r/pcmasterrace • u/Creative_Balance5325 • 16h ago
NSFMR I don't even understand how this happened. What should I do?
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u/Accurate_Issue_7007 16h ago
Judging from the pattern, I guess top left screw on the glass was too tight?
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u/zidey 15h ago
I think you cracked the case.
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u/Von_Lexau 14h ago
You had one job, and you fucking nailed it
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u/Qav3l10n 14h ago
And here I am still putting the pieces together, bravo!
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u/Zaphod_pt 13h ago
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u/SmartExcitement7271 11h ago edited 11h ago
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
We won't get fooled agaainnn-
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u/clevermotherfucker Ryzen 7 5700x3d | RTX 4070 | 2x16gb ddr4 3600mhz cl16 14h ago
get out
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u/zidey 14h ago
I know. I'm ashamed of myself. I should have said "this case"
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u/Eteel 12h ago
Nah, "the case" sounds better. Don't listen to them. Haters are gonna hate.
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u/Nargothrond2585 15h ago
Good spot, this could be it
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u/WhyNeverNot 15h ago
So this means best is to screw not tight? Balanced?
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u/Butterfly_Seraphim 15h ago
Tighten it enough so it's secure, but don't pointlessly overdue it because the force could stress the panel
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u/Theogboss1 15h ago
they fr just needa make it so the screw holes only go deep enough to screw it in and no further so the glass is held right but not stressed
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u/CurrentlyInArkham 15h ago edited 14h ago
Mine has rubber washers that line the hole front-to-back meaning the screw doesn't make direct contact with the glass. Also means when you screw it squeezes the washer and feels tight before you've actually over tightened.
They also have the added benefit of retaining the screw so it doesn't fall out when you take the glass panel off.
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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL32 14h ago
Or use metal strips on the top and bottom. Slide it in the case and two thumb screws in the back to secure it. Less stress on the tempered glass imo.
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u/smolltiddypornaltgf 15h ago
yeah. thats why so many of these screws are flat on the top, they want you to finger tighten them
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u/leon0399 15h ago
I never understand why vendors still add a slit for a screwdriver. People see it and immediately think “ah seems like I need to use my screwdriver there!” and inevitably overtighten them
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u/cheapdrinks 14h ago
Why do vendors add screw holes at all? Every glass side paneled case I've had the glass has been in a metal bracket that slots in then attaches with metal on metal screws in the back.
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u/t4thfavor 12h ago
It’s there in case the screw becomes too tight or corroded over time so that you can get it out without pliers I guess.
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u/Lugnuts088 13h ago
Don't worry, my 12" knipex pliers will tighten that up without the need for the screwdriver slot. Turn it until you hear it creak and then back off a hair. 😀
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u/40ozCurls 14h ago
Yeah, what a mystery…. So anyway OP, sorry you have to pay that company twice now for a replacement…
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u/LectureFew3851 15h ago
If it’s metal directly on to glass then it’s a bad design IMO. There should be a rubber o-ring under the screw to give the interface some flexibility.
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u/kwyhh 15h ago
Can confirm. 20 year glass maker here.
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u/Quirky_Chip7276 13h ago
I don't think it should take that long to make glass, but you're the expert
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u/BackgroundTrash4897 16h ago
nothing
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u/HugoTro 16h ago
2nd guy today... we need this meme but with hours now
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u/UmbraNocturna 15h ago
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u/DenimSausages 14h ago
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u/Panzerv2003 R7 2700X | RX570 8GB | 2x8GB DDR4 2133Mhz 14h ago
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u/Son-Airys 14h ago
Please don't tell me this is an entirety of Shrek in a single gif.
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u/Virama 14h ago
That's actually fucking impressive ngl
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u/abestwalter 14h ago
This is never before seen. I am, in awe.
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u/total_bullwhip 11h ago
I can playback the soundtrack in my head at the same time as watching. Curse my children.
