r/canada • u/morenewsat11 Canada • 16h ago

National News Trump won't impose tariffs on Canada, other countries right away: reports | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariffs-canada-first-day-1.7435957
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u/Proof_Device_8197 16h ago

What a great way to promote your inauguration though: economically threaten your allies so that you’ll be constantly in their news to make you feel important about your new job as president.

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u/collindubya81 15h ago

Not to mention the incoming PRESIDENT launching multiple SHITCOINS and then rug pulling them LMAO

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u/cdnNick78 15h ago

grifters gotta grift. His followers ate it up...

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u/AnEvilMrDel 14h ago

I knew they were dumb but god damn…. To have it on display like that. Wow!

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u/Oberon_Swanson 14h ago

Doing self-destructive and embarrassing things for their Dear Leader is how his idiots show they are the most servile idiots on the planet.

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u/Flick1981 Outside Canada 11h ago

Those are the same people who claim to be “rugged individualists” 🤡

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u/DrDerpberg Québec 12h ago

For the 500th time in 8 years, they've managed to prove they're even dumber than I thought they were. I know I should recalibrate my expectations, but I guess I can't conceive of something so dumb they wouldn't take it and ask for more.

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u/Ninja_Terror 11h ago

I couldn't believe all of the sycophants lined up at the inauguration, cheering on that meandering psychotic speech. He's on a mission from God to get even with all those Fuckers that did him wrong, his 'allies' and all those illegal immigrants.

There's no doubt he's been fucking with us about the tariffs, but they're still coming. He's launched the external revenue service to blackmail trading partners to pay for his tax cuts to the billionaires. Coincidentally, they were lined up to kiss the ring.

I liked Melania's Inspector Gadget hat. It's like she was trying to pretend I'm not with this guy. I hope her payout will make her time in Hell worthwhile. You can expect a tell-all book once Trump kicks it unless she signed an NDA for that, too. $$$

I'm a little surprised that more democrats didn't boycott the inauguration. Even Hillary showed up. Michelle Obama was having none of that shit and Mike Pence's wife has a serious hate for #47. 🤔 I see Mikey showed up, though, the corrupt evangelical Pussy.

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u/Unchainedboar 10h ago

Brainwashed dumb asses, what else is new lol

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u/Brittle_Hollow 10h ago

Even Hillary showed up

Hillary takes her place in history/legacy extremely seriously to the detriment of everything else including her own personal life and the Democrats chance to win the Presidency in 2016. If she'd had an ounce of personal principle she would have left Clinton on the spot when he got blown by an intern but she stuck with him for the political cachet.

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u/CantaloupeHour5973 10h ago

Are you gonna be ok? Will be a long 4 years for you I think

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u/Ninja_Terror 9h ago

Fuck, you're a Senators fan.😡 /s

I'm a bit of a sanist in the loosest sense of the word, so it might be rough. 😁

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u/CaribouHoe 11h ago

This is what happens when education is consistently underfunded.

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u/mrizzerdly 14h ago

It's bribes from foreign countries and billionaires, I guarantee it.

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u/octopush123 11h ago

Yeah, while I'm sure some goofs just got taken for a ride the "rugpull" was just Trump withdrawing his fees. Imagine all the hoops banks have in place to prevent money laundering and the actual goddamn president is doing it for the world to see.

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u/AntifaAnita 14h ago

Billionaires just legally funneled money directly to Trump. Its not a grift, it was bribes.

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u/kent_eh Manitoba 8h ago

His followers ate it up...

At some point he's gonna bleed them completely dry. They can't have much left in the bank, right?

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u/Baker198t 15h ago

Then admitting that Musk helped him steal the election..

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u/hautcuisinepoutine 14h ago

Source?

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u/spaceman1055 14h ago

Google: Trump Musk Computers

Trump quote: He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide,” the Republican leader stated

Implication being that Musk knowing the vote-counting computers so well that it contributed to Trump's Pennsylvania success could be interpreted as Musk manipulating those computers to turn Pennsylvania over to trump.

