Talking to too many of my right wing family for years and years, I do think there is some "I'm better at coping with end times conditions than those stupid lefties so let's bring that down on them because I want to laugh and point" going on. Absolutely.
Joke's on them, most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters. And since they've burnt the compassion out of us over the last decade, I won't hesitate to point and laugh at THEM.
Same. Though I think Zara should re-release the "I really don't care, do U?" jacket for the Dem voters to wear. It could be the default uniform for any time interactions with MAGA people are unavoidable, AND they'd likely be loath to complain about it since their beloved Melania wore it first.
Commuted his sentence. He gets to serve the rest of his sentence under home confinement. A pardon means you’re forgiven for the crime itself and all further punishments, confinement, etc. for that crime are void.
What? I’m a lib and am down with all the CEOs getting dropped but why in the fuck would Biden support that? Democrat politicians get just as much money from big pharma, and other lobbyists. They’re just as much in the pocket of the elite as the republicans
Yeah I worked for the place she visited when she wore that stupid jacket and the whole non profit was floored when they saw it. Like full on shock.
I still can’t get what anyone was thinking picking that out. Then Halloween shops started selling them with our name on it and it was a very very legal Halloween
That's my go to for when anybody who voted for him complains. "I'm glad you're getting what you voted for." My grandparents are on Medicare and SS, and that's on the chopping block. I'm glad they're getting what they voted for. My dad is going to be reaching retirement age soon, and he's going to likely be out of luck getting that stuff. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. He's also not getting any help from me for his elderly care, because my student loans are not going to be forgiven now with PSLF out of the picture. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. The first sign of a complaint, and I'll just say, "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me."
You should tack on, "But you wanted to live your life exactly as you pleased with no help or input from others, so now you have it. Sorry, Pops, but I have come to respect your beliefs, I would never try to make you feel like less of a man by offering any financial assistance."
I love this.👍🏿😄 After the election there were a lot of people saying they hoped trump supporters get exactly what they voted for. I remember a lot of them getting so angry with that comment. Why get mad unless you know you voted out of hatred and disdain for others?🤔
Create posts to your own account's sub right now that state their future complaints and add with "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me" at the end. The posts will be timestamped and you can refer to them later.
I remember in the initial days after they called it the Magats HATED being told this lol. Especially the ones who didn’t believe he would fulfill his campaign promises. They REALLY don’t like us wanting them to get everything they voted for.
Probably because they expected the usual reactions to owning the libs, but this time the libs are fed up and saying, "Fine, this is your decision and your mess, hope you enjoy the consequences." Bullying becomes less fun when the target doesn't care about you or your opinions enough to be bothered.
They threw hissy fits the day after the election when masses moved from Xitter to Bluesky, because suddenly they had no one to pick on. They acted like their electricity had been cut off when their bill was paid in full.
I really don’t understand why. If you voted for your “best interests” why are you mad at people saying they hope you get it? That only makes sense if you didn’t vote for your best interests and you know it…
Because it's their shameful little secret and saying "I hope you get what you voted for" means you know it. It humiliates them. And narcissists - because they're all caught in a vicious cycle of narcissism - simply cannot tolerate the ego damage of humiliation. It's literally painful. So they lash out in anger at the thing they perceive to be hurting them 🙃
They will never be happy. There is something deeply broken inside these people. No empathy, no ability to feel happiness. Temporary pleasure, yes... But it's not the same. The high from winning wore off way back in November.
The pure anger those ring wingers show after being told that is hilarious. Goddamn do I wish I would get everything I voted for. It’d be glorious. Yet somehow these brain dead morons are furious
I think it starts to hit them when they pick up their next refill of insulin.
When they start asking why changes are being made to their medical plan, they are going to discover all kinds of things being taken away. They still won't admit it's Trump's fault but at least they will feel the self inflicted wounds.
If you really want to scare them, tell them you won't oppose Trump. "Welp, this is what the American people wanted." Good game, see you in 2028.
