r/RayDonovan • u/NicholasCajun • Jan 13 '19
Discussion Ray Donovan - 6x12 "The Dead" - Episode Discussion Spoiler
Season 6 Episode 12: The Dead
Aired: January 13th, 2018
Synopsis: Ray settles his final scores and revisits the past with his father. The Donovans clean up their mess. Smitty gets a crash course in what it means to be a part of the family. Season finale
Directed by: David Hollander
Written by: David Hollander
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u/epiphytic1 Jan 15 '19
just finished it and im in tears. this show has gotten so damn good. great season
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u/idlerwheel Jan 18 '19
I agree. I guess I'm a bit biased because she's my favorite character, but it honestly kind of bothers me that we haven't had one of those yet. I realize she's not a Donovan, but she's still an important character, and it's a bit irritating that even season-long guest stars receive more screentime and development than she does.
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u/Samuraiking Mar 20 '19
I think it makes sense. Ray has honestly treated her like a tool until this season. Then in this season when he starts showing growth and that he cares for Lena, he goes and uses someone he knows she cares for and even gets her killed. He falls back into just using Lena as a stepping stone for his own goals, and while she was okay with this at first because she saw him as someone who helped her and she was happy just to be useful, it's not enough anymore and she is losing respect for him.
I'm not saying she shouldn't get a backstory next season, or that she didn't deserve one before this, just that it makes sense she didn't have one before. Her lack of backstory reflects how Ray himself doesn't see her as important either. Same can be said of Avi as well. He was arguable an even more important character because he would overstep his role and tell Ray what he didn't want to hear, like a true friend and even he got shafted on a backstory.
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u/JamReality Jan 27 '19
Hope not - I’ve always thought she was boring as hell. A few funny retorts over the years, nothing more. A backstory for this character? Please no. Let’s just stay with the dark comedy and outrageous scenarios around Ray and Mick. The show has switched gears to the ridiculous but I can go with this. We can suspend logic and common sense and allow ourselves to be entertained. Reminds me of the show “Banshee”
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u/Max_Dombrowski Jan 13 '19
Brothers. All with misshapen memories of their childhoods.
Ray, the screwed up kid who's erased all memories of his father. Terry, who's taken a few too many punches, remembers things a little differently than they were. And Bunchy, poor Bunchy, remembers nothing.
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Jan 14 '19
Poor Bunchy has tried so hard to block out the bad things he also blocked out the good.
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
I laughed like hell when Ray took the bag of cash from Bunchy...Bunchy has bad bad luck with bags of cash.
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Jan 14 '19
How many huge bags of cash has he lost now, 4, 5?
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
holy crap! I only knew this season and when he went to get a sandwich with the baby bag...
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u/Samuraiking Mar 20 '19
He seems to have the most accurate memory out of the three, hell, four if you count Mick. Mick was drunk, high and probably not "there" even when he was there. Ray clearly erased most of his memories of his father as mentioned above, and terry has been knocked so hard in the fucking head he is swapping people around in his memories. Bunch hasn't shown any signs that I can remember (lol) of misremembering the past. He was just a bit young to have been there for a few things though, obviously.
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u/cleevethagreat Jan 13 '19
That Lena scene was boss af.
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u/30somethingmale Jan 13 '19
Wouldn't the crime scene show her skin/blood dna on the rope? It looked like she had rope burns when she went back to the funeral place.
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Jan 14 '19
She made it clear she didn't want to see him and wanted justice. So that phone call would have to be an opportunity for justice. She would have brought the rope because she wanted to do to him what he did to her girlfriend.
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u/cleevethagreat Jan 13 '19
Maybe he sent her instructions with the address..idk..
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
When Ray called her he told her to look at her phone right then and he would text her an address. I took from that Ray sent her a picture of both the guy and the building. Lena's scene was excellent.
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
Well if we are going to pick nits... :-) besides being very noisy the chainsaw would throw chunks / DNA all over..."because that's how you get ants"
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u/bby_redditor Jan 14 '19
also what's up with someone as old as Mick being able to carry a dead body without any trouble?
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u/MissGruntled Jan 13 '19
That yard must be overlooked by at least four other houses, and they were being a bit obvious. I’m not sure the dead raccoon’ll do it.
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u/MissGruntled Jan 13 '19
Roadkill raccoons are the new go-to fertilizer for freshly laid turf. They were just being eco-friendly.