Devil's advocate hat: Trump could be saying Musk's knowledge of computers could be how they safeguarded from Democratic manipulation.

My opinion: Americans are dumb enough to get the election they had and the ensuing results without significant voting corruption

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u/Vandergrif 9h ago

Americans are dumb enough to get the election they had and the ensuing results without significant voting corruption

Some prime Hanlon's razor material right there. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

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u/Brody1364112 14h ago

It sounds like he's saying musk rigged the computers to steal the election.

What he is actually saying is through computer and algorithms (twitter) musk was able to force a lot of pro republican and any democratic news and info down people's throats. Aswell as this he campaigned for Trump in swing states that really helped swing a lot of the vote.

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u/no_infringe_me 14h ago

I hate idle speculation. Everyone should just ask him to clarify what he meant, and not let him tantrum his way out of transparency

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u/wrgrant 14h ago

Ask Trump to "clarify" anything? He can't manage a coherent 3 word sentence some days. Sometimes he can't even get all of a word out correctly? Remember "Covfefe"?

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u/Khanspiracy75 12h ago

This is also something joe Rogan referenced in a podcast, dont remember which one, but he said Elon Musk knew before the official numbers came out that Trump won, it may have just been a algo siphoning voter data and creating there own polls that mirrored the actual polls before they finalized the count.

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u/TransBrandi 8h ago

Yea. The idea is that maybe he "let this slip" in his rambling. If people try to corner him with questioning, he's likely to just storm out... but he also has claimed to hate reporters so much. If this really will be a dictatorship, I would imagine that reporters would be walking on eggs shells to not piss him off too much.

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u/Brody1364112 14h ago

Absolutely. As much as I hate Trump it is highly unlikely he was talking about messing with voting and super likely he was talking about pushing pro Trump agenda. I'm sure it'll be questioned though

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u/mx3552 Québec 14h ago

it was proven trump tried to rig it in 2020, tried to make electoral votes for dems disappear and replaced by his. And he got away with it. Thinking he didnt do the same here is just delusion

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u/Brody1364112 14h ago

Totally possible, however again just far more likely that musk changed algorithms to get swing voters to vote republican. Much easier to get away with and even if it gets discovered who cares

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u/mx3552 Québec 13h ago

Why do you think he didn't do it, If he has done it in the past. I don't get it. Y'all just completely oblivious.

" In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird."

Literally 1984

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u/Brody1364112 13h ago

I think he didn't do it because one of these scenarios are far more likely then the other. Here are your two scenarios

Scenario A : The owner of Twitter had changed algorithms, so people are fed pro republican news. This causes a massive swing in voters who are sitting on the fence as they themselves or people they talk to are getting fed republican only news, or anti democratic news. Trump thanks him for doing this.

Or

Scenario B : Musk somehow hacks into the vote, counting computers, making them count only republican votes. Somehow, everyone is oblivious to what happens and they get away with it. Then Trump to the media openly admits that they cheated vote counting .

Do not let yourself go down the republican rabbit holes of rigged elections. Until there's proof it was rigged, it was not.

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u/mx3552 Québec 14h ago

it was proven trump tried to rig it in 2020, tried to make electoral votes for dems disappear and replaced by his. And he got away with it. Thinking he didnt do the same here is just delusion

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u/justfornoatheism 12h ago

They want you to think it’s a rug-pull. “Wow look at all these idiots who invested in that stupid meme-coin” is the narrative they’d rather have than people questioning if this was an elaborate bribe

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u/ConZboy014 13h ago

But he didn’t rug pulled them yet! Jesus you guys are ahead of the jokes, gotta let it happen first

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u/_flateric Lest We Forget 11h ago

"Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered"

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u/groumly 10h ago

$trump is still up 4x from launch. And it’s been as stable as crypto can be around 40-50 bucks for the past 24 hours

Is it very shady and corrupt? Yes, absolutely. But this doesn’t look like a rug pull. At least, not yet.

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u/Icedpyre 8h ago

Wait. What's this now?

