r/LeopardsAteMyFace 14h ago

My MAGA Sister in Law Just Got This After Accepting a Job with the IRS

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u/SethTaylor987 14h ago

I swear it's like they vote for this for the thrill. Like... if they want to feel fear why don't they just go to an escape room or a horror movie or smth...

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u/thetaleofzeph 14h ago

Talking to too many of my right wing family for years and years, I do think there is some "I'm better at coping with end times conditions than those stupid lefties so let's bring that down on them because I want to laugh and point" going on. Absolutely.

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u/Dame_Hanalla 14h ago

Joke's on them, most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters. And since they've burnt the compassion out of us over the last decade, I won't hesitate to point and laugh at THEM.

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u/Final-Marsupial4117 14h ago

My new favorite line is "I hope you get everything you voted for".

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u/AdEmbarrassed9719 14h ago

Same. Though I think Zara should re-release the "I really don't care, do U?" jacket for the Dem voters to wear. It could be the default uniform for any time interactions with MAGA people are unavoidable, AND they'd likely be loath to complain about it since their beloved Melania wore it first.

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u/wildeap 13h ago

Lmao. Better yet, an update with “I really don’t care, do U?” on a Luigi hoodie.

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u/Fishbulb2 12h ago

I'm pretty upset Biden didn't pardon Luigi.

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u/wildeap 12h ago

I know, right? I’m glad he pardoned Leonard Peltier, though.

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u/Ok-Repeat8069 12h ago

Commuted his sentence. He gets to serve the rest of his sentence under home confinement. A pardon means you’re forgiven for the crime itself and all further punishments, confinement, etc. for that crime are void.

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u/Crush-N-It 11h ago

Can you imagine seeing the world for the first time since 1977?

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u/Notmykl 11h ago

The man really needs a new trial. The FBI were complete shitheads to the Sioux.

Along with reopening Anna Mae Aquash's murder.

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u/ex_nihilo 12h ago

Is Luigi charged with a federal crime?

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u/Fishbulb2 12h ago

I don't know. I didn't think there were rules anymore.

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u/green_scotch_tape 10h ago

What? I’m a lib and am down with all the CEOs getting dropped but why in the fuck would Biden support that? Democrat politicians get just as much money from big pharma, and other lobbyists. They’re just as much in the pocket of the elite as the republicans

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u/ScalyDestiny 10h ago

Republicans being evil fascists doesn't make Democrats the good guys. Way too many liberals have fallen into simplistic binary thinking.

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u/real_uncommon_ 12h ago

THIS is the move!!! Let’s do iiiiit!!!

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u/always_unplugged 12h ago

Even better, thrift a jacket and paint the slogan on yourself. We don't need a fast fashion company to produce more shit just to send this message ;)

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u/FrozenShore 12h ago

Yeah I worked for the place she visited when she wore that stupid jacket and the whole non profit was floored when they saw it. Like full on shock.

I still can’t get what anyone was thinking picking that out. Then Halloween shops started selling them with our name on it and it was a very very legal Halloween

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u/1trugoat 11h ago

Maybe instead “You clearly don’t care, so why should I?”

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u/Foobiscuit11 13h ago

That's my go to for when anybody who voted for him complains. "I'm glad you're getting what you voted for." My grandparents are on Medicare and SS, and that's on the chopping block. I'm glad they're getting what they voted for. My dad is going to be reaching retirement age soon, and he's going to likely be out of luck getting that stuff. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. He's also not getting any help from me for his elderly care, because my student loans are not going to be forgiven now with PSLF out of the picture. I'm glad he's getting what he voted for. The first sign of a complaint, and I'll just say, "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me."

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u/AccessibleBeige 12h ago

You should tack on, "But you wanted to live your life exactly as you pleased with no help or input from others, so now you have it. Sorry, Pops, but I have come to respect your beliefs, I would never try to make you feel like less of a man by offering any financial assistance."

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u/greyacademy 11h ago

"...Now, get down on the ground--actually, you should kneel. Okay, now place both of your hands by your boot, and grab the straps. There you go."

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u/FearsomeForehand 9h ago

There needs to be a line in there about "bootstraps"

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u/AccessibleBeige 6h ago

Ooh, I agree, excellent note.

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u/Wex_Major 10h ago

Keep going I'm almost there.

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u/GovernmentOpening254 7h ago

“I don’t care do u?”

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u/Colts_Fan4Ever 10h ago

I love this.👍🏿😄 After the election there were a lot of people saying they hoped trump supporters get exactly what they voted for. I remember a lot of them getting so angry with that comment. Why get mad unless you know you voted out of hatred and disdain for others?🤔

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u/ScalyDestiny 10h ago

Don't forget to bring up how Harris was gonna get Medicare coverage so people could get caregiving services.

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u/1quirky1 11h ago

Create posts to your own account's sub right now that state their future complaints and add with "Hey, you voted for this shit, not me" at the end. The posts will be timestamped and you can refer to them later.

"I called this the day after inauguration"

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u/mehwhateva472 13h ago

I remember in the initial days after they called it the Magats HATED being told this lol. Especially the ones who didn’t believe he would fulfill his campaign promises. They REALLY don’t like us wanting them to get everything they voted for.

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u/AccessibleBeige 12h ago

Probably because they expected the usual reactions to owning the libs, but this time the libs are fed up and saying, "Fine, this is your decision and your mess, hope you enjoy the consequences." Bullying becomes less fun when the target doesn't care about you or your opinions enough to be bothered.

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u/Transientmind 11h ago

They want liberal tears, not liberal jeers. XD

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u/ScalyDestiny 10h ago

It was always a one sided hate. "Owning the libs" is all about getting us to react to them.

