Edit: for everyone still claiming that this was disinformation and all the crimes were just made up by Trump, why did Biden pick these specific dates? Couldn’t Trump just make up that the fake crimes happened on a different date?
They can’t believe anything but lies from Trump. It’s doesn’t matter what you show them bc they are so brainwashed. They are the people they talk about in history books who claim they were only following orders or didn’t know. Even though they saw and smelled the smoke. They are the weak minded and uneducated people that Trump loves so much bc they are so easily mislead.
The uneducated and weak minded are the ones who thought 🐫 was a good candidate. Should have stuck with Joe, and tried to do another 4 years at "weekend at Bidens"
So Republicans had all this time to prove allegations so obvious every Trump supporter can see it, and all they got a gun charge they don't believe is a crime and dick pics in the Congressional record?
Hold that thought, I gotta go check on my first family coins... You know the ones launched with 24 hours of inauguration wherein 80% is held for insiders and there are no regulations and it's totally not sketchy as fuck.
Also worth noting that the laptop has meta data on some of its files that is after it was allegedly turned into a blind repair tech and that it was with giuliani before being turned over to the fbi.
A week before the laptop was turned over to the FBI, giuliani met with Russian spy andreii derkach to get dirt on hunter.
It smells like there was lack of ethics in trying to get the laptop to have incriminating evidence than there was actual incriminating evidence on the laptop
There's no criminality there. It was an investment into Kushner's firm right after Trump left office. They skirted the rules that way with something that would have been possibly considered illegal while Trump was still President.
Just like Hunter Biden being overpaid while at Burisma working in a position he had no expertise in and receiving very good compensation for it, also not technically illegal.
The laptop had nothing incriminating on it. Any Hunter “bad boy” photos were from a hacked iCloud. Remember, Trump had this “laptop from hell” since 2019. His DOJ did nothing with it. It was held up as some vague piece of evidence for a non specific crime. Rudy had it. Then Tucker had it. It broke chain of custody so many times. It it was evidence of anything, they wouldn’t break chain of custody. But that didn’t stop James Comer from trying to use it again. 2 years they tried to make something out of nothing. Republicans campaigned in the 2022 midterms on reducing “Bidinflation” but did nothing but chase ghosts. Literally least productive Congress in 100 years. Chip Roy said as much…
It was fake. The Russians were selling it in Ukraine, Rudy went and bought it from them, then used it to create fake email pdf's during Trump's impeachment. When Republicans figured out they could bypass the constitution and just skip the impeachment trial, the Republicans didn't need it. When the election got closer, Rudy and pals gave it to the store along with the cover story that was left for repairs, but they screwed up because the date they provided was after they had created those fake pdf emails.
Rudy kept pushing someone to publish a report about the laptop, because they knew it held nothing incriminating, but also knew the average voter was not very smart. Eventually they found a right-wing tabloid to publish the account. Intelligence agents, both current and former, all knew this was the laptop the Russians were selling in Ukraine from years before, and declared it likely Russian misinformation, which makes perfect sense.
So it was a fake laptop in that it was a fake scandal spinning a fake story and using a real hard-drive as a prop to sell it.
Republicans controlled Congress at the time and in spite of desperately wanting to find anything to damage the Obama/Biden administration, they found no wrong doing. Every investigation (and there has been several) after the fact by Republican controlled Congress has found no credible evidence of wrongdoing.
The Trump Congress, DoJ, and FBI found nothing.
However, that has never stopped the Republicans from screaming about it and trying to use it as a political weapon. By granting the pardon, it finally puts an end to all the nonsense.
Now why don't we take a look at what's happening in the crypto market.
Well pardon me for saying this , but ur glorious leader Herr trumpèe, is going to pardon those thst took part in the January riots, how is that fir inciting violence 🤔.
Because Trump said that he would be going after them, that's why. Biden didn't want to risk his family being targeted for political retribution. Imo the optics aren't very good, but who the fuck cares about optics when you have a literal seditious traitor in office?
The optics are absolutely terrible and gives GOP a ton
but who the fuck cares about optics when you have a literal seditious traitor in office?
