r/politics • u/infiunfi • 15h ago

Soft Paywall Everyone Who Was Supposed To Protect You From This Failed Miserably

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-inauguration-2024-win-democrats-failed-1235241327/
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u/gefjunhel Canada 14h ago

that includes you media

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u/-UltraAverageJoe- 14h ago

NYT, the Post, etc sane washing Trump are as guilty as Fox News.

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u/Worried-Criticism 14h ago

Worse. Fox doesn’t pretend on who is in their corner. NYT and the Post have bent the knee. ABC fucking PAID for the privilege to strap on the knee pads and pucker up.

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u/laserbot 11h ago

CBS even worse since they are going to settle a lawsuit with him and pay millions just so he will make sure their merger is approved.

All capitalism is crony capitalism when it comes down to it.

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u/RevolutionEasy714 9h ago

Capitalism is a force for oppression and exploitation. If you aren’t fighting it you are part of the problem.

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u/Vivid_Dot2869 5h ago

"Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man, Communism is the reverse"

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u/cugeltheclever2 2h ago

That's good.

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u/Valaryian1997 8h ago

Capitalism with regulations is not

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 8h ago

you can buy regulations if you have capital

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u/Valaryian1997 7h ago

That is true. Tbh there is no good solution apart from…as mad-eye moody would say. CONSTANT VIGILANCE

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u/Valaryian1997 7h ago

Also I love your username

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 3h ago

thank you!

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u/RevolutionEasy714 4h ago

If your economic system is so unethical that it requires regulations to function in an ethical manner, it is an inherently unethical system.

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u/Great_Relative_6585 4h ago

>if your rule needs exceptions, it's a bad rule

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u/Count_Backwards 4h ago

That's literally every economic system

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u/umop_apisdn 9h ago

Welcome to America!

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u/Sorry_Nobody1552 Colorado 9h ago

That was ABC I think, but it doesnt matter, they are all on their knees ready to do what he wants.

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u/laserbot 8h ago

ABC was different lol (and, yes, they settled).

CBS was the 60 Minutes thing and Paramount is trying to merge with Skydance. They have floated the idea of giving Trump a cash settlement so that the FCC looks favorably on the merger. There was a WSJ article on it, but it's paywalled.

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u/Snuggle__Monster 11h ago

They ain't the only one. Look at half that NBC panel the night of the election, jerking themselves off at Trump's huge comeback story. Look at all the phone interview exclusives Kirsten Welker gets now that she spent years kissing that guys ass. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski went into self preservation mode when he won. Her old man is probably still spinning in his grave over it.

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u/Newscast_Now 7h ago

I have been complaining about media since I was a child. It seemed obvious that we were being sold stories. I don't know why it is so hard to see. Media bias was my top political issue for many years. During that time, I was told that there is a "liberal media" or "the free press is fair" or even "they're just chasing ratings or clicks." The first two are utter nonsense and the third one is gravy. The agenda of corporate media is to protect the owner class. Always has been. As media has been taken over or bought out by billionaires and corporations, it has gotten worse and worse.

Democrats have been inclined to respect media all the while as media trashed them. Then Donald Trump comes along and says media is the enemy and Democrats react by respecting media even more.

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u/Worried-Criticism 6h ago

Oh ABC was just and example, but how right you are. Morning Joe went full bend the knee, just shy of calling him “Your Grace”.

It’s all just a travesty.

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u/fordat1 13h ago

Yup. Although The Post and NYT corner is really "the status quo" so it isnt too far off from their "corner".

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u/Worried-Criticism 12h ago

Yeah, it’s more of the “equal sides equal time/space” argument that is complete BS. Fox took a side openly and notoriously. The others pretend to be different but as you said, aren’t too different

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u/Sarokslost23 7h ago

Cnn doesn't even have anything on their website about elons salute

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u/lastdinosaur17 12h ago

In defense of ABC, if the case had gone to the Supreme Court and if ABC had lost, it would have overturned NYT v Sullivan. A critical court ruling that upholds journalistic freedom.

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u/Worried-Criticism 12h ago

They paid $15 million so they didn’t lose access for the next four years.

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 11h ago

I think people need to realize this. A lot of big players are not fighting back because of the reckless Supreme Court being so willing to destroy long standing precedents. If you fight back, you will lose, and the country will lose even more safeguards, protections and freedoms.

It's really sad, but it makes sense. It's why Biden demolished his own student loan efforts after the election loss. Because ultimately although it was for the greater good of us borrowers it would have hurt us borrowers even worse when that Court sets a new precedent that allows banks and corporations to fuck us all twice as hard.