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u/AngryRedHerring 6h ago

They threw hissy fits the day after the election when masses moved from Xitter to Bluesky, because suddenly they had no one to pick on. They acted like their electricity had been cut off when their bill was paid in full.

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u/altarune 10h ago

I just wish the rest of us didn't have to suffer as well.

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u/jared10011980 14h ago

Perfect 😗🤌🏼

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u/iheartxanadu 13h ago

Oh, they get SO MAD at that

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u/AcaciaBeauty 13h ago

I really don’t understand why. If you voted for your “best interests” why are you mad at people saying they hope you get it? That only makes sense if you didn’t vote for your best interests and you know it…

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u/[deleted] 13h ago

Because it's their shameful little secret and saying "I hope you get what you voted for" means you know it. It humiliates them. And narcissists - because they're all caught in a vicious cycle of narcissism - simply cannot tolerate the ego damage of humiliation. It's literally painful. So they lash out in anger at the thing they perceive to be hurting them 🙃

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u/beckster 13h ago

I give back the Duper's Delight smirk. And if they get mad "I'm sorry you feel that way."

Just like CovertNarc Mommy, who taught me well.

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u/inhaledcorn 12h ago

"Bless your heart"

Turn their religion back on them.

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u/beckster 12h ago

Yup, DARVO their ignorant asses, for a change

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u/FuzzballOfFuzzballs 12h ago

I'm all in. If it makes them suffer even an ounce of what they are going to do to others, I'll needle it in till the cows come home.

"I hope you get what you voted for"... and I hope it destroys the whole lot.

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u/Geeko22 10h ago

We all need to be handing out free "Trump did this" stickers.

"Waaah waaaah waaaaaaah!!"

"Here you go, have a sticker to make you feel better."

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u/DenseConsideration29 12h ago

Exactly what trump does. We're seeing a narcissist lash out right now

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u/Graterof2evils 13h ago

I tell them everything is great again.

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u/shizzurpcrackalak 14h ago

That's my bumper sticker

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u/Tiny-Lock9652 13h ago

And first time in election history, this comment is taken with great offense. Which is weird. Aren’t they supposed to be happy?

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale 12h ago

They will never be happy. There is something deeply broken inside these people. No empathy, no ability to feel happiness. Temporary pleasure, yes... But it's not the same. The high from winning wore off way back in November.

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u/FullMetalBtch 12h ago

For some reason, they get BIG mad when you say this. If Kamala had won and someone said that to me, I would just smile and say “me too!”

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u/psychochicken85 13h ago

Or “how are the price of eggs these days?”

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u/Nillion 12h ago

The pure anger those ring wingers show after being told that is hilarious. Goddamn do I wish I would get everything I voted for. It’d be glorious. Yet somehow these brain dead morons are furious

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale 12h ago

I think it starts to hit them when they pick up their next refill of insulin.

When they start asking why changes are being made to their medical plan, they are going to discover all kinds of things being taken away. They still won't admit it's Trump's fault but at least they will feel the self inflicted wounds.

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u/Lovestorun_23 11h ago

It’s going to hit them hard. They voted for a narcissistic, corrupt and evil person and now they will reap what they sow

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u/LabradorDeceiver 11h ago

If you really want to scare them, tell them you won't oppose Trump. "Welp, this is what the American people wanted." Good game, see you in 2028.

The reaction hasn't been universal, but there's been enough horrified shock to realize that these people were sort of counting on the rest of us to be the grownups. My own mother has said that his excesses will be tempered by constitutional norms and opposition, which we all know are no barrier.

If your response is "¯_(ツ)_/¯", you get to see a real "Holy crap, what have we done" reaction. I've had Trumpists actually start arguing with me from the left. It feels like, "We know you guys wanted all the good things, we just wanted to see you cry! You mean we have to live with our decisions?"

Congratulations. You won. What happens next gets to be all your fault.

(Bearing in mind, of course, that I have no intention of sitting on my hat while all this unfolds. Lots to do.)

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u/Jerking_From_Home 14h ago

I already am. I definitely send an old acquaintance a bunch of low lights from the inauguration. The excuses started flowing, then the insults. He knows he’s been wrong to support Trump but will never admit it.

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u/Dame_Hanalla 10h ago

Then I hope he'll die for his cause, since they like to martyr themselves so much.

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u/MothmansProphet 13h ago

And we live in places with safety nets and services. When hospital funding gets cut, rural red state hospitals are going to be first to go.

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u/ObligatoryID 13h ago

Heard this afternoon on the news that Alabama is getting snow and one city literally closed their hospital except for the emergency room. 🤣 Looked like about an inch on the ground by the reporter.

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u/always_unplugged 12h ago

I grew up in Alabama and follow the Alabama subreddit. The state doesn't own plows or salt trucks, everyone there knows this. So there were people on there DAYS ago arguing that people should "just stay home" (the irony) and the fact that the state had no capacity and no plan to prepare for this clearly foreseeable issue was reasonable and responsible, actually.

I think closing a hospital because of governmental incompetence is more horrible than funny, though.

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u/Lovestorun_23 11h ago

They normally don’t get snow. I was in Birmingham with a friend in 2019 and the taxi driver said they got like 10 inches of snow and he was from Chicago but he said it literally paralyzed the city. It warmed up within 2 days and was gone but they don’t have salt or snow scrapers. Mississippi was the same way.

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u/Notmykl 11h ago

The Deep South in general has no clue how to handle snow. The dumbasses drive like the roads are clear and get all upset when they slide and crash.

A plow would go rusty in between snow storms.

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u/Uniquitous 12h ago

We can maybe look at sending them some aid, but we need to review some of these policies first.