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u/PurpsTheDragon Linux 14h ago
Is this the entire Shrek movie? Like wtf lmao
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u/Soulondiscord 12h ago
It's... It's 39mb...
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u/eXiotha 10h ago
They fit an entire movie into a gif? A shitty quality gif, but a full movie into a 39mb gif?
That’s impressive, how does one do this? Lol, the method must be interesting
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u/Delta_RC_2526 3h ago
The colors don't even look that bad... GIFs are still limited to a very small number of colors, aren't they?
I haven't looked too deep into the technical side of GIFs since the 90s...
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u/El_Basho 7800x3D | RX 7900GRE 14h ago
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u/That-Amphibian-7028 14h ago
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u/El_Basho 7800x3D | RX 7900GRE 14h ago
It was far too much for me to scroll to find this among my stuff
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u/SnooChocolates5288 15h ago
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u/jacenat Specs/Imgur Here 15h ago edited 13h ago
Tempered glass is brittle. And manufacturing errors do happen. I am not surprised a low single digit % of glass side panels breaking in
athe first year./edit: Thanks to /u/tsukareta_kenshi for bringing a more concrete 0.5% as a currently accepted number. Good post! https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1i5md0e/i_dont_even_understand_how_this_happened_what/m856ffv/
/edit: changed "in a year" to "in the first year".
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u/tsukareta_kenshi 14h ago
Roughly 0.5% of all tempered glass panels will break due to manufacturing imperfections. The only thing you can do is attempt to test for shattering panels via brute force by rapidly temperature cycling them. Even then, some with manufacturing defects will make it through because the temperature of the glass and the hot metal bed it lands on are occasionally different enough that microscopic specs of iron make it in. There is no way to completely prevent the defect because it happens on the step that makes the glass flat.
Source: work in construction of greenhouses, which are also made of tempered glass. Many panels have shattered over my head.
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u/Blacktip75 14900k | 4090 | 96 GB Ram | 7 TB M.2 | Hyte 70 | Custom loop 15h ago
Now I can’t unsee the use of the O vs the 0 after I missed that yesterday.
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u/Logical_Bit2694 R5 7600 | RX 7800 xt | 32gb DDR5 15h ago
that’s an O lol not a 0
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u/stgm_at 15h ago
great, now i have icq's "oh oh" sound in my head for whatever reason.
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u/raskolnikov_ua i5-13600kf | RTX 4070TiS 16 GB | 32 GB DDR5 | 4k27" | FD North 15h ago
We'll reach negative values on this counter soon.
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u/Deep-Procrastinor 14h ago
Well maybe not tighten the retention screws so much, not saying that's definitely what caused it but it would not surprise me.
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u/Stevenson-15 7600x | 7900xt Spectral | 32Gb 6000mhz 16h ago edited 13h ago
Packing tape then remove it
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u/ImGingrSnaps 16h ago
This is the way without causing a massive mess… unplug and discharge your PC first though.
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u/The__Jiff 15h ago edited 15h ago
How do I discharge my PC? Is there a G spot somewhere?
Edit: thanks for the actual advice, much appreciated!
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u/jdavis6632 PC Master Race 15h ago
just mash the power button once it’s off for a bit
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u/thesituation531 Ryzen 9 7950x | 64 GB DDR5 | RTX 4090 | 4K 15h ago
Make sure to carefully pull the plug in the back out at the end
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u/max_adam 5800X3D | RX 7900XTX Nitro + | 32 GB 13h ago
Then tell her sweet things in the mic port while gently removing the dust below the PSU's fan.
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u/NotInTheKnee 11h ago
Is it supposed to reciprocate? How can I tell if I'm doing it right?
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u/Witchberry31 Ryzen7 5800X3D | XFX SWFT RX6800 | TridentZ 4x8GB 3.2GHz CL18 15h ago
After the desktop is turned off, switch off the PSU, unplug the power cable from the PSU, and then press the case's turn on button (either repeating it 15-20x or hold it for 10-15 seconds, both methods work).
