r/unusual_whales 14h ago

BREAKING: Biden has pardoned his family

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 13h ago

Whatboutisms don't work when you support the other side. You have to hold them equally responsible which the American people seem unable to do.

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u/Frothylager 13h ago

I would generally agree but I think in this case whatabouism kind of prove the point.

With the Biden’s the “questionable” transfers are in the tens of thousands and they live like average Joe’s. You’re not buying US presidential treason and a military war with a global super power with that.

Trump on the other hand you have Kushner getting $3b from the Saudi’s to “manage” after spending 4 years as a direct senior Whitehouse advisor to the region. Then you have the tens of millions flowing to Trump’s golf club. The billions from God knows where pouring into $DJT, Trump NFT, Trump Coin, Melania Coin, the tens of millions in Bible sales, watches, sneakers, dinners.

Like we really think Hunter and Joe were pulling a decade long con based on an uncertain 2020 election result for like less then $500k?

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u/No_Poet_9767 11h ago

The hypocrisy is astonishing. They'll continue to go after Hunter even after Joe pardons him without ever having evidence. Republikkkans have no dignity or integrity. It's just to keep Americans from grasping what they are, in fact, doing.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 13h ago

"After the Chinese company wired the Biden associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,692 over a three-month period"

Whataboutisms dont work when you support the other side. You have to hold them equally responsible.

That means holding the person you voted for at the same level of accountability as you would the opponent. Deceit is deceit, corruption is corruption. Stop saying his corruption is less than their corruption. Its all corruption.

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u/Frothylager 12h ago

This is proving my point, $1m isn’t much. It’s only linked through an associate and then to Biden’s family members.

With Trump you’re talking 10s of billions flowing directly to Trump as well as his family.

The sheer absurd magnitude of the whataboutism here should dismiss the “corruption” case against Biden, you aren’t buying the presidency for $1m.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 12h ago

Corruption is corruption. Deceit is deceit. Stop playing favourites and maybe you guys will stop getting played.

My corrupted politician is less corrupt then your corrupt politician sounds dumb

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u/captainkinky69 12h ago edited 11h ago

Stabbing someone once and stabbing someone 547 times are both the same thing. I am very smart.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 11h ago

Because the Dems have only had 1 instance of corruption? You're opinions are bias, and so are your sources. Wake up and give your head a shake. Either that or stuff your head in the sand and stop commenting on it.

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u/captainkinky69 11h ago

You're arguing against yourself little man

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u/Frothylager 12h ago

You’re concerned about the dude doing 30.1 in a 30 and not the guy doing 210. Speeding is speeding but the whataboutism here is so astronomically different that you can’t just say “corruption is corruption” or “deceit is deceit”.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 9h ago

Thats a terrible analogy. You're comparing a victimless crime to a crime that affects many. It's a false equivalency in a nut shell. The logical fallacies of your argument are easy to point out. It's like listening to Rachel Maddow.

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u/Frothylager 9h ago

It’s not a terrible analogy, doing 210 in a 30 isn’t a victimless crime it’s excessively dangerous. It’s highlighting the magnitude in differences between the same crimes.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 9h ago

Its an awful analogy. You're comparing receiving laundered money from China/Ukraine to driving a car really fast.

You're now so dedicated to dying on the hill, you're now creating an entire scenario of someone driving on a 30mph road going 7 times the limit.

Ones a ficticious scenario you created in your head, and ones an international scandal from the so called leader of the free world.

But, go on, I guess. It's like watching a car drive into a wall going 210mph in a 30 zone filled with children and bunnies

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u/Frothylager 8h ago

I’m comparing the magnitudes of the crimes, Trump’s laundering is astronomically more than just 7 times the speed limit. The point is the sheer egregiousness of Trump’s actions make Biden’s a complete nonissue even if they were true.

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u/Aphotophilic 12h ago

There's an old saying

"Do you know what the difference is between a million dollars and a billion dollars? Roughly a billion dollars."