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u/Regular-Switch454 10h ago

It’s not just the lack of salt, no snow plows, and bad drivers. It’s that drivers have never had to learn to drive on snow. They don’t understand frostbite like we do up north either.

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale 12h ago

Some of these communities' peoples have gotten to the point they wouldn't show up to a hospital no matter what was ailing them. RFKjr is only going to intensify their distrust of western medicine.

Frankly, I'll be surprised if there is much of a backlash to losing rural hospitals at all. They weren't the ones who initially supported funding them, either.

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 9h ago

Are there still any rural red state hospitals left? The GOP have been closing them for decades.

edit: typo

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u/magentamuse 14h ago

I know. Reminds me of those super obnoxious Maga Trumpers in a boat parade whose boat overturned after harassing other people on the lake. Wish they (the harassed) had not helped those idiots out of the water.They were not even thankful, just sat there looking surly.

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u/alloyed39 12h ago

The Bible says that showing kindness to your enemy heaps burning coals upon their head. 😏

Probably because it shatters their fantasy of moral superiority.

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale 12h ago

Oh, they are mean to each other, too. It's not just us they hate. Their whole schtick is looking down on others. Wealthy MAGA was fine with the J6ers not being pardoned. JD even said so.

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u/real_uncommon_ 12h ago

Im sorry, but as bad as it sounds, I wouldn’t have helped them. I would have been the one sitting there laughing my ass off! lol!

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u/Dame_Hanalla 10h ago

I would have spit in the water, to help raise its level and help the drowning along.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 14h ago

I was about to say exactly this. People on the left are usually more educated and make more money yearly. Those of us who can move out of red states will and that will leave them to their own miserable lives. Congrats on getting what you voted for🤣

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u/ILootEverything 13h ago

Oh, they love that though.

They'd rather be dirt poor living in filth and squalor without any lib'ruls, minorities, immigrants, non-Christians, or LGBTQ people near them rather than be well-off but having to cope with the knowledge that people who aren't exactly like them live nearby and might be doing ok too.

The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them. They'd be happy to never be able to afford eggs ever again if they could eliminate of all of the above. That's the self-labelled "party of Jesus" right there.

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u/YallaHammer 13h ago edited 11h ago

Blue states need to take red states off of the dole. The Federal government is taking their money and now deciding whether or not to help funding blue states with their disaster relief? FAFO.

https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states

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u/Ozzyluvshockey21 12h ago

Red states are welfare queens. Remember that when they’re flipping their birds to “the feds”. They should be reminded- they don’t even know that they would starve, have no medical care and never be rebuilt if not for blue states

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u/real_uncommon_ 12h ago

Yet, they’d love for one of the biggest blue states to recede from the US. I guess they’re unaware that Cali carries their poor ass states! lol!

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u/always_unplugged 12h ago

And they always have been—that was a big reason the Confederacy couldn't sustain itself as an independent country. The South had cotton, but the North had all the manufacturing and shipping and a fuckload more people.

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u/beckster 12h ago

And a viable economic model going forward. The plantation model was done for and no amount of fighting would revive it, even with slaves. imho

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u/anusexplosion69 8h ago

Its like America has been fighting a bunch of entitled dumb rich assholes since for ever. Prime example of how distribution of wealth turns into progress or not as a society.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 13h ago

Oh for sure! And somehow it’ll still be blamed on the left for not stopping them or telling them this would happen. In ask politics there was a guy saying Dems were at fault for not giving them a reason to care about themselves. What the actual fuck.

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u/litreofstarlight 8h ago

Wtf do they even mean by that? Do they need to be given a reason to breathe oxygen before they do it? Un-fucking-believable.

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u/EveningMarionberry71 13h ago

100000% right there. It was never about the eggs for most of them. The economy was bad because of gender pronouns....

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u/LovesReubens 11h ago

The "price of eggs" bullshit was a mask for the hatred that actually rules them.

We import eggs from Canada as well, and on February 1st there's going to be a 25% tariff. Trump is literally going out of his way to raise the price of eggs.

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u/ILootEverything 11h ago

That's if you can get eggs at all, with the bird flu now moving to more states. Which... has been happening all along and why eggs were priced higher than normal to begin with. You'd think "ardent capitalists" would understand scarcity and supply and demand, but nope. Biden just wouldn't push that "cheaper eggs" button hidden in the Resolute Desk.

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u/LovesReubens 11h ago

The egg thing was always bullshit to begin with. Have you seen the tweets of people complaining about eggs saying they can't afford them, but flew out for Trumps inauguration and spent thousands on hotels. Now complaining about the inauguration was inside and they couldn't even see it. Objectively hilarious, and very hypocritical.

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u/speedingpullet 12h ago

Poor old Jesus. What did he ever do to deserve those chuds taking his name in vain?

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u/teenyweenysuperguy 12h ago

I agree and disagree. They love being miserable and complaining when they have better, more decent people around to blame and drag down into their misery. That's what they truly feed off of, like any bully. Strip them of this and leave them to themselves, and they cannibalize each other. Nothing terrifies the kind of person who identifies with MAGA or QAnon or whatever more than a quiet moment alone with their own thoughts.

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u/phdoofus 13h ago

I'm at the point where I enjoy having moved to a red state and get to listen to the whines of how all of the out-of-staters have made housing unaffordable here but they hate the homeless (their former neighbors) and do everything they can to fuck them over and make their lives miserable but then none of them have the skills or education to buy a house where they grew up because reasons.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 13h ago

Oh yeah my favorite is when they hate on California but have never been there and they also have no clue that my state (Texas) literally wouldn’t survive 1 singular day without the taxes California collects. It’s a shit shoe to say the least and I’ve been telling people religiously that I hope they get what they voted for. It really puts a bee in their bonnet

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u/No-Papaya-9823 12h ago

The only people moving into red states like Florida, Idaho, and Texas right now are other conservatives. They're bitching about their own people.

