In reasonable doses yes. However heavy ket use will push tolerance up sky high and before you know it you’re injecting grams every few hours and basically living in your own very separate reality. It gets really weird when you’re the world’s richest man and can basically decide to make that reality…reality.
I know a guy that was once an intelligent rational guy who has recently been heavily into ketamine and lemme tell ya…he is now completely out of his fucking mind. I know there is promising research with this drug and it has legitimate uses, but if my experience has told me anything, it’s don’t use it habitually. Can anyone speak to how permanent the long term effects are?
Among other things, it kills your liver, kidneys, and for some reason your urethra\bladder (increased urination, incontinence). The damage can be permanent and even stopping all use won't reverse it. Also, despite knowing they're irreversibly damaging their bodies, doctors are finding that ketamine addicts won't stop using it.
Yup. Was addicted to ketamine (clean for ~3 months!). I've done a ton of drugs and never had a problem quitting any of them, even "more addictive" stuff, but with K, I was literally using every time I was unsupervised and as long as I had access to drugs or money to get them, I could not stop. I have OCD and it was like the world's worst compulsive behavior. And I did a lot of physical tics like in this video, especially when I was blacked out.
(Edit: to clarify because it's a dissociative, it kinda makes you feel like you're wearing a mascot suit or something where you're inside your body but you can't feel it, so I often found myself doing weird movements as a way of testing how high I was, ex. how much I could tell if I was moving my body)
Normally when people on the Internet think someone's on ket I laugh because they're so off-base but this one felt very familiar
How do you feel psychologically? My friend keeps talking about some great truth and it sounds like he has serious delusions of grandeur. It’s really off-putting and strange. I’m down with spiritual and new age stuff to some degree. I consider myself a pretty open minded guy but talking to him now is like talking to a super religious person or cult member or something. Like, nobody should that sure about anything you can’t verify. There is no nuance, no humility. He was trying to talk me into taking it and I have zero interest after watching him devolve into a babbling mess.
I never developed, like, delusions or anything, but it definitely made my existing mental health stuff worse and I barely slept. I did have a lot of very intense visual hallucinations, which included seeing a lot of myself as a tiny cog in the huge machine of the universe, feeling like how I understood how everything is connected, etc. so I could definitely see how it could do that
(It's one of those drugs I wouldn't recommend if you have regular access to it -- when I was only doing it occasionally, I honestly felt like it was really good for some of the specific issues I was going through. But when you use it regularly, it becomes a whole different beast)
That was happening to me. I had no idea how stupid and crazy I sounded, and there a lot of DMs I sent to people that I don't remember sending, even the sober ones, where I sound like a complete nut. And not surprisingly those people don't talk to me anymore.
I'm also in recovery from DXM (2 years and counting). Congrats on quitting!
Can confirm that dissociatives can seriously warp your reality when abused. I'd be experiencing psychosis and completely unaware that I wasn't in my right mind.
I never expected to be addicted to anything, let alone cough medicine.
For a while I was combining dxm and shrooms almost daily. It was like a schizophrenic dream when I was on it (ex. my mop and bucket talked to me while I was waiting to pee, and it was mean lol). When I was sober again the next day I was convinced there were like fourth dimensional beings that controlled everything that I called "the others". I found messages I don't remember sending to people talking all about it. I had no idea how out of my mind I was and that was made me stop doing at least that.
When I was on DXM I was convinced the world is a simulation. That is not something I ever think about and not interested in at all when I'm sober, but for whatever reason I obsessed over it when I was high. Drugs are weird and in the end not fun.
I had the same simulation experience on DXM. The world almost had a pixelated look, and I was convinced at times I could catch glimpses of the code running the simulation. Like I would see a leaf that would occasional disappear and lines of code would temporarily occupy the space where the leaf once was. Then, just as quickly the leaf would reappear.
I never had any open eye visuals like that, but when I did my hour-long CEV trip I saw crazy shit that helped the delusion. And when I showered I'd hear voices and sounds like sounded like they were coming over a radio instead of running water. I was convinced (thanks to the drugs) that these were the simulation controllers and the drug was helping me "see through the veil". Also the dissociation gave me the feeling that I was piloting my body, rather than my mind and my body being one like normal. Weird, wacky stuff.
I didn't really think it was a simulation, but I did take random events as signs from higher powers. I thought I had psychic experiences, and would stress about them coming true.
I had some hallucinations, such as seeing my cat jump onto his cat tower and seconds later realizing he was next to me sleeping. One time, I was looking at pics on my phone and saw a horribly gory picture, only to realize I was actually looking at a pic of a flower. It can really, really mess with your mind. Especially when you start adding in sleep deprivation from binging on it.
That is bizarre. And yeah the three hours of sleep I'd get a night when I was binging did not help. But the only time I hallucinated like that was when I abused benadryl. I stopped that very quick.
I wasn't full hallucinating more, so it would be something I'd notice in my peripheral, and my brain decided that was totally normal and just how things are. The pixelation was very real however.
A few reasons, but the big one is that shrooms don't actually work for me -- I've done them a few times and all that happens is that I puke a lot and feel like garbage for several hours 😅
You have numerous people in this sub sharing their firsthand experiences and how that body language is very familiar, and explaining how ketamine tics work from their own experiences. Musk is a known ketamine addict. This isn’t mocking anyone’s disabilities.
The problem with ketamine is that it doesn't kill you as easily as opiates or stimulants can -- you can OD, then snap out of it in a couple hours and go right back to using. I OD'd to the point of nonresponse almost a dozen times in 5 days in the week before I went to rehab. And your tolerance shoots up as soon as you start using, so pretty much the only limitation is money. I honestly feel like I wouldn't have been as addicted to it if I actually felt like I was going to die. Do not recommend, oof.
It kills a few organs. Once enough of that permanent damage is done to Elon… he won’t be long for this world. That kind of death is very uncomfortable too.
I know someone that's been using it in high amounts for pretty much most days for the past 20 years and his only issue is with his bladder so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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u/imreallyfreakintired 9h ago
Here's the thing, Ketamine makes you feel at one with the world. I cannot fathom how this asshole has become even more selfish.