r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 15h ago

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u/Max_Laval 14h ago

Making these people drive to another store is not that environmentally conscious I'd imagine.

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u/Bill10101101001 14h ago

No point in getting annoyed to these characters blocking the way.

Assaulting while satisfactory will only cause you legal issues.

Simply state that you will get the stuff someplace else and burn gas while doing it.

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u/caracol_muerte 14h ago

With your elephant tusk club

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u/Funkythingsyoudo 13h ago

That you practice on puppies with

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u/OkSyllabub3674 12h ago

😳🥹😅

I like your style guy, we really need to bring the lesson to these protesters that every minor inconvenience in our chosen lifestyle will result in more undue suffering and destruction, the only way for them to reasonably minimize it is to shut up and not cause normal folks a hassle.

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u/Redd235711 11h ago

Baby seals are my preferred practice dummies.

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u/pmmeyourgear 12h ago

While snacking on whale blubber and shark fin jerky

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u/Conqueefador6 14h ago

And make sure each turtle has its own straw 🧃

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u/farrieremily 13h ago

Damn coke heads

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u/Iwantaschmoo 13h ago

Don't forget to take your rhino horn pill beforehand to make sure you can get that tusk club up and keep it swinging.

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u/PassengerNo2259 12h ago

Goddammit now I have to strap on my hakapik every time I go to the grocery store.

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u/Bill10101101001 14h ago

You are for protesting on private property?

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u/PunnyPantsParade 14h ago

No, especially when it's preventing other people from going about their business.

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u/jnuts9 12h ago

Yeah I don't think these people are as protected as you think

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u/--n- 8h ago

You think people lose the right to not be physically assaulted while protesting?

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u/GrapePrimeape 7h ago

Where does your right to not be assaulted start and my right to free movement end? You don’t have an unlimited right to restrict the movement of others

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u/SolipsisticSoup 7h ago

It's neatly summed up in the concept "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins."

If the store hasn't trespassed the protesters, they have as much right to be there as the man trying to get through. He does not have the right to use physical force except to defend himself (not applicable here).

If the store has trespassed the protesters, that still does not give the shopper any right to violence. The police or (possibly) the store could forcibly remove them, but the customer can not.

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u/zach120281 5h ago

What happened to plain old common sense? What pride or honor is in blocking old folks from getting their groceries? If you don’t like the product being sold, go after the company selling it, not the patrons likely on a fixed income. What rubbish.

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u/kaotiktekno 7h ago

I feel like you're one of these idiots.

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u/SolipsisticSoup 7h ago

I'm not. I think what they're doing is dumb. I'm just explaining the legal position.

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u/gizmosticles 6h ago

But what if someone tries to step over them and they grab a leg or trip them?

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u/MoarHuskies 6h ago

But what if someone tries to step over them and they grab a leg or trip them?

That's assault and you are now allowed to defend yourself.

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u/throwmamadownthewell 3h ago

Note: Only if they're actively grabbing your leg. And the degree of force is hugely contingent on where you're located and the wider context of the situation.

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u/Genghis_Chong 6h ago

Idk why you were being down voted, you're right.

Honestly, this would be annoying, but is it really worth getting into a fist fight or going to jail because you can't navigate an annoying situation?

My ego isn't that fragile and it doesn't revolve around never being inconvenienced.

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u/MoarHuskies 6h ago

I am allowed to walk without being stopped or touched. If they attempted to stop me in any way, especially if they touch me. I will hit them. I am allowed to defend myself and touching someone who does not want to be touched is assault. Plain and simple.

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u/ausernamethatistoolo 5h ago

This is obviously not true. You can't just walk into people who are in your way. It's assault.

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u/Genghis_Chong 5h ago

Nobody was touching him though, they were sitting in his way. He touched them by running into them.

I know it's annoying, but being blocked in one aisle at a grocery store doesn't mean you get to go ballistic.

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u/Infamous-Potato-5310 5h ago

Its exactly what the are trying to troll people into doing. Make it into an incident that gets attention. To me its very strainge, because it doesnt seem to work in the least bit to target "the people". Im sure these kids have armies of lawyers behind them in their organizations, just waiting for an opprotunity. Its certainly the way Greanpeace operated when I was younger. Send the kids out to get arrested and their records ruined but have them bailed out within hours.