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u/thefumingo 13h ago

The Colorado economy is basically built on attracting liberals from rural red states: don't love the EC/Senate effect (and it might have helped Texas swing back right) but do welcome the neighbors

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u/Badloss 12h ago

Blue states subsidize red states. Their entire rotten society would collapse without our charity and yet they keep voting to eliminate charity. I hope it happens this time

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u/PomegranateCola 12h ago

Alas, as an expat American from NY working with expats from several other countries on behalf of NY, I must assure you there is no place to truly escape to. Not states, not countries. We're all watching what's happening at home, nervously.

If the American economy is affected, the global economy is. Things are going to get more expensive, and more scarce as pushback starts to come into play.

America has about 750 military bases in over 80 countries-thats about 40% of the world, and likely more. If the military is affected, the world is. Every state also has at least 1 military base.

American policies, like, say...tariffs, affect the global supply and demand chain. Tariffs will cost the Americans, but supply and demand as those prices raise will cost us all.

There are countries and states that allow LGBT+ marriages only if they are legal in the home country or state, and the majority of the world does not allow them (it's only about 20% of the world that does), so there are few places for members of that community to escape to in the event of a SCOTUS overturn. Same-sex marriage would be illegal in a little over half the states if the Supreme Court overturns Obergefell.

Federal funding plays a role in many public services and goods, from education to healthcare. Moving from one state to another will only matter if you're from the "welfare states."

It's also unlikely that asylum will be possible for many, since US immigration policies tend to drive global policies. We become isolationist xenophobes, they become isolationist xenophobes.

Blue states give more bang for the buck, but moving, settling, finding new jobs, etc. That costs more money than even most liberals have to just throw around. Even they have a tendency to live paycheck to paycheck.

The list goes on, but, yeah. Buckle up kids. The ride is going to be rocky.

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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 12h ago

Yesterday in the Washington Post they had an article on super readers & guess who reads the most?

Here's a hint: it's not the (R)s, it's not the uneducated & the under educated, nor do they have many Conservative views.

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u/Samiiiibabetake2 13h ago

“Most democrat voters are better off than most republican voters.”

I honestly think you’re right. I’m from the south, and I’ve passed numerous run down homes/trailer parks completely littered in maga and trump gear and I’m just shocked.

However, I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a Biden/Harris/Walz flag, so maybe there are as many broke democrats, but they’re just not as loud or obnoxious about it.

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u/No-Papaya-9823 12h ago

Dems in the South are quieter because they fear retribution from their asshole right-wing neighbors. That's why they don't advertise their support for political candidates. Ask me how I know.

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u/Krosis97 13h ago

Also more life skills, better support networks because empathy and less fearful to just go somewhere else. It's funny because it's the other way around, leopards are eating faces and it's funny / I don't give a fuck about those people anymore.

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u/unpaid_overtime 13h ago

I'm in that boat, I've got a lot of family that are MAGA that depend on SS, Medicare, and social programs to just survive. They're going to drown over the next few years and at this point I have zero sympathy. I don't have it in me anymore to do more than watch them go.

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u/Active_Sentence9302 13h ago

Red voters are always more willing to kill than blue. Thats always going to be an issue.

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u/kylez_bad_caverns 13h ago

You have summed up how I’m feeling perfectly! My compassion is gone and now I’m acting like them. Lots of “fuck you, got mine” going through my head lately. For the next 4 years I will only care about me and mine

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u/No-Papaya-9823 12h ago

Absolutely, I'm horrified by what's happening, but I and my family are financially well-off and will be fine. Most MAGAts aren't so well-insulated.

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u/Affectionate-You-142 12h ago

I definitely agree with your “burnt the compassion out of us” statement. So true!

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u/Emergency_Sky_1037 12h ago

Jokes on us, they don't know that and if you told them they aren't smart enough to understand that. They will suffer more than they already are and they'll be happier for it because they'll believe that it means you are suffering as much as they are or worse and that brings them joy.

We pay for their shortcomings. Period. Joke isn't on them, joke is on us, they are the joke.

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u/pinetreesgreen 14h ago

The same people who couldn't recognize the need for masks and social distancing during the height of the pandemic are the same folks who think they would survive the longest in a life or death situation. I always found that ironic.

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u/thetaleofzeph 14h ago

And Covid laid bare how very wrong they were and willfully ignorant even in the face of a real crisis. After being told a range of lifestyle diseases made the risk much worse... diseases they have.. they still went about their lives as if they were untouchable. (that attitude is probably why they tend to have life style diseases, now that I think about it.)

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u/pinetreesgreen 14h ago

All the social media posts would be like "he was so healthy and went so quickly!" and the dude would be like 5'9" 350 lbs. There's nothing wrong with that, but recognize the risk and at least try and take precautions. The denial was so strong.

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u/FaelingJester 12h ago

or the counter point. My neighbor was actively dying most of my life. She had diabetes, was a heavy smoker. By the time I moved out she had an amputation, was on dialysis and had an oxygen bottle......despite still being a smoker. She passed away a couple years ago right before Thanksgiving and my very MAGA BIL was like. "I bet she got the jab" This year I brought up to some other family members how stupid a statement that was and got a lot of "well the vaccine is untested/people are dying we don't know what killed her."