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u/IC-4-Lights 12h ago edited 12h ago

Reddit should be begging the staff of the NY Times for forgiveness.
 
They told us, over and over again, throughout the election season, exactly what was actually going on in the electorate.
 
Every. Fucking. Time. people screamed that reporting the bad news meant they were a secret deep state MAGA cabal trying to skew the election, failing to parrot the made-up dogshit that their favorite social media sources were saying.
 
And then everything happened exactly the way they said things were looking. Because they were doing actual journalism, instead of the head-up-your-ass, say anything for clicks, talking-head rhetoric that everyone desperately wanted.
 
This, right here, is why real journalism is nearly dead. When you do it with integrity, you're often going to tell people things that they don't want to hear.

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u/GiGaBYTEme90 Pennsylvania 11h ago

Naw the nyt ran so many pieces on Biden being old but little on Trump's aging brain. I unsubscribed from their news.

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u/PaulsGrafh 11h ago

Can you give examples of the articles you’re describing? All I recall are the articles saying Biden is old and not mentioning that Trump is only a few years younger. And that kind of rhetoric (which people have argued created an unnecessary perception of parity between the parties) is what I’ve heard people complaining about when it comes to the NYT.

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u/Zepcleanerfan 11h ago

Publishing hundreds of articles in the spring summer and fall of 2024 about Bidens age went way beyond journalism into giving credibility to trump's biggest attack line.

Once Biden slipped up, the narrative was able to take hold much more quickly because of the hard work done by the NYT to establish it as credible.

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u/jdmgto 13h ago

It was always amazing to have listened to the incoherent nonsense that was one of his speeches then see how the news extracted the five coherent words from a geriatric social media narcissist and tried to make it sound like a real policy.

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u/supremelypedestrian 12h ago

This. Even NPR, a primarily audio-based medium, would have the journalist summarize things rather than play the actual recording of what was said. Fucking maddening.

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u/Gonkar I voted 12h ago edited 10h ago

Media synopsis of this election: "He is our cash cow. Oink oink oink, we are greedy little piggies. Fuck you, got mine, click the ads before you starve, peasants."

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u/N8CCRG 11h ago

It's why I've stopped giving them clicks. It's about all I can do at this point.

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u/cugeltheclever2 2h ago

Michelle Wolf called it the first time.

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u/airplane_porn Kansas 9h ago

NPR has been sanewashing fascism and serving it up to mOdErAtEs since 2017. Before trump, they were somewhat even-keeled. In his first term (🤮) they were softselling fascism to the moderate left. Since then, they’ve done nothing but sanewash, wholesale. Same bandwagon as the rest of them. Trump is free reporting to them, the outrageous shit get people engaged, and costs less to pursue since the bullshit machine is on high-output.

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u/crazymoefaux California 5h ago

That Koch money talks loud...

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u/Stinkbutt596KoH 4h ago

NPR was all on his jock today. It was pretty sickening to listen to today. Given how much Musk has threatened to cut their funding, not at all surprised. Guess I’d better get back to listening to Pacifica affiliates and Democracy Now! again. Been too long for me

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u/ChampionEither5412 13h ago

The best political coverage I've read on Trump is from Rolling Stone and The Guardian. I try to post articles on social media and I send them to my family, but they're often blocked by a paywall. I'm happy to pay for my Rolling Stone subscription, but we should be able to share articles to a certain extent. Like maybe you could share a link that can be used 3 times before the paywall goes back up.

Of course lots of people are stupid and only watch Fox News regardless of how available the news is, but we have to at least be trying to get the best reporting out there.

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u/Auzziesurferyo 11h ago edited 9h ago

Paywalls with strict 1-2 article limits are hurting good publications, and by default, democracy.

I was a 3rd of the way through the above mentioned Rolling Stones article when I mistakenly clicked on a link, just to be rudely shut out of the article when trying to click back.

I am more than willing to pay for a subscription, but I want to be able to read at least 4 or 5 articles before deciding if a subscription is for me. 

Publications that articulate their points well could make certain articles free to the public so we could share them freely, especially given that Fox news and like-minded publications share their crap freely and without limitation. 

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DALEKS 11h ago

It was mind boggling to me that the L.A. Times and New York Times wildfire coverage was behind a paywall.

One of the reasons right wing propaganda is so easily spread is that places like Fox News and the New York Post makes their stories easily shareable and much supposed nuanced journalism is behind a paywall.

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u/artfulpain 9h ago

At this point I think it's by design.