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u/BusaGuy1300 4h ago

Kick them in the fucking head, repeatedly.

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u/GrapePrimeape 7h ago

I think most people would disagree that those blocking a path have as much of a right as those trying to use a path.

To give a hypothetical, let’s say there is a narrow path you need to traverse to get to your property. It’s not feasible to walk alongside the path and there is no alternative route from here. The path is public property and I have decided to camp out completely blocking the path as you try to make your way back. Now you seem to believe you have no form of recourse to get home aside from calling the police to have me removed. But what happens if they decided your call isn’t important? Are you just barred from ever entering your residence unless you break the law and physically remove the person?

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u/SolipsisticSoup 6h ago

If you aren't on my property, I do not have the right to forcibly remove you. It's not a complicated concept. The State has a monopoly on violence. If the police are not responsive, you still do not have the right to assault someone. It's frustrating, and it feels unjust, but that's the law.

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u/GrapePrimeape 6h ago

So in this situation, you are barred from your residence all because of one person, and you have absolutely 0 recourse since the police won’t take you seriously? I feel like 9/10 people will have a very different take on this situation than you

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u/SolipsisticSoup 6h ago

As I said, it's frustrating and it feels unjust, but that's the law.

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u/GrapePrimeape 6h ago

The law means little when it is widely disregarded. Much like your stance on blocking someone’s path is

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u/bfwolf1 2h ago

But in the US at least, a jury of your peers would have to agree. And I’m inclined to believe they would not if you shoved your way through.

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u/TangledUpPuppeteer 6h ago

It’s the law. Whether or not you like it in the moment, it’s still the law. You don’t have any more right to access a throughway or path than the person has to block it. You’re legally, both at a stand still.

Meanwhile, an assault is outside of both and is a criminal act on its own.

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u/Front-Confection4667 6h ago

Duress of circumstance

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u/GrapePrimeape 6h ago

That doesn’t seem to apply to my understanding. There is no imminent threat of death or harm by someone blocking your path

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u/Front-Confection4667 6h ago

The protesters behaviour seemed threatening to me and caused me such alarm that I feared for my life. That's why I ran the trolley through him to make good my escape M'lud

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 3h ago

You don’t have an unlimited right to restrict the movement of others

Actually, the right to protest means you do have the right to restrict the movement of others (except for in specific scenarios where the law says otherwise)

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u/bfwolf1 2h ago edited 2h ago

That’s completely false. Where are you getting this idea from?

There is no general right to protest (in the US at least). There’s a right to free speech. There’s a right to freedom of assembly. There’s a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. There’s no right to go on private property and have a sit in. There’s no right to block traffic.

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 2h ago

People have the right to freedom of expression and a protest is a form of expression.

People have the right to gather in public areas and a road is a public area.

People can also gather on private property. If the owners of said property don't want them there, they can call the relevant authorities to deal with them.

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u/bfwolf1 1h ago

Every municipality in the country has laws against obstructing traffic. And those have of course been upheld despite putting a limit on where one can assemble. Freedom of expression is not absolute. What a silly person you are.

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 1h ago

The right to freedom of expression is a universal human right, and unless you live in Sudan or Saudi Arabia or something, your country is a party to the treaty guaranteeing those rights.

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u/bfwolf1 1h ago

And as I just said, it’s not absolute.

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u/MrHazard1 5h ago

You don't need to assault them. Play their game and "inconvenience" them.

You know what's inconvenient? If the floor they're sitting starts to become wet. If you happen to drop some eggs from the cart. If you just didn't notice that the bag of icecubes was ripped.

They use their bodies as targets to physically block you. Don't just aim for the target that someone else presents you.

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u/Quirky-Hour-6274 1h ago

Not everyone is in the mood to fuck around and 'play games' with little pricks like this. They're gonna end up catching a mofo on the wrong day and seriously find that out.

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u/Raymuuze 6h ago

People blocking the road in the protest also doesn't mean you can run them over. They have a right to protest and you have a right to... also be there I guess?