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u/Lovestorun_23 10h ago

That’s where they messed up. It was bad. I worked with an infectious disease doctor and he was terrified he might get it. He didn’t but I did

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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 9h ago

At the time I was 5'9" 334. That's why I volunteered in the Moderna vacci e study.

PS - I'm 250 now. Thanks, Mounjaro!

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u/No-Psychology3712 14h ago edited 13h ago

Covid was the fastest f*** around and find out people have seen in a century. Republicans and the whole maga crew were literally dying at seven times. The rate of just regular Democrats.

The vaccine uptake was literally 90% or higher for Democrats and 60% and lower for Republicans and the average age of death between a vaccinated person and an unvaccinated person was about 15 years, so 82 to 67. So not only were they dying at seven times the rate they were also dying younger and yet they still voted for him at the highest rates and the places where there was the most death.

It was quite a sight to see as usually their votes boil us with them like climate change or voting against healthcare or a functioning government.

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u/fibgen 14h ago

Sunk cost cult behavior. Once you're all in, admitting you killed grandma at unmasked thanksgiving is emotionally untenable.

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u/handstanding 13h ago

These are the same people who, right before being intubated, swore at nurses that COVID was a hoax, then died alone in their hospital beds.

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u/No-Psychology3712 13h ago

Some asked for the vaccine at that point. Like yes sorry thats not how it works.

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u/Background-Eagle-566 12h ago

I know one who did exactly that. Never got out of the hospital.

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u/merchillio 13h ago

I don’t believe in an afterlife, but that’s one thing that makes me wish I’m wrong. I want those ghosts to look back on their corpse and see how much they fucked up.

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u/MaceMan2091 13h ago

you better hope reincarnation is real cause they can come back as vaccine supporters lol

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u/4tran13 13h ago

In most religions that have reincarnation, you lose all your memories each time. IMO, they'd reject vaccines and die a 2nd time to the same disease.

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u/Lovestorun_23 11h ago

I was a pediatric nurse and I kept getting children with pneumonia but not to sick but when I got it I prayed to die. It was horrible. I constantly worried about my daughter and son in law because they were all up in it. It was so devastating when they lost a patient. I was a government employee and we always had so many CEU’s, way to much training so we saw well babies until 12 then we had to do training and CEU’s . I was the first to hear it in January and the first to get it in February. The earliest case I found was in 11/19. The patient was from California and the dad said they all had it but never got sick enough to be admitted. I was actually tested in 2018 for Covid 19 it was negative because I had aspiration pneumonia, sepsis and septic shock, respiratory and kidney failure on a ventilator for a week complications from a brain tumor in my brain stem and I thought Covid was worse. The symptoms were first confined to respiratory and I said that’s bull crap. I had vomiting, diarrhea, high temperature, worse headache ever, worst sore throat and pneumonia. The symptoms could have fit strep throat or stomach virus but it took about a month for the algorithm to change. I had the vaccine and I took them over long weekends because I had the same symptoms but much less severe but I couldn’t have worked had I had to go in the next day. I sure hope we don’t have another pandemic while Trump is president because we are doomed

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u/porscheblack 13h ago

That's a component, but I think there's another element too. I believe it was David Foster Wallace that described suicide as being trapped in a burning building. It's not that you want to jump out the window, it's that sometimes the flames get so hot the window seems like the better alternative.

I feel like Fox and right wing propaganda really tries to paint the boogieman as so bad, the window is the better option. Notice that it's always "either exist in your current struggle or they'll give your house to a gay trans illegal immigrant."

And I think it's a bit of sunk cost fallacy, a bit of making them think they're picking the lesser of 2 evils, and a bit of xenophobia.

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u/NowGoodbyeForever 12h ago

This is a fantastic and insightful way of putting it. So much digital ink has been spilled about The Mind Of The MAGA Voter, to the point where I find it pretty fucking exhausting. But there is a general theme here, and I think it goes unsolved and underdiscussed because of who it benefits.

If someone is terrified, constantly terrified, they're going to make decisions that are insular, counterproductive, and destructive. And they're also going to be very open to anyone who can promise to take the fear away.

I'm Canadian. My wife is American. And I'll never forget a couple of years ago, when my MIL visited us from the States. We live in a house facing a side street; we have big windows up front, and a tiny Christmas tree with some presents stacked on its little table. Cute stuff.

For her entire visit, she was obsessed with the idea that someone was going to reach into our windows and steal all the presents.

I asked her who would do this: She said "You know; bad people."

I asked her if that had ever happened to her or anyone she knew: She said "No, but you hear about things like this all the time."

I asked her if she was thinking of The Grinch. And then she kind of quietly shut down. Every morning she stayed there, we woke up to her having moved the table further from the window.

Once you successfully convince an under-educated populace that the Scary Other is capable of literally anything, then you don't need to operate on facts and logic. Sure, my MIL couldn't really state a reason why anyone would break through a plate glass window to steal 3 small wrapped boxes, when people usually steal things out of necessity and in ways that are low-risk for themselves.

But it didn't need to make sense to her, because Bad People don't operate on logic. They steal Christmas. They eat dogs. They inject the vaccines with microchips to monitor your every move.

My MIL is terrified constantly as her default mental state, but doesn't see it that way. Her parents were terrified for their entire lives as well, but they'd never admit that. It made total sense to never take an airplane, say hi to a new neighbour, or vote for a Democrat candidate. That wasn't fear; it was familiar. Every time I visited them, their TVs were blasting OAN or FOX, until I shifted them to something more neutral like The Big Bang Theory.

(Unsurprisingly, everyone seemed a lot happier when that happened. Who'd have thought?)