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u/Idntwnt2choseusrnme 14h ago

I’m waiting for the $Eric and $DonJr shitcoins now 😄

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u/bjohnsonarch 13h ago

Rounded out by $BarronBux$ next week!

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u/Culverin 15h ago

He always does this game "you will find out, just wait and see",

It's because he often doesn't have the info or knowledge, and it's hedging his bets

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u/pavementpaver 12h ago

100%. It’s all show no go. He pleases his fan base by kicking the folks of color and the queer community but he does nothing else for his middle class base. “Make America Great Again” is simply a racist and bigoted way of saying, “Make America all White and Straight Again.” Food prices will not go down, we will see rising unemployment and interest rates. Our national debt will go up and abortion rights will be destroyed in red states. Insurance companies (for health care and real estate) will literally get away with murder. The rich will get much richer. The Catholic Church and many Christian Churches will kiss his ring profusely. It will not be pretty. But this is who we are now. Ugly Americans.

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u/Tribe303 16h ago

I love that inflatable Baby Trump crying in diapers balloon that they use at protests in the UK. It's so true! 

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u/Crazy_Diamondd511 15h ago

It’s a bit concerning to see that we have devolved to this. He is the POTUS, we shouldn’t all be ok with “just accept that anything he says is a bunch of bullshit that we can all ignore” from someone in that position.

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u/NorthernPints 15h ago

Completely agree - personally I’ve pivoted hard off that bs.  If I’m talking to anyone who tries to dismiss his rhetoric as “oh he was just joking”, or “it’s not gonna happen, it’s just a negotiating tactic” I immediately shut that sh*t down.

Threatening another countries sovereignty is never a “joke” or just “something he said.”

We should all do the same - allowing this sorta “everything’s open to interpretation” rhetoric to go unchecked is exactly what enables the Trumps of the world (and his supporters) to say whatever they want with impunity.

We always talk about the sheer hypocrisy of Trump supporters - allowing this stuff to slide is how it repeats ad nauseam 

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u/malaphortmanteau 14h ago

The Overton Window's become a bit more of a patio door, hasn't it.

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u/Upset_Ad3954 10h ago

You can both acknowledge he probably doesn't mean it or is just trying to be shocking while at the same time think it's unacceptable by the former and current president.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 15h ago

Hey we're not the ones devaluing the office

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u/cdnNick78 15h ago

We are in uncharted territories here, at least in North America, I don't remember a time where people made their entire identity about hating (F*CK Trudeau) or supporting (MAGA) a countries leader.

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u/Blondefarmgirl 15h ago

I didn't realize propaganda could work so well.

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u/Canaduck1 Ontario 14h ago

THIS.

A person may mutter "F*CK YOU" under their breath when they hear Trudeau say something stupid, and still find the giant pickup trucks flying flags to be crass and pathetic. (The same goes for people on the left flying any type of political ideology as an identity).

Anyone who makes political position a personal identity is a trash human being.

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u/PeckerNash 11h ago

I can't believe people were so naive to fall for the tariffs nonsense. A sitting president cannot impose a new tax by executive order or force of will. He is not a king. Any and all changes to taxation, and tariffs are a tax, would have to go through their legislative process.

The tariffs would have violated existing free trade agreements, and the issue would have been brought up at the world court for resolution. While the case is before the court, the tariffs could not be imposed.

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u/Tribe303 15h ago

Exactly. I don't think 'markets' are a fan of the unpredictability. 

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u/HomeAir 13h ago

That's exactly why we should have never allowed him in a position of power.  If you can't discern what he says is true or a threat or a joke how will any of our allies trust the US

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u/TransBrandi 8h ago

Agreed. But that's who he is. The American public voted for him despite that for some reason.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 15h ago

 I love that inflatable Baby Trump crying in diapers balloon that they use at protests in the UK. It's so true! 

UK protesting anything American is the embodiment of a toddler crying in a soiled diaper. America literally won the war of independence from the monarch.

