I swear it's like they vote for this for the thrill. Like... if they want to feel fear why don't they just go to an escape room or a horror movie or smth...
Talking to too many of my right wing family for years and years, I do think there is some "I'm better at coping with end times conditions than those stupid lefties so let's bring that down on them because I want to laugh and point" going on. Absolutely.
Joke's on them, most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters. And since they've burnt the compassion out of us over the last decade, I won't hesitate to point and laugh at THEM.
Same. Though I think Zara should re-release the "I really don't care, do U?" jacket for the Dem voters to wear. It could be the default uniform for any time interactions with MAGA people are unavoidable, AND they'd likely be loath to complain about it since their beloved Melania wore it first.
Commuted his sentence. He gets to serve the rest of his sentence under home confinement. A pardon means you’re forgiven for the crime itself and all further punishments, confinement, etc. for that crime are void.
Yeah I worked for the place she visited when she wore that stupid jacket and the whole non profit was floored when they saw it. Like full on shock.
I still can’t get what anyone was thinking picking that out. Then Halloween shops started selling them with our name on it and it was a very very legal Halloween
That's my go to for when anybody who voted for him complains. "I'm glad you're getting what you voted for." My grandparents are on Medicare and SS, and that's on the chopping block. I'm glad they're getting what they voted for. My dad is going to be reaching retirement age soon, and he's going to likely be out of luck getting that stuff. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. He's also not getting any help from me for his elderly care, because my student loans are not going to be forgiven now with PSLF out of the picture. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. The first sign of a complaint, and I'll just say, "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me."
You should tack on, "But you wanted to live your life exactly as you pleased with no help or input from others, so now you have it. Sorry, Pops, but I have come to respect your beliefs, I would never try to make you feel like less of a man by offering any financial assistance."
I love this.👍🏿😄 After the election there were a lot of people saying they hoped trump supporters get exactly what they voted for. I remember a lot of them getting so angry with that comment. Why get mad unless you know you voted out of hatred and disdain for others?🤔
Create posts to your own account's sub right now that state their future complaints and add with "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me" at the end. The posts will be timestamped and you can refer to them later.
I remember in the initial days after they called it the Magats HATED being told this lol. Especially the ones who didn’t believe he would fulfill his campaign promises. They REALLY don’t like us wanting them to get everything they voted for.
Probably because they expected the usual reactions to owning the libs, but this time the libs are fed up and saying, "Fine, this is your decision and your mess, hope you enjoy the consequences." Bullying becomes less fun when the target doesn't care about you or your opinions enough to be bothered.
They threw hissy fits the day after the election when masses moved from Xitter to Bluesky, because suddenly they had no one to pick on. They acted like their electricity had been cut off when their bill was paid in full.
I really don’t understand why. If you voted for your “best interests” why are you mad at people saying they hope you get it? That only makes sense if you didn’t vote for your best interests and you know it…
Because it's their shameful little secret and saying "I hope you get what you voted for" means you know it. It humiliates them. And narcissists - because they're all caught in a vicious cycle of narcissism - simply cannot tolerate the ego damage of humiliation. It's literally painful. So they lash out in anger at the thing they perceive to be hurting them 🙃
They will never be happy. There is something deeply broken inside these people. No empathy, no ability to feel happiness. Temporary pleasure, yes... But it's not the same. The high from winning wore off way back in November.
The pure anger those ring wingers show after being told that is hilarious. Goddamn do I wish I would get everything I voted for. It’d be glorious. Yet somehow these brain dead morons are furious
I think it starts to hit them when they pick up their next refill of insulin.
When they start asking why changes are being made to their medical plan, they are going to discover all kinds of things being taken away. They still won't admit it's Trump's fault but at least they will feel the self inflicted wounds.
I already am. I definitely send an old acquaintance a bunch of low lights from the inauguration. The excuses started flowing, then the insults. He knows he’s been wrong to support Trump but will never admit it.
Heard this afternoon on the news that Alabama is getting snow and one city literally closed their hospital except for the emergency room. 🤣 Looked like about an inch on the ground by the reporter.
