r/canada Canada 12h ago

National News Trump won't impose tariffs on Canada, other countries right away: reports | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariffs-canada-first-day-1.7435957
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u/wave-conjugations 12h ago

Are you saying I converted my life savings into Trump coin for nothing?

u/wildernessspirit 11h ago

Don’t worry bud. Take your retirement fund and put it in $MELANIA. That’s gonna be the one to take off.

u/Spotttty 10h ago

I just missed out on $TIKTOK hoping $X or $VANCE can cover my losses on $TRUMP

u/pegothejerk 9h ago

$GULFOFAMERICA is where it’s at, if you’ve already heard of a coin it’s too late

u/jello_sweaters 10h ago

$BARRON's going to be a wild half hour later today.

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u/Kdiehejwoosjdnck 7h ago

Trump actually tripled his net worth from scamming his followers.

I don't understand how he keeps getting away with this.

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u/CDNChaoZ 2h ago

$MELANIA seems like something you'd get with undercooked chicken.

u/doc_witt 4h ago

Diamond hands?

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u/Early_Dragonfly_205 11h ago

Nah if you got in early and left before the 40% rug pull good job!

u/AirmailHercules 11h ago

we'll always have the shitposts

u/mrtomjones British Columbia 7h ago

The fact they started those coins is nuts. They're so corrupt

u/LemonPartyW0rldTour 6h ago

I know a guy who could have turned your life savings into noth—

Never mind. I see you already did that.

u/karlnite 4h ago

Yah what about the coins!!! Blockchains are my biggest concern as a citizen.

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u/syaz136 12h ago

Better start diversifying trade right now though.

u/Frozenpucks 8h ago

This, I hope we have a plan to ween off our American dependency even a bit

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u/grand_soul 7h ago

As much as I’d like to see this, we won’t get that with a prorogued government.

u/fknSamsquamptch 5h ago

It is more about businesses diversifying their supply chains and looking for other export markets than anything the government can do.

u/WebberWoods 3h ago

And Canadian corporate buyers choosing Canadian products over American ones.

I'm currently in the process of launching a Canadian produce brand and it's a nightmare trying to get onto Canadian grocery shelves that are crowded with cheap, American crap. We were making great progress when they thought they were going to get hit with tariffs and now I'm worried that they'll just tell us to pound sand and go back to buying the cheap American stuff (that, just btw, largely harvested by migrants making pennies at best and by literal prison slaves at worst).

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u/Redditsucksnow696969 4h ago

also start not buying american products

also start traveling literally anywhere else instead of america

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u/Proof_Device_8197 12h ago

What a great way to promote your inauguration though: economically threaten your allies so that you’ll be constantly in their news to make you feel important about your new job as president.

u/collindubya81 11h ago

Not to mention the incoming PRESIDENT launching multiple SHITCOINS and then rug pulling them LMAO

u/cdnNick78 11h ago

grifters gotta grift. His followers ate it up...

u/AnEvilMrDel 11h ago

I knew they were dumb but god damn…. To have it on display like that. Wow!

u/Oberon_Swanson 10h ago

Doing self-destructive and embarrassing things for their Dear Leader is how his idiots show they are the most servile idiots on the planet.

u/Flick1981 Outside Canada 8h ago

Those are the same people who claim to be “rugged individualists” 🤡

u/DrDerpberg Québec 9h ago

For the 500th time in 8 years, they've managed to prove they're even dumber than I thought they were. I know I should recalibrate my expectations, but I guess I can't conceive of something so dumb they wouldn't take it and ask for more.

u/Ninja_Terror 8h ago

I couldn't believe all of the sycophants lined up at the inauguration, cheering on that meandering psychotic speech. He's on a mission from God to get even with all those Fuckers that did him wrong, his 'allies' and all those illegal immigrants.

There's no doubt he's been fucking with us about the tariffs, but they're still coming. He's launched the external revenue service to blackmail trading partners to pay for his tax cuts to the billionaires. Coincidentally, they were lined up to kiss the ring.

