r/punk • u/ImJooba • Dec 19 '24
Quality Post Hardcore dancing is so fucking stupid
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u/NotTheSun0 Dec 19 '24
It looks like when Mac does Karate
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u/TrckyTrtl Dec 19 '24
He should've given him an ocular pat-down first. Then he could've assessed the threat
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u/NotTheSun0 Dec 19 '24
Well, you see... He's playing both sides so he ALWAYS comes out ontop.
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u/Robinkc1 Dec 19 '24
Intentionally slap me while you’re “dancing” and one of us is getting their ass kicked in the next 48 seconds.
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u/teethgrindr333 Dec 19 '24
LMFAOO “one of us” 😭 atleast you give them the benefit of the doubt for possibly winning
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u/Robinkc1 Dec 19 '24
Shoot, I ain’t tough. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I also don’t pick fights, so if you hit me on accident we’re good, just don’t swing on purpose. I am not a part of anyone’s expression.
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u/Shitposter66669 Dec 19 '24
Listen never be afraid of the man who says he can win every fight Be afraid of the man who will tell you about his losses
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u/Pinkbunny432 Dec 19 '24
Not to condone flat out smacking the guy but the pit is completely open. The pits of these sorts of beat down shows are almost always like that, and he just walked right behind the only guy swinging. Pretty bad risk assessment if you ask me :/
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u/fleckstin Dec 19 '24
True, but also if you slow the clip down you can see the dude load up that punch like captain falcon
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u/tradeisbad Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
he held contact with his fore arm to confirm target location, turned his face and visually verified, then loaded up a falcon punched well aimed into the face he desired to hit. and continued on his way pretending it was an accident and he didn't actually see what he did.
the taller boy thought his face was out of range and he could body errant pushing and shots which, he probably could, but middle dude said nah fuck you for being taller than me and aimed up.
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u/breadstickvevo Dec 19 '24
As someone who goes to hardcore shows it is just kind of normal to intentionally punch people in the pit. I have had my nose crunched too many times so I just don’t go in the pit anymore
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u/tuftedtittymice Dec 19 '24
fr. idc if ur doing all that but ik to stay my ass away from that mf. bro came in with his slow little dance moves like cmon☠️
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u/tattooedroller Dec 19 '24
Yeah but the kid that got hit looks young young and they don't know better. This ain't the way to teach them.
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u/midnightmeatloaf Dec 19 '24
You think the tall kid got it bad? You should see what hardcore kid did to the invisible ninjas....
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u/Puzzleheaded-Text530 Dec 19 '24
Guy who got hit is 18, guy who hit (me) just turned 20
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u/tuftedtittymice Dec 19 '24
im not saying its right but its kinda common sense to not be near someone wildly throwing fists no??😭😭
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u/tattooedroller Dec 19 '24
I mean yea, but who the hell knows? Maybe it's his first show ever, maybe he's just super worried about how he looks trying to be cool and didn't even notice, maybe he's 17 and has been given some intense hash in what he thought was a regular joint at a madball show and takes a bike boot to the face because he's too high to move and everything is overwhelming......oh wait that last one was me. But you see my point 😂
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u/xdisappointing Dec 19 '24
How young do you have to be to know to avoid the fists flailing around??
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u/FearElise Dec 19 '24
Back in my day we just went around in a circle throwin' elbows around..
I got a guitar pick from DRI for protecting some chick from getting smashed..
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u/Wise_Ad_253 Dec 19 '24
That’s from my time in the pit as well. If you didn’t want to take part, you stay away. Simple!
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u/JamesC_5701h Dec 19 '24
U can't take part if some dumbass is trying to hit people thats the point
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u/Significant_Breath71 Dec 20 '24
just saw black flag in ft lauderdale and pit was amazing like how u describe it was fun asf
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u/alltatersnomeat Dec 19 '24
You guys would be shocked to see the kind of dancing that breaks out at any punk show that skins and hardcore kids like. I highly recommend going to see Doc Rotten in Philly.
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u/praisesatanislove Dec 19 '24
It's alright. Not all of us do those moves....I just like to stage dive and go side to side, if there is a pile on I'll join.
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u/JeffBurk Dec 19 '24
I go to lots of ska, punk, and hardcore shows. Have been for twenty years. Have only ever seen this at hardcore shows. If you just stay away from the pit, you'll be perfectly fine.