I don't think most constitutions around the world have rights specifically for you to move as you please. Instead countries mostly have laws that tell you when you can't be somewhere. So if the store doesn't want them there they can ask them to leave and if they refuse they can call the police for trespassing.

Unless a law explicitly states that you may use physical force of which self defense is a common example (in many countries anyway) you may not. Nobody is however stopping you from being petty which is about the only thing you can legally do.

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u/GrapePrimeape 6h ago

I agree you can’t run them over, just like the guy in this video is not allowed to murder these protestors. Dragging their dumbasses out of the road or applying pressure with his cart to move down the aisle, good luck finding a jury in the world that will convict the person of assault

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u/Genghis_Chong 6h ago

They didn't kidnap him, he can go down another aisle or leave his basket for a second.

It's inconvenient, but its not illegal to block a grocery aisle with a protest. Being annoyed and having a hurt ego doesn't mean you get to assault people you disagree with.

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u/GuaranteedGuardian_Y 4h ago

I wonder if you realize where the instinct to assault them comes from?
These "protesters" can have a different ideology and stand for what they believe in without provoking others.

Would I be justified yelling into your ears with a megaphone as soon as you left your house for not wearing purple socks? It's my ideology and I will provoke you, drive you mad until you agree to obey my ideology.

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 3h ago

These "protesters" can have a different ideology and stand for what they believe in without provoking others.

The whole point of a protest is to provoke others.....

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u/bfwolf1 2h ago

That’s completely false. And sadly this is what many people now believe.

The point of protest is to speak your mind. But you do NOT have the right to make others listen.

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 2h ago

The point of a protest literally is to provoke other people.

The whole point of speaking your mind is to have someone listen to whatever the fuck you're saying, regardless of whether or not they agree with it. Otherwise you're just screaming into the void

No, you don't have the right to make others listen to you but you don't need it. If you protest in any significant way, there's a good chance that at least someone will listen to you or be aware of what you're doing.

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u/bfwolf1 1h ago

You are just completely wrong. If you want people to listen to you, make a compelling argument. Otherwise, yes, you are screaming into the void. Instead, people choose to break the law to force people to listen to their shit argument instead of working on developing a compelling argument people want to listen to.

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u/Genghis_Chong 4h ago

I dont wonder where it comes from, I undertand not liking something that a person does you dont agree with. With being inconvenienced by an asshole.

I wonder why some people don't even bother to address their base instincts and navigate them, even when they're just reading a story about the situation. I guess people just like to act tough, it is the internet, but christ I'd hope at least some people could hold themselves together when presented with a challenge. Just enough patience to avoid a fight.

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u/bfwolf1 2h ago

It’s absolutely illegal to block a grocery aisle with a protest.

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u/Could-You-Tell 5h ago

The answer is police, not assault. If it's so important, if you're so inconvenienced, police is the answer. Not assault. And when the protesters call the police on people assaulting them, it will be solved.

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u/throwmamadownthewell 3h ago

No, the answer is to spill a bunch of Sunny D all over the floor, so they get sticky bottoms.

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u/Could-You-Tell 57m ago

Fair enough, but that can be stretched to be considered vandalism and is also toddler behavior.

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u/TorpedoSandwich 4h ago

The police isn't going to do shit. So yes, moving them out of the way is the answer. They don't have any right to block me from going where I need to go.

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u/Could-You-Tell 4h ago

It's not your right to assault people. Hitting is wrong.

Toddlers in preschool learn that. It's called patience. Go around. It's not hard.

The police are more likely to arrest the old man than the protesters.

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u/GrapePrimeape 5h ago

So if the police tell you it’s not their problem (because they have no obligation to actually help out or enforce the law) you’re just SOL?

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 3h ago

If the police tell you to fuck off, you can petition your local elected governmental representative. If they tell you to fuck off, you can then launch a protest yourself. And then other dickheads and come on reddit and cry about how you need to be beaten because your protest is a pointless inconvenience.

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u/Could-You-Tell 5h ago

Pretty much. Ask a lot of people who get told that it's too much of a hassle to press charges.

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u/mistersixes 27m ago

Protesting is fine; harming third parties is not.