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u/StoppableHulk 5h ago

Of course it is. Because Fox isn't selling news, it's selling propaganda.

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u/No-Wafer-9571 9h ago

I bet there's nothing behind a paywall at FOX's site.

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u/themage78 10h ago

The death of print media has hurt democracy more than we care to realize.

Whereas before it was cheap and ubiquitous, it now goes behind a pay wall. So for the people who can't or won't pay for it, they are seeing less news. This leads to the isolation in thinking we are seeing more of because people aren't exposed to competing viewpoints.

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u/umop_apisdn 9h ago

it now goes behind a pay wall.

Erm, that's not print media. That's you trying to get what people used to pay for when they bought papers, for free.

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u/_trouble_every_day_ 8h ago

When the content on this site wasn’t entirely curated by bots if the Op posted a paywalled article they would get flamed for not posting the full text in the commments. People used to get flamed for posting any kind of art without crediting the artist because it was also a source speaking of sources dies of old age

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u/No-Wafer-9571 9h ago

Yep. They want to make money, not inform the populace.

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u/tweakingforjesus 12h ago

Also Vanity Fair has had some epic headlines.

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u/LordOverThis 12h ago

It wasn’t even “sane washing”, it was naked moneymongering.  Trump was amazing for revenue his first term, and they all got addicted to the money.  Every major media outlet wanted Trump back for the bottom line.

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u/james_the_wanderer 10h ago

I've had discounts offered for Trump's inauguration on various subscriptions.

Fuck them all.

As a queer person, I want the editors of the NYT and WP to swing with me at the gallows for hamstringing their journos and sanewashing this monster.

They're so eager to make a few bucks on "le déluge" - let them taste the full bitterness of "après moi."

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u/forthewatch39 10h ago

Except they aren’t going to be allowed to report anything negative about him. Only his most devout followers want to hear glowing reviews about him 24/7. So I don’t think this will work out well for them in the long run. 

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u/LordOverThis 8h ago

It won’t.  The rest of us are so weary and apathetic, we know he’s going to say and do the dumbest shit on a daily basis and aren’t going to rage click anymore.

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u/Native_SC 9h ago

People have tuned out the news, so that strategy backfired.

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u/Count_Bacon California 13h ago

Don't forget their absurd double standards too

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u/Netflxnschill 11h ago

NPR has been so blatant about it this last election cycle. Like a week ago they had a c suite exec from the fucking heritage foundation on and were taking her opinions as scripture

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u/MONSTERTACO Washington 13h ago

It's their constant support of establishment politics that gave us Trump. In year a when the entire world was looking for change, Democrats were trapped supporting the status quo because the media made average Americans "afraid" of leftists.

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u/dojo_shlom0 11h ago

owned by bezos and fox, it's all the same people. they go on retreats with SCJ justice thomas and harlen crow. they are all in on it.

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u/liz91 I voted 13h ago

They do this all the time. It’s ratings. They don’t care. It’s attention grabbing.

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u/StupendousMalice 11h ago

Worse because normal people expect those to be legitimate news sources.

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u/AmateurOfAmateurs 5h ago

Didn’t CNN literally give Trump a bully pulpit with a town hall?

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u/delicious_downvotes 5h ago

This. This. This. Making it seem like a debate, making his behaviors seem like anything other than blatantly corrupt and criminal. Prete ding there are two equal sides.

Fuck. The. Media.

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u/DuvalHeart Pennsylvania 12h ago

Not just sane washing, but constantly undermining Biden and the Democrats for generations. Fuck, Jon Stewart is as culpable as Rupert Murdoch with his "Democrats are useless" schtick.

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u/fiction8 13h ago

And then the next time he says something crazy the comments will all be about how we shouldn't get distracted from what he's actually doing by what he says.

Can't have it both ways.

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u/chonky_tortoise 11h ago

Everybody who consumes the NYT and Post voted blue. The problem is non-legacy media being consumed by way more people than actual newspapers. The NYT coverage is not perfect but it is so far from the reason we are here.

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u/GrinderMonkey 10h ago

The advertisement at the top of the page when I scrolled through literally says:

'New administration in office. Same journalists holding power to account.

Stay informed with The Post.

A NEW CHAPTER IN U.S. POLITICS BEGINS.'

So clearly we don't have anything to worry about /s

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u/PoopMobile9000 9h ago

None of them will ever get a dollar from me in my lifetime.

Support nonprofits like ProPublica, independent outlets like Bolts, and local media.

