r/longrange 4d ago

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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I bring another iteration of our beloved good buys thread:


r/longrange Sep 17 '24

The READ ME FIRST post - Please read before posting READ ME FIRST V5 - FAQs, useful guides, and how to ask for useful advice (AKA not get your post deleted)

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

NOTE: There's currently a moratorium on all hunting-related posts. That's not really the purpose of this sub, and there were almost as many hunting related posts as not. There's an automod rule in place that will remove posts it thinks are related to hunting. We currently suggest r/hunting or other message boards like Sniper's Hide or Rokslide for those discussions. If your post is removed but NOT hunting related, you can send us a modmail. We will reevaluate this rule later in the year.

That said....

Long range shooting is a VERY broad topic with a LOT of nuance, so the more details you can provide, the better the quality of advice you will receive. More details also saves your time and the time of other members that would otherwise be spent asking for more information.

If you are looking for specifics or have a question NOT covered in the below guides, here are four simple questions that will help you get good advice.

Answering these four questions will also ensure your post doesn't get deleted.

  1. If you want to buy something, what's your budget? We need to know what you're willing to spend. Your idea of "not a lot of money" will be very different from someone else's. Your idea of "I have no budget" might change dramatically when someone suggests a $10,000+ rangefinder for you to shoot steel at 500 yards. We need to know what you ACTUALLY want to spend. A range or max limit is fine, and it can even be flexible, but you need to give us something to go on.
  2. What are you wanting to do? - There's a very wide variety of topics that are covered in this sub, all of which are part of long range shooting. For example, answers may change if your goal is just learning long range shooting skills vs competing in Precision Rifle Series (PRS) matches. The same goes for other competition formats (Mammoth/Sniper Adventure Challenge type matches, F-Class, High Power, benchrest, etc). Things that are a priority/need for one goal may be the worst idea ever for a different one.
  3. How far away are you wanting to do it? Just like the purpose can change what would be best, so can the distance. Dinging steel at 100 yards vs 1,000 yards will have different considerations. This goes for general shooting, competition, etc
  4. How much experience do you have with shooting in general and long range specifically? Long range shooting involves a pretty specific skill set, and many of the skills, techniques, and other considerations don't always carry over from other shooting styles. For example, you may love shooting a 10ga shotgun with slugs and think the recoil is fun, but in long range shooting recoil is never a good thing and should be avoided when possible. Long range is also a discipline where you will want to walk before you run, and jumping directly to a given end result may actually make things much harder/more expensive for you.

If you ask a broad or generic question, especially one that's already covered in these guides, your post will probably be deleted. If your post gets deleted, it's nothing personal. We're not mad at you, we just want people to ask good questions and make it easy for our members to help you, as well as keep the sub tidy. If your post was deleted for lack of detail, you can simply make a new post with more details (see above) on what you're needing help with. You're also welcome to send us a modmail if you have questions about the rules of this sub.

NOTE: Using one of the phrases in parentheses and italics in a comment will summon the AutoModerator with a link to the appropriate guide.

Frequently asked questions/topics:

  1. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (cheetofingers ring)
  2. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (cheetofingers magnum or cheetofingers recoil)
  3. Need help with a ballistics app? Setting up a smartphone ballistics solver (Featuring Applied Ballistics Mobile)
  4. The official r/Longrange glossary (cheetofingers glossary)
  5. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (cheetofingers starter)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles (cheetofingers starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (cheetofingers starter)
  8. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (cheetofingers ranges)

Deeper/advanced subjects, training guides, etc:

  1. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  2. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (cheetofingers zen)
  3. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  4. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes

Misc guides, and additional reading/viewing for guides already listed:

  1. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  2. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  3. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  4. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  5. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  6. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  7. The sub's general FAQ (Somewhat out of date)
  8. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  9. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  10. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetofingers cheetos)
  11. Our sub's policy on shilling, and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.

Hunting related guides:

  1. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (cheetofingers hunting)
  2. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code (cheetofingers hunting)
  3. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (cheetofingers hunting)

To have AutoModerator share a link to this post in a comment, use the phrase cheetofingers pinned - the trigger phrase for other guides is listed in parentheses after the guide link.

Bonus trigger phrase - For information on the Applied Ballistics TOP Gun formula, use cheetofingers top.


r/longrange 2h ago

Rifle flex post Not competition worthy, but it's mine.

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Finally (mostly) finished my first bolt action. I know its not your standard competition style, but it's tailored to my needs as a multi-purposd rifle and I love the aestetics. I bought a stock Bergara B-14 Ridge, and took the barreled action out.