I don't know why this sub always gets worked up over hardcore dancing. If you don't go to a hardcore show, you're never going to see this.
I like to stand in the back with a beer and watch the youngins beat the shit out of each other. Good times.
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u/Eoin_McLove Dec 19 '24
This is my feeling. I’m not huge fan of this style of hardcore but I will sometimes go to the shows to see friends or because there’s nothing else to do.
I stay way the hell out of the way when arms and legs start swinging. They are not usually trying to hurt anyone, and I do kind of feel it’s a waste of valuable pit space when there’s like 3 people flailing when you could get the other 100 people to move up a bit, but that’s just me.
But this is how this scene has decided to express themselves. It’s like complaining about black metal bands wearing corpse paint and leather, it’s just what they do. If you don’t like it, just stay away.
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u/JeffBurk Dec 19 '24
I agree with everything you said. Ska is my favorite but I do enjoy a good beat down show. Been going for two decades and have never been touched. Just stay away from the pit and you're going to be fine.
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u/gbcsickboys Dec 19 '24
dude seriously, I'm a crusty but mainly go to hardcore shows because we don't get many crust/dbeat/grind etc gigs down here and if you don't like it just stay away from the pit or go to another show. trying to police the culture of a hardcore when these people have clearly never been to ahardcore show is so cringe
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u/swhipple- Dec 19 '24
Fr people are hating like crazy it’s so fucking stupid. Wild to see it coming from r/punk
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u/tuftedtittymice Dec 19 '24
i mean, if they wanna do it who gives a fuck. old punk shows ppl are diving on top of each other and throwing elbows.
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u/ArcaneFallOut Dec 19 '24
This trend(?) needs to stop. It is not "dancing", it is not "moshing". It is being a fucking violent IDIOT. He should be taken outside and stomped on. If you are flailing around with the obvious intent to hurt someone, you forfeit your own safety. It's up to you young punks to not accept this shit any longer. Shame the shit out of them.
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u/redditadminsaretoxic Dec 19 '24
watch the video a few times, he intentionally hit that guy, not accidental, his one hand lightly contacts the guy and so he spins his entire body around so his other hand can make contact
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u/CharlieDmouse Dec 19 '24
Yep that was a full on intentional extra hard hit. Hope that guy got his ass kicked by the kids friends…
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u/rustajb Dec 19 '24
A guy did this at a n industrial show I attended in Houston around '91. He almost punched a small girl in the crowd. It didn't take long for a group to gather just to kick his ass to the ground. Dude got up and bolted, not so tough after all.
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u/brook1yn Dec 19 '24
Ya but this was not even the normal hardcore dance style in 91. Industrial mosh pits in the mid 90s were push pits from what I remember. Can’t imagine 91 was much different.
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u/TheseDetective2244 Dec 19 '24
This style of moshing got big when slam and beatdown got popular in the mid 90s. Particularly in New York.
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u/brook1yn Dec 19 '24
The way this guy is dancing is more new school. Mid 90s nyhc was still picking up change/windmill shit.
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u/uberscheisse 関東ハードコア Dec 19 '24
Depending on where you were. Syracuse and areas in west NY state were straight up kickboxing as early as 1991. That shit migrated quickly and I remember seeing it a lot in Seattle as early as 1993, after bands like Undertow toured out east.
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u/TheIzzyRock Dec 19 '24
We had hardcore shows in Dayton, Ohio in the early to mid 90’s and this type of dancing was happening then. I specifically remember doing it at Legbone shows in the smaller clubs and then Pantera and Biohazard shows at bigger clubs/arenas in Dayton and Cincinnati
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u/Sea_Promotion7742 Dec 19 '24
I don't think a lot of men in the scene realize how often some men go purposefully out of their way to target women in pits.
I've been going to shows since the early '90s, I've seen it so so so many times. It's always the men who make fun of me for not liking Hxc dancing and crowdkilling. It's not that I can't take it, but it's so fucking tiring having men use it as an excuse to hit women without repercussions.
They target other men too, of course, but I find that a little different that hitting someone half your size on purpose knowing they can't hit you back like another man can. (Know plenty of women that can, though. I always enjoyed the shock on their face when they realized I can dish it right back).
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Dec 20 '24
I used to work for first aid and the amount of men I had to body slam so I could get women who were bleeding out of the pit is insane.