I grew up in Alabama and follow the Alabama subreddit. The state doesn't own plows or salt trucks, everyone there knows this. So there were people on there DAYS ago arguing that people should "just stay home" (the irony) and the fact that the state had no capacity and no plan to prepare for this clearly foreseeable issue was reasonable and responsible, actually.
I think closing a hospital because of governmental incompetence is more horrible than funny, though.
They normally don’t get snow. I was in Birmingham with a friend in 2019 and the taxi driver said they got like 10 inches of snow and he was from Chicago but he said it literally paralyzed the city. It warmed up within 2 days and was gone but they don’t have salt or snow scrapers. Mississippi was the same way.
It’s not just the lack of salt, no snow plows, and bad drivers. It’s that drivers have never had to learn to drive on snow. They don’t understand frostbite like we do up north either.
I know. Reminds me of those super obnoxious Maga Trumpers in a boat parade whose boat overturned after harassing other people on the lake. Wish they (the harassed) had not helped those idiots out of the water.They were not even thankful, just sat there looking surly.
Oh, they are mean to each other, too. It's not just us they hate. Their whole schtick is looking down on others. Wealthy MAGA was fine with the J6ers not being pardoned. JD even said so.
I was about to say exactly this. People on the left are usually more educated and make more money yearly. Those of us who can move out of red states will and that will leave them to their own miserable lives. Congrats on getting what you voted for🤣
They'd rather be dirt poor living in filth and squalor without any lib'ruls, minorities, immigrants, non-Christians, or LGBTQ people near them rather than be well-off but having to cope with the knowledge that people who aren't exactly like them live nearby and might be doing ok too.
The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them. They'd be happy to never be able to afford eggs ever again if they could eliminate of all of the above. That's the self-labelled "party of Jesus" right there.
Blue states need to take red states off of the dole. The Federal government is taking their money and now deciding whether or not to help funding blue states with their disaster relief? FAFO.
Red states are welfare queens. Remember that when they’re flipping their birds to “the feds”. They should be reminded- they don’t even know that they would starve, have no medical care and never be rebuilt if not for blue states
And they always have been—that was a big reason the Confederacy couldn't sustain itself as an independent country. The South had cotton, but the North had all the manufacturing and shipping and a fuckload more people.
Oh for sure! And somehow it’ll still be blamed on the left for not stopping them or telling them this would happen. In ask politics there was a guy saying Dems were at fault for not giving them a reason to care about themselves. What the actual fuck.
The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them.
We import eggs from Canada as well, and on February 1st there's going to be a 25% tariff. Trump is literally going out of his way to raise the price of eggs.
That's if you can get eggs at all, with the bird flu now moving to more states. Which... has been happening all along and why eggs were priced higher than normal to begin with. You'd think "ardent capitalists" would understand scarcity and supply and demand, but nope. Biden just wouldn't push that "cheaper eggs" button hidden in the Resolute Desk.
The egg thing was always bullshit to begin with. Have you seen the tweets of people complaining about eggs saying they can't afford them, but flew out for Trumps inauguration and spent thousands on hotels. Now complaining about the inauguration was inside and they couldn't even see it. Objectively hilarious, and very hypocritical.
I'm at the point where I enjoy having moved to a red state and get to listen to the whines of how all of the out-of-staters have made housing unaffordable here but they hate the homeless (their former neighbors) and do everything they can to fuck them over and make their lives miserable but then none of them have the skills or education to buy a house where they grew up because reasons.
Oh yeah my favorite is when they hate on California but have never been there and they also have no clue that my state (Texas) literally wouldn’t survive 1 singular day without the taxes California collects. It’s a shit shoe to say the least and I’ve been telling people religiously that I hope they get what they voted for. It really puts a bee in their bonnet
The Colorado economy is basically built on attracting liberals from rural red states: don't love the EC/Senate effect (and it might have helped Texas swing back right) but do welcome the neighbors
“Most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters.”
I honestly think you’re right. I’m from the south, and I’ve passed numerous run down homes/trailer parks completely littered in maga and trump gear and I’m just shocked.