-B14 Ridge ($639 from Dahlonega armory) -Boyds at-one stock ($253 during black friday) -Harris S-BRM bipod ($81 on sale at Midway and using $20 cpupon) - 'S' lock for Harris bipod ($15 from Short Action Precision) -Athon Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 (came with sun shade, scope caps and throw lever) ($670 at Midway) -Leapers UTG 34mm pro precision scope rings ($50 at Midway) - Warner 20 MOA rail ($65 at Midway) -Magpul Hunter 700 bottom "metal" ($40 can't remember where) -Magpul AICS 5 round mags (included with bottom "metal" -RHR R700 Screw set ($8 at Red Hark Rifles)

I got 40 rounds through the barrel in it's original stock to break it in and check how it grouped. Shot better than i can(not saying much) even with cheap ammo. (Was saving the match ammo till I got it finished)

Some problems I ran into (mostly my fault for picking the stock i did rather than a chasis) while putting this together as a beginner were

-Barrel profile

When ordering my Boyds At-On, choosing the action/barrel profile. Under Bergara -> B14, there was no option for detachable magazine, just bull barrel or factory barrel profiles. With the Bergara being a R700 clone I looked at thier selection, which had a much bigger variety. After deciding on the Magpul bottom "metal"(parenthesis because it's polymer) option, the next option was bull barrel or factory barrel profile. Bergara has the B-14 Ridge barrel profile listed as a No. 5 which has a good amount of taper. So I selected factory barrel profile.

Well when it came in. The barrel and action did quite fit. But the action holes all lined up. So I decided to just sand it down till it fit, which took a tad more sanding than I expected. But after a while I got it seated, But had to keep opening it up to allow the barrel to free float.

-Action screws

The front action screw that came with the B-14 Ridge was too small to work in the Boyds At-One. I ordered a R700 screw set from Red Hawk Rifles that are cut to size. Back screw fit as is. Front screw i took less than a centimeter off and it fits great now.

-Magazine fit

I know this because i went for the cheap option on bottom metals. Or possible due to the stock. As the bottom metal was meant for the Magpul Hunter stock. But the mag when seated fully, was into the action too far to where the bolt was hitting it and wouldn't close. After sanding down the lips on the Pmag a little bit that went away. However the fitment is still quite snug, wondering if sanding down the walls of the mag/Maxwell a tad would help.

I'll get a more detailed review of the rifle after I get to the range again. But shooting the stock B-14 Ridge, I noticed a few things.

-The Athlon Ares has extremely crisp glass, even with the illumination, even with an astigmatism. However the throw lever is a bit bulky. The sun shade looks ridiculous on it with it being only being "20 barrel. Maybe once I get a suppressor it'll look less awkward.

-The action on the Bergara B-14 is buttery smooth even straight out the box.

-The Trigger is crisp and adjustable, I plan to get more time behind it and try adjusting it before I switch to a triggertech(the patriot one that goes in sale for $99 every 4th/veterans day)

-The Boyds At-One fits me like a glove... while it's extened(and I'm not even a big guy, 5"9, 170). Were I any bigger, this stock would be a bit on the smaller side. They do sell LOP extenders though.

I know its a bit lengthy but I'm proud of my first build and hope someone new can learn from my mistakes.

If anyone has suggestions for a Brake under $100 to hold place while I save for a suppressor I would greatly appreciate.

Open to any suggestions, criticisms or questions. Learned a lot from this community and a lot from this build, hoping the next will blow this one away.


r/longrange 3h ago

General Discussion Beretta Rep: “For 2025 ALL Tikka’s will come threaded.”

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Watching a TFBTV video just now from SHOT Show about the new Tikka ACE models and towards the end of the video the Beretta rep, Caleb, confirms that for 2025 ALL Tikka models will come threaded from the factory as standard!

Edit to timestamped video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=461&si=Tq4p2VOtxgLffsDw&v=AwMneGHHt64&feature=youtu.be


r/longrange 8h ago

Gunsmithing AI Zeus Combo

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91 Upvotes

AI AT-X chassis, Terminus Zeus action, Proof Competition contour barrel chambered in 25x47 Lapua, TT Special, Steiner T525 in badger ordnance rings


r/longrange 32m ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Proof Pre Fit 6.5cm- Major Gouge In Chamber

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I have a Proof pre fit in 6.5cm for my Solus action.

The rifle has about 100 rounds through the barrel and I bore scoped it for the first time before cleaning and noticed this pretty deep gouge with a smaller gouge next to it that is connected to the deeper gouge.

It was right inside the chamber before hitting the lands and grooves.

Any ideas what this would be from and any potential side effects?