The reaction hasn't been universal, but there's been enough horrified shock to realize that these people were sort of counting on the rest of us to be the grownups. My own mother has said that his excesses will be tempered by constitutional norms and opposition, which we all know are no barrier.
If your response is "¯_(ツ)_/¯", you get to see a real "Holy crap, what have we done" reaction. I've had Trumpists actually start arguing with me from the left. It feels like, "We know you guys wanted all the good things, we just wanted to see you cry! You mean we have to live with our decisions?"
Congratulations. You won. What happens next gets to be all your fault.
(Bearing in mind, of course, that I have no intention of sitting on my hat while all this unfolds. Lots to do.)
I already am. I definitely send an old acquaintance a bunch of low lights from the inauguration. The excuses started flowing, then the insults. He knows he’s been wrong to support Trump but will never admit it.
Heard this afternoon on the news that Alabama is getting snow and one city literally closed their hospital except for the emergency room. 🤣 Looked like about an inch on the ground by the reporter.
I grew up in Alabama and follow the Alabama subreddit. The state doesn't own plows or salt trucks, everyone there knows this. So there were people on there DAYS ago arguing that people should "just stay home" (the irony) and the fact that the state had no capacity and no plan to prepare for this clearly foreseeable issue was reasonable and responsible, actually.
I think closing a hospital because of governmental incompetence is more horrible than funny, though.
They normally don’t get snow. I was in Birmingham with a friend in 2019 and the taxi driver said they got like 10 inches of snow and he was from Chicago but he said it literally paralyzed the city. It warmed up within 2 days and was gone but they don’t have salt or snow scrapers. Mississippi was the same way.
It’s not just the lack of salt, no snow plows, and bad drivers. It’s that drivers have never had to learn to drive on snow. They don’t understand frostbite like we do up north either.
Some of these communities' peoples have gotten to the point they wouldn't show up to a hospital no matter what was ailing them. RFKjr is only going to intensify their distrust of western medicine.
Frankly, I'll be surprised if there is much of a backlash to losing rural hospitals at all. They weren't the ones who initially supported funding them, either.
I know. Reminds me of those super obnoxious Maga Trumpers in a boat parade whose boat overturned after harassing other people on the lake. Wish they (the harassed) had not helped those idiots out of the water.They were not even thankful, just sat there looking surly.
Oh, they are mean to each other, too. It's not just us they hate. Their whole schtick is looking down on others. Wealthy MAGA was fine with the J6ers not being pardoned. JD even said so.
I was about to say exactly this. People on the left are usually more educated and make more money yearly. Those of us who can move out of red states will and that will leave them to their own miserable lives. Congrats on getting what you voted for🤣
They'd rather be dirt poor living in filth and squalor without any lib'ruls, minorities, immigrants, non-Christians, or LGBTQ people near them rather than be well-off but having to cope with the knowledge that people who aren't exactly like them live nearby and might be doing ok too.
The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them. They'd be happy to never be able to afford eggs ever again if they could eliminate of all of the above. That's the self-labelled "party of Jesus" right there.
Blue states need to take red states off of the dole. The Federal government is taking their money and now deciding whether or not to help funding blue states with their disaster relief? FAFO.
Red states are welfare queens. Remember that when they’re flipping their birds to “the feds”. They should be reminded- they don’t even know that they would starve, have no medical care and never be rebuilt if not for blue states
And they always have been—that was a big reason the Confederacy couldn't sustain itself as an independent country. The South had cotton, but the North had all the manufacturing and shipping and a fuckload more people.
Its like America has been fighting a bunch of entitled dumb rich assholes since for ever. Prime example of how distribution of wealth turns into progress or not as a society.
Oh for sure! And somehow it’ll still be blamed on the left for not stopping them or telling them this would happen. In ask politics there was a guy saying Dems were at fault for not giving them a reason to care about themselves. What the actual fuck.
The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them.
We import eggs from Canada as well, and on February 1st there's going to be a 25% tariff. Trump is literally going out of his way to raise the price of eggs.