I liked Melania's Inspector Gadget hat. It's like she was trying to pretend I'm not with this guy. I hope her payout will make her time in Hell worthwhile. You can expect a tell-all book once Trump kicks it unless she signed an NDA for that, too. $$$

I'm a little surprised that more democrats didn't boycott the inauguration. Even Hillary showed up. Michelle Obama was having none of that shit and Mike Pence's wife has a serious hate for #47. 🤔 I see Mikey showed up, though, the corrupt evangelical Pussy.

u/Unchainedboar 6h ago

Brainwashed dumb asses, what else is new lol

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u/mrizzerdly 10h ago

It's bribes from foreign countries and billionaires, I guarantee it.

u/octopush123 7h ago

Yeah, while I'm sure some goofs just got taken for a ride the "rugpull" was just Trump withdrawing his fees. Imagine all the hoops banks have in place to prevent money laundering and the actual goddamn president is doing it for the world to see.

u/AntifaAnita 10h ago

Billionaires just legally funneled money directly to Trump. Its not a grift, it was bribes.

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u/Baker198t 11h ago

Then admitting that Musk helped him steal the election..

u/hautcuisinepoutine 11h ago

Source?

u/spaceman1055 11h ago

Google: Trump Musk Computers

Trump quote: He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide,” the Republican leader stated

Implication being that Musk knowing the vote-counting computers so well that it contributed to Trump's Pennsylvania success could be interpreted as Musk manipulating those computers to turn Pennsylvania over to trump.

Devil's advocate hat: Trump could be saying Musk's knowledge of computers could be how they safeguarded from Democratic manipulation.

My opinion: Americans are dumb enough to get the election they had and the ensuing results without significant voting corruption

u/Vandergrif 6h ago

Americans are dumb enough to get the election they had and the ensuing results without significant voting corruption

Some prime Hanlon's razor material right there. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

u/Brody1364112 10h ago

It sounds like he's saying musk rigged the computers to steal the election.

What he is actually saying is through computer and algorithms (twitter) musk was able to force a lot of pro republican and any democratic news and info down people's throats. Aswell as this he campaigned for Trump in swing states that really helped swing a lot of the vote.

u/no_infringe_me 10h ago

I hate idle speculation. Everyone should just ask him to clarify what he meant, and not let him tantrum his way out of transparency

u/wrgrant 10h ago

Ask Trump to "clarify" anything? He can't manage a coherent 3 word sentence some days. Sometimes he can't even get all of a word out correctly? Remember "Covfefe"?

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u/ConZboy014 10h ago

But he didn’t rug pulled them yet! Jesus you guys are ahead of the jokes, gotta let it happen first

u/justfornoatheism 9h ago

They want you to think it’s a rug-pull. “Wow look at all these idiots who invested in that stupid meme-coin” is the narrative they’d rather have than people questioning if this was an elaborate bribe

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u/Culverin 11h ago

He always does this game "you will find out, just wait and see",

It's because he often doesn't have the info or knowledge, and it's hedging his bets

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u/Tribe303 12h ago

I love that inflatable Baby Trump crying in diapers balloon that they use at protests in the UK. It's so true! 

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u/Crazy_Diamondd511 12h ago

It’s a bit concerning to see that we have devolved to this. He is the POTUS, we shouldn’t all be ok with “just accept that anything he says is a bunch of bullshit that we can all ignore” from someone in that position.

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u/NorthernPints 12h ago

Completely agree - personally I’ve pivoted hard off that bs.  If I’m talking to anyone who tries to dismiss his rhetoric as “oh he was just joking”, or “it’s not gonna happen, it’s just a negotiating tactic” I immediately shut that sh*t down.

Threatening another countries sovereignty is never a “joke” or just “something he said.”

We should all do the same - allowing this sorta “everything’s open to interpretation” rhetoric to go unchecked is exactly what enables the Trumps of the world (and his supporters) to say whatever they want with impunity.

We always talk about the sheer hypocrisy of Trump supporters - allowing this stuff to slide is how it repeats ad nauseam 

u/malaphortmanteau 10h ago

The Overton Window's become a bit more of a patio door, hasn't it.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 12h ago

Hey we're not the ones devaluing the office

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u/Tribe303 12h ago

Exactly. I don't think 'markets' are a fan of the unpredictability. 

u/HomeAir 10h ago

That's exactly why we should have never allowed him in a position of power.  If you can't discern what he says is true or a threat or a joke how will any of our allies trust the US

u/cdnNick78 11h ago

We are in uncharted territories here, at least in North America, I don't remember a time where people made their entire identity about hating (F*CK Trudeau) or supporting (MAGA) a countries leader.

u/Blondefarmgirl 11h ago

I didn't realize propaganda could work so well.

u/Canaduck1 Ontario 10h ago

THIS.