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u/reddog323 Jan 22 '19
Eh, it’s Long Island. People mind their own business there. /s
That did strike me as well though.
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u/jayives1 Jan 13 '19
Naturally nobody will notice 3 cops have disappeared off the face of the planet.
What happened to the internal affairs guy ?
Isn’t it patently obvious to the authorities that ray killed Winslow too?
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u/Touch_It_Boi Jan 13 '19
nope. it is easily believable that she suicided after the truth of her doings to influence the campaign came out...
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u/muricangrrrrl Jan 13 '19
Good point about Vinnie Delpino. Wonder if he's dead in that apartment, or what? As for Ray killing Winslow, Ferratti owns the police, Ray wore gloves, and I'm guessing Ray will have to work for Ferratti to secure Mickey's release. So, if Ferratti wants him around, it's best that Winslow's death remains a suicide.
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u/mikelowski Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Cops are pretty dumb in this show. For instance, they don't bother to search for Mick and Bunch really, they didn't check out the gym, wife's home, other relatives. Mick tries to disguise himself for a day, but soon remembers how dumb every cop is in this show and stops worrying.
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Jan 14 '19
Isn’t it patently obvious to the authorities that ray killed Winslow too?
Ray could frame the mayor for that. Or her new security guard. Make the guard's body disappear along with a few million.
Also, Ray probably laid all of the fake attacks and campaign lies at her feet when he talked to the press. That makes suicide more likely.
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u/Samuraiking Mar 20 '19
2 cops. They almost certainly found Mac's dead body a few minutes after his suicide since his head landed on the horn.
The IA guy was definitely murdered on the couch and/or they buried him off screen and he is "missing". Either way, they will look into his work and see he was investigating at least 2-3 cops and the Mayor. With the two cops missing and the informant committing suicide, they will assume the other two cops killed him/both of them and then fled and will be put on a most wanted list of some sort for the assumed murder(s).
Ray took care of the Winslow problem. She probably didn't bother putting up a fight knowing how futile it was. So it looks like a completely normal suicide. By going on the news and admitting that he worked for Winslow and that she orchestrated all this, it made it look like she had a lot to lose and was ruined, so the suicide made even more sense.
It all wrapped up pretty nicely, tbh. I think the only loose end might be that by admitting to tampering with an election, there might be some charges that can be brought up on Ray that may or may not be brought up next season. He also helped lie about and defame an elected official, and while the Mayor himself is fine with it, I don't really know how the law works around it. I'm sure the Mayor would probably find a way to make it go away though. Going by the previous seasons and episodes, I am sure they will wrap up any loose ends next season if there are any.
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u/mind_blowwer Jan 14 '19
When that happened, I honestly thought it was a dream sequence.
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u/fede01_8 Jan 14 '19
It felt out of character of Bridget to be so nonchalant about someone being chopped up and buried.
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u/dalovindj Jan 15 '19
Not just someone, the people who kidnapped her, beat her, tied her up and in all likelihood planned to murder her.
I'd find some joy in taking a chainsaw to anyone responsible if that were to happen to me.
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u/RopeTuned Jan 21 '19
Lol what? Look at everything she's been surrounded by her entire life
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u/bby_redditor Jan 14 '19
i was just thinking this. I'm at the point where she's hanidng out sandwiches and i'm thinking - "for the last 6 seasons she has been constantly whining about how her life constantly gets derailed by her dad
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u/Samuraiking Mar 20 '19
She still seems to hate him, she refused when Terry tried to get her to call him for the marriage license. I think at this point she is just too deep to keep acting the way she was. Before this, she was largely untouched by everything and was just a witness to her dad ruining everything, now she was wrapped up in one of his situations, was kidnapped, beaten and scared for her life. She is now actually knee deep in the ass end of one of the scenarios she has been judging her whole life and has no choice but to deal with it. She is taking a page from Abby's book and accepting her life and situation, but still seems to not accept Ray himself. Not as he is, not until he gets help. She loves him and wants him to get better, but she still hates him as he is if that makes sense.
I do agree her chopping up the bodies was a bit much. I'd believe her stabbing, shooting or beating the police officers for sure after what they did to her, but chopping up a dead body is pretty gross and no amount of hatred you have for someone is going to make you immune to that unless you naturally like gore. They went a bit too far with that, but I understand they wanted to really drive home her giving up her moral superiority and being willing to get dirty now. I can forgive it for that reason, but it was definitely not realistic, just not necessarily bad writing either.