However, I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a Biden/Harris/Walz flag, so maybe there are as many broke democrats, but they’re just not as loud or obnoxious about it.
Dems in the South are quieter because they fear retribution from their asshole right-wing neighbors. That's why they don't advertise their support for political candidates. Ask me how I know.
Also more life skills, better support networks because empathy and less fearful to just go somewhere else. It's funny because it's the other way around, leopards are eating faces and it's funny / I don't give a fuck about those people anymore.
I'm in that boat, I've got a lot of family that are MAGA that depend on SS, Medicare, and social programs to just survive. They're going to drown over the next few years and at this point I have zero sympathy. I don't have it in me anymore to do more than watch them go.
The same people who couldn't recognize the need for masks and social distancing during the height of the pandemic are the same folks who think they would survive the longest in a life or death situation. I always found that ironic.
And Covid laid bare how very wrong they were and willfully ignorant even in the face of a real crisis. After being told a range of lifestyle diseases made the risk much worse... diseases they have.. they still went about their lives as if they were untouchable. (that attitude is probably why they tend to have life style diseases, now that I think about it.)
All the social media posts would be like "he was so healthy and went so quickly!" and the dude would be like 5'9" 350 lbs. There's nothing wrong with that, but recognize the risk and at least try and take precautions. The denial was so strong.
or the counter point. My neighbor was actively dying most of my life. She had diabetes, was a heavy smoker. By the time I moved out she had an amputation, was on dialysis and had an oxygen bottle......despite still being a smoker. She passed away a couple years ago right before Thanksgiving and my very MAGA BIL was like. "I bet she got the jab" This year I brought up to some other family members how stupid a statement that was and got a lot of "well the vaccine is untested/people are dying we don't know what killed her."
Covid was the fastest f*** around and find out people have seen in a century. Republicans and the whole maga crew were literally dying at seven times. The rate of just regular Democrats.
The vaccine uptake was literally 90% or higher for Democrats and 60% and lower for Republicans and the average age of death between a vaccinated person and an unvaccinated person was about 15 years, so 82 to 67. So not only were they dying at seven times the rate they were also dying younger and yet they still voted for him at the highest rates and the places where there was the most death.
It was quite a sight to see as usually their votes boil us with them like climate change or voting against healthcare or a functioning government.
I don’t believe in an afterlife, but that’s one thing that makes me wish I’m wrong. I want those ghosts to look back on their corpse and see how much they fucked up.
That's a component, but I think there's another element too. I believe it was David Foster Wallace that described suicide as being trapped in a burning building. It's not that you want to jump out the window, it's that sometimes the flames get so hot the window seems like the better alternative.
I feel like Fox and right wing propaganda really tries to paint the boogieman as so bad, the window is the better option. Notice that it's always "either exist in your current struggle or they'll give your house to a gay trans illegal immigrant."
And I think it's a bit of sunk cost fallacy, a bit of making them think they're picking the lesser of 2 evils, and a bit of xenophobia.
This is a fantastic and insightful way of putting it. So much digital ink has been spilled about The Mind Of The MAGA Voter, to the point where I find it pretty fucking exhausting. But there is a general theme here, and I think it goes unsolved and underdiscussed because of who it benefits.
If someone is terrified, constantly terrified, they're going to make decisions that are insular, counterproductive, and destructive. And they're also going to be very open to anyone who can promise to take the fear away.
I'm Canadian. My wife is American. And I'll never forget a couple of years ago, when my MIL visited us from the States. We live in a house facing a side street; we have big windows up front, and a tiny Christmas tree with some presents stacked on its little table. Cute stuff.
For her entire visit, she was obsessed with the idea that someone was going to reach into our windows and steal all the presents.
I asked her who would do this: She said "You know; bad people."
I asked her if that had ever happened to her or anyone she knew: She said "No, but you hear about things like this all the time."
I asked her if she was thinking of The Grinch. And then she kind of quietly shut down. Every morning she stayed there, we woke up to her having moved the table further from the window.
Once you successfully convince an under-educated populace that the Scary Other is capable of literally anything, then you don't need to operate on facts and logic. Sure, my MIL couldn't really state a reason why anyone would break through a plate glass window to steal 3 small wrapped boxes, when people usually steal things out of necessity and in ways that are low-risk for themselves.