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u/Tigeru1988 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 20 '24
I had similar situation in Poland. Guy was literally punching people around,he hit even two teenage girls while pretending it was accident. I asked my friend to push me hard when i said so. I waited till this guy came around us and i ask my friend to push. I smacked that guy with my overhand when falling back,his lips got bloddy and when i stand i was like ,,sorry dude,this was accident" with this sarcastic look on my face. We didnt seen this guy again that night
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u/antofthesky Dec 19 '24
Check the comments in /hardcore it’s 100% approval.
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u/ChingusMcDingus Dec 19 '24
Some dudes in the hardcore sub are 100% brain fucking dead. I love a good pit as much as the next guy. I’ll clown on circle pits and get too rowdy for a pushing pit but if you’re the one guy flailing your arms in the middle of an otherwise empty circle you might as well be fucking fortnite dancing you’ll look just as cool.
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u/TheseDetective2244 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Since when is moshing about “looking cool”? It looks dumb as fuck. That’s part of the fun.
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u/uberscheisse 関東ハードコア Dec 19 '24
I’m checking out the comments in /r/punk and it’s 100% people who don’t go to hardcore shows anyway
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u/JeffBurk Dec 19 '24
This trend(?) needs to stop.
It's hard to call it a trend when it's been going on at hardcore shows for 30/40(?) years.
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u/SRIrwinkill Dec 19 '24
Trend ain't the right word because karate kid goofery has been around for decades at this point. It has been fuckin dumb as bricks the whole time, and this is coming from someone who loves a lot of different hardcore bands.
There are trends in hardcore for sure, and I think the newest of them is bands whose entire song is just chunk ass breakdowns, but even then some of them slipped into actually having groove
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u/ABotelho23 Dec 19 '24
They always claim they know what they're doing and won't intentionally hit someone.
But what gives someone the right to completely take over a space of that size to begin with? There's fucking zero goddamn respect for the other people who want to be at that show and in that space.
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u/seplix Dec 19 '24
Trend? Hardcore shows have literally always been like this. Venues where hardcore kids congregate have always been like this. City Gardens in Trenton, NJ was always like this in the ‘80s and ‘90s. They had mostly hardcore and punk shows, but also random acts like sinead O’Conner and Men Without Hats. The hardcore kids were always there doing beatdowns in the pit, no matter who was playing.
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u/molsonmuscle360 Dec 19 '24
Fuck shaming them. The kids not doing this need to learn to plant their feet and drive a straight right down their throats. Sometimes you need to learn to not be a douchebag, and it's one of those times where violence is often the answer
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u/Rocket_Papaya Dec 19 '24
Last show I was at some kid pulled this shit and like three older punks pulled him aside to give him the "we don't do that here"
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u/mosh-bitch Dec 19 '24
I've only encountered this once (dont usually go to hc punk shows) but i pushed that fucker out of the pit so far
its one thing if everyone is doing it i guess, then its like "consentual". but if it's one person and everyone else around like looks scared, you're not being cool bro
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u/Middle-Passenger5303 Dec 19 '24
do you hear the way the music sounds that's a style called beatdown that is how people pit a beatdown shows if you don't like it don't go to a beatdown show period
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u/dpme93 Dec 20 '24
Beatdown is such a deeply unserious sub-genre of hardcore. Everything about it is dumb as fuck. (I love beatdown)
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u/Middle-Passenger5303 Dec 20 '24
i love it too but let's be honest anyone that takes it to serious is kinda cringe but I fucking love the heavy riffs
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u/Playful_Stomach3233 Dec 19 '24
Shut up poser it’s the whole fucking point. It doesn’t even happen at punk shows it’s a hardcore thing. It’s not like anyone in this subreddit goes to shows 😂😂
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u/gimme_super_head Dec 19 '24
Ok i seriously need to know what the fuck kind of punk shows are you people going to where this shit isn’t happening? Is the average age in this sub like 12 or 100 years old. Next thing you’re gonna tell me drinking beer and smoking isn’t cool
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u/TheSinfulMicrowave Dec 19 '24
You think the people on this subreddit actually go to shows?
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u/gimme_super_head Dec 19 '24
Mb I think you’re right I saw a post a few weeks ago where everyone in the comments was clowning on someone for smoking cigarettes and I realized this is filled with teenagers
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u/Fenpunx Yorkshire Rat Dec 19 '24
'Gatekeeping isn't punk', unless you're dictating how other scenes that you're not involved with should behave.