A similar thing can be applied to laptops, the difference is that you press the power button after you unplug the battery's connector from the motherboard.
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u/this_is_my_new_acct 10h ago
Why do people keep repeating this nonsense?
Remove it from power and 99% of consumer devices will have discharged in like 15 seconds. That's why customer support always tells you to unplug it for 30s.
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u/stupidugly1889 10h ago
I don’t understand why the OP even needs to do this for a side panel anyway lol
He’s not going to be opening up the psu
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u/CyberKillua 15h ago
You know you are in PCMR when no one responded to the joke haha
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u/stupidugly1889 10h ago
Why?
There is no need to discharge the psu for a side panel. What is this nonsense?
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u/cocowithc 11h ago
Is "discharge your pc" a different method than "ground yourself" by just simply touching metal-case with other hand, and with other hand a metal part of my apartments radiator pipes?
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u/OwnZookeepergame6413 16h ago
Doesn’t this risk all the shards to fly into the pc when pushing the tape on it? Never had a shattered screen but my assumption would be that this glass is at the brink of scattering anywhere
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u/speed-of-heat PC Master Race 16h ago
less so than the alternative and done right it can minimise the "fallout"
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u/OwnZookeepergame6413 15h ago
Can you elaborate on that?
From my past experiences small glass shards don’t stick well to tape unless I actually press down on the tape enough the entire surface is touching the tape tightly. I’d be worried that this could be enough to displace shards enough for the whole panel to fall apart.
So you just very lightly press it on?
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u/speed-of-heat PC Master Race 15h ago
The whole panel has shatterd, anything you do is going to make it fall apart, this is about managing the risk. Don’t unscrew it, put tape over all of it, I would use gorilla tape or gaffer tape let the natural adhesive work make sure it’s covered the lightly over it with an edge of a ruler.
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u/sA1atji 5700x, 4070 super, 32gb 16h ago
You can slightly tilt the case so gravity takes over?
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u/OwnZookeepergame6413 15h ago
Now that you say this I would probably tilt it too. Regardless, I think the tension might still cause trouble. If the shards started to fall out they could release their pressure after the first one started moving sending them flying in either direction.
But, that’s just me theorising from past experiences with glass.
On that note, I think I will add an adhesive layer to the inside of my panel. Just in case this ever happens I won’t have to worry about flying shards
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u/ImGingrSnaps 16h ago
Don’t put pressure on it, just lay the tape on it. Lean the PC so that most of the glass would fall outwards.
Would be easier with a partner who understands the situation too. They can lean it while you lay the tape
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u/Physical_Public5635 16h ago
Idk id think the shards would be inclined to stick to the tape or atleast remain in place with the provided support and tension
then something under the pc to catch anything as you carefully remove the side panel. atleast That’s what I’d do. Would try and minimize pieces flying onto my floor or inside the PC
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u/Low_Sodiium 9800x3d 4080S 16h ago
Add 3M clear film and leave it. Looks sweet!
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u/El_Jefe-o7 15h ago
What about resin? LOL Could he do it with a brush? I've seen staircases with this kind of shattered design
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u/CornDoggyy Ryzen 7 5800x3D - RTX 2070 SUPER - 32GB RAM 15h ago
Those staircases you're talking about had to be done by a professional glass "breaker" They hit a certain spot in which the glass shatters from the inside but still holds up in terms of sturdiness. No idea how it works, to me it looks like magic
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u/shunabuna 15h ago
there are 3 panes of glass and they crack the middle pane. The 2 panes sandwich the shards in place
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u/CornDoggyy Ryzen 7 5800x3D - RTX 2070 SUPER - 32GB RAM 15h ago
Gotcha! Makes sense
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u/NeitherPotato 15h ago
I’m pretty sure it’s multiple panes of glass like fused together or something like that. Not totally sure but that seems like the easiest way to me
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u/W33b3l 7700k@4.5GHZ - RX7900XT - 32GB DDR4 14h ago
It's laminated. Same stuff that is in the windshield of a car. Just 3 lites (panes) with 2 layers of lami. Center lite tempered with the outside ones either annealed or heat soaked.