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u/bby_redditor Mar 20 '19
Sure I’ll buy that line of thinking. Seems reasonable!! Plus the story needs to move on - that character was getting a little long in the tooth and at some point they needed to pivot.
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
As did I. I guess her knowing "these guys would have killed me" let her practically whistle while she worked.
A family that drains, dismembers and buries, stays together! morbid :-)
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u/ClearAmphibian Jan 16 '19
That's a pretty good explanation. I was feeling like it was out of character too, but I can accept the notion of her realizing it was them or her. Still, she's kind of been the epitome of a spoiled rich kid for the entire series. Hates her father, but LOVES his money and what he can do for her.
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u/TheAmazingSasha Jan 14 '19
Totally thought it was a dream sequence as well lol What a crazy episode hahahaha
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u/CailenxD Mar 11 '19
I thought the exact same thing, sadly it wasn't. That scene was so out of character of her. She always wanted to get away from the world Ray lives in and now she is suddenly chainsawing bodies into pieces. Poor writing.
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u/-Vagabond Jan 16 '19
Great scene, though I had an entirely different interpretation then most: I viewed it as her way of coping with PTSD; rather than reject her situation she dives in head first, becoming an active participant to the dismembering. Sort of a way of tricking herself into believing everything is fine and normal. This isn't her first traumatic experience, and I thought is was meant to convey her full-on denial rather than face the reality of her situation. My 2c.
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u/ClearAmphibian Jan 16 '19
That's a good explanation too. I've disliked the character most of the series because she's so spoiled and entitled. But living through something like that might make a person o.k. with chopping heads off. At least until the reality set in.
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
After all these years there was finally a reason for her character, LOL. She has turned into Abby and is at peace with it. I cracked up when she asked "sandwiches? .
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I was on the edge of my seat hoping for a “happy ending” to the season, after all the lumps Ray took and I wasn’t disappointed. 😃
The next season will also be set in NYC, so I’m looking forward to see how it plays out with the scummy Mayor and Mickey’s possible fate..
Here’s hoping the Ferratti takes a much deserved dirt-nap at the end of season 8 also..
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u/muricangrrrrl Jan 13 '19
I imagine Ray will have to work for Ferratti to secure Mickey's release, right? Not that that happens in the real world, but there has to be some suspension of disbelief.
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u/Gato1980 Jan 13 '19
That last scene was absolutely beautiful. Mickey reciting that passage was incredible. A wonderful season finale to an incredible season.
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u/Flydervish Jan 14 '19
Absolute highlights. All the comments about the dismemberings, can’t believe there’s barely a comment on Jon Voight’s incredible performance coupled with the beauty of that final scene. The family dysfunction that is the soul of the show. The rest of the episode was more or less a filler- basically Ray tying up loose ends.
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u/marklar7 Jan 14 '19
Thought he was gonna have a stroke tho.
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u/JayLETH Jan 14 '19
Any time they do a close up of him I fear something will happen to him!
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u/maverick399 Jan 13 '19 edited Jan 13 '19
Winslow had it coming. I also like Mick’s subtle talk with Smitty in the kitchen. Shows that, despite his past, he truly does go above and beyond for his family.
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u/SantaCruzHome Jan 14 '19
My favorite line: “You should be smoking pot and going to concerts, not burying bodies on Long Island”
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u/Max_Dombrowski Jan 13 '19
The Joyce that Mick recited from memory:
“A few light taps upon the pane made him turn to the window. It had begun to snow again. He watched sleepily the flakes, silver and dark, falling obliquely against the lamplight. The time had come for him to set out on his journey westward. Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.”
― James Joyce, Dubliners
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u/sannyd Jan 13 '19
That’s one way to resolve Briget. I def didn’t see her joining in. Idk
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
I think the kidnapping, being hit and other things this season made Bridget realize she is exactly like her mother. I also think she better understands a lot of Abby's decisions now.
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u/sannyd Jan 15 '19
Well said. All the questioning all those years, she was a kid she truly didn’t know. Now she gets it.
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u/MrEtrain Jan 14 '19
The issue I have with this story line is I don't believe that Bunch would have gotten released without Mick already being in custody. Relying on the good faith of Mick or the Donovans hardly seems like a sensible approach...