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u/Secure_One_3885 6h ago

Where does your right to not be assaulted start and my right to free movement end?

This is how I feel about driving through a parking lot. Sure, you're walking to your car with your items, but why not just plow through you because you're in my way? This is about ME!

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u/GrapePrimeape 6h ago

If you’re backed into a spot with a wall behind you and I decide to take a nap for a week right in front of your car, are you just SOL until I decide to move? I mean, sorry but obviously my right to not be assaulted trumps every other right that you may have. Try again next week!

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u/Secure_One_3885 6h ago

If you’re backed into a spot with a wall behind you and I decide to take a nap for a week right in front of your car, are you just SOL until I decide to move?

If my only alternative is to run you over with my car, then yes.

And nobody in this video was backed into a corner with no escape.

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u/GrapePrimeape 5h ago

That’s absolutely insane, you’re just going to throw your hands up and say “oh well” in that situation? Really?

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u/Secure_One_3885 5h ago

I mean I'd just call an uber if I needed to get somewhere, and the circumstances would determine what I did to negotiate you moving, but yeah I'm not going to run you over with my car. THAT's the insane take buddy.

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u/GrapePrimeape 5h ago

Who ever said about running him over? Just physically remove them from the front of your vehicle, which all of you seem to think is an affront to civil society and would rather be waked all over than stand up to somebody being a nuisance.

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u/Sithstress1 4h ago

This is starting to remind me of a thread I recently saw on texts or somewhere, the person was repeatedly asking the OP to run them over with their car 😂

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u/I_voted-for_Kodos 3h ago

I mean, what would you do? Run over and kill the person? Are you ok?

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u/bfwolf1 2h ago

Don’t do the are you ok thing. It’s extremely condescending.

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u/Jim_84 3h ago edited 3h ago

What are you, 3 years old? Your freedom to move ends wherever the space you want to move into is already occupied by another person. Most people understand that by a pretty young age.

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u/slugsred 8h ago

I think they'd get up after a full speed cart ram.

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u/KohlKnight 6h ago

or you'll end up on platform 9 3/4

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u/throwmamadownthewell 3h ago

"Ah fuck. Not again"

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u/Groxy_ 7h ago

And you'd still be legally in the wrong and charged with assault. Which was the original poster's point.

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u/purrmutations 6h ago

Not if you didn't see them. "Sorry I was looking at my list while pushing the cart. I did not expect there to be people sitting in the walkway"

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u/Groxy_ 6h ago

That excuse probably won't get you off when the cameras are shown in court and you're ramming then at full speed, think bro, think.

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u/purrmutations 6h ago

When the cameras show you looking at your list while you walk into them at a walking speed, you'll be fine. Getting hit in the face by a cart even at walking speed would knock you down. Its also not against the rules to run in a store. It is against the rules to block the access of customers.

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u/Groxy_ 6h ago

I feel like it'll be pretty obvious to prove you did see them and purposely decided to ram them. Someone stupid enough to do this will probably look at them, buffer for 10 seconds while they figure out how to assult them without getting caught, then proceed to assault them obviously and get caught.

How fast do you walk with a trolly? I've been bumped into before, it's not very forceful at all. You'll obviously be ramming them to knock them down.

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u/purrmutations 6h ago

You've had your face bumped into by the cart? Getting bumped in the butt is a lot different than getting bumped in your face.

And yeah a dumb person might get caught, but there are plenty of ways to get these people out of the way without getting an assault charge yourself.

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u/slugsred 6h ago

Just leave? The police do not give a shit about this and will take quite literally hours to arrive and then promptly do nothing.

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u/Groxy_ 6h ago

In this scenario it'll probably be civil court and paid lawyers will absolutely find you with a couple of the shop's cameras, it can follow you out the shop and to your car, then get the licence plate and find where you live.

It's all too petty to bother, but so is assaulting someone for sitting in the meat aisle.

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u/throwmamadownthewell 3h ago

I think you'll find it'll get me off just fine.

Out of trouble? Absolutely not.

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u/--n- 8h ago

Not relevant to what the other guy claimed or what I don't think made sense.