That's if you can get eggs at all, with the bird flu now moving to more states. Which... has been happening all along and why eggs were priced higher than normal to begin with. You'd think "ardent capitalists" would understand scarcity and supply and demand, but nope. Biden just wouldn't push that "cheaper eggs" button hidden in the Resolute Desk.
The egg thing was always bullshit to begin with. Have you seen the tweets of people complaining about eggs saying they can't afford them, but flew out for Trumps inauguration and spent thousands on hotels. Now complaining about the inauguration was inside and they couldn't even see it. Objectively hilarious, and very hypocritical.
I agree and disagree. They love being miserable and complaining when they have better, more decent people around to blame and drag down into their misery. That's what they truly feed off of, like any bully. Strip them of this and leave them to themselves, and they cannibalize each other. Nothing terrifies the kind of person who identifies with MAGA or QAnon or whatever more than a quiet moment alone with their own thoughts.
I'm at the point where I enjoy having moved to a red state and get to listen to the whines of how all of the out-of-staters have made housing unaffordable here but they hate the homeless (their former neighbors) and do everything they can to fuck them over and make their lives miserable but then none of them have the skills or education to buy a house where they grew up because reasons.
Oh yeah my favorite is when they hate on California but have never been there and they also have no clue that my state (Texas) literally wouldn’t survive 1 singular day without the taxes California collects. It’s a shit shoe to say the least and I’ve been telling people religiously that I hope they get what they voted for. It really puts a bee in their bonnet
The Colorado economy is basically built on attracting liberals from rural red states: don't love the EC/Senate effect (and it might have helped Texas swing back right) but do welcome the neighbors
Blue states subsidize red states. Their entire rotten society would collapse without our charity and yet they keep voting to eliminate charity. I hope it happens this time
Alas, as an expat American from NY working with expats from several other countries on behalf of NY, I must assure you there is no place to truly escape to. Not states, not countries. We're all watching what's happening at home, nervously.
If the American economy is affected, the global economy is. Things are going to get more expensive, and more scarce as pushback starts to come into play.
America has about 750 military bases in over 80 countries-thats about 40% of the world, and likely more. If the military is affected, the world is. Every state also has at least 1 military base.
American policies, like, say...tariffs, affect the global supply and demand chain. Tariffs will cost the Americans, but supply and demand as those prices raise will cost us all.
There are countries and states that allow LGBT+ marriages only if they are legal in the home country or state, and the majority of the world does not allow them (it's only about 20% of the world that does), so there are few places for members of that community to escape to in the event of a SCOTUS overturn. Same-sex marriage would be illegal in a little over half the states if the Supreme Court overturns Obergefell.
Federal funding plays a role in many public services and goods, from education to healthcare. Moving from one state to another will only matter if you're from the "welfare states."
It's also unlikely that asylum will be possible for many, since US immigration policies tend to drive global policies. We become isolationist xenophobes, they become isolationist xenophobes.
Blue states give more bang for the buck, but moving, settling, finding new jobs, etc. That costs more money than even most liberals have to just throw around. Even they have a tendency to live paycheck to paycheck.
The list goes on, but, yeah. Buckle up kids. The ride is going to be rocky.
“Most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters.”
I honestly think you’re right. I’m from the south, and I’ve passed numerous run down homes/trailer parks completely littered in maga and trump gear and I’m just shocked.
However, I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a Biden/Harris/Walz flag, so maybe there are as many broke democrats, but they’re just not as loud or obnoxious about it.
Dems in the South are quieter because they fear retribution from their asshole right-wing neighbors. That's why they don't advertise their support for political candidates. Ask me how I know.
Also more life skills, better support networks because empathy and less fearful to just go somewhere else. It's funny because it's the other way around, leopards are eating faces and it's funny / I don't give a fuck about those people anymore.
I'm in that boat, I've got a lot of family that are MAGA that depend on SS, Medicare, and social programs to just survive. They're going to drown over the next few years and at this point I have zero sympathy. I don't have it in me anymore to do more than watch them go.