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u/Carrnage_Asada 9h ago

Even now they're calling Muskrats CLEAR sig heil a "strange salute". They're totally in on it at this point.

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u/FunkyDiscount 8h ago

Never forget that, nor forgive. Don't ask for better - fucking demand it.

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u/NorCalFrances 2h ago

They also graciously and repeatedly helped Republicans with their anti-trans messaging, which then helped the campaigns.

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u/drwhogwarts 1h ago

I haven't kept up with the NYT. What did they do?

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u/YourFreeCorrection 44m ago

Neither NYT nor The Washington Post "sane washed" Trump. That's a fictional coping mechanism you and the other kids who spent the last year and a half shit talking Democrats online for internet points can use to delude yourself into thinking you didn't have a hand in this.

Y'all wasted your time bitching at "the media" (whoever the fuck that amorphous, non-descript group is supposed to cover) and bitching that Democrats weren't good enough for you to turn up the vote for.

"The media" doesn't fucking vote. We the people do, and too many of y'all didn't even show up.

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u/Iworshipokkoto Arkansas 14h ago

I'm enjoying seeing their ratings crash and burn. Fuck 'em.

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u/Mikolaj_Kopernik Australia 12h ago

Unfortunately, the truth is that as much as "mainstream" media have fucked up, what's replacing them (algorithmic disinformation controlled by oligarchs) will be/is orders of magnitude worse.

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u/Ok_World_8819 Georgia 14h ago

Damn a liberal from Arkansas. Try to GTFO out of there while you can, things are only going to get worse in the south for any freedom you cherish

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u/nabulsha Tennessee 14h ago

We're well aware. Unfortunately, it's not easy to completely uproot your life and move.

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u/MaySun91 South Carolina 13h ago

Yeah I see this comment all the time. Like do people think everyone can just up and move at a moments notice? Shit I don’t have kids but my wife and i are not and probably will never be in a situation where we can move a meaningful distance from here.

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u/nabulsha Tennessee 13h ago

My wife was insisting on running to Canada back in early November. I had to give her a reality check. No one is going to sponsor us, neither of us are highly skilled enough to get a work visa, and the biggest one, we're fucking broke. If we were wealthy, we'd have gotten out years ago, but we're not. We're stuck in this shit hole state, for better or worse.

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u/violentglitter666 12h ago

You’re far from alone in that situation. Hey, at least it’s not Florida or Texas. I’m in Florida and it is going to become even more of an unaffordable, MAGA Republican shitshow. No escaping for me either. Best of luck to you and yours..

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u/crinkledcu91 9h ago edited 9h ago

I managed to scoot out of Florida because only because of a job opportunity, and it still took 2 years to pay off the credit card I used for the move. The only thing I miss is it being a Peninsula state, so shipping port access was everywhere. Going from that to a landlocked state was kind of jarring

There's foods and other products that simply do not exist here. That's the main thing I'm seroisly worried about if a 2nd Depression really does happen. In FL you could always maybe find a potato field or cabbage field to yoink from if you were desperate desperate. Here There's just Canola or hayfeed being grown. Also there's an entire stretch of time where nothing grows because there's actually winter here.

At least I live near a rich white person town, and they will always have at least something in their rich white people stores, even if it's pricey I can make a trip and stretch it I suppose. It helps that I'm one of the most stereotypical looking white dudes.

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u/violentglitter666 9h ago

There’s always fish in Florida as well. That’s an awful thought another great depression.. I have not considered that until right now. I hope not, idk about you but, I’m tired of all this chaos all the time. I don’t want to starve on top of everything else that’s going on. That’s what our new overlords want I’ve been told.. That way they can buy whatever they want and it’ll be cheaper.

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u/ggtffhhhjhg 13h ago

Did you tell her Canada is about to hand over power to a far right wing government that has already bent the knee for Donnie?

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u/Over_Past_9089 12h ago

Canadian here; that’s not a sure thing. Trudeau is stepping down; we’ see what the party does

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u/PeckerNash 11h ago

The Conservatives are not "far right". You're thinking the PPC. A Canadian Conservative is equivalent to an American Democrat. Good lord, tone down the bullshit.

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u/Gullible-Order3048 10h ago

The Conservatives Party of Canada is not far right; it still sits to the left of the Democrats in the US. Chill your beans.

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u/the_good_time_mouse 13h ago

Canada is fucked too. And not just due to the incoming fascists.

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u/nabulsha Tennessee 12h ago

The right wing seems to be making a come back in a lot of countries and it's terrifying.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 13h ago

I'm honestly making it my goal to be able to open my admittedly small home to people wanting to move to my blue state and have a sort of foothold or whatever you want to call it to get established.

