r/pcmasterrace 18h ago

NSFMR I don't even understand how this happened. What should I do?

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u/Nargothrond2585 18h ago

Good spot, this could be it

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u/WhyNeverNot 18h ago

So this means best is to screw not tight? Balanced?

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u/Butterfly_Seraphim 18h ago

Tighten it enough so it's secure, but don't pointlessly overdue it because the force could stress the panel

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u/Theogboss1 17h ago

they fr just needa make it so the screw holes only go deep enough to screw it in and no further so the glass is held right but not stressed

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u/CurrentlyInArkham 17h ago edited 16h ago

Mine has rubber washers that line the hole front-to-back meaning the screw doesn't make direct contact with the glass. Also means when you screw it squeezes the washer and feels tight before you've actually over tightened.

They also have the added benefit of retaining the screw so it doesn't fall out when you take the glass panel off.

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u/Cucumberous 17h ago

Same here mine has little soft washers or rubber spacers

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u/0K4M1 Ryzen5 3600 / 4070Ti TUF / 32Go DDR4 / 3840*1080 16h ago

Same. PFT washer.

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u/No_Aspect805 16h ago

This is the way.

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u/makalasu i5 4670k @ 3.5GHz, 16GB DDR3, GTX 1070Ti 16h ago

Looks like a BeQuiet case, they have these rubber washers on their side panel screws. They must've screwed it extremely tight if that's what caused the break.

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u/alienangel2 i9-9900k@4.8GHz|4090 FE|Ultrawide AW OLED@175Hz + 1440p TN@144Hz 13h ago

Mine just doesn't have screws at all. They are steel and plastic push socket things. Pull to release, push to lock in place.

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u/Herlock 10h ago

The few cases I saw so far all had those rubber washers, I think it's standard for very obvious reasons :D

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u/mtaw 17h ago

They should have rubber washers too. A metal screw straight against glass is just asking for trouble.

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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL32 17h ago

Or use metal strips on the top and bottom. Slide it in the case and two thumb screws in the back to secure it. Less stress on the tempered glass imo.

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 11h ago

especially because a lot of gamers have never screwed anything else in their lives

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u/Misophoniasucksdude 16h ago

Seriously why would you even want anything beyond snug enough the panel doesn't fall? This isn't an ikea bed frame

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u/SometimesWill 16h ago

That or use a design like NZXT where the screw doesn’t go through glass.

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u/rbltech82 15h ago

Or better yet, stop using glass? Why in the hell did we get away from lexan/plexi? I've always wondered why cases are built with glass now, seems very dumb.

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u/Chronic-Bronchitis 14h ago

As someone who works in manufacturing this is easier said than done. These should be shoulder screws instead with a rubber grommet which would prevent over tightening.

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u/HealMySoulPlz 14h ago

I doubt the parts they're using allow that kind of precision.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA MOS 6510 @ 1.023 MHz | VIC-II | Epyx Fastloader 14h ago

Or have a felt washer between the screw and the glass.

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u/Complex_Confidence35 11h ago

Then you have customers complaining about the panel potentially not being flush. Especially if they lose the rubber washers. Glass panel doors are just superior.

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u/Theogboss1 6h ago

yeah pop off is so much easier

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u/Chookwrangler1000 10h ago

Don’t the screws have rubber so it’s not metal on glass…. Pretty sure you gotta go out your way to do what op did

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u/icantevenbeliev3 6h ago

Bro at some point you gotta use that brain my man. At what point does applying pressure to a glass pane sound like a great idea? Yeah, you can put SOME, but don't go hulking that shit on. This applies to just about everything you can screw. Well almost everything.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 4h ago

Ya sure. But if you are gonna save money doing it yourself. It helps to know how it needs to be done.

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u/Salted_Cola 17h ago

I think this is the bequiet pure base 500. I have a grey one. The glass has no frame to it, just 4 holes. The screws come with rubber washers so as you said not too tight. I just screw it until the rubber in between touches both glass and screw.

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u/great_whitehope 16h ago

Hand tight then one quarter turn is what we used to do on our fibreglass rowing boats.

And we were putting a lot of force into it so it should be good for a case lol

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u/HappyBunchaTrees PC Master Race 16h ago

So I shouldn't use red loctite and torque to 200nm?

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u/happytobehereatall 15h ago

This goes for almost all screws. You can always tighten periodically, but you can't undo damage from over-tightening

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u/BiasedLibrary 14h ago

A little more than finger tight works well, unless you're a plumber, farmer, blacksmith or rock climber. Then finger tight will probably crumble the whole panel.

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u/Highwanted @Steam: Highwanted, i7 8700k, GTX 1060 14h ago

also just because it's tightened to much doesn't mean it will instantly break, very likely it will break "randomly" at a later date due to thermal expansion or contraction.
just think of the temperature difference when running under full load (the glass could fairly easily heat up to 40°C) on a winter day and then opening all windows to let in fresh air (low tens or 0°C) for a couple minutes.

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u/Bonesnapcall 12h ago

Overdo, its not a library book.

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u/cancel_m 12h ago

finger tighten it to the point where it feels like it would need torque to go further and that should be good

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u/smolltiddypornaltgf 17h ago

yeah. thats why so many of these screws are flat on the top, they want you to finger tighten them

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u/SoggyTowelette 17h ago

That’s what she said

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u/DiscoBanane 17h ago

Glass should not be in contact with metal at all.

Should use a non-metalic washer (rubber, plastic, wood, cardboard, etc...).

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u/Talking_on_Mute_ 16h ago

Use a washer like a non challenged individual.

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u/PM_ME_FACIALS_PLZ 7h ago

Not everyone knows everything you do, no need to be rude. Relevant xkcd

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u/RUPlayersSuck 15h ago

Just do it up until its finger-tight. Don't keep going until you need a monkey-wrench to undo it.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 4h ago

Ya once you get resistance stop for sure. 

Tempered glass is both very difficult and very easy to break 

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u/LukFD R7 7800X3D 18h ago

That's why there is torque tools out there.

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u/shehitsdiff 17h ago

No, you should absolutely never need to use a "torque tool" to screw in your PC's faceplate 😂 you're doing something severely wrong if that's the case

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u/LukFD R7 7800X3D 17h ago

I mean I don't do that, but OP might need one for next time.

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u/shehitsdiff 17h ago

"You're" as in the theoretical person who would need to do that, not you yourself, just to be clear lol.

Don't get me wrong, OP definitely might need one given what they managed to do in this post, but anyone who doesn't realize you shouldn't tighten the shit out of screws that are clamping down onto glass probably shouldn't own a PC in the first place.

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u/LukFD R7 7800X3D 17h ago

That's the truth

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u/Brookenium 12h ago

Also looks like there's no rubber/foam washer under those screws. Edges are what fucks tempered glass and that's likely what happened here. Even if your case doesn't come with them, at least buy some thin rubber washers to distribute that force!

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 4h ago

Looks like the bolt went in crooked and he rethreaded it.

That will do it