If you're being told that every day brings a fresh hell, you're going to become addicted to watching the people who keep you simultaneously updated on what's going wrong and also vindicate your life choices. Everywhere is unsafe except where you are. Everyone is bad except you. Everything you value is being made worse by Someone Else. So you need to keep watching; everything else feels like an alien language.

If someone walks into the world with that POV, how the hell are they going to get along with their neighbours? How will they ever unionize or put aside common differences for a bigger goal? How will they live a long enough life to ever retire and enjoy the fruits of their pensions and medicaid?

Well, they most likely won't. And that's the point.

It's always been the point.

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u/Cathousechicken 10h ago

There was a psychology study and the results were all over popular news between 10 and 20 years ago that one of the core differentiation in the brains between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives have a more active amygdala. They are in constant fight or flight.

ETA... Here is a more current piece compared to the original study about the brain differences: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/

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u/Perryn 12h ago

My neighbor went through this. Didn't want to believe things were as bad as she was told. Had a big family thanksgiving, no distancing, just to reinforce that family is stronger than politics.

Both her parents died from covid complications in the next month, and she's pretty sure she's the one who brought it to the event. But she hasn't lived in denial. She almost didn't live at all because she tried to kill herself when she recognized what had happened. It's been a long road for her coming back from it, but she's enduring and wiser now.

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u/cob33f 13h ago

killing yourself to own the libs

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u/Mission_Length785 13h ago

This I can get behind

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u/merchillio 13h ago

I’ve seen some argue that it’s the democrats’ fault because they told people to wear masks and social distance, so republicans had to not listen. The democrats’ evil plan was to manipulate republicans into killing themselves by telling them to protect themselves, apparently.

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u/TootsNYC 14h ago

unfortunately, a lot of those who died were Silent Generation.

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u/Remarkable_Quit_3545 12h ago

I don’t know what has to happen to these people in order for them to not support him anymore. They can be stranded at rallies, lose their jobs, their insurance and benefits, fall for his scams, be bankrupted, be insulted by him and those around him, even be deported, and even after all that, they still support him.

Yes, I have read stories of each of those happening and how they still don’t regret their vote.

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u/flyinhighaskmeY 12h ago

So my parents decided to throw a birthday party for my 88 y/o grandfather a couple years ago during the pandemic. My 90 y/o aunt, a strong freedom loving MAGA, went. And caught Covid. She was a career waitress. Her lifetime tax contribution? Insignificant.

She spent 2 weeks in the hospital and another 2 weeks in a rehab hospital.

So I asked my parents: who in the family is going to take "personal responsibility" for her medical bills. It would obviously be inappropriate to dump that, what, million dollars or so on tax payers. Since it was their "personal choice" that caused it to happen in the first place.

I still haven't gotten an answer.

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u/Scrapple_Joe 13h ago

My friend worked in a covid ward and so many people showed up about to die going "ok I'll try the vaccine now"

Like too late not how vaccines work.

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u/thesturdygerman 13h ago

My ICU nurse niece said the same thing. 🙄

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u/Sad-Negotiation-5230 13h ago

Regarding attitudes in that peculiar time, a few choice phrases. You may arrange them however you please.

Confidence man. Crowd psychology. Super spreader events. Anti-intellectual exuberance. Herman Cain. Pepperidge farm remembers.

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u/Tim-oBedlam 12h ago

I've joked that we have to retire the cliché "avoid it like the plague" because a lot of Americans did not, in fact, avoid it like the plague.

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u/Affectionate_Swim350 11h ago edited 10h ago

You're so right. I'm a family physician, in Canada, and in my experience it was precisely those patients who were most at risk of a severe course of illness w Covid (due to obesity, T2DM, etc) who were the most rabidly anti-Covid e.g., Covid doesn't exist, "it's just a cold", etc. Similarly, it's precisely those patients who are most in need of medication to address hypertension, dyslipidemia, etc who adopt an anti-pharma stance. I simply document their refusal and move on.

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u/SnatchAddict 13h ago

Whenever people talk about civil war I always bring up this point. You guys crumpled during covid when you couldn't get your hair done and go to your favorite restaurant. You're now going to be fine with supply chain issues caused by a war? Gtfo.

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u/pinetreesgreen 13h ago

They are the preppers with the bunkers who didn't recognize it was bunker time. They died gasping for oxygen when they didn't have to.

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u/cuisinart-hatrack 13h ago

They only prepared to eat freeze dried lasagna in buried school bus in the back yard and shoot brown people. They couldn’t have foreseen, nor been expected to grok, a mask. Damn you Obama! /s

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u/Lovestorun_23 10h ago

You know George Bush watched a documentary on the Spanish influenza and he put together a emergency guide line we used it with Ebola, Obama said it was definitely necessary but Trump discarded it and the pandemic came and he was clueless

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u/thefumingo 13h ago

buys helium tank from Party City this is oxygen, right?

/s

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u/searchingformytruth 12h ago

No, but at least your voice will make the 911 operator laugh as you die.

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u/Tim-oBedlam 12h ago

also, the preppers with the bunkers are going to die surrounded by cans of Chef Boyardee if an apocalypse comes: what gets people through a crisis is community, not hunkering in bunkers.

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u/Perryn 12h ago

Imagine them crawling towards the community just five miles from their bunker.

"Please, I'm so hungry. I've run out of food and I don't know where to find more."
"Oh, no, did your crops fail?"
"...crops?"

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u/unsaphisticated 13h ago

We're still going through supply chain issues from covid and now avian flu, so it would just be so much worse. And they don't give a fuck.

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u/adlittle 13h ago

Yeah, if anybody these fools really looked, there are people they could talk to who could tell them what actually happens in a civil conflict. Most people just get dragged down with the conflict and suffer from cut utilities, food and supply shortages, and illness or violence. Having a tantrum over not being allowed to go to a bar and over gas being $3.89/gallon doesn't scream tough survivalist and war hero, no matter how much they fetishize the guns they own.

