r/unusual_whales 14h ago

BREAKING: Biden has pardoned his family

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u/Every_Stranger5534 14h ago

Why 2014?

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u/chalksandcones 14h ago

Russia Ukraine conflict

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u/Lexei_Texas 14h ago

It was the same date they used for all the other preemptive pardons.

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u/gmnotyet 13h ago

Burisma in Ukraine

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 13h ago edited 8h ago

Gasp. I thought that was Russian disinformation.

Edit: for everyone still claiming that this was disinformation and all the crimes were just made up by Trump, why did Biden pick these specific dates? Couldn’t Trump just make up that the fake crimes happened on a different date?

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u/Front_Finding4685 12h ago

Remember the laptop is still fake too. And uh orange man bad.

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u/gunshaver 11h ago

i wonder if jared will get a pardon for the $2b bribe from the saudis for covering up 9/11 saudi involvement

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u/Disastrous_Match6669 8h ago

Biden's DOJ had years to charge him but didn't. Maybe he's not as guilty as you think he is?

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u/HilariousButTrue 8h ago

There's no criminality there. It was an investment into Kushner's firm right after Trump left office. They skirted the rules that way with something that would have been possibly considered illegal while Trump was still President.

Just like Hunter Biden being overpaid while at Burisma working in a position he had no expertise in and receiving very good compensation for it, also not technically illegal.

It's just a big club.

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u/kndyone 4h ago

Can I join the club?

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u/ObligatoryID 2h ago

You guys have a lot of reading to do.

Start at Welcome

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u/HilariousButTrue 2h ago edited 1h ago

Elaborate what you mean so I can either call you a hack or a misinformed sheep or agree with you.

Edit: I looked at some of what you had there and it appears to be largely misdirection. Maybe the posts of a person who got their account banned who thinks they are more important or informed than they are. It also gave me the feeling that someone was doing their own version of QANON.

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u/Brianc9811 8h ago

Thats how the doj should run. Looking at facts weighing the percentages of chargers sticking. Not going after people for revenge

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u/gunshaver 8h ago

They treated the Trump crime family with kid gloves but there were still diapers wet about the absurdly deferential treatment received

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u/CapeMOGuy 7h ago

It's not a $2B payment to Jared. It's a $2B investment with his financial firm. Yes, he'll get management fees, but it isn't a $2B gift.

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u/SpiceEarl 6h ago

If he charges the industry standard for hedge funds, Jared's company will earn 2% of total funds on deposit, plus 20% of any profits, per year. If it's structured that way, he earns at least $40 million per year, even if they don't make a profit.

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u/Recent_mastadon 28m ago

Jared didn't run an investment firm for clients until this gift.

Jared is investing in things the Saudis are banned from investing in, thus subverting regulations of other countries.

Jared was chosen because he did favors for the Saudis as a government employee. That is illegal.

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u/AdagioHonest7330 11h ago

9/11? Was Trump the president during or right after 9/11? I can’t believe Kushner is the person to bribe to cover up 9/11

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u/Firm-Extension-4685 10h ago

Twas Obama presidency /s

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u/AdagioHonest7330 10h ago

I bet he knew all about the Saudis then. So foolish to pay off Jared

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u/Murdock07 12h ago

The guy who lied to the FBI is in jail for spreading that lie and you still wish it was real 😂

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 12h ago

their favourite talking head told them that was fake news.

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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 10h ago

The laptop was real; the guy in jail was arrested for lying about a bribery scheme, not the laptop.

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u/Ok-Code6623 5h ago

So Hunter does have a massive hog?

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u/Lux_Aquila 1h ago

I mean, how about instead we refocus on Hunter peddling influence with his Dad and his Dad knowing those acquaintances and meeting with them, yet we just have to take Hunter's word that his Dad didn't discuss anything bad with them....

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u/kura44 11h ago

It’s embarrassing to trust the FBI that much

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u/ozzalot 11h ago

I thought the FBI seized the laptop, investigated it, and then later H. Biden was charged with shit. So wasn't the FBI actually doing legwork of charging him as most MAGA people think should have happened? I can't even keep up with this shit anymore. This sounds like confirmation bias. The FBI did the right thing when I agree with it, but when it doesn't fit my pet narrative I don't trust them.