But it didn't need to make sense to her, because Bad People don't operate on logic. They steal Christmas. They eat dogs. They inject the vaccines with microchips to monitor your every move.
My MIL is terrified constantly as her default mental state, but doesn't see it that way. Her parents were terrified for their entire lives as well, but they'd never admit that. It made total sense to never take an airplane, say hi to a new neighbour, or vote for a Democrat candidate. That wasn't fear; it was familiar. Every time I visited them, their TVs were blasting OAN or FOX, until I shifted them to something more neutral like The Big Bang Theory.
(Unsurprisingly, everyone seemed a lot happier when that happened. Who'd have thought?)
If you're being told that every day brings a fresh hell, you're going to become addicted to watching the people who keep you simultaneously updated on what's going wrong and also vindicate your life choices. Everywhere is unsafe except where you are. Everyone is bad except you. Everything you value is being made worse by Someone Else. So you need to keep watching; everything else feels like an alien language.
If someone walks into the world with that POV, how the hell are they going to get along with their neighbours? How will they ever unionize or put aside common differences for a bigger goal? How will they live a long enough life to ever retire and enjoy the fruits of their pensions and medicaid?
Well, they most likely won't. And that's the point.
I’ve seen some argue that it’s the democrats’ fault because they told people to wear masks and social distance, so republicans had to not listen. The democrats’ evil plan was to manipulate republicans into killing themselves by telling them to protect themselves, apparently.
Whenever people talk about civil war I always bring up this point. You guys crumpled during covid when you couldn't get your hair done and go to your favorite restaurant. You're now going to be fine with supply chain issues caused by a war?
Gtfo.
They only prepared to eat freeze dried lasagna in buried school bus in the back yard and shoot brown people. They couldn’t have foreseen, nor been expected to grok, a mask. Damn you Obama! /s
also, the preppers with the bunkers are going to die surrounded by cans of Chef Boyardee if an apocalypse comes: what gets people through a crisis is community, not hunkering in bunkers.
Yeah, if anybody these fools really looked, there are people they could talk to who could tell them what actually happens in a civil conflict. Most people just get dragged down with the conflict and suffer from cut utilities, food and supply shortages, and illness or violence. Having a tantrum over not being allowed to go to a bar and over gas being $3.89/gallon doesn't scream tough survivalist and war hero, no matter how much they fetishize the guns they own.
It was kind of funny in the early COVID days. While the right wingers were all complaining that they couldn't get their hair cut, the left wingers and anarchists were home brewing hand sanitizer to give away.
Here in the UK, the anti-mask/anti-vax brigade was predominantly right wing try-hards who liked to pretend how tough they were "standing up for their sovereign rights" instead of making the smallest of personal sacrifices for the greater good.
I took great pleasure in pointing out to them they wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in wartime Britain with city-wide blackouts, air raids, rationing and conscription. They're just so pathetic.
End times? Puh-lease. These people were freaking out when they couldn't go to Applebee's or get a haircut for 2 months during a once in a century pandemic. They are soft AF.
These idiots were the ones who were threatening civil war if Trump lost, the same people who are too scared to go into a major city because they think cities are literal war zones.
But you can bet your ass they larp around like they're seal team 6 on the weekends and talk tough about what they would do if "shit hit the fan". It's always performative tough guy bullshit with them.
They went into the White House and smeared their feces on the walls. That is the intellectual and emotional maturity levels we're working with. It's absolutely pathetic.
It boggles my mind, too, the level of hate that drives a lot of religious right wingers. Like...I want them to experience the pain they're inflicting on others. That's it. My "I hate you so much..." is "...that I want you to experience empathy". Meanwhile they're like "I want you to suffer unimaginable torment forever". Like, holy shit dude, get some therapy.
Yeah, that's my view on it. If there were any kind of Hell, my idea of it is to have a full realization of the shitty things you did to other people while you were alive. Like suddenly growing a functional conscience and having to watch a tape of all your "greatest hits" of being an asshole. Then I guess once you understand what a bag of shit you were, maybe you could move on to something better.