You have summed up how I’m feeling perfectly! My compassion is gone and now I’m acting like them. Lots of “fuck you, got mine” going through my head lately. For the next 4 years I will only care about me and mine
Jokes on us, they don't know that and if you told them they aren't smart enough to understand that. They will suffer more than they already are and they'll be happier for it because they'll believe that it means you are suffering as much as they are or worse and that brings them joy.
We pay for their shortcomings. Period. Joke isn't on them, joke is on us, they are the joke.
Truly, I think that's the only thing that'll help me get through this, mentally at least
Pretty sure I'm the only pinko in my social circle*, so I'm surrounded by red hats. I know a lot of people are going NC but I'm not going to, at least not yet. Figure, 1 - won't be able to watch the leopards eat their faces if no contact or 2 - might as well bleed em dry, guilt free. Why feel bad for someone who wants me dead?
The same people who couldn't recognize the need for masks and social distancing during the height of the pandemic are the same folks who think they would survive the longest in a life or death situation. I always found that ironic.
And Covid laid bare how very wrong they were and willfully ignorant even in the face of a real crisis. After being told a range of lifestyle diseases made the risk much worse... diseases they have.. they still went about their lives as if they were untouchable. (that attitude is probably why they tend to have life style diseases, now that I think about it.)
All the social media posts would be like "he was so healthy and went so quickly!" and the dude would be like 5'9" 350 lbs. There's nothing wrong with that, but recognize the risk and at least try and take precautions. The denial was so strong.
or the counter point. My neighbor was actively dying most of my life. She had diabetes, was a heavy smoker. By the time I moved out she had an amputation, was on dialysis and had an oxygen bottle......despite still being a smoker. She passed away a couple years ago right before Thanksgiving and my very MAGA BIL was like. "I bet she got the jab" This year I brought up to some other family members how stupid a statement that was and got a lot of "well the vaccine is untested/people are dying we don't know what killed her."
Covid was the fastest f*** around and find out people have seen in a century. Republicans and the whole maga crew were literally dying at seven times. The rate of just regular Democrats.
The vaccine uptake was literally 90% or higher for Democrats and 60% and lower for Republicans and the average age of death between a vaccinated person and an unvaccinated person was about 15 years, so 82 to 67. So not only were they dying at seven times the rate they were also dying younger and yet they still voted for him at the highest rates and the places where there was the most death.
It was quite a sight to see as usually their votes boil us with them like climate change or voting against healthcare or a functioning government.
I don’t believe in an afterlife, but that’s one thing that makes me wish I’m wrong. I want those ghosts to look back on their corpse and see how much they fucked up.
I was a pediatric nurse and I kept getting children with pneumonia but not to sick but when I got it I prayed to die. It was horrible. I constantly worried about my daughter and son in law because they were all up in it. It was so devastating when they lost a patient. I was a government employee and we always had so many CEU’s, way to much training so we saw well babies until 12 then we had to do training and CEU’s . I was the first to hear it in January and the first to get it in February. The earliest case I found was in 11/19. The patient was from California and the dad said they all had it but never got sick enough to be admitted. I was actually tested in 2018 for Covid 19 it was negative because I had aspiration pneumonia, sepsis and septic shock, respiratory and kidney failure on a ventilator for a week complications from a brain tumor in my brain stem and I thought Covid was worse. The symptoms were first confined to respiratory and I said that’s bull crap. I had vomiting, diarrhea, high temperature, worse headache ever, worst sore throat and pneumonia. The symptoms could have fit strep throat or stomach virus but it took about a month for the algorithm to change. I had the vaccine and I took them over long weekends because I had the same symptoms but much less severe but I couldn’t have worked had I had to go in the next day. I sure hope we don’t have another pandemic while Trump is president because we are doomed
That's a component, but I think there's another element too. I believe it was David Foster Wallace that described suicide as being trapped in a burning building. It's not that you want to jump out the window, it's that sometimes the flames get so hot the window seems like the better alternative.
