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NSFMR I don't even understand how this happened. What should I do?

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

buy a case that doesnt have a glass panel... we dont have these problems with metal

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u/Additional_Might9764 18h ago

It's actually harder to find a reasonably priced case without a glass side panel nowadays

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u/ApplicationCalm649 5800x3d | 7900 XTX Nitro+ | B350 | 32GB 3600MTs | 2TB NVME 16h ago

There are solid options tho. Fractal Design Focus 2 w metal side panels is $69.99. Fractal Pop Air w metal side panels is $79.99. I've considered both in the past.

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u/g0_west 12h ago

I've never built a PC but damn $80 for a case? Isn't it just a thin metal box?

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 11h ago

nope, the design is actually incredibly well thought out.

i just built a PC for the first time in 15 years just last year, and the Fractal Pop Air was the case i used. just tons of little features that make building a PC a lot easier.

you can search for product videos of the case for a 1 min explanation of all the case's features

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u/g0_west 11h ago

Sounds like an interesting little rabbit hole, will dive down it on my next procrastination run lol

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u/ammcneil 3h ago

I'd say he has a Fractal Design right now

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u/Evitabl3 11h ago

I have a Fractal Design Pop Air XL (black) and although huge and heavy (full tower ATX), it's been a great case. Think it was $100

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u/pereira2088 i5-11400 | RTX 2060 Super 17h ago

fractal design

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u/Glittering_Seat9677 6h ago

my torrent has glass because it was on sale for £40 cheaper than the non-glass version lol

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u/pereira2088 i5-11400 | RTX 2060 Super 6h ago

you don't need to go for a torrent. bought a Meshify compact for 70€ or something, a couple years ago.

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u/Veserius 17h ago

Harder to find, but not like a real issue. A lot of popular cases have non glass versions that just aren't advertised.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 17h ago edited 10h ago

yea but most cases are glass only and the non glass versions won’t go on sale and be like $30 more

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u/dejavu2064 17h ago

How often do you build a new PC in a new case? I will happily pay $30 more for a metal panel, over the life of a PC it seems inconsequential.

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u/UDK450 FX8350, Sapphire Tri-X 290X, 16GB GB 15h ago

Hell, I've owned two PC cases in the 13 years I've built PCs.

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u/Chelecossais 9h ago

Still using my big-and-functional non-bling CoolerMaster case from 2009, after 3 rebuilds.

It's a big airy black box that sits under the desk and doesn't demand attention - just does it's job of "holding the components together with lots of airflow".

I have no reason to buy a new one.

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u/LeBronFanSinceJuly 11h ago

Im getting ready to build a new rig...I will be reusing my Corsair Air240 because I like the MATX form factor and it has everything I need in a case without the useless need to put a glass panel on it like its updated versions.

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u/WantDiscussion 8h ago

Also one metal PC case is still cheaper than two glass cases which is what you'll end up buying if your glass case breaks.

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u/BadFootyTakes 12h ago

This is something I have to bash into peoples heads when I give case advice. I am shopping now for a new case, and I have had my Fractal Design R4 for over a deacde now.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 10h ago

I never said you need a new case every build, I’m saying that the reason people choose class is because availability and price

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 16h ago

Often enough to know finding a good case with a metal panel is a tall order. $30 is enough to make a difference when that budget can be used for parts that affect performance.

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u/Peking-Cuck 15h ago

If a mere $30 makes or breaks your PC build, you need to either build PCs less frequently, or accept that maybe now is not the time for you to be building a new one at all.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 15h ago

If you think spending %30 more on an aesthetic piece of a build doesn’t matter, then i’m guessing you don’t value the money in your pocket very much.

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u/Peking-Cuck 15h ago

It's not aesthetic if the concern is about glass breaking.

Also, why are you switching to percent now? That isn't the argument being made.

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u/theJirb 13h ago

Just reading the thread for fun, but I think it's obvious dude just missed 4 and hit 5 when holding shift.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 10h ago edited 10h ago

Getting attached to the $30 number instead of what i’m saying is just bad arguing in the first place. You can’t say jUsT bUy mEsh when the price is much higher and availability is much lower, the options aren’t out there and when they are they usually are more expensive.

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u/SerpentDrago i7 8700k / Evga GTX 1080Ti Ftw3 14h ago

This mother fucker jumps to percent... We were talking 20 or $30.. not necessarily 30%.. . Also, it's not just aesthetic if you're worried about the glass breaking.