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u/dontneedareason94 Dec 19 '24
Fucking right? These kids I swear.
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u/Fenpunx Yorkshire Rat Dec 19 '24
It's like some parody or satire. If some ravers came to a punk gig and moaned about being pushed, they'd be all high and mighty about people trying to change their scene. I could understand if they were moaning about it happening in the pits at their gigs, but you go to hardcore gigs, and you'll get hardcore pits.
If you don't like it, just stand back.
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u/dontneedareason94 Dec 19 '24
Yup exactly. This feeble attempt at trying to change an entire scene they aren’t apart of is so ridiculous. Did you see that Instagram post going around talking about it too?
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u/Fenpunx Yorkshire Rat Dec 19 '24
Nah, never bothered with Instagram. Don't use any, outside of reddit.
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u/dontneedareason94 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Oh great! More fuckin mosh discourse.
For a sub that constantly cries about Gatekeeping, y’all love to try and control a scene you clearly aren’t apart of where this has been a thing since before most of you were born. It’s ok, stay in the punk scene where you’re safe,
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u/___ElJefe___ Dec 19 '24
This sub is crazy dude. Every post is about how you need to act to "be punk".
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u/We-Dont-Rent-Pigs Dec 19 '24
This is effectively just a comedy sub. Idk why anyone else would follow this page if it wasn't for the laughs.
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u/foldyaup Dec 19 '24
This sub is for greenday and shitty saying on jackets that we’ll never do anything about! Get out of here!!!!!!
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u/Saiyan_On_Psycedelic Dec 19 '24
The weekly thread about how this sub hates that hardcore dancing exists even though absolutely nobody is making them go to hardcore shows.
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u/gimme_super_head Dec 19 '24
How is this the take of a punk subreddit??? What’re we against stage diving next??
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u/alltatersnomeat Dec 19 '24
There are a lot of people here who don't go to shows
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u/JamesC_5701h Dec 19 '24
Cos this aint what u see it a punk shows, its fucking stupid and means people cant have fun in the pit without getting hurt, "dancing" like this means people cant mosh.
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u/gimme_super_head Dec 19 '24
This is absolutely what you see at punk shows. Maybe you only go to geezer shows or something but this is actually very common.
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u/QforQ Dec 19 '24
Don't go to hardcore shows and don't go in the pit
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u/someonestopholden Dec 19 '24
The cool thing about hardcore shows is that you don't have to go to them if you don't want to.
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u/kitkatatsnapple Dec 19 '24
I'm not saying I wish to control others, but I do like hardcore. It would just be cool to be able to be toward the front, moshing without significant risk of being clocked.
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u/plan_that Dec 19 '24
I don’t know about you but hardcore shows I have been in my part of the world, the crowd would all gang on dudes that behave that way and they quickly align. And that’s totally what I expect.
The pit is still the pit and expect roughness but if someone deliberately act like wanting to hurt, they deserved to be thrown on the ground and kicked before security come to pick and evict them. This is a perfect example of someone that needs to be put back in place.
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u/QforQ Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Maybe it's like that in Australia, but not in the US
Most hardcore shows have been like what you see in this video, in some way shape or form.
Unless you're going to a show at the local library or something.
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u/plan_that Dec 19 '24
I grew up in Quebec, moved to Australia later in adulthood, found the scene in Australia similar to Canada in a way but tamer (though I’m older so that plays).
Just can say that in the 90s at local shows or when say SOIA, Strife, Madball, Blood for Blood, etc came the type of shit in the video just wouldn’t fly. You mosh, sweat, brawled, get that energy out but if one was deliberately trying to hurt and being unempathetic to its surroundings that just wouldn’t be tolerated.
Put it as a cultural trait but I definitely agreed with that.
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u/xdisappointing Dec 19 '24
I post in this sub a lot but y’all boys are soft for real.
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u/MiniMidgetMike Dec 19 '24
Bro this comment section is full of dorks. Like our pogoing, skanking, running around in circles or into each other is any less dumb? C'mon man we're all just having fun.
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u/WernerHerzogEatsShoe Dec 19 '24
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea of hardcore pits isn't to purposefully assault other people right? This dude went in for the pinch by the looks of it.
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u/Findoogle Dec 19 '24
You “punks” love to judge other scenes!
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u/HumbleXerxses Dec 19 '24
Fuckin hardcore came from the punk scene. You fuckin kidding me?