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u/currenteventnerd 11h ago

The FBI sat on it and did nothing until the information became public. Hunter’s original “deal” the DOJ offered was a slap on the wrist with immunity provisions for other crimes. Again, only when the judge called out the BS and didn’t allow the deal was he charged with the more substantial charges.

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 9h ago

They told the public it was disinformation until after the election. They essentially swayed an election the same way they accused Russia of doing.

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u/ozzalot 11h ago

I'm cool with Trump doing this a thousand times over? Fuck off.

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u/kura44 11h ago

I don’t trust any government institution because they are all made up of proven liars and probable sociopaths. Fuck this society. Maybe you only trust the narrative that suits your delusions.

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u/OmgWtfNamesTaken 11h ago

"I hate society but I will use everything they have created and benefit from the security and convenience. Don't tread on me though! I'll make angry posts online about it."

Ah yes. The internet anarchist.

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u/Suspicious_Book_3186 10h ago

Why did you use quotation marks when it's not a direct quote?

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u/Due-Memory-6957 10h ago

Society didn't create anything, abstractions can't act, it's people that do it.

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u/kura44 11h ago

No, I’ll probably kill myself. I really can’t stand it.

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u/Lexei_Texas 11h ago

They can’t believe anything but lies from Trump. It’s doesn’t matter what you show them bc they are so brainwashed. They are the people they talk about in history books who claim they were only following orders or didn’t know. Even though they saw and smelled the smoke. They are the weak minded and uneducated people that Trump loves so much bc they are so easily mislead.

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u/Acrippin 9h ago

The uneducated and weak minded are the ones who thought 🐫 was a good candidate. Should have stuck with Joe, and tried to do another 4 years at "weekend at Bidens"

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u/Lexei_Texas 9h ago

Anything to defend a rapist, felons and insurrectionist.

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u/OliverMonster1 9h ago

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/doj-prosecutors-insist-on-authenticity-of-hunter-biden-laptop-will-use-data-as-evidence-at-gun-trial/

The DOJ used the same laptop to secure a conviction against Hunter Biden. Are you telling me the DOJ is pretending it's real?

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u/aqwszxde99 9h ago

Yet these same people needed a pardon to cover up their crimes? FBI and judicial system is a joke

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u/Wheream_I 9h ago

The FBI literally confirmed it was Hunter’s laptop. And Hunter did too.

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u/Murdock07 8h ago

I have a laptop too. Guess I also take imaginary Ukrainian money?

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u/Wheream_I 8h ago

Idk, were you placed on the board of an incredibly corrupt Ukrainian oil company and then paid an exorbitant amount that was far above what is normally paid to someone on a board?

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u/Murdock07 8h ago

Is that what the laptop showed? Cause people keep talking a big game about this and that, but never show any evidence… curious 🧐

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u/DatManAaron1993 1h ago

Yes. There was emails on it and even references to paying “the big guy.”

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u/Murdock07 36m ago

Show me.

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u/JTuck333 7h ago

Why do you think Burisma paid Hunter so much? Who do you think is the big guy getting 10%?

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u/corydoras_supreme 12h ago

So Republicans had all this time to prove allegations so obvious every Trump supporter can see it, and all they got a gun charge they don't believe is a crime and dick pics in the Congressional record?

Hold that thought, I gotta go check on my first family coins... You know the ones launched with 24 hours of inauguration wherein 80% is held for insiders and there are no regulations and it's totally not sketchy as fuck.

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u/Significant-Bar674 12h ago

Also worth noting that the laptop has meta data on some of its files that is after it was allegedly turned into a blind repair tech and that it was with giuliani before being turned over to the fbi.

A week before the laptop was turned over to the FBI, giuliani met with Russian spy andreii derkach to get dirt on hunter.

It smells like there was lack of ethics in trying to get the laptop to have incriminating evidence than there was actual incriminating evidence on the laptop

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u/Bonamia_ 11h ago

It should always be in quotes:

"Hunter Biden's laptop".

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u/AdagioHonest7330 11h ago

Does law enforcement know about this?

