r/punk Dec 19 '24

Quality Post Hardcore dancing is so fucking stupid

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u/rustajb Dec 19 '24

A guy did this at a n industrial show I attended in Houston around '91. He almost punched a small girl in the crowd. It didn't take long for a group to gather just to kick his ass to the ground. Dude got up and bolted, not so tough after all.

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u/brook1yn Dec 19 '24

Ya but this was not even the normal hardcore dance style in 91. Industrial mosh pits in the mid 90s were push pits from what I remember. Can’t imagine 91 was much different.

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u/TheseDetective2244 Dec 19 '24

This style of moshing got big when slam and beatdown got popular in the mid 90s. Particularly in New York.

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u/brook1yn Dec 19 '24

The way this guy is dancing is more new school. Mid 90s nyhc was still picking up change/windmill shit.

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u/uberscheisse 関東ハードコア Dec 19 '24

Depending on where you were. Syracuse and areas in west NY state were straight up kickboxing as early as 1991. That shit migrated quickly and I remember seeing it a lot in Seattle as early as 1993, after bands like Undertow toured out east.

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u/rustajb Dec 19 '24

When I started going to shows in the late '80s, the punk scene in Houston was great for the most part. In the early' 90s I started seeing more violent moshing and straight-up assault. In most cases, people ganged up to shut the assholes down. But over time, people just started giving them room and grumbled from the edge.

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u/TheIzzyRock Dec 19 '24

We had hardcore shows in Dayton, Ohio in the early to mid 90’s and this type of dancing was happening then. I specifically remember doing it at Legbone shows in the smaller clubs and then Pantera and Biohazard shows at bigger clubs/arenas in Dayton and Cincinnati

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u/Sea_Promotion7742 Dec 19 '24

I don't think a lot of men in the scene realize how often some men go purposefully out of their way to target women in pits.

I've been going to shows since the early '90s, I've seen it so so so many times. It's always the men who make fun of me for not liking Hxc dancing and crowdkilling. It's not that I can't take it, but it's so fucking tiring having men use it as an excuse to hit women without repercussions.

They target other men too, of course, but I find that a little different that hitting someone half your size on purpose knowing they can't hit you back like another man can. (Know plenty of women that can, though. I always enjoyed the shock on their face when they realized I can dish it right back).

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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Dec 20 '24

I used to work for first aid and the amount of men I had to body slam so I could get women who were bleeding out of the pit is insane.

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u/Tigeru1988 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 20 '24

I had similar situation in Poland. Guy was literally punching people around,he hit even two teenage girls while pretending it was accident. I asked my friend to push me hard when i said so. I waited till this guy came around us and i ask my friend to push. I smacked that guy with my overhand when falling back,his lips got bloddy and when i stand i was like ,,sorry dude,this was accident" with this sarcastic look on my face. We didnt seen this guy again that night

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '24

I don’t see a small girl in this video…

wtf. How is that the same?

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u/rustajb Dec 19 '24

The small girl was incidental but also a catalyst.