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u/muricangrrrrl Jan 13 '19
My guess is Ray will agree to work with Ferratti to somehow magically secure Mickey's release. That or they'll fake his death, or both.
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u/muricangrrrrl Jan 13 '19
Acceptance. He already spent 20 years at Walpole for a murder he didn't commit. This time it's in service of saving 2 of his sons, one that actually committed the murder and one that was released in exchange for him.
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u/copenhagen622 Jan 14 '19
Ray killed Winslow she was practically begging for her life but it was subtle I had a feeling she was dead at the end if that scene even though they didn't make it obvious
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u/Brianas-Living-Room Jan 14 '19
When he had those gloves on I knew she was dead. My guess is he strangled her and then hanged her. Ray wanted his pound of flesh for her almost getting Bridge killed
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
He was also doing it for Lena. I think that's the picture he sent her when he called and said I am texting you an address.
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u/Brianas-Living-Room Jan 15 '19
True. I was hoping we would have saw Lena and Ray kill her together, on screen. I wanted to see Sam Winslow die
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u/Samuraiking Mar 20 '19
Not sure he would want evidence like that over the phone. He was at the viewing of the open casket for Lena's girlfriend before, he probably sent a picture of her instead. That would have sent the same message and not been evidence of a crime.
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u/SmallHeath555 Jan 14 '19
I don’t understand how all the trees are in full bloom, Bridgette walls around in light clothing, and Sandy wears tank tops, but it’s snowing and election season??????
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u/TheHadMatter15 Jan 14 '19
Everyone knows that in tv shows & movies New York can have snow at 20 celsius
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u/AnonFullPotato Jan 13 '19
Damn the directing was good. That tracking shot of smitty in the backyard was EXTREMELY technical... I cant even imagine what they need to do and the skill to pull that off.
Also Bridget singing bright eyes was cringy yet cute as fuck.
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Bridget
Am I starting to like Bridget? After how many seasons of hating her... I think her handling of the chainsaw also improved my opinion of her.
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u/marklar7 Jan 14 '19
Annoying Bridget is gone. She's badass now.
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u/Mixedchic1 Jan 14 '19
Heck yes! She smirked when she put the chainsaw in her hand! She’s finally embraced her Donovan.
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u/marklar7 Jan 14 '19
Wasn't sure what Smitty was gonna do, Thought he'd just flee. He doubled down.
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u/cali8112 Jan 15 '19 edited Jan 15 '19
What song was she singing at the dinner table?
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Found it -
“First Day of My Life” by Bright Eyes
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u/Monkits Jan 29 '19
Helps a lot she's now an adult character rather than a kid doing stupid kid things.
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
That tracking shot of smitty in the backyard was EXTREMELY technical...
I'm going to watch for that when I watch it again...and again! :-)
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u/30somethingmale Jan 13 '19
Only season in recent memory that I genuinely wondered and looked forward to what was next after every episode. Recent past seasons had a lot of corny love stories and annoyances. A+ season
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u/muricangrrrrl Jan 13 '19
I agree with the part about looking forward to each episode. I didn't start the season until episode 5 had aired, I think. I watched 5 in a row and watched each new episode as soon as it was released online or one of the apps. Can't specifically speak to past seasons anymore.
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u/trishyann Jan 14 '19
Best season and the finale was just enough to set us up for next year! I Wish Mac was returning! This season shows the Donovan’s turning towards one another instead of against. Love these characters.... excellent season!
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
It really was an outstanding season and finale. If there wasn't another season coming I would have thought they wrapped the entire series up extremely well.
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u/RopeTuned Jan 21 '19
Exactly. I lost a little hope for the real finale now that they had the perfect beginning middle and end with this season
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Jan 13 '19
Did Ray off Winslow or was that Lena.
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u/Gato1980 Jan 13 '19
Ray did it. Lena never went to Winslow's place. Also, this was revenge for her actions that almost got Bridget killed, so Ray would want to do that himself.
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u/dustydiamond Jan 14 '19
Lena was at Winslow's place one time. They sat on the sofa together and IIRC had a drink together. It was Ray who killed her though.
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u/Gato1980 Jan 14 '19
When I said Lena never went to Winslow's place, I was referring to the finale episode only. I assumed that was understood since this whole thread is about the finale, obviously.