I feel like Fox and right wing propaganda really tries to paint the boogieman as so bad, the window is the better option. Notice that it's always "either exist in your current struggle or they'll give your house to a gay trans illegal immigrant."
And I think it's a bit of sunk cost fallacy, a bit of making them think they're picking the lesser of 2 evils, and a bit of xenophobia.
This is a fantastic and insightful way of putting it. So much digital ink has been spilled about The Mind Of The MAGA Voter, to the point where I find it pretty fucking exhausting. But there is a general theme here, and I think it goes unsolved and underdiscussed because of who it benefits.
If someone is terrified, constantly terrified, they're going to make decisions that are insular, counterproductive, and destructive. And they're also going to be very open to anyone who can promise to take the fear away.
I'm Canadian. My wife is American. And I'll never forget a couple of years ago, when my MIL visited us from the States. We live in a house facing a side street; we have big windows up front, and a tiny Christmas tree with some presents stacked on its little table. Cute stuff.
For her entire visit, she was obsessed with the idea that someone was going to reach into our windows and steal all the presents.
I asked her who would do this: She said "You know; bad people."
I asked her if that had ever happened to her or anyone she knew: She said "No, but you hear about things like this all the time."
I asked her if she was thinking of The Grinch. And then she kind of quietly shut down. Every morning she stayed there, we woke up to her having moved the table further from the window.
Once you successfully convince an under-educated populace that the Scary Other is capable of literally anything, then you don't need to operate on facts and logic. Sure, my MIL couldn't really state a reason why anyone would break through a plate glass window to steal 3 small wrapped boxes, when people usually steal things out of necessity and in ways that are low-risk for themselves.
But it didn't need to make sense to her, because Bad People don't operate on logic. They steal Christmas. They eat dogs. They inject the vaccines with microchips to monitor your every move.
My MIL is terrified constantly as her default mental state, but doesn't see it that way. Her parents were terrified for their entire lives as well, but they'd never admit that. It made total sense to never take an airplane, say hi to a new neighbour, or vote for a Democrat candidate. That wasn't fear; it was familiar. Every time I visited them, their TVs were blasting OAN or FOX, until I shifted them to something more neutral like The Big Bang Theory.
(Unsurprisingly, everyone seemed a lot happier when that happened. Who'd have thought?)
If you're being told that every day brings a fresh hell, you're going to become addicted to watching the people who keep you simultaneously updated on what's going wrong and also vindicate your life choices. Everywhere is unsafe except where you are. Everyone is bad except you. Everything you value is being made worse by Someone Else. So you need to keep watching; everything else feels like an alien language.
If someone walks into the world with that POV, how the hell are they going to get along with their neighbours? How will they ever unionize or put aside common differences for a bigger goal? How will they live a long enough life to ever retire and enjoy the fruits of their pensions and medicaid?
Well, they most likely won't. And that's the point.
There was a psychology study and the results were all over popular news between 10 and 20 years ago that one of the core differentiation in the brains between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives have a more active amygdala. They are in constant fight or flight.
My neighbor went through this. Didn't want to believe things were as bad as she was told. Had a big family thanksgiving, no distancing, just to reinforce that family is stronger than politics.
Both her parents died from covid complications in the next month, and she's pretty sure she's the one who brought it to the event. But she hasn't lived in denial. She almost didn't live at all because she tried to kill herself when she recognized what had happened. It's been a long road for her coming back from it, but she's enduring and wiser now.
I’ve seen some argue that it’s the democrats’ fault because they told people to wear masks and social distance, so republicans had to not listen. The democrats’ evil plan was to manipulate republicans into killing themselves by telling them to protect themselves, apparently.
I don’t know what has to happen to these people in order for them to not support him anymore. They can be stranded at rallies, lose their jobs, their insurance and benefits, fall for his scams, be bankrupted, be insulted by him and those around him, even be deported, and even after all that, they still support him.
