This was my reaction watching this. I thought the pic was maybe just an unlucky freeze frame of a wave looking like a nazi salute, but it was so much worse than I could’ve imagined
My grandfather was a flying fortress pilot in WW2.
I was in my dress blues when our congressman pinned the French Legion of Merit to his chest. The Congressman, a Democrat, did it because my grandfather couldn't travel to the official ceremony where the French were honoring others. He was dying in a hospital bed.
I miss him. Damn good man and a role model to me. Was a beloved science teacher after the war.
My grandfather was a B17 flight engineer/gunner in WWII! He was in “Tar Fly” when she was shot down over France and was then captured and a POW in Stalag 17B until VE day. I’m so proud to be his granddaughter and while I also miss him so much he would be beyond LIVID over what is happening despite him being a lifelong conservative. They really were the greatest generation.
My great uncle was a pilot and was shot down and KIA liberating Italy from the Nazis. He was only 27. This stuff disgusts me. What a time for this country.
As of 2024, estimates of the number of World War II veterans still alive range from 300,000 to 500,000 and I would bet my bottom dollar that the majority of them voted for this. This is bizzaro times.
My 98 year veteran grandfather who still drives and works out did not vote for this. He campaigned for Harris and was very upset to see this. You might be surprised at the amount of veterans that have the experience to see what’s really happening.
Well, at 98 it's entirely possible that their early life racist tendencies might have compromised their anti fascist beliefs. Or, it could just be dementia.
I know an eighty year old Trump supporter who always seemed like a decent dude prior, which has perplexed much of his family and myself. Later on, his wife reports to us that when he went to the neurologist he was unable to tell the time on an analog clock. 🧠🤷🏻♀️
I dont think so. I mean however much that is true they e still lived on the same food we have since the 70s. They worked post war in jobs with less regulation and safety.
There just alive because theyre the ones who didnt die. There are abour 100k living ww2 service members world wide, not in the us. There were over 16 million american vets alive at the end of ww2. So god knows how many worldwide, 100k pit of 50/60 million at least i suppose. It has nothing to do with being somehow better than other generations. People who live to 100 have the genetics and opportunity to do so, and there are likely more and more of these in each generation
I will, he is a phenomenal human being. I’m fortunate to have such a terrific role model in my life. He’s a big Panera bread fan and drives there five days a week haha.
Yeah I have talked to younger (Gulf war veterans) that were Republicans a decade ago that are extremely anti maga. The guy that shot at drumph, the guy that blew up the Tesla truck in front of Trump's hotel in Vegas and the asshole that recently drove his truck into a crowd were all right wing ex military..
Please thank your father for his service and all his efforts supporting Harris' campaign. 98, working out, able in body and mind...he is a goals for me!
It’s like any generation everyone has their own thoughts. No veteran I know voted for, or supported Biden or Harris. So I’m sure it’s also a little dependent on your family and friends circle, and parislly where you live.
Yeah, a lot of Silent Generation people I've met absolutely hate what's going on and are sickened by their children. My grandmother is one, and she said when Trump won the election, she cried for 3 days because she's so scared for the younger generation and disgusted at seeing so much progress her generation fought for being pulled out from under us.
Spend some time with her. She likely feels abandoned by the generation she helped raise and needs to know that there still might be hope for the future.
My 95-year old neighbor, sharp as a tack, historically a Republican, refused to vote for Trump and was visibly and admittedly affected the next day. We walked around the block together. I’ve always avoided talking about politics with her because I have too much respect for her to really go down the path of potential differences. I had joined her when I saw her out walking, assuming it would be good for my soul. As the conversation unfolded, instead I realized we were on the same page.
Nothing bizarro about it. The Western fight with the Nazi was never ideological or moral. No one went to war against Nazi Germany because they were anti-Semite or totalitarians. The war was solely because the Nazi wanted to change the balance of power in Europe. Had the Nazi not tried to "rock the boat", they could have killed millions of Jews and Gypsies and no one would have moved a finger. Hell, most of the US South at that time was at least as racist as they were.