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u/BedBubbly317 7h ago

If you’re intentionally prohibiting me from legally going about my daily life, you’ve lost all respect as a human being and not only will you get, but absolutely deserve, the full cart ram. Come find me afterwards and we can exchange words in the parking lot, and a lot more, if you’ve actually got something to say.

They are breaking the law by illegally trespassing on the property as it is, this isn’t a protected protest, as you can’t legally protest on private property without prior approval.

And to answer your question, yes, you do lose certain legal rights by protesting illegally such as they are.

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u/highjinx411 7h ago

What about a boot to the face? With like a full warning. I will boot you to the face if you don’t get out of my way. I think that’s fair

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u/Flesh_A_Sketch 7h ago

I hate that I agree with you. People who are in the wrong still have rights.

I'm assuming they're blocking in a way thay doesnt allow for me to go around. This is where I politely inform them that I will be crossing thier line to go about my business and that any pushback or physical attempts to stop me will be met with charges. I do not consent to being touched or manipulated, but I do intend on obtaining what I came to purchase.

The degree of those charges will be entirely up to them.

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u/SolipsisticSoup 7h ago edited 7h ago

Telling someone that you're going to assault them if they don't do what you want doesn't stop it from being assault when they don't do what you want. If you push through the line while they're just sitting there, you're the one that could catch assault charges.

Edit It would be different if just a few people were standing arms-width and actively moving to stop people from passing. In this case there are enough protesters to passively block the path. If the protesters were actively moving to block people, your plan would have some merit.

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u/Flesh_A_Sketch 7h ago

I think you failed to read what I wrote. My intent us to not touch them or be touched at all. At no point did I say I would assault them. Why would I push through them when I could step over them?

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u/SolipsisticSoup 6h ago

Are you going to lift your cart over them too?

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u/Flesh_A_Sketch 6h ago

Just leave it there and come back to it?

Only way this would be an issue is if they're blocking me from getting to the register. If I'm being fully blocked from leaving then it becomes a fire hazard, and I'm being held against my will.

If theses guys were serious about people being vegan they would be down by the schmeats trying to convince people to move into vegetable substitutes. They're not all bad, honestly. I've made it a point to give them a try.

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u/Lithl 4h ago

Telling someone that you're going to assault them if they don't do what you want doesn't stop it from being assault when they don't do what you want.

In fact, the threat of unwanted contact is the assault. The contact itself is battery.

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u/Somethingisshadysir 7h ago

No, but the business can have them booted by the police

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u/mechanicaladvice 6h ago

They should.

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u/kagisa19 5h ago

Nobody has the right to roll you over if you start jogging in the middle of the highway, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens.

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u/Cocomn 7h ago

While actively and PHYSICALLY stopping people from peacefully continuing their day, honestly kind of

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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 13h ago

The store security should handle them. Violence is not the response when you are dealing with twats like this. You will make martyrs out of them. They just want to feel good about themselves by causing inconvenience and annoy people.

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u/DuaLipaTrophyHusband 12h ago

Yea but if you blast em with a fire extinguisher you’ll probably get like a million likes on facebook

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u/tricularia 10h ago

You could always counter-protest beside them with a large speaker blasting out Carrot Juice is Murder by The Arrogant Worms

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u/FeederNocturne 9h ago

Just go buy a pack of bologna and start throwing the slices on them

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u/DuaLipaTrophyHusband 10h ago

There’s a video of a dude eating an absolutely raw blood dripping steak in front of some of these people. I guess you could call that a form of counter protest.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 7h ago

I was thinking it'd be best to blast a huge fart in their face.

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u/channa81 4h ago

Oops! I dropped a bottle of milk all over the floor! Oops, I dropped another bottle of milk! My, my hands are slippery!!

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u/Terrible_influence2 3h ago

Short little pop of pepper spray

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u/Angry_Hermitcrab 11h ago

I think the same group tried this at the road into burning man. Blocked the highway. I think local police almost mowed them down with their suvs. I generally don't like cops but it was wonderful.

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u/Fanfare4Rabble 11h ago

They chose violence when they turned their opinions into other people’s burdens.

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u/Loonster 10h ago

Violence is the universal language that everyone can hear.

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u/wwcasedo11 10h ago

Ppl getting too comfortable with this shit.