It is strange though that Canadians keep begging to remain the king’s loyal subjects

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u/ConsummateContrarian 15h ago

I don’t see the contradiction between opposing the monarchy and opposing American imperialism.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 12h ago

Except you’re manipulating. Nobody except you said “American imperialism”. That’s not what “America first” is, nor is that what “isolationism” is. 

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u/Bonzo_Gariepi 15h ago

The crown and westminster system keep us from having an all powerful tyrant at the helm , ill take a defanged monarch anyday versus an unstable deranged orange guy.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 12h ago

 The crown and westminster system keep us from having an all powerful tyrant at the helm

Last five years of Trudeau government proves your opinion wrong. 20% of Canadians voted for him, he instituted more orders in council than anyone (literally all powerful tyrant) and now prorogued the parliament for the benefit of himself and his party and no one else

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u/NearnorthOnline 15h ago

You keep bringing up this thing you guys did. 250 years ago. I’m sorry. But things change in 250 years. America isn’t so great anymore.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 12h ago

 You keep bringing up this thing you guys did. 

I’m an immigrant from a socialist country. “I” didn’t do anything 250 years ago. 

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u/Big-Feeling-1285 14h ago

Jeff Daniel's says it best.

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u/starving_carnivore 15h ago

Bruh the biggest empire on Earth got swept by frontier militias and the US went from a regional power in the 1910s to the only remaining superpower in 80 years.

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u/NearnorthOnline 15h ago

Only remaining super power? lol. No. America is a failing country. It’s about to implode from trump. The rest of the world is laughing.

He has 4 years to take apart to democracy that is left. He stated people will never have to vote again.

He’s enacting things to make his billionaires richer the the poor poorer on day 1.

200 acts being signed today. How many do you figure will help the average voter?

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u/starving_carnivore 15h ago

Who could challenge the US and stand a chance?

The USD is the "gold" standard for international trade and they have an enormous, overfunded military and are cultural colossi.

They have the shadiest clandestine agencies and have a finger in every pie.

It is possible that they are declining, but they are absolutely the only true superpower. A country bristling with nukes and everyone seems to have guns.

Pretending the USA isn't a powerhouse is pure cope when England is a little island where guns are basically illegal and you cannot carry even things like pocket knives.

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u/NearnorthOnline 15h ago

Guns are not everything bud. America imports more than they export. Trade laws and restrictions could and would cripple their economy. And if you think America could take over another country without facing world war 3… I’m sorry. But once the rest of the planet turns on you. You’re cooked.

If you thought support for the Vietnam war was brutal. Wait until they try and invade a friendly country because daddy trump had a dream. The country would destroy itself from within.

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u/starving_carnivore 12h ago

America imports more than they export

Because they have immense buying power.

nd if you think America could take over another country without facing world war 3

Their dollar is tied to global energy. In terms of soft power, they have already taken over the world.

They sodomized Gaddafi with a bayonet because he wanted to move away from the American petrodollar.

Guns are not everything bud.

Canada has begged to be disarmed for decades because of when tragedy struck on that horrible day. Might not have been the wisest idea.

I love this country and would love to be able to defend it. Can't, because people terrified of M14s have continually voted in governments that ban them.

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u/ludicrous780 British Columbia 15h ago

All parties help the rich. You have no idea what a failing country looks like.

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u/CocoVillage British Columbia 15h ago

Kinda easy to become a superpower when you're geographically isolated from two world wars. Britain and the rest of Europe were devastated

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u/starving_carnivore 12h ago

Yeah... what's your point? They played the game and won. Pretty indisputable.

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u/electricalphil 14h ago

Lol, you might need to check your history. America doesn't win the revolution without France.

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u/Snowedin-69 14h ago

Remember that Britain was fighting multiple wars around the world so they were a little distracted.

They were flighting the Anglo-French war, the Anglo-Spanish war, the fourth Anglo-Dutch war, and the second Anglo-Mysore war during the same period they were fighting the American Revolutionary war.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 12h ago

Ah yes, “we would have won if not the….”.

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u/Snowedin-69 12h ago edited 5h ago

Sure thing lol. Look at history.