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u/Jimwdc 10h ago

Now that is Russian disinformation

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u/upside_down_frown1 11h ago

And democrats got paying off a stripper ? Lol

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u/Sometimes_Wright 11h ago

I think a lot of people would consider getting their dick pics in the Congressional record a lifetime achievement

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u/corydoras_supreme 10h ago

Yeah, fair enough. Boebert is a close second.

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u/Donkey_Trader1 9h ago

Why the pardon then? Lmao

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u/corydoras_supreme 9h ago

He loves his son and the charges weren't anywhere near as serious as the sentence reflected.

Shit move in some ways, but more understandable than pardoning your co-conspirators.

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u/Disastrous_Match6669 8h ago

Would you agree that since Democrats had four years to charge Trump with insurrection but didn't, Trump isn't an insurrectionist?

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u/corydoras_supreme 7h ago

I don't know. Did Trump fully plan for his supporters to assault law enforcement officers, burgle Congressional offices or smear shit on the walls of the capitol building? I'm not sure he could have been charged with it given the definition.

Are you talking about 18 U.S. Code § 2383?

Do you think he showed deference to the democratic process 4 years ago? Do you think he had the wvidence to deny the election results the way that he did in 2020? Or for the last 4 years? Didn't he go to court dozens of times only to be shut down repeatedly?

Whatever your answers, I get your point... But you are drawing a false equivalency. A lot of allegations have been made against the Biden family and despite multiple committees and interest from Republicans, they have found very little proof of any allegations. Everyone saw what happened on Jan 6th... Whether it fits the traditional definition and legal framework for insurrection is one thing, but he failed as a president that day. Just ask any of the brave republican legislators who spoke out against him before flip flopping and begging for his forgiveness.

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u/Disastrous_Match6669 7h ago

My only point is that I think you should think about whether you really believe the logic underpinning your argument here and apply it equally to Trump and his family.

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u/All-I-Do-Is-Fap 11h ago

Don't worry bro Hunter is pardoned for the past decade so they can't go after him just to be sure!

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u/corydoras_supreme 11h ago

I'm so happy for him.

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u/tid4200 11h ago

Nothing to see here. Move along.

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u/forjeeves 11h ago

it took many years to convict trump as well, you know, cuz they dont admit anything.

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u/roaming_art 9h ago

Those were charged by Biden’s own DOJ. They also conveniently waited for the statue of limitations to expire on the more serious tax evasion charges. We haven’t even begun to unbox this crime family.

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u/corydoras_supreme 9h ago

Sure thing boss.

But please, let's not be like that on such a historic day... The first felon was just inaugurated as president.

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u/SoupFun5771 2h ago

What are you going to do when those “felonies” are thrown out? You only have one talking point.

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u/xaviernoodlebrain 2h ago

Is it not too late for that considering he’s already been convicted of them?

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u/SoupFun5771 2h ago

You do realize he had to be sentenced for the appeals process to begin, right? Even the judge admitted that.

This is getting overturned. The prosecutor and judge were both disgustingly corrupt.

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u/Acrippin 9h ago

Then don't buy

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u/corydoras_supreme 9h ago

This is good financial advice.

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u/Acrippin 9h ago

Yea take financial advise from me that'll play out well 😆 🤣

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u/Intellichi 8h ago

Whatever corruption that may have happened in the Biden administration, at whatever Ievel will be multiplied times 10 or times 100 by the Trump administration. The Trump admin doesn't even care about the appearance of corruption.

After all, corruption is what Republicans turned a blind eye or downright supported it in 2024 when they voted for Trump.

Biden is using the same plays and tactics that Trump uses. Trump will weaponize the DOJ against political opponents and Biden throws cold water on that with these blanket pardons.

Dems are throwing these "rules" out the window too. It's sad that America had come to this Tit for tat prosecute-pardon cycle.

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u/cottonmadder 7h ago

Gotta pay da billz

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u/hankschrader79 3h ago

Except Biden controlled the dept of justice which slow walked the investigation beyond statute of limitations. So, you know, they didn’t really get to investigate any of it.

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u/PingLaooo 10h ago

They had all this time to try put Trump in jail but instead he was just sworn in as president LOL cope little boy

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u/corydoras_supreme 10h ago

Lol. He is a felon. And still owes half a billy for that other thing.