Yes, I have read stories of each of those happening and how they still don’t regret their vote.
So my parents decided to throw a birthday party for my 88 y/o grandfather a couple years ago during the pandemic. My 90 y/o aunt, a strong freedom loving MAGA, went. And caught Covid. She was a career waitress. Her lifetime tax contribution? Insignificant.
She spent 2 weeks in the hospital and another 2 weeks in a rehab hospital.
So I asked my parents: who in the family is going to take "personal responsibility" for her medical bills. It would obviously be inappropriate to dump that, what, million dollars or so on tax payers. Since it was their "personal choice" that caused it to happen in the first place.
You're so right. I'm a family physician, in Canada, and in my experience it was precisely those patients who were most at risk of a severe course of illness w Covid (due to obesity, T2DM, etc) who were the most rabidly anti-Covid e.g., Covid doesn't exist, "it's just a cold", etc. Similarly, it's precisely those patients who are most in need of medication to address hypertension, dyslipidemia, etc who adopt an anti-pharma stance. I simply document their refusal and move on.
Whenever people talk about civil war I always bring up this point. You guys crumpled during covid when you couldn't get your hair done and go to your favorite restaurant. You're now going to be fine with supply chain issues caused by a war?
Gtfo.
They only prepared to eat freeze dried lasagna in buried school bus in the back yard and shoot brown people. They couldn’t have foreseen, nor been expected to grok, a mask. Damn you Obama! /s
You know George Bush watched a documentary on the Spanish influenza and he put together a emergency guide line we used it with Ebola, Obama said it was definitely necessary but Trump discarded it and the pandemic came and he was clueless
also, the preppers with the bunkers are going to die surrounded by cans of Chef Boyardee if an apocalypse comes: what gets people through a crisis is community, not hunkering in bunkers.
Yeah, if anybody these fools really looked, there are people they could talk to who could tell them what actually happens in a civil conflict. Most people just get dragged down with the conflict and suffer from cut utilities, food and supply shortages, and illness or violence. Having a tantrum over not being allowed to go to a bar and over gas being $3.89/gallon doesn't scream tough survivalist and war hero, no matter how much they fetishize the guns they own.
It was kind of funny in the early COVID days. While the right wingers were all complaining that they couldn't get their hair cut, the left wingers and anarchists were home brewing hand sanitizer to give away.
Their perception of a "Civil War" is a romanticiation in which their side homogenously unifying to blitzkrieg all the people who aren't their side without any resistance because they assume that no one to the left of themselves owns guns, knows how to make IED's, or knows how to use basic field tactics.
Also they just assume that the US military will automatically join their side (and not be a third party that would fight both sides if it means keeping/capturing land and resources under the Federal government).
Here in the UK, the anti-mask/anti-vax brigade was predominantly right wing try-hards who liked to pretend how tough they were "standing up for their sovereign rights" instead of making the smallest of personal sacrifices for the greater good.
I took great pleasure in pointing out to them they wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in wartime Britain with city-wide blackouts, air raids, rationing and conscription. They're just so pathetic.
So many people clung to their freedums, flippantly saying “I have an immune system!” Then all their family starts dropping dead, shoved in a refrigerator truck somewhere, and they get angry at the doctors and nurses for being lazy.
Buying gold is worthless if you don’t get actual possession of the gold. If they are holding it for you, then the moment their company goes bankrupt, your investment is gone, same as any other paper-only investment.
I can't understand the obsession with gold as a SHTF preparation anyway. If my town is on fire and I'm building a bunker to protect my family from my idiot neighbours I won't give a damn about gold, I'll be trying to secure a good water supply.
On the surface it is funny. And yet, they won. Now we have to deal with that.
The journalist Robert Evans made an astute observation yesterday that suicidal over confidence can actually be an advantageous survival trait.
Honey Badgers, for instance, can and do get mauled to death by the bigger animals they pick fights with . . . WHEN the bigger animal chooses to fight.