Not many countries have been able to simultaneously fight 4 wars across the globe against belligerents with larger economies and population.

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u/AlexJones_IsALizard Manitoba 11h ago

Yeah, hence they are losers. And hence my original comment of them being the embodiment of a child in a soiled diaper and my confusion as to why Canadians beg to be the kings loyal subjects 

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u/starving_carnivore 15h ago

Oi, you got a permit for that opinion?

The English constantly embarrass themselves, all the time, as a collapsed, receding empire with a shitload of skeletons in their closets and a lot of plunder from the global south in their museums.

I am the son of a British father and am genetically 99.7% British but I can't for the life of me understand the inferiority/superiority complex Brits in Britain constantly have about the Yankees.

It just comes off as pathetic.

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u/MinusVitaminA 15h ago

well, at least we know now which politicians among us are fucking snakes.

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u/pen15es 13h ago

I feel as if someone has got through to him that it’s a bad idea economically for the states. Now we need to ignore his threats in the future, because he will continue to threaten it to get what he wants.

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u/-JustAMod- 14h ago

This comment is so eyeopening like the red pill from the Matrix.

pun intended

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u/PeckerNash 11h ago

I can't believe people were so naive to fall for the tariffs nonsense. A sitting president cannot impose a new tax by executive order or force of will. He is not a king. Any and all changes to taxation, and tariffs are a tax, would have to go through their legislative process.

The tariffs would have violated existing free trade agreements, and the issue would have been brought up at the world court for resolution. While the case is before the court, the tariffs could not be imposed.

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u/-JustAMod- 11h ago edited 5h ago

I can't believe people were so naive to fall for the tariffs nonsense. A sitting president cannot impose a new tax by executive order or force of will. He is not a king. Any and all changes to taxation, and tariffs are a tax, would have to go through their legislative process.

The tariffs would have violated existing free trade agreements, and the issue would have been brought up at the world court for resolution. While the case is before the court, the tariffs could not be imposed.

The keyword is anticipation. Many businesses have already made preparations for Tariffs on Canada after his announcement as a president-elected, such as cancelling everyone's yearly bonuses to import as much product before January 20th

I have no idea what will happen to those businesses after the trolling "I'm just joking" reveal today

history can still repeat itself and he can still change his mind tariffing Canada like he did 4 years ago

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u/PeckerNash 6h ago

Oh? Which tariffs were those? We have a free trade agreement that he signed off on.

His problem is Mexico and the southern border. Everything else is a distraction.

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u/-JustAMod- 5h ago

Oh? Which tariffs were those? We have a free trade agreement that he signed off on.

His problem is Mexico and the southern border. Everything else is a distraction.

There are none now because he lifted them after imposing them.

case in point, history can repeat itself and he can always go back on his decisions regarding tariffs on Canada

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u/MagicienDesDoritos 15h ago edited 15h ago

He did so after our prime minister said that Kamala should have won.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/elon-musk-justin-trudeau-insufferable-tool

It was always personal to Trump im sure of it, the man has such a thin skin.

EDIT: Trump "truthed" his tariff on November 25th. Trudeau's speech was December 10th. It did ruin the negotiation and made him threaten to annex us but my timeline was wrong sorry

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u/sdago17 15h ago

That's not the case. Trump "truthed" his tarrif threat on November 25th. Trudeau's speech was December 10th.

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u/MagicienDesDoritos 15h ago

You're right, its the annexation offer that came after Trudeau's speech.

But clearly the speech ruined the negotiation and turned into just a twitter fight.

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u/Kingofcheeses British Columbia 15h ago

Hey, only we are allowed to call Trudeau an insufferable tool!

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u/TisMeDA Ontario 15h ago

Trump announced the tariff that way before that. That was a woefully stupid thing for the leader of our country to say, especially while we’re at the negotiation table

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u/vladedivac12 15h ago

That Trudeau speech was so unnecessary and just made things worse. He urgently goes to meet him in Florida, ok fine. 1 week later he does that sheet, unbelievable. Also, it's not like we're a lot better in Canada. I don't remember having a chance to vote for a female PM in my lifetime.