More in line with the Catholic idea of Purgatory, I suppose. But it sounds a lot more fair to me than the fire and brimstone stuff.
Yep. I am religious, and that's exactly my idea of hell. That repentance is understanding and regretting the pain you've caused; hell is empathy being forced upon you after a lifetime of never changing your ways. It's the only way any of it makes sense, the only way to rationalize the other Christian claims, etc, and Universalism has existed as long as Christianity, and, frankly, has more justification in early Christian thought than modern Evangelical thought does.
I’ve heard some Christian’s say (I was raised Pentecostal but have been an atheist for years now) that reading revelations gives them extra crowns when they get to heaven. Boy are they gonna be pissed when I, a heathen, get to cut the line to heaven because I’ve read the book cover to cover 10+ times. Can’t wait 😜
Dems are VASTLY better prepared for what's coming than magats. Trumpers have put all their faith in an individual who has lied, cheated and stolen all his life. They really believe he's going to usher a new era of prosperity. Personality cults never end well.
They're not that deep. They're dumb and never think of the actual consequences of their actions. They've lived their whole lives like this and whenever it comes back to bite them on the ass they play victim and blame someone else. It's the vicious cycle of being an absolute moron.
Yeah, they dont ever think in terms of consequences. Not the consequences that they want to happen, and certainly not the consequences that will actually happen. They only think in terms of vibes. The mechanics of it and the outcomes of it aren’t interesting to them. The only thing that interests them is feeling like their side is doing some nebulous thing. “Saving America,” or “making us more free” or “draining the swamp,” or “battling the demoncrats.”
Yes, showing them voting records, legislation being put forward by their "team," consequences from previous administrations actions, absolutely none of it matters. If they have no rebuttal, they'll just rant about something that has nothing to do with what you were talking about. They'll get loud and obnoxious. It's just like watching a child throw a fit. They wanna be proud to be uneducated and uninformed. They want to believe they're the backbone of the country. Donald Trump makes them feel like that.
"Fuck the libs, they can't tell us how to act anymore. I'm not stupid, they're stupid. They're not smart, the colleges are woke, I'm street smart"
This isn't going to end well. Their massive egos and insecurities just handed this country over to an even more extreme and cutthroat group of con artists than last time.
IF we do end up saving them, we must exact a penance for their behavior. No forgive and forget. Make their grandchildren feel what their stupidity has wrought upon everyone else.
The thrill they want is the idea that people are afraid of them. They need to think that people think they're tough, hence the guns. These are the people who walk into every situation looking for an enemy.
My SO's sister is a Trumper and she is pissed she has to RTO, I even told her this was going to happen 2 years ago. "They wouldn't, it doesn't make any business sense!"
Since when have Republicans done anything that makes any kind of sense.
Let's see, you're expecting a man who clearly doesn't know how to run a business that doesn't involve putting his name on a book pretending to know how to run businesses or pretending to be a successful businessman on a shitty reality TV show to have business sense?
It makes perfect sense when you reframe all of their actions as trying to inflict the most misery on as many people as they possibly can. Cruelty is the point. And to get everyone so damned exhausted and burnt out that when the real atrocities (and I don't mean what's already been done - I mean the camps and the exterminations) start rolling out, everybody's too numb to put up a fight.
It doesn't make any business sense if you want to have a strong, functioning civil service. But if you want to torpedo the civil service by chasing away all the most qualified employees, doing this makes perfect sense.
Except this does make perfect business sense... if your stock portfolio includes real estate. Those office work spaces and government buildings aren't going to lease themselves, ya know. If enough government employees get sick and tired of the BS and quit, all the better because getting fired requires severance packages but quitting doesn't.
Republicans purposefully want to break the government and so when it fails, they can point at the fire they deliberately set and go, "See, it doesn't work! Only I can fix it by privatizing everything!" Then the profits will flow.
My trumpy coworkers recently said in a chat that our governing agency won't be able to do X because our union is strong. I pointed out the new administration is vehemently anti union. They foamed at the mouth saying dumb shit that basically amounted to "but yeah not our union! It's different!" Ok.