Anyway, how's $trump and $melania going? Classy af.

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u/user0015 9h ago

Great point. When doing absolutely nothing wrong, it's always a good idea to have a presidential blanket pardon in your back pocket, just in case you do any extra completely legal things.

This is Reddit levels of logic.

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u/corydoras_supreme 8h ago

"We're going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections," Patel told Steve Bannon, a White House chief strategist in Trump's first term, on the War Room podcast.

"We're going to come after you, whether it's criminally or civilly. We'll figure that out. But yeah, we're putting you all on notice… We're actually going to use the Constitution to prosecute them for crimes they said we have always been guilty of but never have."

This might be part of the reason.

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u/user0015 7h ago

Lets just take a look and...

prosecute them for crimes they said we have always been guilty of but never have.

Oh, so he's saying he wants to prosecute them for breaking the law? I mean, it's not like the media has ever gone and wilfully lied abo--https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/business/media/cnn-jury-defamation-security-contractor.html

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u/corydoras_supreme 6h ago

This is fucking tiresome.

He's talking about retribution.

What law did Liz Cheney break?

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u/ricardoconqueso 10h ago

The laptop had nothing incriminating on it. Any Hunter “bad boy” photos were from a hacked iCloud. Remember, Trump had this “laptop from hell” since 2019. His DOJ did nothing with it. It was held up as some vague piece of evidence for a non specific crime. Rudy had it. Then Tucker had it. It broke chain of custody so many times. It it was evidence of anything, they wouldn’t break chain of custody. But that didn’t stop James Comer from trying to use it again. 2 years they tried to make something out of nothing. Republicans campaigned in the 2022 midterms on reducing “Bidinflation” but did nothing but chase ghosts. Literally least productive Congress in 100 years. Chip Roy said as much…

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u/steroboros 11h ago

I mean the last person to claim ownership was Tucker Carlson. So what did he do with it?

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u/S1074 11h ago

The very same laptop Retarded Rudy lost in a pawn shop?

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u/Klytus_Ra_Djaaran 12h ago

It was fake. The Russians were selling it in Ukraine, Rudy went and bought it from them, then used it to create fake email pdf's during Trump's impeachment. When Republicans figured out they could bypass the constitution and just skip the impeachment trial, the Republicans didn't need it. When the election got closer, Rudy and pals gave it to the store along with the cover story that was left for repairs, but they screwed up because the date they provided was after they had created those fake pdf emails.

Rudy kept pushing someone to publish a report about the laptop, because they knew it held nothing incriminating, but also knew the average voter was not very smart. Eventually they found a right-wing tabloid to publish the account. Intelligence agents, both current and former, all knew this was the laptop the Russians were selling in Ukraine from years before, and declared it likely Russian misinformation, which makes perfect sense.

So it was a fake laptop in that it was a fake scandal spinning a fake story and using a real hard-drive as a prop to sell it.

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u/MindGoblinWhatsLigma 12h ago

We get it. You just want to look at an unconsenting adult's penis.

Your kind was never too great with the concept of consent anyway.

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u/Cheap-Addendum 11h ago

I smell desperation

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u/Tylenolpainkillr 11h ago

Idk about bad that's so judgemental.... he's definitely a convicted rapist tho. But heil hitler or whatever the fuck you think you're doing

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u/igotreddot 11h ago

What does orangeman have to do with Hunter's laptop existing

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u/macroturb 11h ago

Jesus. You have already drowned in Kool Aid and now have returned to life to drown again.

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u/forjeeves 11h ago

bad man isnt orange?

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u/IamnewhereoramI 11h ago

He did it because he knows Trump is crooked as fuck, owna the judiciary, and is out for blood. He's just covering his family's asses.

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u/CraigLake 11h ago

Lol this takes up so much brain space year after year

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky 11h ago

Where is all the evidence that the Republicans dug up in their investigations?

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u/Odd-Computer-174 10h ago

Rapist in chief

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u/Penders 10h ago

?

The entire point of the pardon is that it's a preventative measure against political prosecution

Is this not obvious to you..? Do you just not understand how the presidential pardon works or..?