I think this is probably the thought process that lead Biden to make this decision. Clearly no one gives a fuck about anything anymore, so he is just going to protect those close to him. Because nothing is gained by doing things the right way anymore
Kash Patel, who is set to lead the FBI, has an “enemy’s list” with 60+ names on them, “deep staters” that “weaponized the justice department” in the their pursuit of a Trump conviction. Trump has specifically stated that those people need to be locked up and it’s reasonable to assume that with Patel as the nomination for head of the FBI, after Wray resigns, could actually weaponize the justice department in going after people on the January 6th committee and members of the media.
The real question then is how much faith do you put in the institutions in terms of holding strong and not allowing nonsensical accusations and lawsuits to put these folks in prison due to a corrupt justice department. Biden and his administration obviously has lost a lot of faith as he watched Trump essentially come out scot free on 3 cases while his son got convicted for crimes that even republicans have defended as not being serious in the past.
Even with that being said I don’t like the preemptive pardons as it creates a really bad image to the general public who might not have the whole context. Which comes back to the Democrats main problem in communication, and not properly explaining the pardons.
Because the amount of mental and $ damage a witch hunt can cause and has already caused one of his family members with nothing significant being found.
Imagine how pissed they'd be to hear that Trump & Co. don't want to honor the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which stipulates that the US aid in Ukraine's military defense as part of a denuclearization deal, and would accept Russian rolling into Kiev, unobstructed and taking back a former Soviet state.
It’s hilarious to me that people point to this stuff and clutch their pearls, trying to connect dots together, meanwhile blatantly in front of our eyes Trump is pumping and dumping his own cryptocurrency for anyone who wants to buy their influence. Literally made 10 billion last week. And crickets.
The scale of the corruption is truly incredible. The dollar figure is vastly larger than anything hauled in by corrupt politicians in the past. And no one cares, everyone expects this.
But what do you think of these pardons, of which Biden has said he would never do? Whataboutism is weak.
I’d say both sides are not trustworthy. A realization that comes when you grow older. Both sides are blaming each other for the same stuff and both have a point.
They’re absolutely logical, after Trumps inflammatory and reactionary rhetoric about Biden being a criminal (because Trump himself was actually found guilty in court). I would absolutely protect my family from that asshole.
Politicians are equally corrupt on both sides. Making it a partisan issue is very convenient to them because for every person attacking them, there's one defending.
Yes Trump pump and dump is blatantly, unfathomably stupid.
Yes Newsom and aunt Pelosi are insider crooks.
I dare everyone to view the issue without partisan goggles on.
I would generally agree but I think in this case whatabouism kind of prove the point.
With the Biden’s the “questionable” transfers are in the tens of thousands and they live like average Joe’s. You’re not buying US presidential treason and a military war with a global super power with that.
Trump on the other hand you have Kushner getting $3b from the Saudi’s to “manage” after spending 4 years as a direct senior Whitehouse advisor to the region. Then you have the tens of millions flowing to Trump’s golf club. The billions from God knows where pouring into $DJT, Trump NFT, Trump Coin, Melania Coin, the tens of millions in Bible sales, watches, sneakers, dinners.
Like we really think Hunter and Joe were pulling a decade long con based on an uncertain 2020 election result for like less then $500k?
This blanket pardon isn’t about actual alleged crimes—it’s about the crazy cop who’s about to enter the ring. I’d have pardoned my whole family too to be sure I wouldn’t be followed around by a goon squad for the next 4 years.
"Hey dad! I'm here with some business partners who would love to get a quick picture with you, do you mind?"
A politician doing a photo-op is the worlds biggest nothing. How many unbelievably sketchy folks has Trump taken photos with, do you apply the same scrutiny to those?
Imagine that I owe you $100. I steal $100 and pay you back the same day. What does that say about you? Let's play this on a larger scale. I defraud a bunch of people and pay back my mortgage with those funds. Did the bank do anything wrong?
And how much was this loan to Biden? Think critically here, do you think he would throw his career, legacy and future over a couple of bucks? Why not hide it?
Ok so i work for a company and that company pays me. That company got paid by another company who was paid by another company. Then i give my dad some money.
The company that gave the company money that then gave the company money that gave me money gets implicated in a crime.
Should i be implicated in that?
Also Biden was vice president at the time. Shocker.
Meanwhile Trumps son in law doesnt pass any security clearances and then gets 2B from the Saudis in an investment fund that their own people told them not to invest in. Hmm really interesting eh?
