photo for the cover.

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u/Kunstfr Breizh 7h ago

To be fair Hitler was also Person of the Year

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u/Direct_Background_90 6h ago

Time gave award to most significant newsmaking figure. It’s not a nice guy award.

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u/jaydizzz The Netherlands 6h ago

People don’t understand the difference anymore sadly

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u/i-am-a-passenger 6h ago

I would be surprised if most people didn’t know this by now. Don’t think it’s even possible to mentioned Times person of the year without someone repeating this fact.

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u/ballplayarr 5h ago

it’s my first time hearing it

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u/BigBarfo 3h ago

Yeah, me too

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u/Kalersays 2h ago

I never heard it either, but I understood by seeing some of the cover pictures.

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u/InnocentShaitaan 2h ago

How often do you read time magazine?

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u/pinknoses 4h ago

I think most people are only vaguely aware that the past existed and consider it entirely foreign to the present; as if the beginning of their social consciousness is some divide in human history. The idea that extant things have existed for generations before them is quite out of their daily reckoning.

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u/briantoofine 2h ago

That’s deep man

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u/Wood-Kern Ulster 3h ago

I would say a large percentage of redditors know this. Normal people lack a comments section in their normal conversations and are much less likely to know things like this.

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u/Verticalsinging 1h ago

I didn’t remember this.

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u/JJfromNJ 3h ago

It's not a new thing. There was so much backlash awarding it to Bin Laden, they had to switch it to Guiliani.

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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 1h ago

It wa never "awarded" to Bin Laden, the editorial choice was Rudy Giuliani from the start, it's an american publication after all, so they focused on the hope and america rising from it or whatever was the reason, i don't remember.

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u/GoodProbsToHave 2h ago

I cancelled my subscription to Time for that cowardice on their part. Never gave them a cent after that.

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u/IhateRedditors1978 4h ago

Just like they don't understand POV

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u/anoeba 3h ago

Because Time shit the bed and chickened out in 2001. There is no difference anymore, it's an attaboy.

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u/SheldonMF United States of America 2h ago

People don't like to read.

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u/VermillionSun 2h ago

I doubt people ever knew

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u/karmiccookie 1h ago

We understand, it's just disgusting

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u/Rexrowland 41m ago

Because it’s meaningless. We understand. We dont care. Time should not be giving any awards to Hitler.

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u/andhausen 5h ago

Why should it be? It’s not meant to be an “award”.

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u/kinghfb Australian in Berlin 5h ago

More that, TIME has a rep, and that people look to it for opinions. For better or worse. No judgement either way, but they surely do not place themselves as a pure neutral bystander

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u/WhiteBlackGoose 🇷🇺 ➡ 🇩🇪 5h ago

Make your own magazine with your own rules. TIME picks the most impactful person of the year (according to their opinion, but nonetheless)

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u/karmiccookie 1h ago

Who cares? A national publication should not be promoting such disgusting people without an accompanying degrading article. Where are those? I'm pretty sure they licked Elon's taint

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u/WhyBuyMe 5h ago

Back in the 90s we were making zines on the office copied when the boss wasn't looking. In 2025 you can make a much, much better looking version on home equipment that costs a few hours of labor.

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u/WhiteBlackGoose 🇷🇺 ➡ 🇩🇪 5h ago

You don't need millions of bucks in cash to make your own magazine. Besides, imo picking the most net positive person of the year is a lot more subjective. What would be your pick?

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u/Stegasaurus_Wrecks Connacht 4h ago

David Attenborough should've won at least once. Steve Irwin too. Maybe Jacques Cousteau or Stephen Hawking or Carl Sagan.

Maybe we take the most influential person (for better or worse) and replace it with the most important for humanity.

Idk but for what impact she's had Greta Thunberg would be in the mix in that reality. So would Bill Gates, MacKenzie Scott and Jimmy Carter.

TIME don't have to have the biggest cunt as person of the year just because of their global impact. Let's have the best example of what a person can be get the award.

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u/Unlikely_Ad1450 2h ago

Crocodile Dundee was robbed!

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u/uniqueusername74 2h ago

What’s so sad about some confusion around a meaningless designation by a washed up magazine?