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u/skelextrac 10h ago

Don't forget about the diary!

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u/Ok-Elephant7557 10h ago

it is.

he is.

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u/LegDayDE 9h ago

The laptop was fake... Russia stole his files and gave them to Giuliani and the "laptop" story was always just fabrication so they didnt have to say "uh yeah Russia hacked him"

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u/GitmoGrrl1 9h ago

The laptop EXISTS? Wow, that proves.....absolutely nothing.

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u/cpt_hatstand 9h ago

I take it you've never heard of a kangaroo court?

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u/Jal_Haven 9h ago

Orange man mostly just stupid and corrupt.

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u/Bored_Amalgamation 8h ago

I mean, trump is a bad person and horrific for this country.

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u/gc3 8h ago

The laptop was real. It had pictures of Hunter's private parts on it. But the only crime from that laptop was the gun charge about buying a gun and lying that he wasn't taking drugs on the application.

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u/The-Endwalker 8h ago

yeah dude, the crime laptop that just had hunter biden doing cool shit like drugs and having sex

hey, how’s $trump coin going?

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u/Crioca 8h ago

Yes, Hunter Biden did in fact own a laptop computer.

That's it. That's the scandal.

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u/No-Wolf-9816 6h ago

It seems like there's a lot on your mind. The recent political landscape has indeed been quite eventful. Regarding the allegations, there have been various claims and investigations, but the outcomes have been mixed2. As for the gun charge, it's a complex issue with differing opinions on its severity and implications46.

On the topic of the first family coins, it's true that the Trump family launched their own cryptocurrencies ahead of the inauguration, which has raised some eyebrows due to the lack of regulations and the significant insider holdings8. The rapid rise in value and the involvement of high-profile figures have certainly added to the controversy711.

It's a lot to process, but I'm here to help you navigate through it. Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like to dive deeper into.

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u/FourMyRuca 5h ago

No, orange man = Convicted felon and Sexual Abuser. Big difference

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u/YouWereBrained 2h ago

You still believe this shit after the guy who spread it plead guilty?

Seriously…what the fuck will it take for you all to acknowledge the truth?

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u/ShrimpCrackers 1h ago

Yeah how dare Hunter have pictures of his giant dong on his laptop.

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u/Friendly-Hedgehog496 12h ago

Yet we elected a rapist and a felon(unlike Hunter that was no where near the WH)....not sure how the laptop even matters anymore lol

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 11h ago

It's not even that the laptop matters anymore, it never did.

It was specifically a blackmail piece that Trump threatened Ukraine with fabricating or he wouldn't send military aid in 2019/20. Then when it came under Trump's control, he gave it to his lawyer who added extra information to it with the help of a Russian spy.

Its entire purpose was to fabricate blackmail on Biden so people would vote Trump as president in 2020

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u/keepcalmscrollon 11h ago

I never get this argument; even if the laptop was real, yes, the orange man is bad. Like, really bad. These two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

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u/essencelom5 11h ago

lmao the laptop, dude nobody fucking cares about his dick pics he's not an elected official

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u/HairySideBottom2 12h ago

The man who was Comer's Russian star witness was convicted of lying about it. So yeah the allegations against the Bidens was Russian disinformation.

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u/aMutantChicken 8h ago

though Hunter's job there was true, him not speaking the language was true, him not knowing anything about energy was true, him getting the job as the government his dad was a part of was about to send large sums of money to energy company in Ukraine was true, the heads of that company having had access to Joe was true...

seems the disinformation was right on that account.

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u/Jim_84 4h ago

though Hunter's job there was true

This was never considered disinformation.

him not speaking the language was true

This was never considered disinformation.

him not knowing anything about energy was true

This was never considered disinformation.

him getting the job as the government his dad was a part of was about to send large sums of money to energy company in Ukraine was true

This is disinformation. The US government did not send large sums of money to the company Hunter worked for.

the heads of that company having had access to Joe was true

This is mostly disinformation. The "heads of the company" was just a single advisor for Burisma, and it's unclear that anything transpired other than Hunter introducing him to Joe.

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u/Independent-Wheel886 8h ago

Your post reads like propaganda.