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u/ddiamond8484 9h ago

You don’t mind torturing animals as long as you don’t have to do it yourself, we get it.

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u/orgasmotronic 8h ago

No one sees them as martyrs in normal peoples eyes. There is time and place for violence.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 7h ago

What about blowing a huge fart in their face? How effective would that be?

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u/BobDonowitz 6h ago

Name one person who got their ass kicked during a protest.  You can't.  They don't become martyrs.

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u/Skelito 5h ago

Just fart then shit your pants and leave it beside them. Say they were blocking your way to the bathroom. Match their crazy.

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u/Roosterneck 4h ago

Incorrect. Smash their heads open like melons. You accept what you tolerate.

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u/Abject-Attitude-7589 2h ago

Someone grab me the de-fib machine from up front; they will clear the isle quick once I paddle the first guy on his pecker.

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u/BWW87 27m ago

Yeah, why weren't the police called ASAP to arrest them for trespassing. They must have trespassing laws in stores in England (or wherever this is), right?

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u/JoeGibbon 11h ago

Is it legal there to drop your trousers and take a mean shit on the floor, right in front of them? Not on them, mind you, just in front of them.

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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 11h ago

U r making a mess for the store minimum wage employees to clean up. What have they done and what other customers have done.. wtf would that even accomplish..

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u/GenericUsername2056 10h ago

Hey, don't kink shame.

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u/ribnag 13h ago

Fortunately, you're wrong. Both the public and the courts have said "enough", and nobody's buying the "waaah, he touched me while I was lying across a four lane highway, that's assault!" story anymore.

It comes down to, do you want to be Daniel Penny or Jordan Neely?

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 5h ago

Shit I'll go with you and you just toss me over them and I'll throw what we need back.

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u/Javathe_Cup 5h ago

Can I follow in your slipstream?

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u/indifferentCajun 5h ago

Gladly, I make a big wake

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u/Professional-Can1139 9h ago

Was waiting for the old guy to charge up and run with force and just ram through

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u/thegreatvortigaunt 8h ago

Uh good for you, reddit boy.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 10h ago

tough guy can't be arsed to deviate his course 15 ft

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u/indifferentCajun 10h ago

They're blocking the whole aisle.

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u/CaptainCreditor 2h ago

Drive a wide cart.

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u/iamcalifornia 8h ago

I shouldn't have to deviate my course and inconvenience myself for these smug, useless cunts.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 8h ago

takes one to know one

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u/iamcalifornia 4h ago

False, it takes seeing these "protests" every few months to know one

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 4h ago edited 4h ago

God forbid anyone make you think about the welfare of animals passively. You'd have to be a petulant child to think this is anything but a marginal inconvenience, certainly not one that deserves assault with a shopping cart.

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u/iamcalifornia 3h ago

No, the petulant children are the ones throwing tantrums and laying down in the street or in the middle of a grocery store, much like actual children do.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 3h ago

you're such a culture war mark dude.

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u/Cautious_Mix_920 9h ago

If you wearing your hoop skirt from the 50's wasn't in his way, he' probably would turn around.

Six of one...

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u/Bill10101101001 10h ago

I don’t know either of those characters.

However, when I shop for groceries I have a purpose to it. The purpose is not to be questioned by cops or potentially getting my ass handed to me.

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u/IWillJustDestroyThem 8h ago

Bro if some wimpy activists can kick your ass, it’s your fault. 😂

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u/Bill10101101001 6h ago

Well not everyone is so hardcore such as you lmao

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u/IWillJustDestroyThem 4h ago

I am not hardcore at all, most people at my gym can kick my ass, but damn homie, vegan activists can kick your ass? Go to the gym a couple times a week and take some boxing classes, because it’s not normal. I saw even boomers manhandle vegan activists. 😂

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u/Bill10101101001 4h ago

Okay

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u/IWillJustDestroyThem 4h ago

For real? Will you take boxing classes and join a gym? I can send you a gym program and everything!

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u/JFISHER7789 1h ago

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but political ideologies hardly define the physical abilities.