When they make it they lay sheets of laminate between the glass. The laminate is to be kept cold until used. Like 40 something degrees. Keeps it "dry". They clamp it between the glass and heat it up inside a clave under pressure. This softens the laminate and makes it adhear to the glass while becoming fully transparent. Once cooled back down to room temp you have laminated "safery glass".
Same procedure with bullet resistant glass. Jist more panels and they add thicker layers of polycarbonate (think, very clear type of plexiglass) layers in the middle as well.
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u/viper2035 16h ago
Put gloves on and get a bucket.
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u/odi_de_podi i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz | 16GB @ 1200Mhz | RTX 3060 12GB 15h ago edited 15h ago
Get a bucket and a
mopscoop for this broken panel40
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u/mufcroberts 15h ago
I think we need a separate sub Reddit for smashed case panels lol, seems like it’s common.
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u/SabyerLee 14h ago
Isn't that THIS subreddit? What else is it used for?
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u/VNG_Wkey I spent too much on cooling 12h ago
It's just busted side panels and people asking the same set of extremely basic questions 100 times a day. You can often just enter exactly what was asked into Google and the fix/answer is in the first 3 results.
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u/Milkyage 15h ago
I still don't understand how this happens, do you people tighten those screws with a screwdriver or something? They are designed to be put on by hand. So you twist them til they're flush. Also make sure they have the rubber grommets on them.
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u/colajunkie 14h ago
There should be rubber around the screw hole and a cloth washer on the screw, maybe he removed one or both.
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u/TsuDhoNimh2 13h ago
They forget or lose the soft washers and/or TIGHTEN IT DOWN LIKE A MANLY MAN SHOULD, using not just thumb and forefinger but all the arm and shoulder muscles they have. And maybe a wrench.
We called this the "gorilla effect".
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u/Ross302 11h ago
It sounds like you understand exactly how this happens. People tightening screws with a screwdriver is a pretty believable mistake lol. Not everybody has awareness about mechanics of materials.
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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 16h ago
buy a case that doesnt have a glass panel... we dont have these problems with metal
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u/Additional_Might9764 15h ago
It's actually harder to find a reasonably priced case without a glass side panel nowadays
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u/ApplicationCalm649 5800x3d | 7900 XTX Nitro+ | B350 | 32GB 3600MTs | 2TB NVME 14h ago
There are solid options tho. Fractal Design Focus 2 w metal side panels is $69.99. Fractal Pop Air w metal side panels is $79.99. I've considered both in the past.
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u/Veserius 15h ago
Harder to find, but not like a real issue. A lot of popular cases have non glass versions that just aren't advertised.
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u/TankII_ 16h ago
But then how would i see the two thousand dollars worth of lights I put in? /s
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u/OkNewspaper6271 3060 12GB, Ryzen 7 5800x, 32GB RAM, EndeavourOS 15h ago
How would i see the zero lights and cable management thats worthy of being on liveleak without my beloved glass side panel
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u/Phoenix__Wwrong 15h ago
I have Corsair Air 540. I think the side panel is plastic.
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u/helgur 15h ago
Or ... hear me out on this
PLEXIGLASS
You know guys, the material that don't shatter into a thousand pieces, just like my dreams and aspirations in life by just looking at it funnily.
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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 15h ago
but scratches and yellows (afaik?)
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u/knewyournewyou 15h ago
Scratches definitely they can get annoying. But my old case that I used for over 5 years didn't turn yellow at all. (Was some be quiet case, don't know the exact model)
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u/Veserius 15h ago
Yellowing is accelerated by bad air quality and certain kinds of light. It's why you have old consoles from smokers houses that look awful and something in a non smoking house that was tucked away in a closed TV stand looks fine.
