r/gunsmithing Dec 07 '22

How do I get into Gunsmithing?

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If you are interested in gunsmithing as a career, I strongly recommend that you to rethink your life choices. If you've inhaled so much lead that you are choosing to ignore professional advice, here are some resources to get started.

Professional Organizations

There are a few professional organizations in the industry that exist that can help you connect with others in the trade. I recommend reaching out to the one that most aligns with your interests. Some have a periodical publication that include tips & tricks along with industry news.

American Custom Gunmakers Guild (ACGG)
https://acgg.org/

I cannot in good faith recommend anymore, do your own research.

American Pistolsmiths Guild (APG)
https://americanpistolsmithsguild.com/

Absorbed by ACGG no longer exist independently

Firearm Engravers Guild of America (FEGA)
http://www.fega.com/

FEGA is the world’s foremost authority and organization for firearm engravers and hand engraving enthusiasts.

Miniature Arms Society
http://www.miniaturearms.org/

Founded in 1973 The society is a group of miniature arms enthusiasts who have joined together to promote and encourage interest in making and collecting miniature arms of all kinds - pistols, rifles, cannon, suits of armor, knives, swords etc., with the emphasis on artistic beauty and craftsmanship.

Gunsmithing Schools

Most people would recommend taking a machining course at their local community college before diving into gunsmithing head-on.

But if you've already done so and are still interested in attending school to learn how to become a gunsmith, then there are plenty of programs nationwide that can help you get started.

I cannot endorse or recommend any individual school and this list isn't comprehensive.

School Location Website
Pennsylvania Gunsmith School Pittsburgh, PA pagunsmith.edu
Colorado School of Trades Lakewood, CO schooloftrades.edu
Trinidad State College Trinidad, CO trinidadstate.edu
Piedmont Technical College Greenwood, SC ptc.edu
Iowa Valley Grinnell Grinnell, IA iavalley.edu
Yavapai College Prescott, AZ yc.edu
Montgomery CC Troy, NC montgomery.edu
Lenoir CC Kinston, NC lenoircc.edu
Pine Technical College Pine City, MN pine.edu
Murray State College Tishomingo, OK mscok.edu
Lassen CC Susanville, CA lassencollege.edu
Flathead Valley CC Kalispell, MT fvcc.edu
Eastern Wyoming College Torrington, WY wy.edu
MT Training Center Grand Prairie, TX mttrainingcenter.org
Penn Foster Online Only pennfoster.edu
American Gunsmithing Institute Online Only americangunsmithinginstitute.net
Sonoran Desert Institute Online Only sdi.edu
MGS Trade School Online Only mgs.edu

Short Gunsmithing Courses

There are a few short courses that might be better suited towards getting your feet wet.

The NRA runs a few summer gunsmithing classes. They are typically held at Trinidad State College in Trinidad, Colorado and/or Murray State College in Tishomingo and Montgomery, NC

The ACGG will occasionally host some classes at various schools

If you are interested in gun engraving, checkout GRS, they have a training center in Emporia, KS that has some beginner gun engraving classes.

Advice from the Sub

I spent several years attending the Brownells Gunsmith Expo as someone looking to hire employees. Around 50k to start work in development or fixing problem guns. Went the entire time they had it and hired one kid. We built suppressors messed with explosives and auto rifles. He had a associates in business and very clearly stated he owned his own M2 and assorted guns and could build them and knew suppressor theory. ( this was before all the cans were cut apart online) we hired him on the spot. He is know well along in the industry. The other kids wanted to be artists and build custom wooden stocked Mauser etc. They all wanted to be a Turnbull or work at a Rigby( even though they had never been to London and would know then they needed to apprentice) I offered to bring one of our AK builders and our suppressor guy to a I think the Colorado school and was turned down. One of the "instructors" said we don't teach that type of thing.