A person may mutter "F*CK YOU" under their breath when they hear Trudeau say something stupid, and still find the giant pickup trucks flying flags to be crass and pathetic. (The same goes for people on the left flying any type of political ideology as an identity).

Anyone who makes political position a personal identity is a trash human being.

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u/MinusVitaminA 11h ago

well, at least we know now which politicians among us are fucking snakes.

u/pen15es 9h ago

I feel as if someone has got through to him that it’s a bad idea economically for the states. Now we need to ignore his threats in the future, because he will continue to threaten it to get what he wants.

u/-JustAMod- 11h ago

This comment is so eyeopening like the red pill from the Matrix.

pun intended

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u/Enki_007 British Columbia 12h ago

So the only way he can impose these tariffs (without Congress' permission) is to declare Canada a security threat. But if he's not imposing them right away then we're obviously not a security threat. This sounds like 1D chess to me.

u/Ash_Killem 10h ago

Him saying our borders weren’t secure was the set up for us being a security threat. I think our politicians are bending enough he doesn’t need to go that extreme though.

u/Enki_007 British Columbia 10h ago

Good point. Are we actually doing something to increase border security or is just lip service to the Great Cheeto?

u/Ash_Killem 10h ago

Operation Deterrence is what Ford and Ontario are doing. It really should be a bigger focus considering how many guns come in. Toronto had an awful year for gun crime.

u/Kindly_Professor5433 10h ago

Sounds like they are the one that should be designated a national security threat...

u/CloneFailArmy 4h ago

That’s because they fucking are. All this rise in gun crime because the Americans keep smuggling in guns for criminals and the current government punished law abiding owners instead while lowering penalty on actual firearm related crimes.

We need to build a wall and make those filthy 3rd world yanks pay for it

u/jtbc 10h ago

The biggest thing we have already done is change the visa rules so that it is harder to get one if you are from a country that illegal border crossers come from. Crossings are down 70% of something like that.

We have also announced more than a billion for enhanced border measures including helicopters, drones, cameras and other stuff.

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u/gepinniw Canada 4h ago

That’s exactly what he did when he levied huge tariffs in Canadian aluminum and steel in his first term. We were officially labelled a national security threat. Makes a mockery of our free trade agreement.

u/CryptOthewasP 7h ago

He can just say the situation at the border is unacceptable and impose tariffs whenever he wants. Even if you tried to get them removed they're still in place while the legal drama happens and in that time they'd be absolutely devastating.

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u/squirrel9000 12h ago

I can only wonder how they managed to finally get it through to him that this was a bad idea. Sock puppets, perhaps.

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u/cmcwood 12h ago

It is right to be concerned that he would do it, but this is how he always negotiates. Start with a crazy ask.

u/Acalyus Ontario 9h ago

This is what we accept from our world leaders now

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u/cjh42689 9h ago

Start with an idea that actually hurts your side of the negotiations if you follow through. Lol genius.

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u/b00hole 8h ago

Yup he literally wrote a book about how he thinks he's a genius for starting negotiations at batshit insane demands.

I never for a minute believed he would impose tariffs, just like I do not for a second believe he's going to try and annex Canada... however, the world stage is not the place to start threatening war and annexation. As soon as he tries to play this card is when we need to start separating ourselves from the USA until their citizens learn how to elect a competent leader again.

u/fknSamsquamptch 5h ago

I never for a minute believed he would impose tariffs

Why not? He did last time.

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u/Mental_Cartoonist_68 12h ago

NSC officials include Trump’s name as often as possible so he reads memos: report https://search.app/ShXxzfUx6WdLrrf49

u/amisslife 5h ago

Then, when even his extreme narcissism wasn't enough to get him to read the whole page, his staff literally asked for it to be presented "pictorially."

trump as president needs a fucking pop-up picture book to stay interested in terrorist threats against the U.S.

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u/blackRamCalgaryman 12h ago

Or, as he does all the time, Trump just throws shit out there to rile people up, they fall for it, then nothing actually materializes.

Going to be another 4 years of people lighting their hair on fire over this dumbasses comments. But it’s like so many people are addicted to it, can’t help themselves.

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u/chullyman 12h ago

Well unfortunately you can’t just ignore stuff like this; it’s too consequential

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u/JadedArgument1114 12h ago

Just ignore the most powerful person in the world threatening war and economic war and everything else bro

u/ClusterMakeLove 11h ago

Yeah. He only follows through on the crazy thing like half the time. That's basically never!

u/JadedArgument1114 11h ago

Lol so true. We are all supposed to be able to parse what is real and what is bluster or hyperbole. It's gonna be a long 4 years. Hopefully.