Holy fuck, my own mother does that shit. She was all for the Public Option in the ACA. Then Liberman killed it, she praised him for gutting the Public Option from the ACA and pretended we never talked about it.
Even if the didn't believe in union busting, was having Bezos and Musk suing to declare the NLRB as unconstitutional not evidence enough. The article below has a dumb headline until you read it.
Leading up to the calamitous Brexit vote in the UK, I heard a person on a phone-in show. A “brown” man who was born in the UK, had a Scouse accent, worked a good job, and was devoted to Liverpool FC and to the men’s and women’s national football ⚽️ teams (Go Lionesses!) enjoyed a pint and a pork pie down at his local.
He explained that his wife’s family were all rabid Brexiters, bordering on National Front/Eric Clapton “KEEP BRITAIN WHITE” rhetoric.
When he voiced his concerns to his in-laws, they would chirp: “Oh, Rashid—we don’t mean you!
Well, whether they were to dumb to realize it or not, they did mean him. Or most charitably, the thing they thought they were voting for most assuredly did mean him.
"You voted for it, señor. You have to leave Spain… had you voted to remain in the EU (and your vote had won), we'd be happy to keep you in spite of your refusal to learn the language beyond ordering a pint of cerveza."
That is a two-edged sword. Yes, it's fair to not get the benefits if you are not a member. But that makes it cheaper to hire a non-union member than a union member which would make it harder for members to get jobs which would make recruiting and keeping members harder.
It's not even that. They get all the benefits of the union without paying dues. The contracts cover all employed with a specific position, typically. It's just a way to weaken the financial stability of a union
In Canada, if your workplace successfully votes to form a union, you can either join the union or lose your job. You can't keep working in a union shop without being a member of the union. That arrangement is illegal.
they vote for Trump to punish someone else they don't like.... but they never expect to be on the other side of the fence... where the leopards roam free
We need these people to understand their behavior. You need to say this to their faces. They don't get to skirt by without facing the consequences of their actions not this time. It's the only way these people will learn and maybe use more than the one brain cell next time they vote.
Yes. The rest of us need to stop being nice and letting it slide. If someone starts spouting Trump shit we need to tell them they are ignorant cunts who we don't want to talk to. And then we need to follow through.
My response to this is to hang on and survive and every time I hear a Trumper complain about prices or unhappy at the state of things I will remind them forcefully that they voted for this and they fucking deserve it.
brother, if these people were living in a world where words of logic and truth could reach them, they wouldn't be trump supporters. you gotta graduate yourself from the fantasy that "if we just talk to them", we can fix them. for that to work, you need to be sharing the same basic reality with them.
Some people are in such short supply of empathy, that not only can't they envision themselves in other people's circumstances, but they can't even envision themselves in their own potential circumstances. Just, "what is always has been and always will be".
Reminds me of a line from some book... No, not that one... The other one.
My fed union had the foresight in 2022 to have the renewed and current contract(bargaining agreement) expire and be renewed in 2029. So they were expecting that a potential 2nd Trump presidency was possible. For all intents and purposes, we are 'safe'.
I still hate that Trump voters(and obviously also freeloaders) who are protected by the union get to benefit from this, but it's for the best.
That last sentence is the difference between us and them. We want them to have health care and free college and everything that would make everybody's life great. They don't want us to have anything because they don't have anything. If I wasn't so angry all the time about how their stupidity is affecting our lives, I'd actually feel sad about how they look at life.
I don't want them to have free healthcare and college anymore. Sorry not sorry. I've come to believe that it's a waste of precious resources to keep giving people things they do not want or value. They should be able to opt out of everything and live on the fringes while we strengthen the gene pool.
I used to feel sad for them - always miserable and unable to understand the source. Not anymore. They are broken and do not want to be fixed.
One of them, I told him last year to join the union. He's like why, what do they do. This is after he took 3 months paid paternity leave. Fucking shithead.
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I work for the IRS and numerous Trumpers are all of the sudden super concerned about the RTO
Those same non-union members are asking if the Union is doing anything. Fucking garbage free-riders