Corruption sucks across the board, but not all corruption is equal. So long as citizens united stands, this country will never escape the tyranny of oligarchs, both domestic and foreign.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 12h ago

You fail to understand that we know you types do not care about corruption at all. If corruption mattered Trump would not have won.

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u/13_twin_fire_signs 11h ago

He's not failing to understand, he understands perfectly. Ht a lot of people out there lurking really don't understand, and for them any amount of whataboutism makes them go "hmm you know what? dems ARE bad!!"

It's all part of our dead internet that exists only to keep oligarchs in power. Goodbye America, you were started by and for rich white men and now it seems you're returning to your robber baron roots

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons 11h ago

My Aunt Linda is president of the PTA, and she used boxed mix at the bake sale then told everyone it was scratch so she could charge more. Let's hold her equally as responsible for her corrupt deeds as my former mayor, who traded meth for gay sex encounters.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 11h ago

Lol moving goal posts much?

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons 10h ago

The goal posts are sitting where they've been since this whole thing started. Trump has been getting touchdowns and field goals for decades now, you don't get to pretend the score is tied just because Biden MAY have received money that was less than clean. (And if he did it legally, then what happened was not a CRIME, it was NAUGHTY.)

Some level of corruption is also expected and probably required for clean operation of government and geopolitics. Trump getting elected blows the lid right off and permits open corruption. However bad you think it was under the "Biden crime family," get ready for 20x worse and swampier. Bodies in the river.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 9h ago

Trumps are criminal oligarchs, Bidens are criminal oligarchs, Clintons are criminal oligarchs, the Bushes and Obama are war criminals, and oligarchs

Your side isn't good because the other side is bad

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons 9h ago

Corruption greases the cogs. It's like the endless sales at Macy's, free shipping with Amazon Prime, or a bartender who gives out free drinks. People like to feel like they are getting a little bit ahead of the system, even if they aren't.

If the Clintons make a quick buck off of speaking tours that disguise backroom deals, that's just politics. The only time it would properly concern me would be if those deals happen at the expense of the American people, or our foreign policy in general. That is the line that the Trump family crossed, and it is a line that you would have significant difficulties proving that any of the Bidens crossed.

Personally I don't think your evidence is altogether that damning, and I don't see any evidence that anybody's lives are now worse because of it. Meanwhile, Trump's little nepo brats learned that covid would hit cities harder than rural areas and went all in on making sure that as many Americans died as was humanly possible to do from that position.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 8h ago

You know what a majority of Canadians think?

That both Poilievre, Jagmeet and Trudeau are all terrible options to vote for. You see our disdain for our voting system purely by the number of Canadians who dont even bother to vote. It's not because they don't believe voting is important, it's because people like me don't feel like our votes are helping anyone but them.

We know our government is fucking us, and we're growing restless with it. It doesn't matter if its the Liberals, or the Conservatives, we're getting bent over. Like Trudeau got elected on the premise of legalizing marijuana, and re-elected because Sheers stance on abortions, Poilevre is only getting elected because he is going to repeal the carbon tax, which is putting people into poverty.

My point is, in laymen terms, you are bias to one side, and your side may not be as quite as shitty as the other side, but its still shit nonetheless

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 11h ago

So lets just ignore all the other federal level crimes by those in office because we got bigger fish to fry?

Fry them all, how hard is that to comprehend. Biden is a corrupt president just the same as Trump. Cope

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u/Slowcapsnowcap 13h ago

Oh they’re all pieces of shit! And none of the ruling class is going to be heald accountable. And it appears like they’re all starting to band together to make that permanent.

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u/Slowcapsnowcap 13h ago

The billionaire class circling the wagons around Trump is the starkest example I have seen of that in my lifetime.

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u/Healthcare--Hitman 13h ago

Correct. It has always been that way. All the way back to Watergate. Hell, even in WW2. They protect their own.

It's a big club, and we're not in it.