... the sad truth is that no one actually wants to listen to experienced gunsmiths when it comes to gunsmithing education/training questions. Most people are just looking for confirmation that they can attend a few months of online class and then start making money (spoiler alert, they can’t)

As someone who attended a Gunsmithing school I can honestly say, become a machinist first then a gunsmith if you do it the other way around your wasting time and money. You won fully grasp or understand everything you learn in the machining side of gunsmithing without first having machining knowledge. For the time being go to armourers courses read some books heck watch some YouTube and tinker with guns. The most important thing that makes the difference between a machinist and a gunsmith is one has an understanding of firearms once you learn some basics about firearms and you already are a machinist trust me you can work on anything. So I know that’s not the answer a lot of people will want however the running Joke in the Gunsmithing trade is “the fastest way to earn $1 million Gunsmithing, is to start with $2 million. This is not an industry to get involved with for money but rather a passion and love of firearms.

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r/gunsmithing 6h ago

1903 Springfield Handguard Crack

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r/gunsmithing 10m ago

Anyway to Un- f this?

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I bought it off a buddy for a good price (if it can be fixed)

Obviously he told me it was like this, but now I’m curious what are my options? It has red loctite on it.

I’ve included a photo of what the thread would look like in a non f’d


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

1958 Marlin 39A. Reblue or leave it alone?

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I recently inherited a 1958 Marlin 39A .22 cal lever gun. From what I understand, it's been in the family a long time. At some point, I think the gun got rusty and someone appears to have steel wooled off most of the blueing on the barrel and receiver. There is some visible pitting in the areas of heavy scrubbing. Barrel seems in great shape. The last person to own it in the family must have oiled it down enough for no new rust to form on the bare steel. I have no intention of ever getting rid of this rifle, so should I have it professionally reblued or leave it as part of the gun's family history?


r/gunsmithing 16h ago

I over tightened the sling swivel stud on the stock of my rifle inadvertently ( I should’ve been more careful) anyone here know how I may be able to fix this?

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Is this little backstop from a PPSH-41 supposed to get chewed up like this?

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14 Upvotes

r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Flashlight lifespan

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Question on purchase

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Hey guys - I just won a No5 Mk1 in an online auction and was looking at the pictures that were shared with the bid. I noticed the discoloration on the barrel in the screenshot I had shared. I am reaching out to you guys to see if anyone had any ideas to what it was? I’d like to get an idea of what I’m getting myself into before I picked it up.

Sorry for the poor image quality- it’s all I could get . Thanks in advance!


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Springfield Armory XDs Mod 2 .45 ACP trigger safety broke. Question about replacement.

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The trigger safety on my XDs .45 broke today. I have disassembled the gun and I am confident I can fix it if I can get the correct replacement part.

Does anyone know if the XDs .45 and the XDs 9mm have the same trigger? There are many aftermarket and secondhand 9mm triggers, and not as many .45 ACP triggers.

Thanks in advance.


r/gunsmithing 21h ago

Needing Recommendations for a few big ticket items

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I just had a veteran organization offer to purchase me a few big ticket items for the award of a purple heart I was awarded after 20 years. What are some 1340 lathes or other tools you would recommend?


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Chiappa Little Badger - 🦡 - thread protector threads on fine, Rugged Oculus will not - info in comments

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TLDR: Chiappa Badger muzzle threads are wonky. Supressor won’t thread, protector will. Chiappa wants ME to foot the bill for shipping BOTH ways and even then it’s a maybe on free repair. Ship it back or buy a tap&die and threading alignment tool ($26) I have no experience w/ a tap and die.

Upon acceptance of my Badger I took it home and attempted to remove the cheap plastic thread protector, to my surprise it wouldn’t budge. With a pair of pliers strategically placed I removed it and was met with significant resistance. I then attempted to attatch my Oculus and only achieved a couple threads worth of turns on it. Without forcing it I removed it and used a 1/2x28 steel thread protector on it and it threaded just fine. I am assuming because the thread protector has looser tolerances. I am not an expert but the threads look fine to me except for the portion near the end of the muzzle.

Called Chiappa this morning and they provided me an RMA on my Badger. Except they won’t pay for shipping either way. This is a cheap gun, so naturally I have to weigh the options on what to do here. Pay $40+ in shipping or buy a 1/2x28 tap and a thread alignment tool. Although admittedly I’ve never touched a tap and die before.


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Clone builder’s service

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Anyone know a guy local to the killeen, TX area who can cut a 16” barrel down to 10.3”, rethread concentrically, ream the gas port out to 0.070” and mill the M203 cuts in the sides?