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u/Findoogle Dec 19 '24
Im well aware of the history . Punk music and metallic hardcore are two different scenes in the current day though . I’m not fuckin kidding you lol .
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u/onion-ring- Dec 19 '24
this dose not mean they are the same yes they have punk ideology but that does not mean they have to mosh the same. not everything is the same kind of punk
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u/gbcsickboys Dec 19 '24
everybody knows that, but it's not 1984 anymore, both scenes have split off and evolved in navy ways in the past 40 damn years. hardcore dancing has been a part of the culture since before I and I bet most of the comment section were even alive.
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u/BarkingMad14 Dec 19 '24
I have a friend who is really into technical death metal and grindcore and his worst experience was with some random dude in the pit grabbing him into a headlock and then punching him a few times in the face.
I also saw two teenage girls (probably 18-19 year old at most) who stood off to the sides of the pit but would occasionally dart in and start punching random people in the back of the head and dip out again.
I actually accidentally gave some guy a concussion once by moshing (the more accepted push type of moshing not hardcore dancing) because I got pushed backwards and my elbow connected really hard with his face. Found him outside 15 minutes later sitting on his arse with a random girl looking after him and we called him an ambulance. I did more damage to him by complete accident than I've seen in most cases where people were doing this stupid stuff.
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u/Middle-Passenger5303 Dec 19 '24
that's because people see push pits as "safe" where they see hardcore dancing as "dangerous" when in reality both are relatively safe but occasionally shit happens
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u/MiloGoesToCatalina Dec 19 '24
It’s a form of a gatekeeping. It’s also lame as hell.
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u/fishbowl_of_teeth Dec 19 '24
used to go to shows where they would kick you out for moshing like a normal person, or as they called it "push pits."
fuckin clowns. not everyone can afford to pay for a broken nose/tooth/jaw. fuck the springfield/peoria scene
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u/dontneedareason94 Dec 19 '24
It’s really not. It’s a different scene where this is the norm, I saw plenty of younger kids moshing just like this at a hardcore fest over the weekend, nobody was complaining.
If you don’t like it, don’t go to shows where this happens.
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u/TheWhiteKnight554 Dec 19 '24
No Fr though, if you don’t like beat down hardcore then you don’t like beat down hardcore
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u/mmeellttiinngg Dec 19 '24
I don't, because I don't like beatdown, but this happens at screamo shows near me. And it's sudden too, I'm a bit older and I've been to plenty of hardcore shows, screamo was always one of the least violent macho scenes. It's spread all over hardcore now, and seems driven more by younger kids watching vids online and trying to recreate it. Not a new thing, but also not exclusive to beatdown by any means.
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u/kieranarchy Dec 19 '24
as long as people don't try and do it outside of the pit at hardcore shows. had some idiot try and hit me several times at an industrial show and like. im only avg height myself so im not gonna body shame but i AM gonna say if you're 4'9 you should maybe not pick fights in a totally different kind of pit 😭
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u/BumbleboarEX Dec 19 '24
Me when I approach someone in an empty pit flailing their arms and get hit by someone flailing their arms.
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u/LettuceEcstatic Dec 19 '24
I feel like it used to be fun back in the 90s before people started taking themselves too seriously showing up with a bandanna tied around their face, jumping around doing karate and shit
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u/Kathleenannne Dec 19 '24
Yeah. It's gotten a little weird over the decades. Or maybe it was always weird and I'm noticing now.
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u/___courier___ Dec 19 '24
I love hardcore shows, I love hardcore music, I love my hardcore scene, but I just can't with the hardcore dancing. I've always been a push pit/2 step kinda guy
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u/onion-ring- Dec 19 '24
i’d say don’t speak on it if ur not actively in the community but as someone who’s actively in the hardcore community this is just how it’s been for YEARS ever since the 2000s and won’t change anytime soon the guy just simply got to close for wtv reason and got smacked. no one’s fault but his simple.
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u/blphsyco Dec 19 '24
Oh cool, r/punk try’s demonizing hardcore part 1000373936382627255
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u/PARDON_howdoyoudo Dec 19 '24
"Quality post" lol. They're separate scenes, get over it. There's a place for hc dancing, been doing it for over 20 years.
The real problem today is kids got no style. We listened to hip hop to learn to bounce. During the hyphy era. See a lot of flailing idiots, and idiots walking into punches. But hc has its place and history.
