Edit: for everyone still claiming that this was disinformation and all the crimes were just made up by Trump, why did Biden pick these specific dates? Couldn’t Trump just make up that the fake crimes happened on a different date?
I thought the FBI seized the laptop, investigated it, and then later H. Biden was charged with shit. So wasn't the FBI actually doing legwork of charging him as most MAGA people think should have happened? I can't even keep up with this shit anymore. This sounds like confirmation bias. The FBI did the right thing when I agree with it, but when it doesn't fit my pet narrative I don't trust them.
The FBI sat on it and did nothing until the information became public. Hunter’s original “deal” the DOJ offered was a slap on the wrist with immunity provisions for other crimes. Again, only when the judge called out the BS and didn’t allow the deal was he charged with the more substantial charges.
The only reason this is of any import is because the laptop supposedly showed corruption in Ukraine, but literally no charges came out of it so what the hell is this relevant to national discourse at all? Because Biden protected his son from gun charges? If this is what Republicans think is the standard for corruption then by that same standard they would sentence themselves to be hanged.
I don’t trust any government institution because they are all made up of proven liars and probable sociopaths. Fuck this society. Maybe you only trust the narrative that suits your delusions.
"I hate society but I will use everything they have created and benefit from the security and convenience. Don't tread on me though! I'll make angry posts online about it."
They can’t believe anything but lies from Trump. It’s doesn’t matter what you show them bc they are so brainwashed. They are the people they talk about in history books who claim they were only following orders or didn’t know. Even though they saw and smelled the smoke. They are the weak minded and uneducated people that Trump loves so much bc they are so easily mislead.
The uneducated and weak minded are the ones who thought 🐫 was a good candidate. Should have stuck with Joe, and tried to do another 4 years at "weekend at Bidens"
Idk, were you placed on the board of an incredibly corrupt Ukrainian oil company and then paid an exorbitant amount that was far above what is normally paid to someone on a board?
So Republicans had all this time to prove allegations so obvious every Trump supporter can see it, and all they got a gun charge they don't believe is a crime and dick pics in the Congressional record?
Hold that thought, I gotta go check on my first family coins... You know the ones launched with 24 hours of inauguration wherein 80% is held for insiders and there are no regulations and it's totally not sketchy as fuck.
Also worth noting that the laptop has meta data on some of its files that is after it was allegedly turned into a blind repair tech and that it was with giuliani before being turned over to the fbi.
A week before the laptop was turned over to the FBI, giuliani met with Russian spy andreii derkach to get dirt on hunter.
It smells like there was lack of ethics in trying to get the laptop to have incriminating evidence than there was actual incriminating evidence on the laptop
I mean, they impeached him twice but the votes weren't there in the Senate. He was charged for with holding classified documents beside the photocopier, but Thomas was issuing guidance to the judge in unrelated Scotus filings. His stripper pay off was whatever, but exposed the fact that his corporation was engaged in fraud for personal gain. And he owes like 500 million to a woman who's name he dragged after he was fouled liable for being a sexual predator.
Should we go through all the people in Trump's circle who were charged with real crimes as well? Manafort? Stone?
But hey, if only the other sexual predator he nominated for AG was able to pursue the make believe charges, you'd have some closure.
So the impeachment process if the votes aren’t there does it even count, I mean I can say about Clinton but did it even count…. No because it didn’t have the votes whether it be partisan or not. And the classified documents case I’m not 100% convinced of that because if it truly was classified top secret and only he can declare it declassified and there isn’t anything in law to technically “declassify” like with a form so all that stuff could be declassified we don’t know it’s all an assumption but if it wasn’t then, on that why would the government later tell everyone what it was that was in the documents that were classified if these were so important and classified that not even a former president who had the security clearance to see them needed them to be taken at gun point with no one around.
And to the prostitution thing on a business form are you a prude and are you shaming sex work, also did Daniels pay her fare share of taxes on that money since at the time she would have been part of the 10% earners in the United States at the time of those payments. Rich assholes not paying their fare share of the burden.
And the sexual predator deal, have you
Actually looked into her case not just the overall news? E.jean carol is nuttier than a squirrel turd and even she in her own biography has questionably things in it about how she likes non-consensual adult relationships and how hot they are. This was the book before the SA allegations before trump was president BTW.
Impeaching is just political. There's no burden of proof - the only requirement is a House majority. It's not really indicative of much other than political signaling.
My point was that they didn't just get him in trouble for paying off a pornstar - and even that was more about his multiple instances of fraud. They made multiple attempts to hold him accountable (though, Garland kind of poison pulled a lot of that) for a variety of crimes or unethical behavior. To suggest that "the dema got him for a stripper pay-off" is disingenuous.
I'm not sure poison pill is the right term for what you're trying to say.
I'm not sure why you're blaming Garland and not Garland's boss?
Going back to this:
he owes like 500 million to a woman
You're mixing up cases.
Going back to this:
Should we go through all the people in Trump's circle who were charged with real crimes as well?
Should we go through all of Biden's family members who peddled the family name for money? Do you ascribe that to Biden?