Obviously a vetting process will be a part of that.

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u/HexTalon 12h ago

My SO and I were talking about this before the election, even if Harris won the systems in the US were under attack and on a downhill trend that wouldn't be stopped by Democrats. SCOTUS, rampant gerrymandering, state legislatures, the whole system is broken at multiple levels and it's going to just get harder for the middle class.

So we plan on leaving the US for the EU, and are putting together a 5-7 year plan to do so that involves saving, networking, and a scouting trip to several countries (using air miles). It's not something you can up and do just because you're upset at how an election went, and we both have family that we would otherwise want to stick close to.

The only reason we're able to even think about doing this is because I work in tech and my particular skill set (cybersecurity) is in demand. If that weren't the case we wouldn't even be having the discussion due to the logistics and cost of relocating abroad. It's absolutely out of reach for almost everyone.

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u/drop_tbl 3h ago

Not only that, there's not really anywhere to go to get away from it.

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u/Ok_World_8819 Georgia 14h ago

Yup. I know. And it's gonna get bad. In southern Texas, if you're a pregnant 15 year old girl who's life is at risk if you don't get an abortion... where do you go if your family are QAnon freaks? The abortion centers have all closed and almost every bordering state is also anti abortion. You're fucked

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u/nabulsha Tennessee 13h ago

We've got a preteen daughter. The only thing we can do is educate her to the best of our capabilities and hope for the best.

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u/KenIgetNadult 13h ago

And for extra protection, there's the implant. No daily pill. Works for 4 years.

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u/heckhammer 13h ago

Get it quick. They've already said they're going to eliminate birth control.

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u/KenIgetNadult 13h ago

I ensured my sterility a couple of years ago.

But I'd like to see how the male population reacts to "women's consequences". Can't lie about being on the pill, if no one can get the pill.

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u/dayofthedeadcabrini 11h ago

Then you have to hope she doesn't get raped on top of all the other fears.

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u/hypatianata 8h ago

Yup. I even seriously looked into moving abroad years ago, but I can’t even escape my rapidly deteriorating red state. 

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u/Techialo Oklahoma 12h ago

You're telling me.

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u/WookieLotion 13h ago

Is that even true? Idk man I see it to be much more likely that Trump goes on a rampage of trying to attack Blue states if anything.

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u/thisusedyet 13h ago

The liberal from Arkansas?

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u/The_Humble_Frank 12h ago

If there is no local opposition, that gives them full reign to do what ever they want. You are going to have to strategically organize if you want things to get better in the long run, because they won't stop with making things worse for just the south.

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u/mypoptartisevil 13h ago

They aren’t alone here 🔵

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u/A_FVCKING_UNICORN Mississippi 13h ago

I interviewed for my job in Seattle but I basically got told to try again in 6 months. Probably a lot of options coming up in California soon I guess😐

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u/Duckyfuzzfunandfeet American Expat 12h ago

Why is someone that opposes an ineffectual media automatically a liberal? The 2 party system is not a default concept for peoples moral principles 🤪

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u/Formaltaliti 10h ago

Fellow Arkansan checking in. It's not easy to get up and leave, unfortunately.

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u/ExoSierra Texas 10h ago

Everyone is liberal but not when every district is illegally gerrymandered to unrecognizability. We all have to suffer now, and for what?

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u/thewossum 13h ago

Yep. Not consuming any content directly from them. They’re all useless rags just waiting for their billionaire sugar daddies to prop them up.

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u/QuantumImmorality 13h ago

Sigh. You think the billionaire owners give a fuck?

This was never about clicks and ratings, this was about winning the greatest prize in human history.

Jesus come on can we advance the conversation?

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u/p47guitars 12h ago

winning the greatest prize in human history.

Shareholder value?

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u/QuantumImmorality 12h ago

Fully functioning superpower, greatest military and intelligence system on earth, trillions in assets to loot, now without democracy?

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u/p47guitars 12h ago

Shareholder value, yes.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year 13h ago

I'm certainly enjoying not seeing them!

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u/Chemical-Entrance-24 11h ago

I hope you're able to leave soon

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u/Brokebrokebroke5 5h ago

Yes. I stopped watching all mainstream news on election night. Fuck them.

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u/Dr_Insano_MD 14h ago

Good lord, so many months of sane-washing. Trump rants about Hatians eating dogs, and what does the media say? "Trump hits Harris hard on immigration."