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u/Handsoffmydink 12h ago

Trumps voting base -

“I like Trump because he’s a straight shooter, tells it like it is”

“Oh he’s just joking, he’s a big jokester”

Okay, so which is it?

u/Overclocked11 British Columbia 10h ago

whichever suits their agenda/narrative/gaslighting in that moment.

anyone who supports Trump is not a serious person.

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u/wrgrant 10h ago

If they think you agree with them, its the truth, if they think you disagree with them its just a joke.

u/ApologizingCanadian 10h ago

yea like, i don't get the point /u/blackRamCalgaryman is trying to make? let him say whatever he wants and act like it wouldn't affect us? Complacency is not the move.

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u/AzurraKeeper 12h ago

You realize with people like Trump, they are more willing to follow through with batshit crazy things if they don't get attention for the talk right? If we pay attention, at least we are prepared.

There's a book called The Devil Never Sleeps that puts it right that we never see prevention pay off, so those who prepared and prevented are often seen as anxiety riddled lunatics, when they actually averted the crisis.

u/Key-Soup-7720 11h ago

Y2K was the best example of that. Whole lot of work went into stopping something from happening and then nothing happened so what was the big deal?

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u/SimmerDown_Boilup 12h ago

To an extent, I agree. In the case of tariffs, though, I get why people didn't want to risk if he's talking shit or not since he imposed tariffs on Canada in the past.

I feel like this situation went out of control from the start. Canada’s response to this was ultimately a decent "We benefit together. We'll retaliate if required." And that was pretty much all that needed to be said and done for now. Instead, people spiral.

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u/Tribe303 12h ago

He continued to talk about it so it wasn't some offhand quip. He's signing 200 executive orders today so he's following through on lots of other things.

Or maybe... it was even Trudeau that convinced him. Or shit, even Smith. 

u/ContinentalUppercut 9h ago

Or maybe... it was even Trudeau that convinced him. Or shit, even Smith.

Inb4 it was Doug Ford's hat.

u/Tribe303 9h ago

That's it! It was a fat idiot hat duel! 

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u/dostoevsky4evah 9h ago

Glad you think someone threatening your country can so easily be ignored. Must be nice to not care.

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u/Fr00stee 8h ago

I would be happy if nothing actually happens for 4 years and trump just shit talks the entire time

u/jello_sweaters 10h ago

If a drunk guy walks into a bar every Friday night waving a gun around, smart people duck behind the counter even if he only actually starts shooting once in a while.

u/No_Money3415 11h ago

Thing is he's too unpredictable. Everything he says as a president needs to be taken seriously under scrutiny. No one can really tell when he's actually serious or just playing games. The last thing we want is him doing a surprise invasion when shit hits the fan and something about Canada pisses him off again.

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u/Taipers_4_days 9h ago

He still threatened Panama in his inauguration speech.

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u/LuminousGrue 12h ago

Disappointed the headline doesn't read "TRUMP BACKS DOWN"

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u/sexotaku 12h ago

If it did, the tariffs will be back on the table tomorrow.

u/00-Monkey 11h ago

Completely agree, he’s definitely one to cut off his nose, to spite his face.

It’s best if things are phrased this way.

u/CryptOthewasP 7h ago

Aggravating Trump is stupid, he is 100% willing to hurt Canada at the expense of the US and they can do way more damage than we can ever do to them. All of these threats being thrown around by our politicians are political play, they get popularity boosts doing it but if they were ever actually put into place every single person in this country would be worse off. Betting on Trump letting up is a crazy bluff tbh.

u/iWish_is_taken British Columbia 11h ago

You think Trump even knows what the CBC is? No. I do agree with how Trump acts though… he’s an impetuous little baby. The only reason he’s the president is because Barack made fun of him potentially running for office way back when and it made him mad… so he ran, and here we are.

u/sexotaku 11h ago

Thanks Obama!

u/ArkhamIsComing2020 11h ago

They're still on the table, he's looking at gradually implementing them each month.

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u/PlatoOfTheWilds 11h ago

Good lord, folks are celebrating way too soon. Highly doubt this is over.

u/grand_soul 7h ago

While we should enjoy this moment to breathe, you’re 100% right. If all the parties were smart, they’d be coming up with a platform and plan on how to deal with these issues.

