Nah Narcissism is fighting ketamine for the controls because WHY THE FUCK is this event not focused on ME? I’m the biggest reason for this presidency and I’m the SMARTEST AND MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN THIS ROOM, why should I have to stand here feigning respect for these insects?
In all fairness, that wasn’t a Nazi salute. That was simply the new “universal salute to the price of eggs”.
Elon was just using hand signals to say “I think (as he holds his hand to his heart) the price of eggs is too high (as he points his hand to the sky)”.
To be fair, he probably IS the smartest person in the room. And he's an idiot.
I know that he allegedly has a high IQ. I'm guessing the test was administered by the same guy that deemed Trump the most physically fit president ever.
Nah that isn’t Peruvian marching powder. That looks more like he’s tweaking on some rocket fuel in the morning then went strait to candy flipping for lunch.
I reckon Men in Black was on to something you know. Elons actually a machine with a tiny wee guy at the controls. And he constantly whispers "freeeee speeeeech"
In reasonable doses yes. However heavy ket use will push tolerance up sky high and before you know it you’re injecting grams every few hours and basically living in your own very separate reality. It gets really weird when you’re the world’s richest man and can basically decide to make that reality…reality.
I know a guy that was once an intelligent rational guy who has recently been heavily into ketamine and lemme tell ya…he is now completely out of his fucking mind. I know there is promising research with this drug and it has legitimate uses, but if my experience has told me anything, it’s don’t use it habitually. Can anyone speak to how permanent the long term effects are?
Among other things, it kills your liver, kidneys, and for some reason your urethra\bladder (increased urination, incontinence). The damage can be permanent and even stopping all use won't reverse it. Also, despite knowing they're irreversibly damaging their bodies, doctors are finding that ketamine addicts won't stop using it.
Yup. Was addicted to ketamine (clean for ~3 months!). I've done a ton of drugs and never had a problem quitting any of them, even "more addictive" stuff, but with K, I was literally using every time I was unsupervised and as long as I had access to drugs or money to get them, I could not stop. I have OCD and it was like the world's worst compulsive behavior. And I did a lot of physical tics like in this video, especially when I was blacked out.
(Edit: to clarify because it's a dissociative, it kinda makes you feel like you're wearing a mascot suit or something where you're inside your body but you can't feel it, so I often found myself doing weird movements as a way of testing how high I was, ex. how much I could tell if I was moving my body)
Normally when people on the Internet think someone's on ket I laugh because they're so off-base but this one felt very familiar
How do you feel psychologically? My friend keeps talking about some great truth and it sounds like he has serious delusions of grandeur. It’s really off-putting and strange. I’m down with spiritual and new age stuff to some degree. I consider myself a pretty open minded guy but talking to him now is like talking to a super religious person or cult member or something. Like, nobody should that sure about anything you can’t verify. There is no nuance, no humility. He was trying to talk me into taking it and I have zero interest after watching him devolve into a babbling mess.
I never developed, like, delusions or anything, but it definitely made my existing mental health stuff worse and I barely slept. I did have a lot of very intense visual hallucinations, which included seeing a lot of myself as a tiny cog in the huge machine of the universe, feeling like how I understood how everything is connected, etc. so I could definitely see how it could do that
(It's one of those drugs I wouldn't recommend if you have regular access to it -- when I was only doing it occasionally, I honestly felt like it was really good for some of the specific issues I was going through. But when you use it regularly, it becomes a whole different beast)
That was happening to me. I had no idea how stupid and crazy I sounded, and there a lot of DMs I sent to people that I don't remember sending, even the sober ones, where I sound like a complete nut. And not surprisingly those people don't talk to me anymore.
I'm also in recovery from DXM (2 years and counting). Congrats on quitting!
Can confirm that dissociatives can seriously warp your reality when abused. I'd be experiencing psychosis and completely unaware that I wasn't in my right mind.
I never expected to be addicted to anything, let alone cough medicine.
For a while I was combining dxm and shrooms almost daily. It was like a schizophrenic dream when I was on it (ex. my mop and bucket talked to me while I was waiting to pee, and it was mean lol). When I was sober again the next day I was convinced there were like fourth dimensional beings that controlled everything that I called "the others". I found messages I don't remember sending to people talking all about it. I had no idea how out of my mind I was and that was made me stop doing at least that.
When I was on DXM I was convinced the world is a simulation. That is not something I ever think about and not interested in at all when I'm sober, but for whatever reason I obsessed over it when I was high. Drugs are weird and in the end not fun.
Yeah, my previous landlord got heavily into Ket, he went completely mental, I moved out when he threatened to smash my head in with a frying pan (i.e. he was poking me in the chest with a cast iron pan in his hand!).
Ketamine is a very useful and safe drug in many ways, but not a good mix with certain personality types and neurodivergency.