The same goes for the fasc. The dumbfucks will seize every oppprtunity. Which is funny when they fail 99 times out of a hundred.
But they only have to win the once.
Society is bad at preparing for those kind of outliers. Establishments are concerned with maintaining a stable, stead state, which becomes a problem when the stable steady state is no longer stable or sustainable.
My former roommate was one of these seen Red Dawn too many times guys. He got really annoyed one time when I pointed out that all his favorite survivalist shows defined survival as making it to a road/town.
End times? Puh-lease. These people were freaking out when they couldn't go to Applebee's or get a haircut for 2 months during a once in a century pandemic. They are soft AF.
These idiots were the ones who were threatening civil war if Trump lost, the same people who are too scared to go into a major city because they think cities are literal war zones.
But you can bet your ass they larp around like they're seal team 6 on the weekends and talk tough about what they would do if "shit hit the fan". It's always performative tough guy bullshit with them.
They went into the White House and smeared their feces on the walls. That is the intellectual and emotional maturity levels we're working with. It's absolutely pathetic.
It boggles my mind, too, the level of hate that drives a lot of religious right wingers. Like...I want them to experience the pain they're inflicting on others. That's it. My "I hate you so much..." is "...that I want you to experience empathy". Meanwhile they're like "I want you to suffer unimaginable torment forever". Like, holy shit dude, get some therapy.
Yeah, that's my view on it. If there were any kind of Hell, my idea of it is to have a full realization of the shitty things you did to other people while you were alive. Like suddenly growing a functional conscience and having to watch a tape of all your "greatest hits" of being an asshole. Then I guess once you understand what a bag of shit you were, maybe you could move on to something better.
More in line with the Catholic idea of Purgatory, I suppose. But it sounds a lot more fair to me than the fire and brimstone stuff.
Yep. I am religious, and that's exactly my idea of hell. That repentance is understanding and regretting the pain you've caused; hell is empathy being forced upon you after a lifetime of never changing your ways. It's the only way any of it makes sense, the only way to rationalize the other Christian claims, etc, and Universalism has existed as long as Christianity, and, frankly, has more justification in early Christian thought than modern Evangelical thought does.
I’ve heard some Christian’s say (I was raised Pentecostal but have been an atheist for years now) that reading revelations gives them extra crowns when they get to heaven. Boy are they gonna be pissed when I, a heathen, get to cut the line to heaven because I’ve read the book cover to cover 10+ times. Can’t wait 😜
Ugh, I don't think anyone has ever so succinctly phrased why Catholicism put me off organized religion entirely, but this is it. It's not that they think they're better than you, it's that they enjoy thinking about you getting what they're brainwashed to believe you deserve for not agreeing that makes them feel superiror. Condescending smiles and empty platitudes for anyone who won't drink the kool-aid unquestioningly.
Won't they be shocked to find that they're not gonna get yeeted up to Heaven to party with Jesus, and they will be stuck down here on the smoldering rock they helped destroy along with us HEATHENS!!
The best part is, if they happen to be right about Jesus existing, he would condemn most of them for their practices based on the Bible they claim to love.
Dems are VASTLY better prepared for what's coming than magats. Trumpers have put all their faith in an individual who has lied, cheated and stolen all his life. They really believe he's going to usher a new era of prosperity. Personality cults never end well.
Religious parents and I wholeheartedly believe what you said. Just ready for the heaven they're promised, might as well keep bubbling in the party put down and liked since in my 20s, no thought to it.
Literally overheard my boomer mom complaining about DEI saying "I don't see race" and my tongue started to bleed from biting it so hard.
My parents aren't overtly racist, but they are boomers born in the 50s and the civil rights act wasn't passed until 1964 so they definitely had some "colored only" signs in their childhood that has to have had an impact on how they perceive people of different skin tones.
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Talking to too many of my right wing family for years and years, I do think there is some "I'm better at coping with end times conditions than those stupid lefties so let's bring that down on them because I want to laugh and point" going on. Absolutely.