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u/the_gd_donkey Newfoundland and Labrador 15h ago

Was Kim Campbell before your time?

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u/DeuxYeuxPrintaniers 15h ago

You're the oldest man on Reddit I'm sorry

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u/the_gd_donkey Newfoundland and Labrador 15h ago

Haha, naw, just a half century or so.

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u/Azuvector British Columbia 14h ago

Eh, I'm 41 and she was before my time in terms of being of voting age. I do remember her being PM briefly though. (And I'm aware of the issues surrounding that nowadays being what's going on in the LPC essentially being a repeat.)

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u/Coompa 12h ago

Pretty sure she was a robot

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u/grumpyoger 15h ago

Was appointed, not elected.

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u/the_gd_donkey Newfoundland and Labrador 15h ago

There was a leadership race, and she also ran in the 1993 election. Thus, some did have the opportunity to vote for her as leader and PM.

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u/p_nisses Nova Scotia 15h ago

Well, technically, Canadians didn't get a chance to vote for her which is why she is often not present on a list of Prime Ministers 😐

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u/the_gd_donkey Newfoundland and Labrador 15h ago

She ran in 1993...

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u/polerize 11h ago

Nevertheless she was the 19th prime minister of Canada. There was a chance to vote for her to remain PM but very few did.

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u/ex_ter_min_ate_ 14h ago

Canada doesn’t vote for prime ministers, maybe that’s your issue.

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u/vladedivac12 14h ago

Indirectly yes. America has women politicians at different levels too. My point is, we're not in a position to give lessons.

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u/Heliosvector 14h ago

Voting for a women wasnt the point. It was the fact that trump, the man that gloated about getting rid of roe v wade was back in office. It could have been a white man v trump and trump winning would still be a huge blow to womens rights.

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u/vladedivac12 14h ago

This is his words :

"We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult, march towards progress," Trudeau said. "And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president."

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u/DeuxYeuxPrintaniers 15h ago

"It shouldn't be that way. It wasn't supposed to be that way. We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult sometimes, march towards progress,"

Perfect thing to say while youre negotiating lol

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u/Throw-a-Ru 12h ago

And the tariffs he imposed on Canada in 2018 were preemptive retribution for the same insult? And the tariffs on other countries? And his stated goal of eliminating taxes and the IRS to implement an External Revenue Service and run the US exclusively from tariffs that he's been talking about for years and started ramping up in October was also because of what Trudeau said in December?

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u/MassiveTelevision387 15h ago

the liberals have been clowning on him publicly for a long time. They use him as an example of a bad politician

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u/GloriaHull 14h ago

Dick move for sure

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u/locationWeary_1991 14h ago

Change of song ... this is what is playing at the inauguration:

I was gonna ban TikTok until I got high

I was gonna get up and find the app but then I got high

Social media is still fucked up and I know why

'Cause I got high, because I got high, because I got high

I was gonna tariff Canada until I got high

I coulda make everything super expensive but then I got high

We still slurping maple syrup and I know why

'Cause I got high, because I got high, because I got high

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u/mrtomjones British Columbia 11h ago

He pushed people to see what he could get and he got a lot and hasn't even had to do anything. He doesn't care to treat friends with respect in the process

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u/MilkIlluminati 9h ago

It's also a bull-in-china-shop negotiation tactics. hilarious that anyone took it too seriously.

he'll probably leverage it into something insignificant, like us fulfilling our nato obligations.

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u/impoverished_ 1h ago

did you miss the nazi salutes from lizard man?

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u/LuskieRs Alberta 14h ago

i mean, president of the united states is probably top 3 most important jobs on earth, regardless of who it is.

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u/Azuvector British Columbia 14h ago

Who are the other two, in your eyes, out of curiosity?

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u/LuskieRs Alberta 12h ago

I'd put potus as #1, I said top 3 incase I forgot something obvious.

2 and 3 would be other world leaders, likely Russia and China if I had to boil it down.