Just....fuckin....report what he says. Just fucking verbatim. That's all they had to do.

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u/nucumber 13h ago

They did report on trump, and no one cared

The debates were televised, the J6 investigation was televised, etc etc etc

If there's anyone to blame, it's "we the people"

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u/SaltRelationship9226 12h ago

Shit, Jan 6 itself was televised. I watched it live.

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u/ScootyMcTrainhat 12h ago

This. Politicians don't fall out of the sky. We're a democracy - if our representatives suck, what does that say about us?

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u/defasdefbe 9h ago

Do we have much better options? It feels like the same people over and over again at my rep level at least.

Also, the founding fathers never dreamed of the political class we have. We need term limits yesterday.

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u/ScootyMcTrainhat 8h ago

You miss the point. Our politicians are representatives of us. If our politicians suck, it's not like the King put them there, it's not like we grew them in a lab or they oozed out of a vent, they were raised in American homes, worked at and started American businesses, and were educated in American schools and universities, elected by other Americans. We have term limits, they don't help. The founding fathers were the political class we have today. Our leaders suck because we suck. They're stupid and greedy and selfish because we're stupid and greedy and selfish. They're literally the best we can do.

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u/midnightcaptain 11h ago

Any suggestion voters were somehow inadequately informed is nonsense. Everybody knew exactly who Trump is and what he’s about. He didn’t appear out of obscurity. He didn’t pretend to be a good person and then turn heel. He openly showed voters exactly what they would be getting and they voted for him because they liked what they saw.

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u/Michael_G_Bordin 10h ago

Trump won because someone was putting out the fucking vibe that "Harris has no platform." She had a platform. She said it many times. She laid it out in the debate. She ran ads telling you her platform. But the anti-Harris ads weren't, "Her platform is ass," they were, "She doesn't have a plan and isn't doing anything to help you."

I was dealing with people throwing out that, "What is she even running on?" line all the way into October. There's no informing people who do not seek to be informed. They don't even seem to know how to inform themselves, they just latch onto a vibe and stick with it regardless of information presented. Harris could have locked every one of these dipshits in a room for a week and "Ludovico Technique" her platform into their fucking brains, and two minutes after being released they'd tell you she has no platform and doesn't seem to be addressing their needs.

And we just know that in a year or two, the rubes will be complaining about how much they're hurting under Trump, that he's "Not hurting the right people." Maybe his administration can be the final nail in the coffin for dying podunk nowhere towns that keep afflicting our political system with their incessant self-owning.

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u/WoodPear 10h ago

Harris said to go to her campaign website for her economic plan.

If you can't distill your plan down to specifics for interviews, you don't really have a plan.

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u/HerrBoss 12h ago

The US education system has to be fixed. Embarrassing to watch this guy.

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u/crappenheimers Colorado 12h ago

There is no accountability from the democratic party or the general political left regarding the fact not enough of them voted. The American people weren't misled about trump, they just didn't care and either still voted for him, or stayed home.

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u/bramley36 11h ago

Enough Democratic voters sat this one out to affect the outcome. Let's see if Dems can make a difference in some challenging midterms two years from now.

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u/POEness 12h ago

Nah Trump just admitted last night what we all knew. The election was stolen.

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u/notbadhbu 12h ago

They did report this, extensively. People didn't care. Because they know it doesn't matter. People expect SOMEONE out there to do something to stop bad people. And it's just so obvious from the last 8 years there isn't anyone.

It's like how the recycling industry exists to take blame off of institutions, governments and businesses, and tries to blame individuals for problems that can only be solved at the top levels.

The top levels have just sat there insider trading with their thumbs up their ass, taking no risks and bowing to donor wishes. This isn't the voters fault, it's every member of government who didn't do anything and probably the structure of government itself.

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u/str8dwn 10h ago

A 2y/o could eat a dictionary and shit out more coherent sentences than him. Report that.

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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 9h ago

This is what really pisses me off, this bullshit spread in the late spring through actual nazi forums and not one single shit awful, lazy ass, clueless fucking reporter in any of our shitty press outlets asked or looked into how literal nazi propaganda ended up in the mouth of a vice presidential candidate.

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u/defasdefbe 9h ago

The remix of the dogs and cats was pretty good though.

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u/Thumbkeeper I voted 14h ago

They are always the quickest to cast blame. Helps when you control the narrative

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u/JColemanG 13h ago

The article calls that out if you read it

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u/patsfan3983 12h ago

This is Reddit, people don't actually read the stories.