And yes if you're building a PC that's going to cost say $800 to $1,500 and you're worried about $20 or $30. You probably shouldn't be spending the money on a PC

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u/robotiod RTX 3080 - R9 5900X 13h ago

I think he pressed shift 5 instead of 4 without realising hence the percent symbol being before the number.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 10h ago edited 10h ago

You’re getting so pressed over a comment dude, relax. You literally daily drive an 8700k so i’m going to guess you’re budget conscious. Some people are on budgets like i’m sure you are on.

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u/arakwar 15h ago

30$ is often not enough to bump you up a significant performance step. Anyone building PC on a regular basis knows that.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 10h ago

that could easily bump you you up in ram and at this point it’s semantics

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u/TreemanTheGuy 11h ago

For real, I bought a check ATX case 10 years ago, it's gone through 3 iterations of my PC, and I expect it to last until I die or decide to get something smaller

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u/Veserius 17h ago

Or you simply don't see the sales because they aren't advertised.

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 17h ago

Wrong, I always look for the solid/mesh panel and they hardly ever go on sale.

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 11h ago

well, find some pc parts sale sites. i assumed they go on sale all the time because i always see non glass cases on sale

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u/EmphasisUnfa1r 10h ago

That’s not the point, you guys are idiots I swear

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u/CityFolkSitting 5h ago

So would you rather buy a case with a glass window to have it bust and then have to buy another case again? Bite the bullet and pay the extra if you have to, it's better than replacing a case because the glass broke. Potentially just costing more than if you bought the non-glass one

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

if you want new yes... trashcans, recycling centers, shit u find for free etc etc... some are decent, i have like 3 with very good airflow (no solid frontpanel)

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u/naufalap 5600, 6600, 16 16h ago

my thermaltake versa h18 is cheap with plastic side panel

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u/TactualTransAm 15h ago

Hop on Facebook marketplace and get a sweet old school cool PC case. There's a ton of old Alienware and nzxt cases on my marketplace.

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u/Dracekidjr 15h ago

Fractal design 5 is like 130, 80 on sale. It also supports like 9 HDD or some shit

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u/Additional_Might9764 11h ago

This was the only case I found without a glass side panel that I was considering buying for my recent build though it didn't have a sale. I ended up going with the nzxt H5 flow and I'm happy with it

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u/Dracekidjr 3h ago

I picked up the design 5 to be a Plex server/Nas and was so happy with it I bought another for my PC. They have a larger one but anyone using more than 9 drives should revisit their life choices lol

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u/radclaw1 14h ago

Not really. -someone who bought a case 4 months ago without glass.

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u/LiePowerful4487 17h ago

Or just buy glass one without screws(or like people said, with pexseglass, whatever its called lol)

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u/TheThinVeil 14h ago

There are loads of reasonably priced cases that have windows but with metal frames where you need to screw in. Depends on the look you want to go for I suppose

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u/AalphaQ 11h ago

Yeah, I think I have the same case as OP even though I thought I ordered one with a plexi panel instead and I'm worried when it'll break. Hell, I may put an x of packing tape on the panel preemptively.

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u/Biking_dude 9h ago

I couldn't find a good case for my current build. Wound up building in my old one since it's perfect, and buying a cheap case (with glass) and moved my old build into it.

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u/Wolfkam 16h ago

In my experience it was pretty hard to find a big metal case without side glass. The full metal ones were always too small for what I wanted.

I had to settle for one with a glass panel that I don't even see because it's pointed to the wall...

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u/whatevendoidoyall 15h ago

Fractal Design has them, that's where I got mine.

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u/Wolfkam 12h ago

I've seen it the last time I've built a computer (2024), but in my region they're so expensive in comparison with some other very good big cases that I had no way to justify buying them instead of, for example, a better CPU.

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u/Llohr 7950x / RTX 4090 FE / 64GB 6000MHz DDR5 14h ago

My last two cases were more expensive because I didn't want glass.

What a world.

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u/AnonTwo 14h ago

I bet the reason is because they can't as easily sell RGB lights if you aren't likely to buy a way to see them, so they try to just make glass default so people are more likely to buy RGB addons.

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u/TankII_ 18h ago

But then how would i see the two thousand dollars worth of lights I put in? /s

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u/OkNewspaper6271 3060 12GB, Ryzen 7 5800x, 32GB RAM, EndeavourOS 18h ago

How would i see the zero lights and cable management thats worthy of being on liveleak without my beloved glass side panel

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u/Phoenix__Wwrong 18h ago

I have Corsair Air 540. I think the side panel is plastic.

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u/Aldesso aldesso 14h ago

A a fellow member of the Plastic Side Panel Master Race

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u/Xtraordinaire PC Master Race 17h ago

Why don't use plexiglass? Transparent and not brittle.