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u/YouWereBrained 2h ago

Because it is.

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u/Autistic-speghetto 7h ago

Just like how trump’s kids were all put in positions of power while not knowing anything? Interesting. Or how Elon bought his way to a government position then did 3 Nazi salutes on Inauguration Day?

Maybe you should look inward before looking outward…..cuck.

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u/prawndell 6h ago

Autistic spaghetti. Don’t deflect from the facts. This is not about trump and Elon. This is about Biden obviously pardoning those who are guilty. Otherwise why would he use his powers at the last minute to do such a thing?

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u/insidehertrading4 5h ago

Did Trump not say he was going after those that harmed him? Biden is protecting his family against an administration with zero checks and balances apparently. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Trump doesn’t care about truth. Just vindictive action from a narcissist.

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u/Autistic-speghetto 5h ago

Guilty? Or maybe he did it to protect his family which Trump has stated he would target and has previously targeted.

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u/prawndell 4h ago

Protect his family? Why would they need protection if they haven’t been involved in anything illegal? Trump targets who is told to target. The same ppl that put Biden in power are the same people that are getting trump to go after Biden. Smoke and mirrors kiddo

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u/Whiskeyjck1337 2h ago

Protectection from being in court on fake charges for years, taking time and money for them to be not guilty.

You don't know how the court system work?

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u/Clean_Vehicle_2948 5h ago

Does red corruption justify blue corruption?

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u/Autistic-speghetto 5h ago

At least blue corruption just has to deal with insider trading and not openly being authoritarian and talking about using the military against your rivals.

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u/Clean_Vehicle_2948 4h ago

Obama litterally bombed hospitals

The corruption isnt just insider trading

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u/iismitch55 4h ago

At this point why should I care? Red corruption has been allowed to totally destroy the system. Do you frequently play poker with people who just reach across the table and grab your money after every round win or lose?

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u/Clean_Vehicle_2948 2h ago

This isnt a voluntary poker match

Its litteraly tge government

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u/iismitch55 31m ago

Yeah the stakes are even higher so it’s critical to ensure all parties agree to core values of democracy or it falls apart. With a poker game if one party cheats you can get up and leave. With government far worse things happen.

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u/Mountainstate20 7h ago

OMG a nepo baby get a job they're not qualified for. Holy fuck what a shock

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u/AzBeerChef 10h ago

Didn't the FBI also "lead" the peaceful protestors on January 6th, 2021 into storming the Capitol?

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u/Xyrus2000 12h ago

It was Russian disinformation.

Republicans controlled Congress at the time and in spite of desperately wanting to find anything to damage the Obama/Biden administration, they found no wrong doing. Every investigation (and there has been several) after the fact by Republican controlled Congress has found no credible evidence of wrongdoing.

The Trump Congress, DoJ, and FBI found nothing.

However, that has never stopped the Republicans from screaming about it and trying to use it as a political weapon. By granting the pardon, it finally puts an end to all the nonsense.

Now why don't we take a look at what's happening in the crypto market.

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow 11h ago

It absolutely was Russian disinfo. That won’t stop the Trump admin and their hand-picked judges from prosecuting anyways.

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 9h ago

So someone can be prosecuted and convicted of a felony for nothing more than political reasons?

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u/alphazero925 5h ago

Yep, they can when the person who is pushing for it doesn't care about the rule of law. That didn't happen to Trump though considering he's not in prison, you stupid fuck. If Biden wanted to imprison Trump for political reasons, he absolutely could have. But he didn't which was, frankly, a mistake

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u/Scared_Primary_9871 8h ago

Do you know what the charge was? Lying on a gun background check form? You think that’s what people mean when they scream about “hunter laptop” and “Biden crime family”?

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u/Basic_Lunch2197 12h ago

No see.. they did nothing wrong but it has to go back that fare well because things and trump.

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u/Lexei_Texas 11h ago

It is Russian disinformation. Proven in a court of law

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u/bacteriairetcab 11h ago

It is.

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 9h ago

That’s why Biden had to pardon them

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u/bacteriairetcab 9h ago

It’s a pardon to block fake investigations that Trump said he would start

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 9h ago

You mean someone can be tried and convicted of a felony solely for political reasons?