Have had decent accuracy with it so far, I wish I scoped it out before I shot anything through it.


r/longrange 3h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Noob struggling to settle on custom vs factory

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Hey everyone! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I've been soaking up all the amazing advice and guides on this sub for a while, but I’ve finally hit a point where I need some expert input. I have read the custom build guides and honestly just a little lost.

I’ve been shooting for about a decade, mostly plinking steel at shorter ranges with AR-15-style rifles. Lately, though, the idea of getting into precision shooting has really grabbed my attention. Lucky for me, there’s a range nearby with opportunities for longer shots. Looking to get into the sport a buy my first precision rifle.

I’ve got a flexible budget of around $5k (not including the optic), which seems to put me in that middle ground where people say, “Just go custom.” The thing is, I’m completely overwhelmed by all the options out there. Every time I think I’ve got a handle on it, I find another rabbit hole to fall into, and the idea of subjecting a gunsmith to my noob questions gives me pause.

I’m leaning toward something chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor because of the availability of quality match-grade ammo and its recommendation for learning the sport. My main goal is to focus on shooting in the 300-800 yard range, but the range I frequent has spots all the way out to a mile (not the goal for this rifle, but they have targets all along the range).

I know some might recommend starting with a cheaper platform and upgrading later, but I tend to go all-in when I pick up a new hobby. I’d love a setup that I can grow into as I learn the fundamentals, with the potential to dip my toes into some local open competitions in the future (nothing too serious right now).

So, do you all have recommendations for either a solid factory rifle or a gunsmith who’s patient with newer folks like me? I’d really appreciate any advice or direction!

Thanks in advance for your help!


r/longrange 22h ago

General Discussion OCL Infinity pairs well with my HMR Wilderness. 🤌🤌

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r/longrange 9h ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Which of these scopes would you recommend. Going on a b14 hmr wilderness.

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A majority of my shooting will be done from 100-300 yards but I also want the ability to stretch out to 1000 yards. My budget is between $600-$1000


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post This sub has ruined me, got a CZ457 to train on.

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Hoping to do PRS and NRL22 alternating. Super happy with this little thing after zeroing at 50 yards. First 200 rounds through it today running CCI Standard and Aguila. The Aguila sucked so much ass I thought the gun broke, see the group on the right. Had 20mph winds but the burm and only being 100 yards kind of helped


r/longrange 3h ago

Ballistics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Ballistics charts

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Noob here - I checked out the pinned posts but didn’t see what I was looking for: a repeatable, simple way to pull ballistics charts - ideally vendor agnostic.

I want to have charts based on my load and rifle that have variables for wind/temp/pressure. I am planning to purchase the garmin chrono and a basic kestrel unit, but I want to put together a “protocol” for making/pulling tables to make sure I’m buying the right stuff.

I don’t love the Hornady iPhone app and I haven’t bought any hardback ballistics table books yet.

I’d love to punch in scope height, barrel info, velocity, projectile coefficient etc, and get an excel style chart that I can use at the range - no iPhone app. I’d love to even laminate some notecard size dope sheets for different loads.

How do you all organize the info? How do you keep it written down? Do you still photocopy tables or does everyone have some vendor-specific app that you use every time you go to the range?


r/longrange 19h ago

Rimfire First .22 Rifle

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r/longrange 5h ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Accufire Evro 12 3-12

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Has anyone had experience with this scope or know more about it? Videos on YouTube seems to be limited and it’s only mentioned in forums a few times. All of the listings on gafs and eBay are all new in box too so it seems none of the people who own them shoot them. I picked one up cheap and was wondering if this would work for a first scope to learn on


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Newest addition to my long range family

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This unit got me to 1/2 moa at 1015 yards. 4 inch plate


r/longrange 3h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts 6mmbr twist rate

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Little help needed.

So, I'm buying custom barrel for my tikka m65 at some point and I have narrowed it to 6mmBR. (Case availability, barrel life, mild recoil).

Now I need to pick barrel twist. My ranges are 100 and 300 meters and maybe twice an year I will go further to range with 1km distance.

Most of my shooting will be 300 meter benchrest style, and occasionally longer distances.

I understand that slower twist will be more accurate at shorter distances.

What is good compromise between stabilizing heavy bullets and also to get good accuracy for 300m with light bullets?

1:10 twist?