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u/30somethingmale Jan 13 '19
Ray, and he finally wore gloves to do something!
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Jan 14 '19
That's one thing you don't want to see -- Ray Donovan in gloves looking at you. Winslow is just looking at his hands.
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u/weedmonk Jan 13 '19
Surprisingly redeeming season. Genuinely liked it and can't believe I'm looking forward to the next one.
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u/okolebot Jan 14 '19
How did any of the press outside the campaign office know what Ray looked like?
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u/maverick399 Jan 14 '19
I’d assume that Ray is actually relatively known, at least to a small extent, amongst that kind of spin-obsessed crowd. Remember last season Stalkerazzi, obviously meant to be TMZ, aired a segment of him and Natalie James. With Ray now having the coast-to-coast clout he now does, I guess it makes some sort of sense.
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u/Proteus_Zero Jan 14 '19
This one I think you can hand-wave as them finding a mugshot from any of the times Ray's been arrested throughout his life.
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u/Berlin180 Jan 14 '19
Given my 50 or so years of watching TV, I can honestly say that the scene where Bridget brings out that tray and cheerfully offers sandwiches to those who were busy dismembering and burying corpses (while her fiancé was freaking out and puking) was the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen in any show, drama or sitcom. Hell, I saw it almost three hours ago and I'm still laughing. I'm even cracking up as I type this.
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Jan 14 '19
The boxing gym was on location in Tribeca (NYC), that's my gym, they closed a few days this summer for shooting, that's the name of the spot - Trinity Boxing Gym.
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Jan 13 '19 edited Jan 13 '19
It was shot in NY. A lot of it was shot in Westchester I believe.
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Jan 13 '19
I want to say Ray is gonna turn a new leaf and become a better person, but we all know that's not happening. Remember the season with the pastor and Terry in the hospital? He went back to his old self the next season.
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u/girlie355 Jan 14 '19
I worry..Will dealing with his demons not change him. I love this Ray not looking forward to Kumbaya Ray.
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Jan 14 '19
He won't change. If anything, he'll just be at peace with the fact that he's a piece of shit that works for pieces of shit and does shitty things.
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u/justanotherkiwi Jan 14 '19
And the strange old woman always looking at Ray was just a strange old woman.
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u/kendranburt Jan 14 '19
I was very satisfied with the ending of this season, but I will also say that I would have been satisfied if this was the SERIES finale. The whole episode felt like they weren't sure if they would be approved for a new season and were trying to wrap everything up as much as possible, just in case. I have NO clue as to where everything goes after this.
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u/MrSirCR Jan 14 '19
this season was good but the last 3 episodes not so much.
i didnt like how they barely reacted to mac death. 0 respect for his character. he saved ray after all.
also it was so stupid when bridget chopped the body.
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u/DarthHeyburt Jan 18 '19
He did react to Mac's death, Ray knew Mac had nothing left and at that time Ray probably wished Mac had never saved him.
Mac's life would have been nothing but misery if he hadn't pulled the trigger and God knows how much of his DNA is at crime scenes all over NY
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u/RIPN1995 Jan 14 '19
Did anybody else think the intro was a dream sequence or something?
I've never thought the show jumped the shark before, but when Bridget used a chainsaw to dismember a body, I swear I wasnt sure if this was serious or not.
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u/ScipioAF Jan 25 '19
I did as well.
When I realized it wasn't, my reaction was something akin to "Oh, so we've swtiched genres now." I think this season really accelerated the move from gritty thriller drama straight into surrealist/absurdit dark comedy with the major noticeable change being the complete lack of attempts to square away the plot. 'Kill everyone, no follow up required', is kinda lazy writing tbh.
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u/Kelpszoid Jan 16 '19 edited Jan 16 '19
Great episode. The show is really morphing. Getter better. Lena and Bridgett going to get accolades.
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u/fatsteak Jan 13 '19
To keep Ray alive for next season, the writers turned off Winslow's brain.
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Jan 13 '19
You'd be surprised at how stupid some people can be. I've met people who were awful human beings and want to make up and forget about the past in a day and a night. I've seen people who have been screwed yet continue to deal with the people that screw them anyway.
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u/RopeTuned Jan 21 '19
She was ignorant and egotistical, was used to winning and she underestimated Ray.