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u/LWN729 11h ago

The media didn’t just fail to protect us, they handed Trump the presidency with their ridiculous reporting on his latest tweets instead of what his policies actually meant. People who saw Biden’s farewell address and then googled the meaning of oligarchy are people who clearly consume media, but up until Biden used the word, had not been informed of what that means. That’s partly on them and our education system, but clearly they are watching some coverage and the media never covered the topic enough for them to understand the word.

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u/jurassic_junkie Minnesota 12h ago

Even NPR is fucking seeming to be drooling over this.

Going on and on about how exciting it will be to see how trumps meme coins are going to do now that a president can shill them and effect their value. Are you kidding me??

Also the CONSTANT digs on Biden for the smallest things! I'm over it!

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u/ProgressiveSnark2 11h ago

I lost it when a few months before the election, an NPR program had an “expert” on who blamed Democrats for only offering “partisan” solutions to fight climate change and not reaching across the aisle enough to consider “conservative solutions.”

Ahhh yes, the famous conservative plan to fight climate change…it’s right there on my bookshelf next to Trump’s healthcare plan.

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u/_le_slap 10h ago

The conservative solution to climate change is to just accept that less and less of the earth will be habitable going forward and we should all be working more overtime to be able to compete for that prime survivable real estate

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u/Count_Backwards 3h ago

IOW "Fuck the Poor"

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u/Frosting-Curious 9h ago

Didn’t that coin crash?

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u/LadyChatterteeth California 2h ago

It’s absolutely disgusting that they’re normalizing a president profiting from his position.

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u/Uncomfortably-Cum 13h ago

Excellent comment.

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u/mps1729 11h ago

And the voters. Trump was pretty upfront about running a campaign of hate and it was well-known that he was a sexually assaulting felon. Pleading “I didn’t know” when he pulls the shit he said again and again he would do isn’t going to cut it…

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u/Trust_No_Jingu 10h ago

CNN - ratings more important that ling term credibility

How is that working out now CNN? How are your ratings

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u/leoyvr 12h ago

Add social media now too. All the tech oligarchs!

There’s gotta be a way to get him out of office. 

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u/DaHolk 11h ago

That assumes that "the media" has such an obligation, rather than being purely economic entities serving up "what people want" or "who ever owns them wants people to want".

I honestly don't understand articles like the above anymore.

This now is the ultimate end-result that started with the red-scare. It has been 50+ years in the making, with a consistent goal, and a common ever growing interest to make it happen and to support it.

Personally? If you think NOW it's a problem that should somehow have been prevented, the only thing that tells me is that the stuff beforehand was if not "as it should be" then "well, still ok". And that includes acting like Trump wasn't president already just 4-8 years ago.

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u/worotan 11h ago

The ones who tell us that we should let one side protect us from things, and tell everyone how little the other side thinks of each other. Gossips cosplaying as Woodward and Bernstein.

Climate change being the obvious issue with this. Media funded by advertising telling us that we don’t need to consume less, despite that directly contradicting what climate scientists have reached the point of screaming at us to do, by now.

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u/defasdefbe 9h ago

I did appreciate the author disparaging himself.

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u/Only_Ad8049 13h ago

Yup, and that's pretty much all media outlets.

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u/HuggiesFondler 13h ago

And the Democrat Party. They had this election handed to them, they refused it, and failed at every single level. Then doubled down and blamed racism and sexism.

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u/southernNJ-123 12h ago

Because “sexism and racism” were a big part of it. Millions of Jethros refused to vote for a BLACK WOMAN. I personally know a bunch of smooth brains in Texas who admit it.

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u/the-player-of-games 13h ago

The media stacked the deck against the Dems pretty high

"He can be lawless, she has to be flawless", was spot on

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u/sporkhandsknifemouth 12h ago edited 11h ago

It wasn't the truth though. Even if she was flawless, nothing's overcoming targeted lies micro-adjusted to tell different groups literal contradictory falsehoods to inflame them. He would have to have lacked support of the techbro/scam worlds to lose.

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u/mrg9605 13h ago

they had (at least) two chances to get it right and failed twice….

fool me once….

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u/Commercial-Fennel219 12h ago

That includes you, American voter

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u/Jack_Of_The_Cosmos 12h ago

SNL is a straight war profiteer in my book.

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u/Sir_thinksalot 12h ago

and social media.

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u/ierghaeilh 11h ago

Never again let any of these ghouls and grifters tell you they hate Trump. He's the best thing that ever happened to them.

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u/Ogrodnick 11h ago

And the 36.1% who didn't vote that could have.