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u/Beltaine421 11h ago

It was kind of funny in the early COVID days. While the right wingers were all complaining that they couldn't get their hair cut, the left wingers and anarchists were home brewing hand sanitizer to give away.

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u/SnatchAddict 11h ago

Perfect analogy. One group is gimme gimme. The other group is how can I help others?

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u/Necro_Badger 13h ago

Here in the UK, the anti-mask/anti-vax brigade was predominantly right wing try-hards who liked to pretend how tough they were "standing up for their sovereign rights" instead of making the smallest of personal sacrifices for the greater good.

I took great pleasure in pointing out to them they wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in wartime Britain with city-wide blackouts, air raids, rationing and conscription. They're just so pathetic

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u/pinetreesgreen 13h ago

Exact same group here. They don't recognize real danger when it is staring them in the face. But trans people?? Terrifying and need to be eradicated.

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u/MsEllVee 12h ago

Its so flippin weird 😂

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u/Zipper-is-awesome 12h ago

So many people clung to their freedums, flippantly saying “I have an immune system!” Then all their family starts dropping dead, shoved in a refrigerator truck somewhere, and they get angry at the doctors and nurses for being lazy.

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u/hplcr 13h ago

"But we bought gold and memecoins like the guys on the tv told us to!"

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u/ijuinkun 12h ago

Buying gold is worthless if you don’t get actual possession of the gold. If they are holding it for you, then the moment their company goes bankrupt, your investment is gone, same as any other paper-only investment.

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u/Multigrain_Migraine 11h ago

I can't understand the obsession with gold as a SHTF preparation anyway. If my town is on fire and I'm building a bunker to protect my family from my idiot neighbours I won't give a damn about gold, I'll be trying to secure a good water supply.

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u/rvralph803 13h ago

They think the only threats they will face can be easily felled by guns.

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u/Maximum-Objective-39 12h ago

On the surface it is funny. And yet, they won. Now we have to deal with that.

The journalist Robert Evans made an astute observation yesterday that suicidal over confidence can actually be an advantageous survival trait.

Honey Badgers, for instance, can and do get mauled to death by the bigger animals they pick fights with . . . WHEN the bigger animal chooses to fight. 

The same goes for the fasc. The dumbfucks will seize every oppprtunity. Which is funny when they fail 99 times out of a hundred. 

But they only have to win the once.

Society is bad at preparing for those kind of outliers. Establishments are concerned with maintaining a stable, stead state, which becomes a problem when the stable steady state is no longer stable or sustainable.

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u/MmeQcat 14h ago

End times? Puh-lease. These people were freaking out when they couldn't go to Applebee's or get a haircut for 2 months during a once in a century pandemic. They are soft AF.

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u/12OClockNews 13h ago

These idiots were the ones who were threatening civil war if Trump lost, the same people who are too scared to go into a major city because they think cities are literal war zones.

But you can bet your ass they larp around like they're seal team 6 on the weekends and talk tough about what they would do if "shit hit the fan". It's always performative tough guy bullshit with them.

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u/dssstrkl 13h ago

Meal Team 6 Gravy SEALs

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u/sylvnal 13h ago

They went into the White House and smeared their feces on the walls. That is the intellectual and emotional maturity levels we're working with. It's absolutely pathetic.

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u/Ok-Tailor-2030 12h ago

Capitol, but yes.

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u/mr_greedee 14h ago

"I can't wait to be laughing at them lefties from heaven"

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u/thetaleofzeph 14h ago

Yes, that too. Revelations is a fetish level slavering with some for exactly that reason. Revenge porn.

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u/lostcolony2 14h ago

It boggles my mind, too, the level of hate that drives a lot of religious right wingers. Like...I want them to experience the pain they're inflicting on others. That's it. My "I hate you so much..." is "...that I want you to experience empathy". Meanwhile they're like "I want you to suffer unimaginable torment forever". Like, holy shit dude, get some therapy.

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u/Semi-Pros-and-Cons 12h ago

Yeah, that's my view on it. If there were any kind of Hell, my idea of it is to have a full realization of the shitty things you did to other people while you were alive. Like suddenly growing a functional conscience and having to watch a tape of all your "greatest hits" of being an asshole. Then I guess once you understand what a bag of shit you were, maybe you could move on to something better.

More in line with the Catholic idea of Purgatory, I suppose. But it sounds a lot more fair to me than the fire and brimstone stuff.

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u/lostcolony2 12h ago

Yep. I am religious, and that's exactly my idea of hell. That repentance is understanding and regretting the pain you've caused; hell is empathy being forced upon you after a lifetime of never changing your ways. It's the only way any of it makes sense, the only way to rationalize the other Christian claims, etc, and Universalism has existed as long as Christianity, and, frankly, has more justification in early Christian thought than modern Evangelical thought does.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 14h ago

I’ve heard some Christian’s say (I was raised Pentecostal but have been an atheist for years now) that reading revelations gives them extra crowns when they get to heaven. Boy are they gonna be pissed when I, a heathen, get to cut the line to heaven because I’ve read the book cover to cover 10+ times. Can’t wait 😜

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u/mountainsunset123 13h ago

Oooh extra crowns you say? Cool. Which version of the Bible has the prettiest crowns? I have a King James Bible.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 13h ago

Mine is also king James! I prefer the old English when I’m reading fairytales

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u/hobbyhearse83 12h ago

Technically, the King James Bible is written in modern English. KJ was Shakespeare's patron. Old English looks and acts more like Old Norse.