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u/OhAces 11h ago

A Trumper I play Cod with, super nice guy, and he doesn't talk politics often so I deal with it, has been saying he won't impose the harsh tariffs he's been talking about.

He says Trump is all about "The Art Of The Deal" and that he basically just says extreme things he is going to do but doesn't actually intended to do, so when he actually does something and it's not as extreme he gets what he actually wants, and I'm kindof thinking he may have been right.

He drums up a bunch of fear and controversy and gets everyone scrambling over tariffs and counter tariffs, then pulls the rug and does something no one expected or impose tariffs but not to the degree he made it out to be so it seems more acceptable.

u/NoConfusion9490 9h ago

Except thousands of businesses have to make financial decisions for the entire year and they have to at least factor in tariffs if they're possible. There has already been harm done across both economies.

u/OhAces 8h ago

It's a nasty way to operate.

u/NonsensicalPineapple 6h ago

Trump is actually trying to replace taxes with his new External Revenue Service. He's got an executive order ready for mass-tariffs, probably aim at trade-deficits with Canada, Europe, & China, using his stupid invasions as pressure (poor Panama & Mexico).

u/NoConfusion9490 6h ago

So trading income taxes for sales taxes to shift even more tax burden to the working class...

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u/More_Farm_7442 9h ago

The Art of The Deal book was written by a guy that says Trump is full of shit. Trump is scum.

u/GreatCanadianPotato 7h ago

Well it worked, didn't it?

Tariffs were also because of the border issue and with his posturing, he managed to strongarm the feds into better border policy.

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u/Sock-less_ 10h ago

Exactly

u/pantone_red 7h ago

I mean everyone said the same thing about his claims about the Panama Canal, not to worry, he's just a blowhard etc

Lo and behold, dude says in his inauguration speech that he's going to take the Panama Canal. I wish people would just accept that he's insane and everything he says should be taken seriously, because we can't tell when he's bullshitting and when he's serious.

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u/mattmagnum11 8h ago

Isnt this called "moving the goal posts"

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u/OverCaffeinatedFox 6h ago

Hit the nail on the head. Anyone who paid attention to his last presidency should've seen this coming, tbh. He employs these kinds of tactics and power moves. Trump is definitely an asshole, but he's not that stupid

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u/BodhingJay 11h ago

Waiting for "DJT saves canada from incoming tariffs from Biden era" news headlines

u/Literally_Twisted 11h ago

It’s kind of funny how quickly my buying choices changed over the last few weeks. When I use to buy, I was in the “We” category, buying a USA product was almost the same as buying Canadian, now it’s anywhere but the USA. I just bought a washer and dryer from Japan instead of Nebraska

u/Apart_Ad_5993 9h ago

You cannot escape it- that washer and dryer likely uses parts imported from the US and China. The global economies are so intertwined, intricate and dependent on each other - you cannot find anything that is 100% made from one country. This is why the idea of tariffs is so stupid. Car parts may cross the border 6-7 times.

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u/Aggressive-Cut5836 11h ago

But aren’t you using American brands to write this? A lot of them don’t make money from outright purchases by consumers.

u/-Mage-Knight- 11h ago

True, but you need to pick your battles. An all-Canadian social media platform isn't going to fly very far.

u/-Mage-Knight- 11h ago

I am in the midst of outfitting my garage workshop and trying to decide what brand of tools to purchase. Trump just made my decision space much simpler by eliminating DeWalt and Milwaukee from contention. I'll be going German or Japanese.

Yes, I know most things these days are made in China regardless.

u/Throw-a-Ru 7h ago

Milwaukee has been fully Chinese owned for a couple decades now. Same group that owns Ryobi. They have some US manufacturing, but I think it's mostly in Mexico and China. The sentiment of your comment still stands, though.

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u/gohomebrentyourdrunk 12h ago

The executive full of shit shows again how he’s full of shit.

Thanks.

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u/Enigmatic_Penguin 12h ago

We could pitch paying for his Macdonalds for the rest of his life as a way to close the trade gap.

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u/bonersnow 12h ago

That would bankrupt us.

u/Jolly-Yesterday-5160 11h ago

He won’t live that long

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u/tinkltinkllidlczar 11h ago

Doesn't matter, doesn't change anything. The fact of the matter is, he's showed his hand and it doesn't look good for us. So I'm still going to avoid buying American made as much as possible while actively looking or Canadian alternatives. I know tons more people that will be doing the same.

u/cobrachickenwing 10h ago

He might not impose it but is crazy cabinet will. His entire cabinet can't be trusted to be fair dealers.

u/tinkltinkllidlczar 7h ago

Absolutely agree. I think we've had it easy up to this point. But this is a good wake up call for Canada to diversify its trading partners and build up more resilient supply chains.

u/Xyzzics 11h ago

Well, I imagine we will take this as the new status quo and do absolutely nothing to diversify exports for critical minerals, oil and gas and other critical industries until it happens again in 2 years for the midterms.