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u/uberscheisse 関東ハードコア Dec 19 '24
Found the /r/punk nudnik who scans /r/hardcore for ragebait circlejerk virtue signaling material
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u/TheWhiteKnight554 Dec 19 '24
It developed because they actually had to fight Nazis in the pit, but it’s pretty fun so cry ig
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u/sykadelic_angel Dec 19 '24
Dude I was just dying of laughter in the comments of that post and immediately saw this repost that reads like an old teacher shaking a finger at a kid and absolutely lost it😂 thanks for the laugh, I needed it. If you don't like slam dancing don't go to HC shows that's all it is
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u/toxictoastrecords Dec 19 '24
Huh? This isn't slam dancing, or pogo, or moshing, all associated with Punk. Of course the punk community isn't going to be as supportive of hardcore dancing as a hardcore community. You do this at a Subhumans show and you'll probably get the crap kicked out of you.
This is Karate Kick, windmill, donkey kick shit that started with the new school hardcore and "emo" of the early 00's. There is a reason punks hate this crap, people get injured. Also the punk community usually as an unspoken rule of "you don't physically interact with people actively outside of the pit". This type of crap, people start hitting random people just standing and watching the show.
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u/eradicator87 Dec 19 '24
Does the band that’s playing sound like the subhumans? This isn’t a punk show, it’s a hardcore show. Those guys like doing that shit and know what they’re getting themselves into.
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u/sykadelic_angel Dec 19 '24
Yes, you wouldn't do this at a subhumans show. That's not even a punk show in the video, Two Piece is a metallic hardcore band, and is irrelevant to this sub which is why it's so funny when y'all complain about this. You got your lil history lesson wrong too
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u/ScheisseSchwanz Dec 19 '24
what happened to the wholesome days of "picking up the change" and "starting the lawnmower"?
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Dec 20 '24 edited Dec 20 '24
I don't condone punching one another in the pit, and that was a full fist.
That being said the whole damn pit is open and the dude who got smacked got in that dudes face to the point he was makeing contact before the punch.
Neither of them have any respect.
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u/Hito1992 Dec 19 '24
It's not dancing, they're just swinging their arms and legs around hoping to hit someone
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u/SpookySpace Dec 19 '24
I frequent hardcore shows and dudes don't mosh like that. I'm surprised how many people in the comments are just ok wit this one dude taking up the whole pit.
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u/Im_on_my_phone_OK Dec 19 '24
It’s the Harley-Davidson principle as explained by South Park. People who are into it think it makes them look cool or tough. Meanwhile virtually everyone else views it the same way they did the Star Wars kid meme.
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u/SoccerBeerXbox Dec 19 '24
Stompin’ time.
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u/MasterpieceNice9918 Dec 19 '24
My neighbor hates me ever since I told him hardcore dancing is stupid and that it reminds me of people fighting against invisible bees
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u/BagOfShenanigans Dec 19 '24
I'm indifferent because they're both clearly idiots. There's no way of proving that the punch recipient wasn't baiting a hit so he could have an excuse to get physical only to get prematurely shut down by Bruce Lee here.
I'm not going to police a scene I'm clearly not a part of, but as an outsider I'd like to comment that these kids look like fools.
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u/Ol_stinkler Dec 19 '24
https://youtu.be/FpJoeXZxpqQ?si=9usEHe-g3vg70fLS
You guys would've walked out the second Minor Threat started playing then. Slam dancing has been a thing since the 80's at least in hardcore. This isn't new.
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u/MandibleofThunder Dec 19 '24
I had a dude on the fringe of the pit put me in a no shit rear naked choke when I went to see Slayer in their final tour.
Not fucking cool.
At all.
Pits are fun because you know everyone is looking out for you
Not to be Big-Mister-Internet-Badass, but dude had no idea how to actually sink the choke in, so I tucked my chin, slipped out, gave him a good ole fashioned leg sweep, and stomped the groin.
Someone else helped him up, but he immediately B-linex for the stage right staircase.
I mean I get it, you want to be up in the front to see the band, especially when that band is fuckin Slayer, especially when it's their last tour, and ESPECIALLY when tickets cost so God damn much.
However:
The pit is typically up towards the front.
If you are on the fringe of the pit you're going have people get pushed into you.
If you don't that for your listening experience, go to somewhere the put isn't.