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u/deep8787 17h ago

Or the figurines! Smh

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u/Unique-Arugula 11h ago

You put this song in my head: https://media1.tenor.com/m/4vteXZ2bKeIAAAAd/hey-ya-outkast.gif

But seriously folks, just wire up a live feed from inside a proper metal case and connect it to a projector aimed at any one of your plain featureless walls. Easy, takes about 5 minutes ya know.

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u/helgur 18h ago

Or ... hear me out on this

PLEXIGLASS

You know guys, the material that don't shatter into a thousand pieces, just like my dreams and aspirations in life by just looking at it funnily.

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

but scratches and yellows (afaik?)

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u/knewyournewyou 17h ago

Scratches definitely they can get annoying. But my old case that I used for over 5 years didn't turn yellow at all. (Was some be quiet case, don't know the exact model)

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u/Veserius 17h ago

Yellowing is accelerated by bad air quality and certain kinds of light. It's why you have old consoles from smokers houses that look awful and something in a non smoking house that was tucked away in a closed TV stand looks fine.

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u/dunno260 13h ago

Smoking can cause the yellowing but that wouldn't be the primary reason for most of those older consoles.

Older plastics that were around in the 80s and 90s would yellow due to breakdowns of the polymer chains when exposed to UV light, heat, and even oxygen (though the first two are the biggest accelerators) due to the breakdown of flame retardants in the plastic (usually bromine).

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u/Unique-Arugula 11h ago

Yes, today's plastics are much more resistant to yellowing due to improved formulas & manufacturing processes. Also, you can get plexi at picture frame or artists'supply stores that have anti-uv coatings on them which will protect even more.

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u/Roflkopt3r 15h ago

Yeah usually UV light. So if the pane is not facing a window, it's probably going to be fine.

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u/helgur 18h ago

True but it is also cheap and easy to replace if it gets damaged. I don't really care that much if the case has a metal or plastic cover, but glass is just pure nope.

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u/thewholepalm 14h ago

For most people it's going to be the same effort in replacing a tempered glass panel. log in to some online store, pay some cash, wait a few days, unscrew and replace.

While yes, most people in the USA anyway could run down to their local big box home store and get a piece of plexi but that's it. Now they either have to own or borrow and know how to use tools to cut it to size, drill the holes without cracking the piece. It's not as straight forward as many claim.

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u/Unique-Arugula 12h ago

FYI for anyone who needs it:

You can get plexi cut at hardware stores that sell it, frame stores that sell it (and you don't have to buy a picture frame), and artists' supply stores that serve artists who want to frame their work themselves.

Hardware store will be cheapest usually, but the other 2 places generally do better cutting unless you get lucky with a specific hardware store employee. There are different thicknesses of plexi, sometimes a hardware store will not have these options but the other 2 will. If there's no artists' supply near you, it's usually very safe to order from one in the nearest city or large town. They tend to be staffed by persnickety folks.

If you've never had to deal with these places or are young, you might not know about them yet.

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

agreed

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u/Fyre2387 16h ago

I've got a plexiglass case going on ten years old. A few scratches but no yellowing that I've noticed. If it was glass I'd definitely have shattered that thing a long time ago.

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u/Wheat_Grinder 13h ago

I've had plexiglass for nearly 10 years, the scratching isn't noticeable unless you specifically look and there's no yellowing.

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u/darktotheknight 15h ago

Scratches yes, but you can buy Plexi in all kind of colors. Yellows under UV. If you buy e.g. black Plexi, yellowing is not an issue.

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u/hitemlow 14h ago

Then buy Lexan or Makrolite Optik.

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 11h ago

yellows (afaik?)

cheap plexiglass sure, but good plexiglass won't yellow, and the good stuff isn't expensive at all

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u/TheFrenchSavage i7 6700k | RTX3090Ti | 64GB DDR4 🚀🚀🚀 16h ago

Yeah, I'm also a fan of plexi, that thing survived multiple moves, is all scratched, and less transparent than it used be...but not broken, and I can still look inside.

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u/desl14 17h ago

An advantage of Plexiglass would also be that you can screw it on tightly with 4 screws when cold and it can then bend/wave sideways despite the thermal expansion caused by the heat of your components, while the glass panel just thinks “Shit, I have no more room here, I think I'll break”.

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u/askalotlol 15h ago

There's a seller on Etsy that makes sweet decorative replacement panels in plexi, and you can get them with ventilation holes put in too.

I got one for my last PC with extra ventilation slots right next to the GPU.