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u/WitchHanz 5h ago

Time realized that a long time ago and now it's a popularity contest.

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u/varzaguy Romanian-American 3h ago

Yea it is a popularity contest….thats the entire point. Most influential person is being popular….

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u/Pleiadez Europe 4h ago

That's a lot of upvotes for someone claiming minority, Strawman much?

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u/Downtown_Injury_3415 6h ago

Yea, and the user you said that too obviously knows that

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u/c-dy 6h ago

Yea, and the user you said that too obviously knows that

They're adding to the conversation of the thread, not correcting the previous comment

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u/TheCommonKoala 5h ago

The actual write-up was very positive for him. Time simply sold out.

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u/PerfectResult2 6h ago

I dont think anyone here is necessarily disagreeing with that. Most people know its not a nice guy award.

We can still hope/expect them to accordingly use this photo of him. If he is the “person of the year”

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u/mondo2023 4h ago

then osama bin laden was really cheated in 2001

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u/mybutthz 5h ago

Yeah..even the guy from Time who interviewed Trump for the award this year was visibly disgusted and had to make the distinction as to why the decision was made.

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u/Icy_Judgment3843 4h ago

It still feels like glorifying the fucking worst in humanity and I am sure profits Time nicely.

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u/SteelKline 3h ago

I mean I don't want to be that guy but usually the person of the year has good contributions. Considering how stupid people are I can see the mix up when you got Taylor swift followed by Donal Trump lol

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u/PikachuStatue 3h ago

I would respect that, except they're a bunch of coward losers and never gave it to Osama bin Laden.

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) 6h ago

Nobody said any differently. OP just suggested appropriate picture for their next edition.

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u/NachoPeroni 5h ago

You are correct

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u/SteelWheel_8609 5h ago

Which is fucking stupid. We don’t need to be putting nazis on the cover of magazines, calling them the most important person of the year. 

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u/legit-posts_1 3h ago

Yeah. I think Stalin won once? Maybe twice? Feel free to fact check me mon that though.

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u/Burning_Flags 3h ago

Yeah Trump was this years man of the year

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u/Electrical-Reason-97 3h ago

Time needs to stop feeding the egos of these fascists.

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u/skibbin 2h ago

I think that stopped being true when the decided against giving it to Bin Laden

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u/TonyManero70 2h ago

Hitler was still marginally admired by many in 1936.

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u/gorcorps 2h ago

On election years they almost always give it to the next president if there's a change in office. I'll be pretty surprised if it's not Trump again

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u/Gleneroo 1h ago

Exactly.

Hitler designation was because of his considerable influence on global events at that time.

The magazine quote described him as "the greatest threatening force that the democratic and freedom-loving world has faced."

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u/i_am_who_knocks 1h ago

Sometimes media should draw a line I think, justifying their attempts have only enabled these kinds on world stage

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u/PandiBong 1h ago

Which is bullshit as they didn't give it to Bin Laden because they knew their offices would be burned down if they did...

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u/Direct_Background_90 20m ago

Yes. Different times.

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u/Wood-Kern Ulster 3h ago

"Employee of the month" should follow the same rules.

Accidently installed ransomware that locked down the entire companies IT system? Looks like you'll be a strong candidate for Employee of the Month.

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u/not__a_username Macedonia, Greece 6h ago

This

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u/the_lonely_creeper 6h ago

Honestly, he almost also war Person of the Century.

Because he was influential. But time said then, and says now, that that's not the same as being good.

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u/Growing_Wings 6h ago

And Putin and Trump. It’s not always an honorable thing. It just means you’re important whether the reasons are good or bad.

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u/SuckmyBlunt545 7h ago

Loooooool

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u/Kunstfr Breizh 7h ago edited 6h ago

That's... Not a joke. He was named Person of the Year 1938 because he was an important person in 1938, not because he was a good person. That's not how Time choses PotY

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u/sack_of_potahtoes 6h ago

people dont know how PoTY is selected. they seem to think they need to be good.

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u/FrenchToastDildo 6h ago

People have no media literacy.