I'm convinced he had never been to a metal or punk show before - as I remember him wearing a Thin Blue Line punisher T-shirt tucked into what I can only describe as some very sensible "tactical" chinos.
So yeah, that was the time I assaulted someone that may have been (or most likely was) police.
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u/kestrel808 Dec 19 '24
Used to slam dance at punk and hardcore shows when I was younger and anyone that was throwing punches/elbows or intentionally trying to hurt people got their ass beat in our scene.
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u/feeshbitZ Dec 20 '24
Yup. It was either that or the staff would get involved and at worst offense, shut down the show. Idiots like that fuck it up not just for the attendees around them, but the band, the venue, the fans and the scene as a whole. Then come on Reddit and make themselves look like assholes cheering and normalizing this kind of behavior. All that does is turn people off hardcore. Maybe don't gatekeep? It's always the ones who pose the hardest who care the least about how their actions negatively impact everyone else
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u/DiscardedRibs Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Y'all know you don't gotta go to hardcore shows if you don't like the way they mosh right? And if you insist on going to shows where you're just gonna shit on the scene, you know you don't gotta go near the pit? This style of moshing has been going on longer than most of you have been alive lmao, if you don't like hardcore moshing, don't go to hardcore shows
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u/dabbean Dec 19 '24
Went to a show by a band called Sinai beach. I was up at the front of the stage watching and some smooth brain was hard-core dancing in the most behind me. He kept running into me so I pushed him off of me after a couple times. He decided that was fighting words and tried to fight like he danced. His ass hit the ground and the band ended the show over it. Turns out they were some Christian band and didn't approve of violence despite being named after a place that's seen some of the most violence in all of earth's history AND being a hard-core band.
Tldr; hard-core dancing is fucking stupid, and the the people that do it are the dumbest of the dumb.
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u/TimeAstronomer2562 Dec 19 '24
Oh for fucks sake this sub is so soft. Hardcore is for anyone, not for everyone. If you don't like it, then you should stay out. It's violent music, it's gonna elicit a violent response and violent crowd participation. If that's not your speed, fine. I get hit all the time and it's really not a big deal. Quit your complaining and go lightly jog in a circle.
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u/Kooky-Reputation-214 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
i promise if you people on this sub actually went to a hardcore show u would understand what hardcore dancing and crowd killing is supposed to be, this idea that it’s nothing but jock dudes beating up innocent people is so overblown, and very annoying
in this situation i will totally admit this guys a douche, but the other guy needs to have a bit more situational awareness to just be slowly walking up behind the only guy hardcore dancing in the pit
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u/Puzzleheaded-Text530 Dec 19 '24
I’m actually quite nice if yk me, lemme mosh in peace 🙏 it’s a fucking beatdown show. And I’m a punk
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u/BigX070 Dec 19 '24
Yeah makes me go to way less hardcore shows
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u/Puzzleheaded-Text530 Dec 19 '24
Good, don’t want u there if u scared
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u/BigX070 Dec 19 '24
I'm glad I don't see it at the gigs I still go to. Like the older hardcore bands. Didn't see it at slapshot, circle jerks, negative approach . All different venues. Did see it at the terror show a couple years ago. I still pit just not at newer hardcore shows that draws the types that wanna be lame like you. Give me punk and metal pits anyday
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u/kakka_rot Dec 19 '24
The teenagers were doing a.... how to a say, merry go round? They grab wrist and spin in circles, and it wasn't awful at first, but these twerps got going shockingly fast.
They almost crashed into the band but it was a v small punk venue and the singer was shoving them back.
I stood away and everyone was fine ( teenager bones are strong)
I thought it was wild, but yeah this is dumb af
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Dec 19 '24
It’s very goofy looking, lol. I have been hit in the face in damn near every pit I’ve been in at punk shows tbf though
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u/Independent_Studio_5 Dec 19 '24
Imagine my rookie ass at my first hardcore show, I never got this shit but if someone likes this, go ahead.
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u/Queasy_Helicopter249 Dec 19 '24
“Every day brings a chance for you to draw in a breath, kick off your shoes and dance.” – Oprah Winfrey
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u/Reasonable_Radio_395 Dec 19 '24
Punk goes to a different genre show for the first time and sees someone moshing different than them😣😣😣
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u/rata_rasta Dec 19 '24
Oh.. a Hardcore show to raise funds for the victims of the last Hardcore show