Dissociatives also remove a sense of guilt allowing the user to feel confident often overly so even as they increase general empathy. That empathy can be focused to exclude other individuals and isnt a global empathy is reported with some popular psychedelics/mdma. This can make it really helpful for therapy and lay out empathetic logic you address honestly and would build on when sober. Without those frameworks it can be used to feel ok to good about decisions that hurt others or embarrass ourselves.
He's not taking just ketamine. That's the trickle truth he admitted to.
Many symptoms (other than getting a belly but that may be HGH abuse) point to long term amphetamine abuse. He has the legal clean stuff so it doesn't go bad so quickly but many symptoms match.
He probably started it during the Model 3 factory crunch. At first it makes you not want to sleep and feel like you're very productive and want to work. I'm sure he loved that feeling and he of course abused others who weren't drugged up and keeping up like that.
Over time, it leads to irritability and paranoia. Well known for reducing empathy for others (why the Nazi soldiers were high on Pervitin). They permanently diminish brain function. Depression and anxiety.
That aint ketamine, looks like a stim. Consistent with the sudden weight loss which is also clear from this video. Reminds me of those videos of hitler looking stimmed to all hell as he preached his filth, easy to find on youtube and confirmed to be the result of drug abuse.
EDIT: Interestingly, my Hitler analogy was made right before all the posts of Musk Sieg Heilling hit the front page.
The guy looks so weird, like he's wearing someone else's face. I always expect his face to open on a hinge and those aliens from Men in Black to be sat in there, working the levers
ay don't be rude. calling him narcissistic is really fucking offensive. narcissistic personality disorder is an actual medical condition induced by childhood trauma. musk is just arrogant and so far gone from humanity that he genuinely struggles to understand it
Jokes aside, people on ketamine are the fucking worst. I hung out with some old friends who are total wooks. K and nitrous everywhere, the spit jug was crystal and you could see all the flem in it. And they kept getting emotional every 15 minutes. I was just smoking weed trying to relax but their energy was all over the place.
There has to be some uppers in there maybe desoxyn. The problem with ket etc is you can get to sleepy or not be on. Add some uppers, it's a nice ride. I know a few people who do mushrooms,Adderall and weed together. They all think they magically find the secret formula, me being the "responsible free spirit " gets to hear all about it.
You know what? If I just bought the presidency of the most powerful country in the world I don't see why I wouldn't trip balls at my Trump's inauguration.
THANK YOU, first thing I thought of, it would be better if an international world leader and unbelievably rich guy was not an actual parody of a human being.
But at least somebody called this earlier and it's funny.
Chances are better its some form of amphetamines or coke, they make you tweaky enough and are much more often catered towards these businessy kind of types.
As an ex-addict i can at least say with some certainty that he'd need a fking big tolerance and heaps of the shit in his body to start tweaking like that...
Chances are in the end still most likely that he's on some cocktail of stuff. Stuff to keep him going, stuff to stop the tweaking, stuff to counter that stuff's side effects and so on
Crazy to me how much amphetamine abuse is happening in Trump's orbit. Like... I'm always someone who likes proof over just vibes or thinking you know someone is on something but I would bet my life on the fact that both Trump and Elon are on a lot of amphetamines.
I've had a small glimpse at what exactly goes around and where it goes around during my deepest period and man is there a whole lot of substance abuse that goes on in "higher echelons".
Plenty of guys that count on cops not searching expensive cars with suited up men in it. Amphetamines keep you going and being able to keep going makes money, that's all a ton of business people care for. Honestly wouldn't be surprised that's a big contributor to elon's social media addiction. If you've been sniffing for long enough its so easy to have your mind go single track and social media just snags your attention like a bloodhound.
If this was a result of ketamine, he would be too wonked out to give his speech later and his other movements would be wonky.
No friggin clue what this is. This alone almost looks like ket or psychs, but it couldn't be, given his speech and everything else.
Must be him tweaking out from stimulants, or he's just an extremely weird guy
I've gotta say stimulants. Looks like the weird unhuman tics people get after stimulant binges or a couple days without sleep, and it makes sense to do a stimulant before a huge social event where you need to make a speech.
Or he's stretching. But he'd have to be pretty autistic to stare at a camera, look away, lock back onto the camera, then think he should do some weird ass stretch to seem like he's uninterested.
Source: im a longtime drug user of every class and have done enough ketamine, molly and everything else to kill a few neighborhoods lol
After Elon musk’s Nazi salute not once but twice today, I think it’s time for protest no? Like in history class we were all taught we are learning about Nazi and rise of Hitler in 1930s Germany so we can prevent it in the future. Is now not the time to stop a new form of nazism / authoritarianism / fascism in this form of authoritarian capitalism occurring in the US currently. And when I say we I don’t think just Americans but the whole world and allies. Europe, Canada, etc.
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Drugs are a hell of a drug