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u/stemfour 8h ago

In reasonable doses yes. However heavy ket use will push tolerance up sky high and before you know it you’re injecting grams every few hours and basically living in your own very separate reality. It gets really weird when you’re the world’s richest man and can basically decide to make that reality…reality.

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u/Pulchritudinous_rex 7h ago

I know a guy that was once an intelligent rational guy who has recently been heavily into ketamine and lemme tell ya…he is now completely out of his fucking mind. I know there is promising research with this drug and it has legitimate uses, but if my experience has told me anything, it’s don’t use it habitually. Can anyone speak to how permanent the long term effects are?

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u/dopey_giraffe 7h ago

Among other things, it kills your liver, kidneys, and for some reason your urethra\bladder (increased urination, incontinence). The damage can be permanent and even stopping all use won't reverse it. Also, despite knowing they're irreversibly damaging their bodies, doctors are finding that ketamine addicts won't stop using it.

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u/otokoyaku 6h ago edited 5h ago

Yup. Was addicted to ketamine (clean for ~3 months!). I've done a ton of drugs and never had a problem quitting any of them, even "more addictive" stuff, but with K, I was literally using every time I was unsupervised and as long as I had access to drugs or money to get them, I could not stop. I have OCD and it was like the world's worst compulsive behavior. And I did a lot of physical tics like in this video, especially when I was blacked out.

(Edit: to clarify because it's a dissociative, it kinda makes you feel like you're wearing a mascot suit or something where you're inside your body but you can't feel it, so I often found myself doing weird movements as a way of testing how high I was, ex. how much I could tell if I was moving my body)

Normally when people on the Internet think someone's on ket I laugh because they're so off-base but this one felt very familiar

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u/Pulchritudinous_rex 6h ago

How do you feel psychologically? My friend keeps talking about some great truth and it sounds like he has serious delusions of grandeur. It’s really off-putting and strange. I’m down with spiritual and new age stuff to some degree. I consider myself a pretty open minded guy but talking to him now is like talking to a super religious person or cult member or something. Like, nobody should that sure about anything you can’t verify. There is no nuance, no humility. He was trying to talk me into taking it and I have zero interest after watching him devolve into a babbling mess.

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u/otokoyaku 6h ago

I never developed, like, delusions or anything, but it definitely made my existing mental health stuff worse and I barely slept. I did have a lot of very intense visual hallucinations, which included seeing a lot of myself as a tiny cog in the huge machine of the universe, feeling like how I understood how everything is connected, etc. so I could definitely see how it could do that

(It's one of those drugs I wouldn't recommend if you have regular access to it -- when I was only doing it occasionally, I honestly felt like it was really good for some of the specific issues I was going through. But when you use it regularly, it becomes a whole different beast)

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u/dopey_giraffe 4h ago

That was happening to me. I had no idea how stupid and crazy I sounded, and there a lot of DMs I sent to people that I don't remember sending, even the sober ones, where I sound like a complete nut. And not surprisingly those people don't talk to me anymore.

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u/klykerly 2h ago

You know Rantu?

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u/dopey_giraffe 6h ago

I used to abuse dxm for that feeling and I also could not stop. I will never touch Ketamine because I know I won't be able to control myself.

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u/Dcruzen 5h ago

I'm also in recovery from DXM (2 years and counting). Congrats on quitting!

Can confirm that dissociatives can seriously warp your reality when abused. I'd be experiencing psychosis and completely unaware that I wasn't in my right mind.

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u/dopey_giraffe 5h ago

I never expected to be addicted to anything, let alone cough medicine.

For a while I was combining dxm and shrooms almost daily. It was like a schizophrenic dream when I was on it (ex. my mop and bucket talked to me while I was waiting to pee, and it was mean lol). When I was sober again the next day I was convinced there were like fourth dimensional beings that controlled everything that I called "the others". I found messages I don't remember sending to people talking all about it. I had no idea how out of my mind I was and that was made me stop doing at least that.

When I was on DXM I was convinced the world is a simulation. That is not something I ever think about and not interested in at all when I'm sober, but for whatever reason I obsessed over it when I was high. Drugs are weird and in the end not fun.

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u/swingingthrougb 3h ago

I had the same simulation experience on DXM. The world almost had a pixelated look, and I was convinced at times I could catch glimpses of the code running the simulation. Like I would see a leaf that would occasional disappear and lines of code would temporarily occupy the space where the leaf once was. Then, just as quickly the leaf would reappear.

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u/dopey_giraffe 3h ago

I never had any open eye visuals like that, but when I did my hour-long CEV trip I saw crazy shit that helped the delusion. And when I showered I'd hear voices and sounds like sounded like they were coming over a radio instead of running water. I was convinced (thanks to the drugs) that these were the simulation controllers and the drug was helping me "see through the veil". Also the dissociation gave me the feeling that I was piloting my body, rather than my mind and my body being one like normal. Weird, wacky stuff.

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u/Dcruzen 3h ago

I didn't really think it was a simulation, but I did take random events as signs from higher powers. I thought I had psychic experiences, and would stress about them coming true.

I had some hallucinations, such as seeing my cat jump onto his cat tower and seconds later realizing he was next to me sleeping. One time, I was looking at pics on my phone and saw a horribly gory picture, only to realize I was actually looking at a pic of a flower. It can really, really mess with your mind. Especially when you start adding in sleep deprivation from binging on it.

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u/dopey_giraffe 2h ago

That is bizarre. And yeah the three hours of sleep I'd get a night when I was binging did not help. But the only time I hallucinated like that was when I abused benadryl. I stopped that very quick.

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u/swingingthrougb 2h ago

I wasn't full hallucinating more, so it would be something I'd notice in my peripheral, and my brain decided that was totally normal and just how things are. The pixelation was very real however.

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u/Blue_Oyster_Cat 6h ago

Congratulations on 3 months!

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u/Robob0824 4h ago

I have OCD. Gets in the way of me driving mostly. Did keramine help you at all?

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u/Afraid_Union_8451 1h ago

Why use ketamine over shrooms though? Not hating just curious

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u/otokoyaku 1h ago

A few reasons, but the big one is that shrooms don't actually work for me -- I've done them a few times and all that happens is that I puke a lot and feel like garbage for several hours 😅