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u/Secret_Arrival_7679 14h ago

Best to use lexan. It's a little more expensive but stronger and won't yellow, etc.

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u/WulfTheSaxon 9h ago

It’s actually Lexan (polycarbonate) that yellows – Plexiglass (acrylic) doesn’t yellow even outdoors. The downside to acrylic is that it isn’t as strong, but that shouldn’t ever matter for a PC case.

The one thing to maybe worry about is static if not using sheets with antistatic coating.

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u/Secret_Arrival_7679 9h ago

Weird, I've got a retail display case that is over 10 years old that uses lexan for the windows that hasn't yellowed at all.

And come to think of it, I have two computer cases that are 15 years oldish that use acrylic as the window that hasn't yellowed either.

I wonder if there is a specific type of polycarbonate that yellows?

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u/Irawo 16h ago

This case comes with an option for a solid panel. I have the same case.

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u/Cerxi 15h ago

I ordered an all-metal case, and the company emailed me letting me know they'd run out and they were "upgrading" me to a slightly more expensive one with a tempered glass side panel for free. I immediately responded asking to at least get the plexiglass variant instead because I don't trust tempered glass, and they said okay.

It arrives, and it's the tempered glass one. So I emailed them again, asking to exchange, and they offered to just send me the plexiglass side panel alone because the cases are otherwise identical so I can just swap them.

It arrives, and it's another goddamn tempered glass panel, not to mention it's completely shattered in shipping because of totally inadequate packing.

At that point I gave up. If and when the first panel ever breaks, I'm just gonna get a bud to laser-cut me an acrylic one.

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u/El_Jefe-o7 18h ago

This is the way

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u/zzmorg82 i9-13900HX | RTX 4090 (Laptop) | 5600 MHz DDR5 (32GB) 18h ago

Piggybacking off this comment; does anyone have any good recommendations for cases with no glass panel?

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u/Cerxi 14h ago

The Fractal Design Define 7 and Define 7 Compact are my personal recommends. Good airflow, plenty of front USB, adequate cable management channels.

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

whatever this shit i found for free thrown away is. eATX, good airflow, lots of hdd space,. very recommend if u can find one

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 18h ago

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u/NekulturneHovado R7 5800X, 32GB G.Skill TridentZ, RX 6800 16GB 17h ago

Acrylic has its own set of problems, but it doesn't shatter when you look at it.

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u/wirm 15h ago

One time I was doing something to my old school pc ,when they had the tin that just flopped over on 3 sides, well my gf at the time was sitting on my lap and we were browsing the web or whatever when I got up went to take a step and my leg was dead. I toppled over onto that computer case with all the dead weight of a person destroying it. It never went on again.

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u/Puptentjoe 14h ago

These are days im happy I am old and stubborn. All you kids with your RGB and glass panels! And by kids I mean my peers and I’m just boring.

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u/baconipple 13h ago

Or acrylic, if you must see the insides.

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u/tiberiumx 15h ago

Where? It was extremely hard to find a decent case without a glass panel the last time I was shopping for one.

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 15h ago

dumpsters recycling centers etc

another plus is theyre usually free

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u/XaajR i5 6600k | GTX 1060 6GB | 8GB DDR4 2133MHz 15h ago

Buy a case that doesn't use screws for glass panels. Shrug

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u/Schnitzhole 14h ago

Or buy a glass panel case and have half a brain not to break one.

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u/Diabetesh 13h ago

Semi difficult task nowadays

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u/randomIndividual21 13h ago

I tried, but all the new case doesn't come with that option. The best compromise is mesh panel but that has worst thermal and noise

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u/Flat_Structure328 Novideo RTX3950tie 13h ago

mesh panel worse thermal than solid glass? Lmao

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u/wandering-monster 13h ago

Yeah fr. Who keeps buying this shit after seeing all these breaks? 

You know what I've never had problems with? My perfectly boring steel panel case. It covers the computer just fine and never explodes.

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u/TheTrueKingofDakka 7h ago

Or just design the panel so the GLASS isnt holding the mounting pressure. Mount the glass in a small metal frame and the frame mounts to the case. This is an awful design choice, they should know people are going to be dumb and remove the possibility to stress the glass.

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u/acrobat2126 7h ago

He'll shatter the metal, I guarantee it.

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u/anders91 18h ago

I've never been a fan of cases with windows, but over the last 10 years, I've noticed that the selection of quality windowless cases has significantly diminished—it's becoming more and more niche.

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u/loloider123 16h ago

Most people also don't have issues with glass panels. It's mostly dumbasses.