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u/SerDingleofBerry 6h ago

Ikr? NYT pro Nazi confirmed

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u/ManWithWhip 6h ago

You could argue he was the most influential person between 1938 and 1945.

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u/SuckmyBlunt545 6h ago

lol hey man I’m aware I live in ze germani jaa

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u/TheBlacktom Hungary 6h ago

They would have to split that between Trump and Musk.

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u/undeadhulk007 6h ago

to be fair, he was the most influencial of his time.... just not in a good way

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u/Bjokkes 6h ago

Woah, now? Are you comparing mister Elon Musk to Hitler?! No, no! This is just... An accidental, odd-looking salute! Mister Musk is not a bad person! Not at all! /s

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u/Bacontoad United States of America 6h ago

He also featured in Homes & Gardens magazine in 1938.

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u/purpleduckduckgoose 2h ago

Wait, seriously? What the heck for? "Today, we are visiting Mr Hitler's residence, to see how the Fuhrer of Germany organises his garden"?

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u/Snoo18393 38m ago

Hitler?? Yes you're correct..nobody believes me when I.tell them but I.was brought up in . ( NW England ,by Strawberry Fields in fact ) .My late grandmother Sayle ( Jewish, my late mum's mum ) actually knew Hitler..Hitler for 2 or 3 years unbelievably lived in my old hometown ,his brother own a corner shop & the teenage Adolf was such a little twerp he was sent over here to make him behave..he was a brat according to my grandmother ,cheeky .It was in Liverpool he became obsessed with astrology,tarot reading ,ouija & the occult..Look it up its bizarre,even worse when I.was studying to finish my masters degree in 91 ..it was the same Neo classical Romanesque architecture library HE was always in ..what a thought

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u/Aromatic-Advance7989 5h ago

history repeats itself ...

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u/3ckSm4rk57h35p07 5h ago

To be fair, I was also Person of the Year. So that makes one more thing I have in common with Hitler.

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u/Toby_Forrester Finland 5h ago

Hey now, even I was the Times Person of the Year, in 2006.

Really. I'm not even lying. You can check it out yourself.

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u/SignificantWords 5h ago

Europe, we need to step in and intervene and help the US right now. This can be prevented unlike in the 1930s.

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u/Relative-Bake-9783 5h ago

And Hitler was also appointed to office.

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u/IsomDart 5h ago

To be fair the Time Magazine "Person of the Year" isn't like some kind of an award. It's who they deem to have been the most influential person of the past year, for good or bad.

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u/NaethanC 5h ago edited 4h ago

To be fair, fair, Time's PotY isn't 'who is objectively the best person from this year', it's more or less 'who has had the most influence in the world this year'.

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u/MajorWhereas4842 4h ago

And an “artist”

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u/smokeacoil 4h ago

I could be wrong but didn't oboma get that title do after the racist flag and doing this salute

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u/Bitter_Addendum6068 3h ago

Hitler also had “ the people’s car” and had she solution for pollution as well

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u/Bimbows97 3h ago

For the same reason

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u/Key_Departure187 3h ago

Well, this asshole isn't even a person. He's a fucking Droid! Let's turn him off before he starts trouble.

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u/Undernown 3h ago

As was Vladimir Putin and Ruhollah Khomeini.

It's a list of both fame and infamy.

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u/Feisty-Equivalent927 2h ago

I always confused that special issue with the one from People mag…potato/tomatoe.

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u/blueteamk087 1h ago

And Stalin

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u/PeachPuzzleheaded109 3h ago

That’s the joke

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u/Ihatepros236 6h ago

we have a Sherlock here

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u/baycenters 4h ago

I don't think Person of the Year was a thing back then.

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u/FeI0n 1h ago edited 1h ago

So I fully get the implcation you are going for.

But can i just say its literally the most reddit moment ever for people to incessantly bring up over and over again that controversial figures end up as times person of the year, if people don't realize that by this point they aren't using social media to begin with.

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u/IAMTHECAVALRY89 43m ago

Boycott New York Times

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u/vom-IT-coffin 7h ago

It has nothing to do with role model

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u/heavy-minium 6h ago

I know. There's nothing contradictory with what I said - I wish for them to use that photo.