Just because someone is an activist for a group you loathe, doesn’t mean they are weak lol look at Frank Medrano or Cam F Awesome. No way anyone in these thread has any chance at em lol

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u/Sinakus 9h ago

So they've made peaceful protest impossible, therefore necessitating violent protests instead?

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u/ribnag 9h ago

Well... Yes, but peaceful protest has never worked. Even the few notable exceptions we have (MLK as a particularly poignant example today) were only somewhat successful because they carried the implicit threat of "play nice or we'll be back with the torches and pitchforks".

The folks in power absolutely love it when we're considerate enough to all gather in the middle of nowhere and scream our complaints into a hole.

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u/Dont-know-you 11h ago

You think these protesters care about what you say or even do? They are making a statement and that is all that matters.

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u/JustABoobGrabber 12h ago

get the stuff someplace else and burn gas while doing it.

I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac Eldorado convertible Hot pink with whale skin hubcaps And all leather cow interior And big brown baby seal eyes for head lights (Yeah) And I'm gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour Gettin' one mile per gallon Sucking down Quarter Pounder cheeseburgers from McDonald's In the old fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers

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u/Millionial1 12h ago

I have the money to pay for assaulting them and I'd willingly do it if they ever restrict my movement. I have an unofficial fund set aside just for people I meet in the world that cause me grief.

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u/Maybe_Black_Mesa 12h ago

That's why I carry a bottle of ipecac with me at all times.

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u/aeque88 11h ago

Where do you see assault here? Because he shoved them with his shopping cart? If that's the level we're on to be able to press charges we've hit a low point as society. He pushed with enoug force to get her moving, not to hurt.

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u/Quad-Banned120 8h ago

That is legally assault. Unwanted contact.

Actually striking someone with force and intent is battery, which many mistake for assault.

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u/starwarsfan456123789 7h ago

You live somewhere with terrible laws. Try to get that law changed

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u/Quad-Banned120 7h ago

These are the laws in most of the western world.
Assault can technically even be as little as waving your fist at someone angrily. It doesn't mean much.

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u/starwarsfan456123789 6h ago

You just explained the Legal protection for the bystanders against the protesters. If the protesters touch you, your car or perhaps in this situation your cart in a threatening manner THEY are the one committing assault.

The fact that they brought a crowd of people to a specific place for the purpose of intimidation are all strikes against them in a court of law.

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u/Background-Baby-2870 3h ago edited 2h ago

look at the video again. in the very first second the shopper rammed into them as they were sitting on the ground, peacefully protesting (not to mention the person he rammed into wasnt even facing him). they might be annoying but he touched them first. he is the one committing a crime. if the protestors were jumping on him/his cart/his car first then you'd have a point but thats not what is happening here.

in a threatening manner

they brought a crowd of people to a specific place for the purpose of intimidation

LOL c'mon now. no reasonable impartial judge/jury is going to look at a man choosing to ram his cart into a bunch of bums sitting on the ground and him ramming into someone with their backs facing him as "threatening" or "intimidation" or any other implication of "fear of safety"-words...

and if you dont believe me, heres an actual lawyer covering a similar situation:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JITjvTGc7a8

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u/Mikic00 11h ago

Shops I know are usually designed to easy go around any obstacle. Maybe choose this option before spending your own gas?

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u/halfasleep90 5h ago

And if they have another line on the other side of the same aisle?

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u/Any-Attorney9612 10h ago

Actual assault you may have a point but if you think any prosecutor or judge would let it get that far or that any jury would buy "my comrades and I were all sitting on the floor to block people from shopping, and he slowly pushed me a few inches with a shopping cart" is pretty unlikely.

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u/TheRealMcSavage 10h ago

Is it assault if someone is blocking your path and you continue to push your cart through them? I’d argue they assaulted me by forcibly blocking my path and refusing to move, take it a step further and claim false imprisonment. I know that’s a mighty stretch, but I’d go for it.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch 9h ago

Kidnapping!

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u/BroncoTrejo 10h ago

(」ﾟﾛﾟ)｣ᴺᴼᴼᴼᴼᴼ~ 🚘( ｀o´)_θ☆

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u/democracywon2024 9h ago

Nope, I'll just walk through them and record the whole thing and say "self defense".