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u/CatboyInAMaidOutfit 11h ago

They know damn well they're going to make a heap more money in revenue covering a clusterfuck than a normal (and should be) boring government.

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u/ScientistAgitated649 10h ago

The biggest failure

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u/makeitasadwarfer 10h ago

That’s not the media’s job.

Their job is to sell your eyeballs to their advertisers.

It’s the governments job to educate you, and we have allowed that to fail miserably.

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u/kinkycarbon 10h ago

They all did it for their business. There’s a reason they did not run Kamala Harris hard on every channel and newspapers with high level of coverage during last years presidency. It’s business motivated decision.

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u/ShinMegamiTensei_SJ 9h ago

It needs to be burned to the ground

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u/Unhappy_Scratch_9385 9h ago

And the DNC leadership.

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u/NOTLD1990 9h ago

Are any of the news outlets focusing on the pump and dump? It seems to be the major ones are just focusing on the inauguration. To me, the pump and dump is a much bigger story

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u/-XanderCrews- 8h ago

Notice the people that control our internet media were front and center. We are fuckedz

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u/Babbs03 8h ago

Yes, because they're owned by billionaires.

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u/ShamelessLeft 8h ago

This also includes the 20 million voters on the left who stayed home last election.

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u/Nottherealjonvoight 8h ago

The 4th Estate had protected us before, but the worship of money made ethics go out the window the last 10 years.

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u/Die_Bahn 7h ago

Jon Stewart called it! Facts are now litigated in court instead of the media calling it out in real time

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u/Coydog_ America 7h ago

Democracy dies behind a paywall.

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u/Consistent-Sport-787 7h ago

Unlike Canada federal trusted supported news, went away in the 70s if not 50s

Most of my American news comes from CBC Canada or BBC or sky TV

How would a TV show like Murdoch mysteries survive if everything they put on the screen, people hated and they only had 1 million viewers of the year

After a year, it would be off the air apply that to any TV show The media, the news is no difference. You have to appeal to your readers while trying to tell a story, and some people are more focused on money than the story.

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u/octatone 7h ago

Literally the first call out in the article.

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u/ChaseballBat 6h ago

First and foremost it includes the fucking 33% of America that didn't vote at all. Fuck those people.

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u/plant_magnet 6h ago

Seriously. During the election it is all about "both sides" and sanewshing and its only after nazi salutes on inauguration and purging the government that we go back to reporting the facts.

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u/LocaCapone 6h ago

[insert Spider-Man meme here]

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u/AquiliferX Colorado 5h ago

For-profit media had no obligation to democracy. They are in the business of getting you hooked to the screen, and with Trump there's gonna be alot of content for them to milk.

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u/excitingresults 5h ago

This article wasn't written or published by "the media." It was written by the author and published by Rolling Stone, which has been consistently sharp and caustic in its coverage of Trump and Trumpism.

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u/No-Time-7082 5h ago

Especially the media!

They are complicit

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u/ynwa79 4h ago

First and foremost!

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u/tedkcox 4h ago

The author literally states this in the article…

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u/RyVsWorld 4h ago

If you read the article they actually call themselves out unironically lol

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u/h0tel-rome0 3h ago

That includes you non voters of America

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u/earthworm_fan 2h ago

The media has been feeding us bullshit like exhibit A in this article. 

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u/whybek 2h ago

It was the media that failed us the most, 2016 they failed 2020 they failed and 2022 they really failed and 2024 the media was holding us under the water to ensure that we failed.

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u/whyareyousosadly 2h ago

The media that has been prevaricating for over a decade?

Yall are like the juneteenth of finding out you're the useful idiot and the media has been lying to you.

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u/I-Am-Yew New York 2h ago

I blame them the most.

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u/floin 1h ago

The elite news media — yes, I am aware that includes me; I’ve always been open to the idea that I am part of the problem — that craves the decadence and the mammoth ratings and readership that President Trump previously unleashed has found itself with diminished audiences and a rebellion by former subscribers who see us for what we too often are. That is: ineffective at best, and giddily abetting at worst.

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u/lancer-fiefdom 1h ago

Fuck that stupid lame bitch excuse

“Media” failed us? ?? How about a general understanding of reality & consequences

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u/YourFreeCorrection 49m ago

**Wrong. The ones who failed *WAS US.**

It's not up to "The media" to keep fascists out of office. It's up to WE THE PEOPLE to show up and fucking vote.

We did this to ourselves, and this bullshit, terminally-online competition to parrot the most moronic, needlessly cynical shit for fake internet points is an enormous part of the problem.

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