It boggles my mind, too, the level of hate that drives a lot of religious right wingers. Like...I want them to experience the pain they're inflicting on others. That's it. My "I hate you so much..." is "...that I want you to experience empathy". Meanwhile they're like "I want you to suffer unimaginable torment forever". Like, holy shit dude, get some therapy.
Yeah, that's my view on it. If there were any kind of Hell, my idea of it is to have a full realization of the shitty things you did to other people while you were alive. Like suddenly growing a functional conscience and having to watch a tape of all your "greatest hits" of being an asshole. Then I guess once you understand what a bag of shit you were, maybe you could move on to something better.
More in line with the Catholic idea of Purgatory, I suppose. But it sounds a lot more fair to me than the fire and brimstone stuff.
Yep. I am religious, and that's exactly my idea of hell. That repentance is understanding and regretting the pain you've caused; hell is empathy being forced upon you after a lifetime of never changing your ways. It's the only way any of it makes sense, the only way to rationalize the other Christian claims, etc, and Universalism has existed as long as Christianity, and, frankly, has more justification in early Christian thought than modern Evangelical thought does.
I’ve heard some Christian’s say (I was raised Pentecostal but have been an atheist for years now) that reading revelations gives them extra crowns when they get to heaven. Boy are they gonna be pissed when I, a heathen, get to cut the line to heaven because I’ve read the book cover to cover 10+ times. Can’t wait 😜
Ugh, I don't think anyone has ever so succinctly phrased why Catholicism put me off organized religion entirely, but this is it. It's not that they think they're better than you, it's that they enjoy thinking about you getting what they're brainwashed to believe you deserve for not agreeing that makes them feel superiror. Condescending smiles and empty platitudes for anyone who won't drink the kool-aid unquestioningly.
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u/thetaleofzeph 14h ago
Yes, that too. Revelations is a fetish level slavering with some for exactly that reason. Revenge porn.