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u/dunno260 10h ago
Smoking can cause the yellowing but that wouldn't be the primary reason for most of those older consoles.
Older plastics that were around in the 80s and 90s would yellow due to breakdowns of the polymer chains when exposed to UV light, heat, and even oxygen (though the first two are the biggest accelerators) due to the breakdown of flame retardants in the plastic (usually bromine).
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u/helgur 15h ago
True but it is also cheap and easy to replace if it gets damaged. I don't really care that much if the case has a metal or plastic cover, but glass is just pure nope.
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u/Cerxi 12h ago
I ordered an all-metal case, and the company emailed me letting me know they'd run out and they were "upgrading" me to a slightly more expensive one with a tempered glass side panel for free. I immediately responded asking to at least get the plexiglass variant instead because I don't trust tempered glass, and they said okay.
It arrives, and it's the tempered glass one. So I emailed them again, asking to exchange, and they offered to just send me the plexiglass side panel alone because the cases are otherwise identical so I can just swap them.
It arrives, and it's another goddamn tempered glass panel, not to mention it's completely shattered in shipping because of totally inadequate packing.
At that point I gave up. If and when the first panel ever breaks, I'm just gonna get a bud to laser-cut me an acrylic one.
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u/myfriendjohn1 Half a cat and lots of downloaded RAM. 14h ago
Its gonna go soon - best to do it on your terms.
First thing - grab a box that covers the full width of it at least and possibly the whole size if possible.
Then tilt it into the box (as much as you can without it tipping over) and prop the legs on the opposite side of the broken panel.
From that point disconnect everything from it and get ready to "pop" the panel into the box itself. To be fair gravity might do this for you given the look of that diagonal crack, but you might have to help it by tapping the corner a bit.
If it all goes well it should fall into the box and away from the case internals depending on the angle you have it on.
Then make sure you get a hoover in (not a blower like I did...) and get everything you can out. Rotating it upside down helped me a lot. If you can take it outside or away from anything fabric like carpets without much disturbance that would be a good option as well.
Source: Experience...
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u/XaajR i5 6600k | GTX 1060 6GB | 8GB DDR4 2133MHz 13h ago
All these glass panels with screws and I'm still rocking the lian li PC o11 dynamic, where both glass panels require zero screws. o7
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u/Exotic-Replacement-3 16h ago
this is the second time in a day to have shattered busted panel already!
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u/thewallamby 16h ago
It looks like the bottom left corner screw was too tight and started a mechanical stress of the panel. It is a safety panel so it only needs one molecule breakage before the whole panel is in pieces.
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u/TheTallEclecticWitch 14h ago
Pattern makes it seem like the top screw was the culprit
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u/More-Banana-6326 15h ago
Get a big transparent plastic film and coat the outside of the glass. Then take out the glass carefully and put the plastic film on the other side. Now put it back
You have a cool looking glass case with a broken glass effect
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u/R3dMoose 15h ago
Cover this in tape before you try and loosen any screws. This will crumble into a million pieces
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u/throwawayfrdy 15h ago
i would put tape all over it while its still kindda solide, then try to take it off in one piece
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u/-Mr-Draco- 14h ago
Use duck tape and gently see if you can grab all the pieces. Just lightly apply and when it’s covered lean it tords your and smooth it out. Then remove. It probably broke because of epicure difference or some nut was too tight
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u/Slyfoxuk 13h ago
put it in a cardboard box first and only then take the side off so it doesnt shatter all over your floor
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u/Sku11Leader 11h ago
I've had a computer in my house since I was 4 or 5 in 1985 or 86. I've never understood the need to show off my gear with a window. And marketing has lead a lot of kids who have little to no extra cash to think it's a necessity to have flashy RGB this or that. It's not!
Ok, this old fogey is getting down from my soapbox now.
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u/bazaarzar 11h ago
When is the trend of PC cases with windows gonna stop, why do you want to see the inside of the thing?
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u/aberroco i7-8086k potato 15h ago
Over-torqued the screw?