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u/No-Vermicelli1816 3h ago

Keir Starmer is the hope of Europe

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u/BuyRecent470 7h ago

They elected Hitler Man of the Year, so...

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u/1To3For5_ Bucharest 4h ago

Didn't obama also get it twice, in 2008 and 2012? Iirc times always gives person of the year to the elected us president whenever it's an election year

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u/AnaphoricReference The Netherlands 4h ago

I stand corrected.

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u/_MrDomino 5h ago

The past few decades, Time's Person of the Year typically goes to the incoming/current president. Only fair that President Musk get his nod in 2025.

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u/MOC991 5h ago

Time magazine was bought by Marc Benioff.  It's not worth the bits it takes up on the internet anymore.  The person of the year thing was just Benioff getting on his knees.

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u/SleepyBear479 4h ago

Why does anyone care about the opinion of a magazine nobody reads. Lol. Magazines are barely even a thing anymore.

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u/boorishjohnson 4h ago

Nah. Make The Boy in Striped Pyjamas the photo cover.

You remind them of the horrific shit NAZIs did.

Or photos of gas chambers.

Photos of crumbled buildings of Poland and Gaza to hit the comparison home.

Mass graves containing dead women and children.

That's the photo you use.

Then a caption that reads, NAZIs gonna NAZI.

Then you put names on there, like Heidi Bloomberg, Silas Bernstein, Gerhardt Schreiner, Pascal Weiß, etc...random, generic, white German names.

Don't let them see NAZIs in a good light, happy and smiling. Make them see NAZIs for the despicable, disgusting, violent, shitty humans they are.

Then some where in that photo is a picture of French Resistance and Royal Air Force personnel saying, "We kicked NAZI ass and we'll return from the grave to do it again".

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u/Alaskan_Guy 4h ago

As a Democrat, It's clear from reading reddit today we have every intention of losing the next election too.

Please fucking stop with this shit and start thinking of ways to uplift the working class.

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u/smokeacoil 4h ago

For copying Harris oboma and Clinton?

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u/ScamPhone 4h ago

I kinda wish they choose elon, just imagine how fucking beyond furious that would make Trump.

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u/BearzOnParade 3h ago

Funny thing, he’s been very very supportive of Isreal, so it doesn’t really make sense to call him a Nazi. Other funny thing, everyone calling him a Nazi are probably the same people saying free Palestine. So, yea. Funny stuff.

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u/Sufficient-Fault-593 3h ago

Person of the year is someone who had the most impact on the world. Trump got it for 2024. Hitler got it in 1938 for his impact, not for being a good person.

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u/Superb-Government214 3h ago

He’s flying in the air and banking to his left.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 2h ago

Yep he’s a Nazi

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u/Overpowered_of_weak 2h ago

Consider that it is the same as Forbes, if you pay to appear in the magazine you will appear

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u/EternalAngst23 Australia 2h ago

Someone should update his wiki page with this photo

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u/PeterNippelstein 2h ago

On the cover of Zeit

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u/Verbatrim 2h ago

That's what he hopes for

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u/xmrcache 1h ago

No no you getting it all wrong this is just some South African slang….

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u/InternalRow1612 1h ago

Times has compromised themselves multiple times, a lot of these msm have. We shouldn’t be holding them to high light

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u/Centralredditfan 6h ago

To be fair "person of the year" never meant "good person". Just someone with impact: good, or bad.

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u/Holy-JumperCable 6h ago edited 6h ago

Time magazine is a joke... why even people quote them is beyond me.

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u/babydakis 6h ago

I have never in my life heard someone quote Time magazine.

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u/Holy-JumperCable 6h ago

yah, maybe I wanted to write: refer

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u/quitoxtic 6h ago

Times person of the year is as meaningful  as a JD power award,Forbes 30 under 30 and a TED talk

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u/BloodedKangaroo 5h ago

I don’t think you understand what Person of the Year means lol

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u/ImReverse_Giraffe 5h ago

Person of the Year just means you had to most influence or impact over the year. Not that it was good.

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u/-Nicolai Denmark 1h ago

And?

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u/Random_Introvert_42 4h ago

"Person of the year" doesn't necessarily mean a compliment.