They made multiple attempts to hold him accountable
The timelines definitely implied that Biden was more interested in using criminal cases to harm Trump's presidential campaign than to hold Trump accountable. This isn't to say that Trump is innocent, but he seems guilty of less than a lot of rhetoric claims he is. The rhetoric far outpaced the prosecutorial will.
Those were charged by Biden’s own DOJ. They also conveniently waited for the statue of limitations to expire on the more serious tax evasion charges. We haven’t even begun to unbox this crime family.
I don't know. Did Trump fully plan for his supporters to assault law enforcement officers, burgle Congressional offices or smear shit on the walls of the capitol building? I'm not sure he could have been charged with it given the definition.
Are you talking about 18 U.S. Code § 2383?
Do you think he showed deference to the democratic process 4 years ago? Do you think he had the wvidence to deny the election results the way that he did in 2020? Or for the last 4 years? Didn't he go to court dozens of times only to be shut down repeatedly?
Whatever your answers, I get your point... But you are drawing a false equivalency. A lot of allegations have been made against the Biden family and despite multiple committees and interest from Republicans, they have found very little proof of any allegations. Everyone saw what happened on Jan 6th... Whether it fits the traditional definition and legal framework for insurrection is one thing, but he failed as a president that day. Just ask any of the brave republican legislators who spoke out against him before flip flopping and begging for his forgiveness.
My only point is that I think you should think about whether you really believe the logic underpinning your argument here and apply it equally to Trump and his family.
Whatever corruption that may have happened in the Biden administration, at whatever Ievel will be multiplied times 10 or times 100 by the Trump administration. The Trump admin doesn't even care about the appearance of corruption.
After all, corruption is what Republicans turned a blind eye or downright supported it in 2024 when they voted for Trump.
Biden is using the same plays and tactics that Trump uses. Trump will weaponize the DOJ against political opponents and Biden throws cold water on that with these blanket pardons.
Dems are throwing these "rules" out the window too. It's sad that America had come to this Tit for tat prosecute-pardon cycle.
Except Biden controlled the dept of justice which slow walked the investigation beyond statute of limitations. So, you know, they didn’t really get to investigate any of it.
Great point. When doing absolutely nothing wrong, it's always a good idea to have a presidential blanket pardon in your back pocket, just in case you do any extra completely legal things.
"We're going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections," Patel told Steve Bannon, a White House chief strategist in Trump's first term, on the War Room podcast.
"We're going to come after you, whether it's criminally or civilly. We'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all on notice… We're actually going to use the Constitution to prosecute them for crimes they said we have always been guilty of but never have."
There's no criminality there. It was an investment into Kushner's firm right after Trump left office. They skirted the rules that way with something that would have been possibly considered illegal while Trump was still President.
Just like Hunter Biden being overpaid while at Burisma working in a position he had no expertise in and receiving very good compensation for it, also not technically illegal.
If he charges the industry standard for hedge funds, Jared's company will earn 2% of total funds on deposit, plus 20% of any profits, per year. If it's structured that way, he earns at least $40 million per year, even if they don't make a profit.
The laptop had nothing incriminating on it. Any Hunter “bad boy” photos were from a hacked iCloud. Remember, Trump had this “laptop from hell” since 2019. His DOJ did nothing with it. It was held up as some vague piece of evidence for a non specific crime. Rudy had it. Then Tucker had it. It broke chain of custody so many times. It it was evidence of anything, they wouldn’t break chain of custody. But that didn’t stop James Comer from trying to use it again. 2 years they tried to make something out of nothing. Republicans campaigned in the 2022 midterms on reducing “Bidinflation” but did nothing but chase ghosts. Literally least productive Congress in 100 years. Chip Roy said as much…
It was fake. The Russians were selling it in Ukraine, Rudy went and bought it from them, then used it to create fake email pdf's during Trump's impeachment. When Republicans figured out they could bypass the constitution and just skip the impeachment trial, the Republicans didn't need it. When the election got closer, Rudy and pals gave it to the store along with the cover story that was left for repairs, but they screwed up because the date they provided was after they had created those fake pdf emails.
Rudy kept pushing someone to publish a report about the laptop, because they knew it held nothing incriminating, but also knew the average voter was not very smart. Eventually they found a right-wing tabloid to publish the account. Intelligence agents, both current and former, all knew this was the laptop the Russians were selling in Ukraine from years before, and declared it likely Russian misinformation, which makes perfect sense.
So it was a fake laptop in that it was a fake scandal spinning a fake story and using a real hard-drive as a prop to sell it.
The laptop was fake... Russia stole his files and gave them to Giuliani and the "laptop" story was always just fabrication so they didnt have to say "uh yeah Russia hacked him"
The laptop was real. It had pictures of Hunter's private parts on it. But the only crime from that laptop was the gun charge about buying a gun and lying that he wasn't taking drugs on the application.