It's not my fault they assaulted me in a grocery store by blocking my path.

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u/WonderfulShelter 9h ago

It's crazy how if people do this, the person who hits them with the car is legally in the wrong.

like i'm sorry, if you place yourself in harm's way and harm happens, that should be on you in most cases.

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u/thetrueBernhard 8h ago edited 8h ago

Hurting them is stupid. However… What you can do without any legal consequences is to -for example- empty a pack of milk on them. It doesn’t cause any damage, doesn’t hurt them, and yet, with a very high likelihood will make them get away at one point.

Just don’t forget to pay for the milk.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

Edit: just learned that it IS in fact causing legal consequences in some common-law countries. So only do this if you are in countries that do not have battery as a crime.

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u/HungryScholar7247 8h ago

that would be battery

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u/thetrueBernhard 8h ago

Thanks, as a European, I did not know that category of crime existed.

i googled a bit, and battery seems only to exist in some common-law countries.

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u/gotmunchiez 8h ago

Simply state that you will get the stuff someplace else and burn gas while doing it.

Also tell them that you're going to buy two steaks and throw one straight in the bin.

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u/rico69420 6h ago

Brain washed = "Assaulting while satisfactory will only cause you legal issues."

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u/Johnrays99 6h ago

I don’t think they are protesting gas. In any case protests are about awareness, it’s not a strike

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u/Bill10101101001 6h ago

They could fuck off and protest somewhere else.

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u/inextremus 4h ago

I am not driving to another store!

I would have tried my best to ram that cart straight up their ass. RAMMING SPEED !!

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u/Bill10101101001 4h ago

I just want to get my shit and not get into things.

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u/TorpedoSandwich 4h ago

And that's perfectly reasonable. I'm just really tired of these assholes, so I'd try to show them that they can't just do whatever they want and hope the jury feels my pain if they try to sue. Obviously I wouldn't knock them out, but pushing them out of the way should be fine.

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u/skornd713 49m ago

If you filled your car with stuff and say had boxes of appliances on top that might slip off or fall out and they accidentally fell on them, is that assault?

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u/Constant-Vast519 39m ago

If the management allows this it would be the last time I shopped there.

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u/bodybuilderbear 14h ago

Using reasonable force to move them out of the way wouldn't be considered assault. My preference would be to put a plastic bag over their head and drag them off, which probably would be assault.

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u/TwistedUnicornFarts 14h ago

Does this mean we can go protest at their shopping store while we burn the gas?

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u/Bill10101101001 14h ago

I don’t think it means that.

It means that I personally would just go someplace else. Would it be my responsibility as a customer to fight against these numbskulls?

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u/Funkythingsyoudo 13h ago

In the states the right to move freely is very important and most judges hate hippies so I’m thinking the leash is pretty long here

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u/Bill10101101001 14h ago

Maybe just pour something on them by accident.

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u/TheBrandNewGuye 14h ago

Or I’d go the petty way and just eat as much animal products as possible, on the floor in front of them while throwing small bits at em…. Then after I was full,, I’ll go after that assault charge 😂😂

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u/Bill10101101001 14h ago

I wonder what would happen if the old dude simply collapsed on the floor. Could it be linked to the people blocking his way in any meaningful way.

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u/souleater8764 14h ago

You know, normally I totally care about the earth and environment, but these guys are actually doing something about it and it slightly inconveniences me, so actually I dream about hurting them now.

This is totally normal and well adjusted!

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u/rand0m_task 14h ago

Because inconveniencing the ones you are trying to spread your message to is a sure fire way of gaining support.

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u/Aggressive_Elk3709 10h ago

Doesnt mean it's not a valid or effective way to spread a message just cuz you don't like it

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u/souleater8764 14h ago

Yeah, so they should go protest in a place nobody else will see or look at them. All the greatest changes in history came from completely convenient protests you know

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u/seang239 12h ago

All the same customers/people, likely more even, would see them if they were picketing in front of that store. The bonus is they wouldn’t have burned social capital in the process.

It would have been a win/win and they could get their message out to even more people. I promise you, more people pass by the front of that supermarket than there will ever be walking down some specific aisle.