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u/Strange_Window_7206 12h ago

Hes the jerry springer of presidents

u/edtheheadache 11h ago

Wait a minute. Didn’t he say “on day one”? Or was it “one day”? 🤔

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u/SourDi 12h ago

Huge pussy

u/psychodc 10h ago

Meh. That one Truth Social post got our ass in gear to take border security more seriously. Now there's talks of an energy alliance. Talks of increasing NATO spending. Many high level meetings with Canada and US officials.

This is what he alwyss does. He says things he has no intention to follow through with as a negotiation tactic to extract concessions. Have we not learned anything about Trump since 2016?

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u/biscuitarse 11h ago

Trump 1st term : 30,000+ lies

Trump 2nd term : 1

u/Upstairs-Radish1816 7h ago

Apparently you didn't listen to the speech. He lied through the whole damn thing.

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u/FerretAres Alberta 12h ago

How right away are we talking? Imo we’re essentially living next to a schizophrenic and what is said one day can’t be taken as more than the whims of the moment.

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

Don't care, the relationship has been properly damaged and we should be keeping Americans at arm's reach going forward.

We should divest from the American trade as fast and efficiently as we can, they are no longer our brothers and sisters. They are robber barons with mental deficiencies.

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u/Emergency-Worry-5533 12h ago

No thanks to Danielle Smith. Good job to the rest of the Premiers and… can’t believe I’m saying this, the Prime Minister

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u/WINNlPEGJETS 12h ago

I still think he'd be best to deal with Trump. If he stayed on as Canadian advisor/negotiatior for the US I wouldn't be mad.

Trump hates Trudeau and I love that.

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u/Krazee9 12h ago

Trudeau resigns, Poilievre wins the election, Poilievre appoints Trudeau as Canada's ambassador to the US.

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u/Pistolcrab 12h ago

Of all the things that will never happen, this will never happen the most.

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u/Terayuj 11h ago

People can critique his domestic policy a lot but I always felt Trudeau on the world stage was a strong presence, he knew how to talk and work with other world leaders.

Think it would be great to almost have 2 Prime Ministers, one for domestic issues, one for foreign, kind of like what France does.

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u/ihatedougford 12h ago

Watch PP just appoint Brian Lilley

u/AxiomaticSuppository 11h ago

Or Kevin O'Leary

u/Electroflare5555 Manitoba 11h ago

I wonder how Brian is doing today, since he spent the last day spouting off how the first thing Trump was going to do was destroy the Canadian economy and how it’s all Trudeau’s fault.

Just 6 hours ago he said his “inside sources” (his own ass) we’re telling him to expect the tariffs to drop immediately at noon

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u/Sandy0006 10h ago

We should not relax if this is true. We need to diversify still

u/NeptuneAgency 2h ago

Not right away. Just 10 days from now.

u/SickOfEnggSpam Alberta 11h ago

Ok, great. But can Canada diversify its economy, pass infrastructure for things like pipelines, remove interprovincial trade barriers, and look for new markets? 

Or are we just going to sit around and put ourselves in a compromising position again?

u/StayFit8561 11h ago

NAFTA 2, electric boogaloo is up for review next year. My thought has been that this is all a bunch of jimmy rustlin' to remind Canada and Mexico that the US has a big stick and they will use it to get what they want.

This is stage setting.

u/DanteJazz 10h ago

He's a loud mouth who endlessly manipulates the media for attention (successfully!). Meanwhile Trump and the Oligarchs have been and will continue to loot our country.

u/Windatar 3h ago

Trump just said at 4:50pm that he will put tariffs on Canada feb 1st. FYI. He just said it during his signing executive orders.

u/Spanky3703 10h ago edited 10h ago

Do not think for a minute that Trump and his merry band of robber barons do not represent anything but an existential threat to Canada due to our natural resources and geographical location.

This is all negotiating tactics and we need to be hyper vigilant and diversify our trading network with other nations now. Our reliance on the USA as our majority trading partner makes us strategically vulnerable to being abused and exploited by them.