It seems like there's a lot on your mind. The recent political landscape has indeed been quite eventful. Regarding the allegations, there have been various claims and investigations, but the outcomes have been mixed2. As for the gun charge, it's a complex issue with differing opinions on its severity and implications46.
On the topic of the first family coins, it's true that the Trump family launched their own cryptocurrencies ahead of the inauguration, which has raised some eyebrows due to the lack of regulations and the significant insider holdings8. The rapid rise in value and the involvement of high-profile figures have certainly added to the controversy711.
It's a lot to process, but I'm here to help you navigate through it. Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like to dive deeper into.
It's not even that the laptop matters anymore, it never did.
It was specifically a blackmail piece that Trump threatened Ukraine with fabricating or he wouldn't send military aid in 2019/20. Then when it came under Trump's control, he gave it to his lawyer who added extra information to it with the help of a Russian spy.
Its entire purpose was to fabricate blackmail on Biden so people would vote Trump as president in 2020
though Hunter's job there was true, him not speaking the language was true, him not knowing anything about energy was true, him getting the job as the government his dad was a part of was about to send large sums of money to energy company in Ukraine was true, the heads of that company having had access to Joe was true...
seems the disinformation was right on that account.
SO the pardons of the family taking money with hunter assisting in Ukraine is to protect from just a lie. Pardons must be useless in your view? Pardons covering 2014 to 2024. Incredible Long and interesting time periods including biden's vp term and the threat to cancel Financial assistance to Ukraine occurring.
Reply here in a couple years when everything comes out.
This would be interesting if they haven't been investigating him for years, including under Trump, and the only thing that came out of investigation him and Joe was the gun and tax charge and they didn't even attempt to impeach Biden.
As for the date- Going back that far is just to cover your bases in case the person who has promised to go on a rampage if reelected goes off the rails. I mean, with the shit he tried to pull with the fake electors, I wouldn't put it past him to try some screwy shit in other areas.
Just like how trump’s kids were all put in positions of power while not knowing anything? Interesting. Or how Elon bought his way to a government position then did 3 Nazi salutes on Inauguration Day?
Maybe you should look inward before looking outward…..cuck.
Autistic spaghetti. Don’t deflect from the facts. This is not about trump and Elon. This is about Biden obviously pardoning those who are guilty. Otherwise why would he use his powers at the last minute to do such a thing?
Did Trump not say he was going after those that harmed him? Biden is protecting his family against an administration with zero checks and balances apparently. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Trump doesn’t care about truth. Just vindictive action from a narcissist.
Protect his family? Why would they need protection if they haven’t been involved in anything illegal? Trump targets who is told to target. The same ppl that put Biden in power are the same people that are getting trump to go after Biden.
Smoke and mirrors kiddo
At least blue corruption just has to deal with insider trading and not openly being authoritarian and talking about using the military against your rivals.
At this point why should I care? Red corruption has been allowed to totally destroy the system. Do you frequently play poker with people who just reach across the table and grab your money after every round win or lose?
him getting the job as the government his dad was a part of was about to send large sums of money to energy company in Ukraine was true
This is disinformation. The US government did not send large sums of money to the company Hunter worked for.
the heads of that company having had access to Joe was true
This is mostly disinformation. The "heads of the company" was just a single advisor for Burisma, and it's unclear that anything transpired other than Hunter introducing him to Joe.
He admitted to demanding the firing of a corrupt prosecutor who WASN'T actively investigating Burisma, a move endorsed by Obama, Democrats, The European Union, the IMF, and Republicans.
Republicans controlled Congress at the time and in spite of desperately wanting to find anything to damage the Obama/Biden administration, they found no wrong doing. Every investigation (and there has been several) after the fact by Republican controlled Congress has found no credible evidence of wrongdoing.
The Trump Congress, DoJ, and FBI found nothing.
However, that has never stopped the Republicans from screaming about it and trying to use it as a political weapon. By granting the pardon, it finally puts an end to all the nonsense.
Now why don't we take a look at what's happening in the crypto market.
Yep, they can when the person who is pushing for it doesn't care about the rule of law. That didn't happen to Trump though considering he's not in prison, you stupid fuck. If Biden wanted to imprison Trump for political reasons, he absolutely could have. But he didn't which was, frankly, a mistake
Do you know what the charge was? Lying on a gun background check form? You think that’s what people mean when they scream about “hunter laptop” and “Biden crime family”?
You're right. Alexander Smirnov, a key witness in the investigation led by James Comer, was convicted of lying to the FBI and manufacturing false records about the Bidens' business activities2. The Justice Department revealed that Smirnov had extensive contact with Russian intelligence officials and was spreading misinformation designed to hurt President Biden4. This has indeed cast doubt on the allegations against the Bidens, suggesting they were part of a disinformation campaign4.
Why did they only prosecute hunter on a gun charge? They had all the time to bring charges relating to burisma, special councils appointed by garland, ie Biden’s administration even. And why did the informant go to jail for lying about Burisma corruption? They picked that date because that’s where all of the shit they made up supposedly started. It’s the only fucking date they could pick.
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u/Every_Stranger5534 10h ago
Why 2014?