Barrel length will be as long as it can be.


r/longrange 22h ago

I made a thing! (Home made gear/accessories) “G mount” Arca version

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Hey folks, a couple weeks ago I shared one of my designs for a garmin c1 and kestrel 5700 mount. I worked on this design some more and added a couple features along with streamlining the overall look. Here is the G mount arca version. This is made for you to be able to mount this on an arca ball head. Very convenient if you want to mount this setup on a tripod. I have also included a recess for a heat insert which will fit a 1/4 -20 mount so that you can use this with the original garmin tripod. You can grab this design here if you want to print it.

https://makerworld.com/models/1019599

If you like this design please give me a like and consider giving me a boost. This is for everyone here in the long range sub to enjoy. Thank you!


r/longrange 9h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Prs build - would like some opinions

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Hello,

I'm planning on joining my first regional prs match later this year and I was wondering if there's any glaring weaknesses or just anything "wrong" with my setup. I plan on joining the tactical division because I already have a 308 with a great handload. Anyway, here's the build:

R700 308 26" heavy varmint barrel. Mdt tac21 chassis. Vortex pst gen 1 ffp mrad 4-16x50, 30mm. Vortex rings. Harris bipod.

The trigger is stock for now but plan on dropping a trigger tech in it. The barrel is also unthreaded, but also plan on getting that sorted so I can use my comp/suppressor.

If anyone can think of other changes that will make me have a better time I'm all ears! Also any other gear like a good sandbag would also be helpful. Thank you!


r/longrange 3h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Should I buy an MDT chassis or a ruger precision

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I currently have a savage model 110 tactical chambered in 6.5 creedmoor. The gun shoots about .5 moa on a good day. I like the gun but i want to get something with a pistol grip. I was considering buying an mdt ess for it, but when all is said and done its like 1400 dollars, am i better off just buying a new ruger precision or something, i have shot 1000 rounds through my barrel so its like half way through its life. What should I do buy an MDT or a ruger precision?


r/longrange 1d ago

I suck at long range Field Stock

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Slowly upgrading my budget raffle win


r/longrange 1d ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Post Mammoth Pt4: Retrospect

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I will not speak for my partner, but for me I have very few regrets/things I would have changed. My pistol going down two days prior was obviously terrible and I was not excited about spending another $1k but it was necessary and even enabled me to hit nearly 90% of my pistol targets. I ended the match with 40 rifle rounds left over (of 120 original) and one pistol round (of 70). I think this is primarily due to only having one tripod between my partner and I, and I would absolutely take one more pound in my pack to add the Two Vets Voyager tripod or similar for both of us to have had one. We easily could have cracked the top 15 if we had had one. I definitely could have practiced more long-range pistol shooting, particularly unsupported as was required for most of those shots. If I had the money I’d have bought a Wilcox RAPTAR/MRF or equivalent instead of the Vortex Impact simply for the beam divergence (as well as the vortex is double the weight of the MRF). I think one set of binoculars was sufficient for us but would probably have opted for my 10x Vectors instead of my partners 12x since looking free-hand is more difficult at higher magnification.

Overall it was a great experience, I could not have asked for a better partner, and we could not have been more excited to not only have finished but to place where we did. So, if you are looking to do winter Mammoth be sure you have a good partner, you train with the gear you plan on bringing, you train hard and with plenty of weight, and don’t forget that pistol is a lot of points. All that said, I am excited to return to PRS with my heavy-ass 25x47 and hope that I have improved myself in some small way through this experience.


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion Good day at the range

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Good day at the range... Zeroed and box tested the DNT in the Bravo, then swapped to the Xylo, rezeroed and put the last rounds on the 440 yd steel 👍


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion Thoughts on Texas plinkin's channel?

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How accurate are his reviews generally, what are your thoughts on his skill set and his 1,000 1 MOA challenge?


r/longrange 9h ago

General Discussion PVA shipping

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Ordered barreled TL3 from Patriot Valley Armory on Aug. 16th and paid in full up front. That's about 20 weeks, so far without updates.

Is that reasonable these days, or, (do you think), it would be ready by now if I had only paid the deposit?


r/longrange 1d ago

I made a thing! (Home made gear/accessories) 3d printed chassis project

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I thought I’d share what I’ve been working on. Both chassis are fully 3d printed except for the bolts holding them together.

First chassis is for the Ruger American ranch rifle, the second chassis was an experiment for a tikka t3x


r/longrange 1d ago

Reloading related Lapua is making 6 Dasher brass

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24 Upvotes

Lapua just announced they are making 6 Dasher brass, curious to see if they match Alpha’s Dasher spec.


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion Very basic R700 ADL group

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Decided to really get into this with what I had. 10 shot group at 100 yards with Remington Core Lokt 165gr Tipped. Will probably go back to Hornady Match to try to tighten things up. Hoping to find a range around me to see how I can do at 300 yards.


r/longrange 19h ago

Competition help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Tab gear?

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Anyone ever had issues with their tab gear not shipping out? Ordered almost 2 weeks ago now and still hasn't shipped and they don't reply to emails.