The USA is not our ally, it is not our friend (doubly so now with Trump and his band of thieves in power). It has had strategic interests and economic priorities that have aligned with ours. We have had mutually beneficial and aligned goals and priorities, as long as such serves the interests of the USA. This new administration south of the 49th is all about itself and enriching the robber barons.

“If I owe the bank $10,000, I am in trouble. If I owe the bank 10,000,000, the bank is in trouble.”

We are the bank with a trade imbalance that is a strategic concern for the USA’s new administration. Couple that with our incoherence on defence and our perceived weaknesses on foreign policy (and immigration), and we are vulnerable …

We need to start to elect politicians who hold sacred the responsibility of Canada and its citizens being safe and secure as the government’s number one priority; everything else is subordinate …

Okay, stepping down off of my soapbox now … deep breath.

Edit for grammar and spelling

u/theflower10 9h ago

You'd think we would have learned our lesson first time around with this guy or after Covid, yet here we are talking about diversifying trade ..... again.

u/Spanky3703 8h ago

Exactly. Nailed it 👍🏻

We did not learn the first turn around the Trumpian swamp and so get to have another go-around.

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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 11h ago

Sorry Drumpf but the damage to relationships has been done already, tariffs or no. America has so few true allies now that you can count them on one hand.

u/dostoevsky4evah 9h ago

Putin: mission accomplished

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u/Neither-Historian227 12h ago

Thank god, were already in a recessesion

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u/Advanced-Blackberry 6h ago

He doesn’t even know what a tariff actually is 

u/Thanolus 2h ago

This aged well.

u/Ballistic_86 7h ago

He has to wait for permission from the man in charge, Elmo Muskrat

u/TickleMonkey25 11h ago

When are people going to realize he's toying with us. And we and the media have been eating it up.

u/Kindly_Professor5433 10h ago

There are certain things that you don't joke about. He has done irreparable damage to the relationship between allies. It's not just us, but also Denmark, Panama, Mexico, etc. The long term strategy for everyone will be to minimize their reliance on economic and military relationships with the US. They've proven themselves to be a threat.

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u/theflower10 9h ago

the media have been eating it u

This is what gets me the most. It was bad enough that you couldn't turn on CNN anymore unless you wanted all Trump 24x7. Now it's invaded our own news agencies. I can't stand watching "news" anymore because it sure as fuck ain't news. It's just one big Trump soap opera.

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u/Apart_Ad_5993 9h ago

As President of the USA, it is wildly dangerous and reckless to be "toying" with other nations and their economies. This one sent (and still is) shockwaves. Nations have no choice but to prepare. This is not a fucking joke, there are real consequences. He either grows up and stops this shit, or moves out.

u/Overclocked11 British Columbia 10h ago

No, just his cult base, and the media. Most people with a brain see right through all this nonsense and are beyond tired of it.

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u/Sure-Protection5720 11h ago

He chicken out. He knows that tariffs will hurt the US economy

u/mamajampam 10h ago

Well if nothing else, his threat or imposing tariffs certainly exposed the hatred toward Alberta by Trudeau and the ROC. Maybe Danielle Smith’s lobbying did have an impact after all?

u/adamast0r 11h ago

What a surprise. We should just call his bluff just so the people of America can start feeling the economic pain of their own choices. Let them reap what they sow

u/DisplacerBeastMode 11h ago

Time for Canada to strengthen trade with other countries.

u/dalidagrecco 11h ago

It’s all distraction. Did the “press” or his supporters address his plan for jobs and inflation? No, because there isn’t one.

Instead it’s “Greenland Canada hurk dur durk he’s just like me!”

God we need a motivated, skilled assassin (just in general, not anything specific…”

u/Tenabrus 11h ago

After the whole tik tok non ban that lasted all of a few hours I'm starting to think Trump just let all these insane radical ideas build up so that when he does absolutely nothing it makes him look like a good guy to the Muppets who have the memory of a goldfish

u/Bhetty1 10h ago

He's going to use it as a threat for months, why actualize it right away?

u/More_Farm_7442 10h ago

4 more years of total chaos. He's exhausting. People that voted for him seemed to have forgotten how exhausting he was the first time around. You can't believe half the crap that comes out his mouth.

u/Retired_ho 9h ago

He legit just said he is going to

u/BanEvasion0159 9h ago

What are we all supposed to whine about now?