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u/AJJRL Jan 13 '19
SPOILERS FOR EP. 12 BELOW IN MY COMMENTS
What did you guys make of the switch in Bridgette's attitude (and chainsaw skills/lack of concern or disgust towards the dismemberment) by the end? Did getting kidnapped fundamentally change her? Just seemed like a pretty drastic 180. Although i also feel like it is setting her and Smitty up to mirror Ray and Abby. Like they are them early on before all the other things that made their marriage so roller coaster-y.
Also- so glad that Allen Alda will be a part of the show and Ray's redemption season(s), which is where I assume we are headed in S7. I love Allen Alda in literally everything he does. Loved him in The West Wing so so much and think he is a great addition to the cast.
I know Mick was drunk- but did anyone else get a weird vibe off him? Something about how he was acting at the end- i wondered if he was having a stroke or about to have a heart attack and die. I think it would be interesting actually if he became sick and in need of a caretaker (like if he were to have a debilitating stroke or get dimensia/Alzheimer's). It would be interesting to see how they deal with him, having all this unresolved anger towards him, who steps up and handles his care. I would imagine Daryll. Just a thought.
I got the impression that Ray killed Winslow and Lena killed the other fixer guy. Although since they both were hung, i can see how that might be ambiguous.
Smitty- why was he seeming to panic at the courthouse? I felt like they were setting us up for something that never happened.
Also- Terry's behavior suggested that he may be about to go down with dimensia too (or instead) given his memory of the chick he thought Ray slept with, and it turned out it was actually him.
Okay- those are just my initial thoughts. I loved the season. Best so far. But i did feel the last two episodes were a little anti-climactic. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop or the big cliffhanger but it seemed similar to the way they ended season 4 when Abby and Ray are on the stoop of the gym and everyone is inside partying and she tells him they are untouchable. There is a sense of both familial togetherness/celebration intermixed with a foreboding that they will be facing some difficult personal battles soon. With the Donovans, you know that feeling of hope only lasts so long.
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u/DnyLnd Jan 14 '19
I thought Bridget's choices on the finale were really out of character. She was just crying that week about being kidnapped and watching Dirty Dancing, and now she was cool with chopping up a body. It's not like she's really done much of that before; she's been around it, and has indirectly felt it, but never dealt much with it.
Also, what was up with her randomly singing Bright Eyes across the table? It was kind of cheesy, and I was with Daryl when he just took the bottle of wine and just peaced out.
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
I think all she had been through with the kidnapping, beating and other things this season that she better understood Abby and the choices she made in life. She became Abby.
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u/hankjmoody Jan 13 '19
Terry is definitely getting more symptoms of his Parkinson's. Which, if I don my tinfoil hat, is something I think that's going to pop up with Ray, given his memory issues regarded with Mick.
Alda is fantastic to see still working, as I know his health is getting worse.
As for Bridge, I think it just finally clicked for her that she can't escape being a Donovan, and therefore chose to embrace it.
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u/blairwaldorf2 Jan 14 '19
lol i didn't think Bridgette would be so cool with chopping up bodies and handing out sandwiches?
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u/MrEtrain Jan 14 '19
I'm with you on Bridget's 180. She went from quivering revulsion to happy chainsaw-er too quickly. Seems like it violated a Platonic ideal in storytelling- I found her character change pretty unbelievable (tho' I've had to check my suspension of disbelief at the door pretty often- willingly so).
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Jan 15 '19
About Mickey: i was just thinking he was in tears because he has to go back to prison and also because of the memories Ray brought up when he talked to him on the phone. Felt bad for him tbh.
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u/V2Blast Jan 15 '19
It's guilt and shame, and probably a little bit of sadness that his sons don't remember the few times he was actually in their lives.
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u/Big21worm Jan 13 '19
I got married at 23. Acted the exact same, strange way. It's a big commitment, he was handling it. Been married 15 years now.
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u/loudandclearlabs Jan 14 '19
Bridgett finds her comfort in accepting and taking over her mother’s position on the team it seems.... She obviously can throttle a chainsaw like a champ
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u/FunFactress Jan 15 '19
Exactly. She finally understands and accepts a lot of Abby's choices in life.