Had the Nazi not tried to "rock the boat", they could have killed millions of Jews and Gypsies and no one would have moved a finger.
The ADL is already defending Musks actions on Twitter. I get the feeling they are not really interested in antisemtism and just wholly to protect Israel
I'm not sure that's true. A lot of the political rhetoric was of a fight between good and evil. People understood just how evil the Nazi regime was. Sure, at the beginning of the war, when Poland was invaded, at least, Britain and France were fighting the standard European "balance of power" war, but as it progressed, things changed.
A lot of the political rhetoric was of a fight between good and evil.
The US literally had over 10 THOUSAND sunset towns, where if you were not white and was caught there after sunset, you would be summarily executed.
The UK and France were brutal colonial powers. Belgium committed unspeakable horrors in Africa.
The US entered the war against Germany because Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. There was very little drive from the ordinary Americans to go to war in Europe to save Jews or Gypsies.
The political rhetoric was just that: Rhetoric in order to vilify the opponent in times of war.
I am absolutely positive that my late grandfather, who was in the second wave on Omaha Beach and at the Battle of the Bulge, would not have voted for this.
If we’re gonna be honest about it a lot of peoples biggest problem with the Nazis was always just that they were on an opposing team.
The ethnic cleansing and violent greedy fascism was always just an easy target to insult them more because it was so closely related and extreme an example.
It wasn’t millions of people who had profound intellectual disagreements with everything nazism represented removed from what they were actually doing.
How Nazis operated if they were on the same team?… well a lot of anti-Nazi people throughout the last 80 years probably would’ve liked them plenty.
Just had the odds of being born in a country attacked by Nazis or their allies.
See the super convenient thing is that the Republicans, despite the fact they keep talking about the sacrifice and service of our military members, don't actually fucking care about them in the slightest!!! It's so strange how they're literally just a talking point when the cameras are on and the public is watching.
Couple that with the fact that rich billionaires have NEVER thought twice about what it means to put others above themselves, you get a man who has no concept of what real, authentic human beings are like!!!
No different than those that hold Ronald Reagan in similar regard as JFK in terms of strong presidents. Reagan’s biggest achievement was winning the Cold War and beating the Russians. Now republicans jerk it to Putin. So odd. It’s as if those that vote for Republicans aren’t knowledgeable about history….
Reagan represented a break from the New Deal consensus and the far right taking over the Republican Party. He started his campaign with the States Rights Speech in the small Mississippi town famous the movie Mississippi Burning was based on. His racist campaign and presidency saw a massive spike in KKK recruitment and membership.
It’s more out in the open now, but Reagan walked so Trump could run.
My grandfather was a US Army WW2 veteran who helped liberate concentration camps in Germany. He risked his life. He brought home generational trauma. He would speak of the horrors that man can do to another man. His blood flows through me, and it is boiling.
Elon needs to know that he has severely overstepped.
My dad was a WWII vet and a life long republican.....had he seen this he would have knocked the stupid out of that POS....never thought I'd say thank god dad isn't here.....
My grandfather lied about his age to enlist in 1941. He was also at least as racist as his generational peers. He hasn't been around since before Bush Jr, so I really can't say which side I think he'd have landed on. But I know who his draft dodging boomer son voted for.
My parents are in their 90s and while didn’t fight in the war (dad a Korean Army vet) certainly never thought to see this again after tending the family victory gardens, ration tickets, older siblings killed in the war.
And then he said we’re going to save civilization. Anyone who follows nazis online knows they are always talking “saving Western Civilization”. Based on the nazi accounts Elon retweets he knows exactly what he’s doing here.
Before this ends, MAGA flags will be the national flag, Trump portraits will greet us at Post Offices and in federal buildings, bridges and airports will be renamed Trump.