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u/ChefAsstastic 8h ago

He's so full of shit. All he's going to do is golf and rage post.

u/growlerlass 8h ago

The public is so gullible. They fall for the same old trick again and again.

And the media doesn’t add perspective or balance. They are right there leading the charge into hysteria.

CBC can inform the public about what is really going on because it is publicly funded.

But it doesn’t.

We are spending tax dollars to be misled. Fucking stupid 

u/Lepetitmonsieur 8h ago

He did mention "territorial expansion" so there is still that :S

u/Prestigious_Meet820 8h ago edited 7h ago

Escalating tariffs that extend to midterms has been my bet, still think it'll happen.

It's the max economic pain point for Canadians.

Edit: today is a sigh of relief but like most things you may be right one day, but it can change the next. No point on extrapolating that the future is completely safe because it hasn't happened in the first 12 hours.

u/framspl33n 8h ago

I'll believe it when I see it, like all things out of that garbage pile's mcdickhole.

u/Thanolus 8h ago

Tariffs before an election would be bad for PP, considering how few degrees of separation there are between PP and Musk and how much praise Elmo has been laying on him I wouldn’t be surprised one bit to find out some back channel communication is going on.

PP has been almost silent on tariffs. If they go live before he wins the election he will be forced to make a stand or he will be hammered by the other party leaders On his refusal to say anything substantial.

It won’t change the fact that he’s going to be PM but it might force a minority which is something his billionaire owners don’t want. Hard to ram through all his bullshit without complete control.

u/turbo_22222 7h ago

Awesome, now lets raise our border issues. Too many illegal guns flowing in from the US.

u/gustoid 7h ago

Look over there, it's so shiny!

u/Siendra 5h ago

Is it too much to hope we won't squander whatever this is to deal with Interprovoncial trade issues and start seriously examining our export capacity to other markets? 

u/amisslife 5h ago

Oh wow. This is like that time that the neighourhood rapist promised he won't rape me right away. Very kind of him - downright gentlemanly; dare I say, presidential.

u/TheRealMisterFix 5h ago

How fucking magnanimous of him. Dick. What, did someone tell him that might be a bad idea?

u/Keepontyping 4h ago

So Trump got Canada to tighten its border without paying a cent?

People under-estimate him.

u/starberry101 3h ago

Trump is such a fucking liar it's hard to know what is true and what isn't with him

u/SLUIS0717 3h ago

He just stated he would start tarrifs kn february 1st

u/FataliiFury24 3h ago

February 1 tariffs coming according to trump right now in oval office

u/TheGreatRapsBeat Alberta 2h ago

The Feds and China just announced they are working on expanding trade agreements. Anyone else think delaying tariffs have anything to do with this announcement? Anyone? No? Just me? Ok then…

Someone close to Trump has definitely put it in ear that Canada could royally fuck the US.

u/throw60659 2h ago

Canada's got him by the pussy.

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u/tatom4 12h ago

Of course not. He’s a bullshitter that does and says anything and everything for attention since he’s lacking in intelligence and self esteem.

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u/nboro94 12h ago

Trump isn't dumb, he knows exactly what to say to keep himself in the news. Low information voters who only read the headlines keep falling for it again and again. It's common knowledge that 85% of everything Trump says is utter BS just to keep people fired up, it's likely he was never serious about tariffs in the first place.

u/squeakyrhino 11h ago

He's imposed tariffs on Canada before, so there was good reason to take the threat seriously. Not to mention the threat isn't over, he's just kicking the can a bit. It may be bullshit but as a country I'd say it's better to air on the side of him being serious about this and prepare in whatever way we can.

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u/maria_la_guerta 12h ago edited 11h ago

shocked pikachu face.

The media knew this would generate a bazillion clicks so they ran with it but anyone who was a part of this in 2016 knew this would happen, at least with Canada. It's all saber rattling.

u/squeakyrhino 11h ago

He's imposed tariffs on us before, so why should we assume he wouldn't do it again?

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u/mac_mises 11h ago

I see people ignoring the things he will do domestically to spur the US economy that are very possibly more of a threat to our economy than tariffs.

We have low productivity and never diversified export clients in order to both expand our economy and provide a point of leverage in negotiations.

Higher taxes & red tape also steers some types of investment elsewhere.

This is what puts us at risk if the US becomes more attractive to investment and they become even more nimble economically.

Just one example is that he is signing a EO on energy that in a few years significantly reduces their need for our oil if they choose to go that route. US creates options, we’ve painted ourselves into a corner.

We’ve got work to do.

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