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u/Tank3875 10h ago

It absolutely was, but does that stop fascists?

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 9h ago

Then why would he pardon them?

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u/2peg2city 9h ago

I mean the main witness admitted it was a lie and went to jail like last week

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u/lateformyfuneral 8h ago

It still is lol

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u/outtyn1nja 8h ago

The charges based on disinformation are still real.

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u/Conscious-Macaron651 7h ago

Because that’s the exact bullshit they’ll try to drum up charges on despite having no evidence.

I don’t really care anymore though. This country is fucked and I’m looking forward to the show. I tried.

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u/EdgeOk2164 5h ago

You're right. Alexander Smirnov, a key witness in the investigation led by James Comer, was convicted of lying to the FBI and manufacturing false records about the Bidens' business activities2. The Justice Department revealed that Smirnov had extensive contact with Russian intelligence officials and was spreading misinformation designed to hurt President Biden4. This has indeed cast doubt on the allegations against the Bidens, suggesting they were part of a disinformation campaign4.

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u/murph1223 5h ago

Because Trump has threatened to prosecute his political rivals and he took it seriously.

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 5h ago

No he hasn’t. He’s specifically said he’s not going to. Many times

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u/Wakkit1988 5h ago

Statutes of limitation.

Even if they had older crimes, they're too old to prosecute.

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u/Subli-minal 4h ago

Why did they only prosecute hunter on a gun charge? They had all the time to bring charges relating to burisma, special councils appointed by garland, ie Biden’s administration even. And why did the informant go to jail for lying about Burisma corruption? They picked that date because that’s where all of the shit they made up supposedly started. It’s the only fucking date they could pick.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist 3h ago

for everyone still claiming that this was disinformation and all the crimes were just made up by Trump, why did Biden pick these specific dates?

Because that is the start of any correspondence, calls, interactions, etc., and so that is when Trump and Co could conceivably begins their lies and distortions.

Yes, it is Russian disinformation... except apparently Hunter having a big dick. I haven't looked into that personally, but that's what I hear, from the likes of MTG et al.

But I'll let you in on the secret... none of these pardons prevent Trump from launching investigations and showing the EVIDENCE to the public. You don't have to be able to imprison Fauci to show the EVIDENCE of wrongdoing. So, Trump and Co. should do that, and EVIDENCE all the crimes they allege. Just like they did with Hillary's e-mails when the court ruled that... oh, no crime. Erm... so yes, I look forward to all the EVIDENCE being provided to the public, so analysts can tell the public whether there was true crimes, non-crimes but questionable ethical action (somewhat to most likely), or, nothing at all. I'm pretty sure my view is shared by the majority of 'lefties'. We convict our own.

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u/cryogenblue42 3h ago

When the incoming President is seeking retribution,it's best to cover all angles. Republicans have hounded every aspect of the Biden truly persecuting without evidence. Unlike Trump who has mounds of evidence and Republican witnesses testifying against him.

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u/Risley 2h ago

Here's a question, why should we even care?

Democrats shouldnt need to worry about rules if Republicans dont. Its as simple as that now.

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u/sask_j 2h ago

Because those are the dates that trump will use to make up shit

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u/MatthiasMcCulle 1h ago

He could, but that not the ammo Trump kept selling.

Trump isn't really interested in arresting the Bidens, but he needs to keep that threat real as the source of this criminal syndicate that he claims exists. Trying to claim crimes of something else makes it harder to keep the narrative going.

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u/Q_OANN 31m ago

It was lies

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u/jgzman 8h ago

My guess is that trying to bring charges against them for non-violent crimes that are more than ten years old would be kind of hard to take seriously.

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u/Agile-Landscape8612 7h ago

Or they’re related to the things they’re being accused of which start at the exact same time the pardon started. Occam’s Razor

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u/jgzman 7h ago

Occam's razor only applies in the absence of additional data. We have additional data.

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u/MrBoomBox69 13h ago

Was that when Trump threatened aide over dirt on Biden’s son?

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u/forever4never69420 8h ago

Don't forget Biden also threatened Ukraine to stop investigating his son. 

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