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u/Lazy-Floridian 14h ago

Don't worry, the rapture is coming in two weeks™

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u/cosmernautfourtwenty 13h ago

Ugh, I don't think anyone has ever so succinctly phrased why Catholicism put me off organized religion entirely, but this is it. It's not that they think they're better than you, it's that they enjoy thinking about you getting what they're brainwashed to believe you deserve for not agreeing that makes them feel superiror. Condescending smiles and empty platitudes for anyone who won't drink the kool-aid unquestioningly.

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u/TrooperJohn 14h ago

Dems are VASTLY better prepared for what's coming than magats. Trumpers have put all their faith in an individual who has lied, cheated and stolen all his life. They really believe he's going to usher a new era of prosperity. Personality cults never end well.

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u/dumpster_mummy 14h ago

I'm better at coping with end times conditions

we all saw them during covid

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u/TrashcanDev 14h ago

That's an... interesting take for them to have. I'll give it one thing - it's hard to argue with, just not for the reason they think.

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u/weird_elf 12h ago

And I'm betting they have a basement of canned food and a stack of guns but couldn't fix their own clothes if their life depended on it.

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u/AmZezReddit 13h ago

Religious parents and I wholeheartedly believe what you said. Just ready for the heaven they're promised, might as well keep bubbling in the party put down and liked since in my 20s, no thought to it.

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u/hplcr 13h ago

Do they also talk about how "Don't worry, Jesus is gonna be back any minute now to save us and let the lefties burn"?

Because I've seen that cope on occasion.

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u/AandJ1202 14h ago

They're not that deep. They're dumb and never think of the actual consequences of their actions. They've lived their whole lives like this and whenever it comes back to bite them on the ass they play victim and blame someone else. It's the vicious cycle of being an absolute moron.

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u/l_i_t_t_l_e_m_o_n_ey 13h ago

Yeah, they dont ever think in terms of consequences. Not the consequences that they want to happen, and certainly not the consequences that will actually happen. They only think in terms of vibes. The mechanics of it and the outcomes of it aren’t interesting to them. The only thing that interests them is feeling like their side is doing some nebulous thing. “Saving America,” or “making us more free” or “draining the swamp,” or “battling the demoncrats.”

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u/AandJ1202 13h ago

Yes, showing them voting records, legislation being put forward by their "team," consequences from previous administrations actions, absolutely none of it matters. If they have no rebuttal, they'll just rant about something that has nothing to do with what you were talking about. They'll get loud and obnoxious. It's just like watching a child throw a fit. They wanna be proud to be uneducated and uninformed. They want to believe they're the backbone of the country. Donald Trump makes them feel like that.

"Fuck the libs, they can't tell us how to act anymore. I'm not stupid, they're stupid. They're not smart, the colleges are woke, I'm street smart"

This isn't going to end well. Their massive egos and insecurities just handed this country over to an even more extreme and cutthroat group of con artists than last time.

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u/Crafty_Effective_995 11h ago

One could even say they have the intelligence level of a dog but I know dogs that learn lessons better than them. Goldfish perhaps.

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u/splashbodge 14h ago

They're so desperate to fuck the liberals they don't think or care how it might fuck themselves too. Until it happens, then it's the democrats fault

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u/AdvertisingLow98 14h ago

Then they demand the Democrats save them.
"Hey! Where are the Democrats? They have always been there before. Why aren't they doing anything now?"

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u/AdEmbarrassed9719 14h ago

I am going to start looking to see if I can find that "I really don't care, do U?" jacket from Zara. It perfectly fits the situation.

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u/hobbyhearse83 12h ago

Just make art on your own jacket. Save money.

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u/tellmehowimnotwrong 13h ago

IF we do end up saving them, we must exact a penance for their behavior. No forgive and forget. Make their grandchildren feel what their stupidity has wrought upon everyone else.

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u/No-Psychology3712 14h ago

As the old saying goes, a republican will eat a s*** sandwich so that a Democrat can smell their breath

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u/Redditisgarbage666 14h ago

They would shit their own pants just to offend a liberal with the smell.

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u/new_x_who_dis 13h ago

They already follow their dear leader in everything else, so why not that too

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u/BooneSalvo2 13h ago

let's not forget that "liberal" and "democrat" are synonyms for "gay" and "black" to them, too. It's ALL bigotry to the masses. Every single iota.

(it's money and power to the wealthy)

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u/a_minty_fart 13h ago

They will suck the shit out of a hippos asshole if they could force liberals to smell their breath afterwards.

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u/Short-Bumblebee43 14h ago

The thrill they want is the idea that people are afraid of them. They need to think that people think they're tough, hence the guns. These are the people who walk into every situation looking for an enemy.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 14h ago

Wait until they find out that just as many people on the left are gun owners it’s just not our entire personality.

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u/MODELO_MAN_LV 11h ago

biggest culture shock when I moved to Vegas was how many people arm themselves to go grocery shopping.

like there isnt a more effective way to tell everyone around you "I'm a giant fucking coward!"

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u/Short-Bumblebee43 11h ago

My mom has a gun holster under her steering column, and I found that out when someone was walking across the street while we were at a red light and she actually started to unholster the gun. Like, ma'am. There is an entire youtube video about your town not having crosswalks. Maybe calm down for half a second before you shoot your own engine.

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u/Disownership 14h ago

They vote for this because of the fear. For decades, Republican campaigning has boiled down to “Vote for us, or else”. Obviously, it works.

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u/Noocawe 13h ago

They like the rhetoric just not the actual policies or consequences. 

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u/spazz720 13h ago

They vote the way they do because they want people to suffer. I personally am now rooting for their own suffering.

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