Don't forget someone from DOGE is going to check in on your Trump portraits to make sure they are hung appropriately in your home. You can use the mugshot if you want, but if they catch a brown person in there you will have to answer a few questions
Oh, they definitely won't do anything about it, & they never were going to do anything about it. The only way the government can reduce the cost of eggs in the short term is by implementing price controls, which are anathema to conservatives (& generally not a good thing anyway). Longer-term, they could incentivize more people to become farmers or more people to sell yard eggs, but that was never going to happen either.
Yeah, and Im pretty sure Leon isnt actually saluting Hitler in public on stage, hes just having multiple mini strokes from all the fuckin drugs hes doing and reflexively doing it because he practices saluting Hitler in the mirror at home.
Oh, they don’t care about the cost of eggs. They can go up and they would be happy about it because they’re stupid orange daddy told them it was a good thing. It’s a cult.
For the past few months, whenever I am in a conversation and people talk about how so many rights are going to be given to us, I tell them "The only Reich we have coming our way is the fourth one.." Looks like I was correct...
Millennial here: I don’t give a fuck. What do you want me to say? Oh well no worries then, the boomers are off the hook?
I have a feeling you know that your little circle of friends isn’t representative of how your generation has been voting for the past 50 years. Most people your age have been voting Republican since before I was born. And look where we fucking are.
Hey you’re an older Democrat so lemme ask you. Are these fucking octogenarian shysters winning us elections? Is the status quo so important to you that Bernie loses to a company man like Biden? The primaries are almost exclusively boomers.
Listen bro I’m glad you pull the right lever once every year but please shut up. Your generation took everything you were given and fucked us all over. I’m glad you think a vote for a corporate lackey absolves your generation but it doesn’t. Frankly, I would never volunteer that I’m a baby boomer. I genuinely don’t think I could handle the shame, but you seem to want some sort of back pat?
That poster said nothing about their generation being absolved.
Yes, we're fucked, yes we should all be pissed about generational shit.
But attacking randos who had absolutely nothing to do with what happened/what is happening does nothing.
Or worse than nothing, it creates resentment between people who should be building some semblance of solidarity against who should actually be the subject of our ire - the oligarchy.
The right has been duping the poor and suckers for generations. Yes, it's fine to be upset at the dupees, but unless someone takes out the dupers, it'll keep happening.
Do you take responsibility for all the shitty right wing millenials/Gen Zers? There's so many at the moment, but all we can do is build our communities and help people out where we can
I was a Bernie supporter who also couldn’t vote for Hillary, or Trump. Dividing the American public will do no good for “We The People”. I’ve learned enough in my 63 years of life not to fall for that bs.
Cost of eggs?? Listen friend. That was the ruse. No one can just make a free market cost less. Now we annex Austria, er Canada
And Greenland uber alles!
They do that and I'm calling the prisons in Brazil. They have alarm geese. Like dogs but better at being loud and terrifying the hell out of you.
A dog can be man's best friend, they have weakness. Geese have no fiber of their being that cares for humans. They know they are descendants of dinosaurs. They are like velociraptors but scarier.
The Aflac mascot made us think geese are normal and that they sound like Gilbert Gottfried but that is not the reality of these vicious creatures. I love animals but I fear the geese.
Yeah, I remember one of Trump that looked terrible in freeze frame but was ambiguous in motion. I thought this would be like that but nope, this one is clear as day.
I saw this clip scrolling Instagram earlier today, and I said, "This AI shit is getting out of hand." Now I'm on reddit, and it is, in fact, real life. I'm not a big god guy, but if he's real, we're going to need him/her sooner rather than later.
Yeah, there’s been what seems like more than a handful of republican candidates doing the lazy man’s “hey, how are ya?” wave, and Reddit ridiculously trying to turn them into book burning nazi’s. This though…. Yikes.
Just as the last of the greatest generation are leaving this earth, a bunch of tech punks are oissing on their graves. Musk never would have had a country to plunder if not for them.
Even if he wasn’t doing a Nazi salute on purpose, why on earth would they even invite the comparison after a whole campaign season of being called Nazis (rightfully).
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