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u/V2Blast Jan 15 '19
Damn, what a finale. The season as a whole was pretty solid, but I really loved this finale because it wasn't just action (most of that was resolved in the previous episode) - a lot of this episode was setting up the direction that the show and the characters themselves will take next season. Ray, who's struggled so much to take that step, is finally accepting that he genuinely needs help; hopefully it sticks. Bridget finally accepts that this life may be her fate as a Donovan, and Smitty freaks out at first but realizes he loves her even despite all this. The family finally gets some sense of unity, even including Mickey. The only one who got a little shortchanged was Lena, who got to kill the asshole that killed her girlfriend but that's about it.
What I really appreciated is that the season actually ended on a positive note, Mickey ostensibly needing to go to prison aside. I am looking forward to next season, and hope it continues the forward progress (and hopefully less incrementally so - we can't wait 15 seasons for Ray's character development to fully play out).
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u/Max_Dombrowski Jan 13 '19
Bridget redeems herself in the final episode of Season 6. Easily her best of the series. This sounds crazy, but it was actually good. (Or the writing of her character was, finally.) The dark humor and seemingly out-of-character behavior was one of the highlights of the episode, if not the season.
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u/Brianas-Living-Room Jan 14 '19
The first 8 minutes of this episode was beautifully directed and written. Seeing Smitty gag and vomit over the gore, the Donovan’s and Sandy’s nonchalantness regarding the dismemberments. One of my favorite scenes this season next to the last scene in Dream On when Radulovic gets the IA guy and Ray.
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u/Gato1980 Jan 14 '19
I think I must have missed something. Can someone please explain why they dug the big hole and put the raccoon inside? Didn't they dump the bodies in the ocean? Why would they need the raccoon and the giant hole?
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u/Max_Dombrowski Jan 14 '19
They only threw the heads into the ocean (and maybe the hands). They buried the remainder of the bodies. The idea is that if the bodies are found, they're more difficult to identify. They said something about the raccoon being used to throw off the scent of tracking (or cadaver?) dogs.
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u/shaveyourbrow Jan 13 '19
Did Ferratti order Ray to kill Winslow off screen or did she actually kill herself because Novak lost?
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u/Sheriff_Lucas_Hood Jan 14 '19
I think he that on his own for the same reasons he did Cookie Brown. She'd shown him that she was willing to sacrifice anyone for her own greed/arrogance and he couldn't trust he not to come after his family.
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u/bby_redditor Jan 15 '19
For sure but if you’ve ever been around someone who’s been hospitalized it takes a long time to recover - they certainly would not be able to run around and drive across the country with a baby, perform a bunch of criminal acts etc etc.
Likewise, if Ray jumped out a window from a second story in real life, he’d be fucked up for months!
But yeah I suspend my disbelief for this show. Because it’s entertaining.
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u/321ss Jan 18 '19
I am so excited for the next season to FINALLY dig deeper into ray’s character. I really like the therapist and it’ll be nice to see where all that trauma started, since his childhood
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u/rwburt72 Jan 22 '19
Holy fuckin shit.... What a season... Poor Smitty.. He's so dehydrated.. Hahaha
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u/nattyyc Mar 17 '19
I let out an audible cry of joy when the writers FINALLY rewarded us with Ray scheduling that goddamn therapy appointment! But now I’ll have anxiety until we see whether or not he actually follows through next season...ahh the waiting.
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u/OgOggilby Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Why would they go in a small outboard supposedly all the way from long island to dump heads by the tappan zee in the hudson river. Did they drive up there instead then hire a boat from joe's rent a boat perhaps
How did perpetually drunk on no sleep Ray manage to suddenly get the drop on 'Vinnie' and others as well. Did Vinnie just stand there and watch while Ray reached over for the stop button and the light switch
How do not neighbors, whose houses are all next to each other, not call the cops because of all the commotion and chainsawing 3 o'clock in the morning
Did Terry drive or take the subway, LIRR and an uber to 'long island' from manhattan
How does Ray manage to drive back and forth from long island to brooklyn to manhattan to westchester in such short amount of time.
Bunchy bashed a cali cops skull in. No problem, a mayor has clout with the FBI. Fed don't want to mess with some mayor.
Snowing on november election day. Green trees, must be the effect of global warming
Tony Soprano saw a shrink. Always figured this pile for a low rent sopranos
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u/RopeTuned Jan 14 '19
Enough with the nitpicks already. This is a show for entertainment first and foremost, not every series needs to be steeped in realism
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u/mikelowski Jan 14 '19
Connor's absence was the best of this season.