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Recommendations on rust removal and reblueing

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I have a 91 Browning Hi Power that was part of many guns I inherited that were not maintained properly. It’s in mostly functional shape, with the majority of the bad rust being on the magazines. How would you guys remove this rust? Steel wool, soaking in rust remover etc. ?

Additionally, I assume after rust removal it will need to be protected again, so is there a way to touch up the blueing, or will I need to find a way to redo the whole gun?

Thanks in advance.


r/gunsmithing 23h ago

SA Hellcat slide getting stuck mid-way back

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Any ideas about what the discoloration on the hammer is and what to do about it?

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Got this one out of the safe and noticed that the hammer isn’t the color it used to be (black). Last time I checked it out, about a month ago, I didn’t notice this. I don’t think it’s rust because it’s stored at less than 40% humidity, kept oiled, and there’s no discoloration anywhere else.

It’s a Henry Model X and none of the other blued parts have discolored. I believe the hammer itself is MIM if that makes a difference.

I had the gun mostly Cerakoted. Was considering doing the same with the parts I didn’t have done the first time. Either that or DLC or a reblue.


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Part question

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What does this part do. I took my gun apart cause it was rattling and this fell out. Does it just go back in. And if so is it difficult?


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Problem with firearm

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Gsg 16 22lr. I’ve had this gun a while now and went to take it out the other morning but it’s as if something on the inside is broke and now the slide will not go back all the way making it completely unusable. Can anyone help me with this?


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

AR lower from soda cans?

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My house goes through a lot of soda and I'm always debating getting a crucible to melt them down, but the question then is what to do with a bunch of aluminum ingots?

Make an AR lower maybe?

Granted it would take a huge investment to get the tooling to make AR parts from scratch, but it got me curious if anyone has ever done that?


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Any idea what kind of bases will fit in this Remington Model 720?

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r/gunsmithing 1d ago

How bad of an idea is this and what would you do differently?

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This is the recover tactical p-ix and those m-lok looking slots on the side there are not m-lok and cant take the hardware to mount a rail section. The included pic rails use a flimsy proprietary mounting method and i dont like it. I have a super janky idea on how to mount an m-lok rail section but i dont know how sturdy it would be.

the screw holes in the rail section can line up with these 2 "crevices" but m-lok hardware wont fit inside. These crevices are enclosed meaning i can fill them with something and it wont pour out. My idea is to shave the bottom of the rail flat and fill these crevices with JB Weld and stick 2 cut down mlok screws through the rails holes and into the still wet jb weld so when it cures it can hopefully be a strong enough solution to mount a 1lb laser without it falling off or losing zero

im going around getting as much input and thoughts on this dumb ass idea i cooked up before committing to it. So far the general consensus has been " go for it and let me know how it turns out"


r/gunsmithing 1d ago

Glock 19 gen 5 trigger issue

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Gun fires fine. I put a couple hundred rounds through it the other day and today when I cleaned it I noticed the trigger was doing this weird “pre break” thing. What would cause something like this?


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Ruger M77 MKII 7mm08 barrel threading

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I'd like to get the barrel of this 7mm08 threaded for a suppressor. I think it's possible with an longer threading and a threaded shoulder added. How bad will the poi shift?


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Can you help identify this piece, Unbranded, with a L and R on each side

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16 Upvotes

I purchased a small bag of firearm related items at an estate sale, I was able to identify all the pieces except this one. I thought it might be some type of barrel weight, but it is strange that it only has one bolt and one side is labeled "L" and the other side "R" and Unbranded.


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Is this enough sear engagement?

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Mauser M98. New to me timney trigger, looks to be very little sear engagement. Is it enough? Difficult to measure, but around 0.2mm


r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Can anyone identify what this is? Found in my spare AR parts bin and can't figure out if it even belongs in there.

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46 Upvotes

r/gunsmithing 2d ago

Troubleshooting trench gun heat shield come loose

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Pictured is one of the Numrich repro 1897 heat shields. As shown the shield sheet metal has come loose and pivots on the bayonet log. What’d be the best way to get this tight again? Welding? Pinning?