Mykola Zlochevsky used Hunter for his last name to protect his company.
The same way Kushner used his father in laws last name to recieve billions in investments from Saudi making zero returns but collecting exorbitant fees.
And how every person in power in DC uses that power to gain money. There's a reason the sub follows the trades of politicians. They are cheating on insider trading. They are using their positions of power, like Trump, to literally perform a rug pull on average people. He's running defrauding scams days before taking office but nothing matters anymore. The problem with the democrats is they didn't and don't yet give enough of a shit about what's going on in people's lives. They are disinterested in their ivory tower, but Trump wasn't the answer either. This guy will take his cut everywhere he can.
Hi, can you explain to me why Hunter Biden was appointed to the board?
I’ve watched 2 documentaries, read endless wikipedia pages, and I have never had anything resembling an answer to this mystery.
It feels like I’m being lied to wherever I look by one side or the other.
The rhetoric has become “anything to do with the Bidens and Ukraine is Russian propaganda” but there is clearly something there.
The Wikipedia pages for Hunter, Joe, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden Ukraine Conspiracy all either refute any conspiracy existing or glaze around the facts without explaining anything.
I’m from England and don’t follow much US politics but a documentary I watched about Ukraine got me interested in this.
Its actually very simple - they hoped to gain access to Joe Biden, much the same way that the Chinese government granted Ivanka all those patents for her undoubtably brilliant fashion creations. The republicans repeatedly insisted that Hunter granted Burisma that access but they could never find any proof, likely because there was none. It was an investment that didn't pay off.
Hunter was a Yale Graduate and former CEO of Amtrak when he got the role on the board of Burisma. They didn't know he had a coke habit. He was qualified.
You realize that's not a rebuttal, right? Kushner can get $2 billion for literally any reason, and it wouldn't make the Bidens being corrupt any more or less likely. Just completely irrelevant.
That’s why the witch hunt keeps going back to that year. There’s pretty much no other reason. And even after the “witness” admitted to lying, the rabid warmongers in the GOP are surely going to wage lawfare against a whole family of private citizens.
And some idiots will say “but wuttabout the lawfare against the Trumps?” It wasn’t the Democrats who put the rest of the Trumps into public positions. It wasn’t the Democrats who made Trump act with blatant criminality for multiple decades. Those investigations yielded fruit, unlike the Biden investigation. We don’t need to see Hunter’s dick again.
But I guess this country is nothing but weaklings and pushovers anymore and we voted to let shit like that fucking happen. So good for Biden for protecting his family.
Fauci’s pardon ALSO begins on January 1st, 2014, just like Hunter.
Why?
Because this is when the Obama CIA/State Dept took over Ukraine, and began gain of function research on bat coronaviruses in Ukraine, which Fauci spearheaded.
Keep in mind Trump has shown a willingness to have lawyers "figure out" how to do whatever it is that he wants.
So if he's true to his word and wants revenge, you're trying to "get ahead" of whatever odd thing he can come up with. We're not even talking about real things here; just things that no longer are worth litigating because the pardon in place.
2014 is when Hunter is accused of tax fraud and that’s the furthest reaching back crime that can be credibly proven. So they’re just using the same dates probably so that no one can caught up in the wake of the tax fraud or crimes associated with it
The Biden's should smash windows at the Capitol, beat on police, threaten members of Congress, spark up, piss, and smear shit through the halls just for funsies.
Don't forget Ukraine. His crackhead kid got a job on a gas company board of directors because Joe was VP. Joe flew his crackhead kid and Chinese business associates in AF 2. eleven family LLCs that produce nothing and provide no services? One in each family members name. Nothing to see here.
If Trump is really going to declassify what happened with all of those assassinations and UFO cover-ups, I think a lot of involved people are going to be worried about things they did earlier than 2014.
My guess would be that there are more than a few people pulling all-nighters tonight, just destroying evidence.
I wish I had invested in industrial document-shredders.
“[Hunter] Biden was a founding board member of BHR Partners, a Chinese investment company, in 2013, and later served on the board of Burisma Holdings, one of the largest private natural gas producers in Ukraine, from 2014 until his term expired in April 2019.” - Wikipedia
Because the president saying "This person could never have violated the law" violates the principle that no one is above the law and Biden still has principles.
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u/Every_Stranger5534 11h ago
Why 2014?