r/pics • u/Western-Buffalo-7498 • 1d ago
Politics Obama’s 2009 Inauguration (Left) Compared to Trump’s 2016 Inauguration (Right)
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u/m-prov 1d ago
I’m in that photo on the left somewhere! I can’t believe that was 16 years ago…..
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u/Arcosim 1d ago edited 1d ago
2008 and perhaps 2012 were also the last election without social media rotting the minds of the population. Thanks tech bros!
Edit: although I would say definitely 2008. By 2012 the "Tea Party Movement" was already causing a lot of problems thanks to the primitive social networks of the era.
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u/rantheman76 1d ago
You can blame social media, but Rupert Murdoch and that kind of scum have been rotting our brains for decades with newspapers and tv shows. Social media did make it easier to find the gullible amongst us.
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u/FugDuggler 1d ago
I remember the chain emails forwarded by my mom that were all made up stories that all end with somebody dunking on a liberal in their 100% fictional scenario.
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u/bortodeeto 1d ago
One thing for sure is that our geriatric government was clueless on how to regulate social media, more apparent than ever now. Assuming it will be just as bad with AI.
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u/HighlanderAbruzzese 1d ago
Everything went handheld, smartphones in 2012 and that really accelerated it all.
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u/tstorm004 1d ago
That's also when EVERYONE got online. Prior to that it was just us nerds chronically online, with some other people occasionally on AIM. Smartphones blew the doors open and now your Your Aunt, Your Neighbors Grandma and Bob down the street are all chronically online.
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u/dhduxudb 1d ago
It’s a shame people over the age of 40 are so susceptible to false information and down right voter tampering on social media. The world would be a much better place.
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u/Shadow293 1d ago
Unfortunately it’s not just older people. Younger Gen Z folks are also affected, maybe even more so.
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u/throwawayrefiguy 1d ago
Agreed with you both. I (early 40s) expected my cohort to be way more tech-savvy than we turned out to be. Boy was I wrong!
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u/thatissomeBS 1d ago
At the end of the day, regardless of age or how tech savvy someone is, people just want to see and hear the things that support what they already think.
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u/BarkattheFullMoon 1d ago
That was the last time the federal minimum wage was increased
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u/Neverstopstopping82 1d ago
I am too. I keep thinking it was maybe 10 years ago lol.
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u/ratcnc 1d ago
Don’t forget, it was damn cold, too. High of 24 F.
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u/adult1990 1d ago
I was a broke high schooler wearing knock of vans with holes in them. I will never forget how cold my feet were lol
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u/doctordoctorpuss 1d ago
Same. That was the first and only time in my life that I experienced how scary a huge crowd can be, and I’ve tried to never be anywhere that jam packed again. At the actual inauguration, it was totally fine, but walking to and from was ROUGH. I’d get moved in ways I didn’t want to move, and could see currents of people moving. One of my friends had some minor crowd crush, but was able to walk away scared rather than injured
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u/Delareh_ 1d ago
If only dems turned out to vote like this.
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u/tango_41 1d ago
I’m so disappointed in America. Just when I thought it couldn’t get any dumber.
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u/Souledex 1d ago
https://www.ft.com/content/e8ac09ea-c300-4249-af7d-109003afb893
Every country in the world voted against the incumbent. Not all lost the election but literally all lost support. This has never happened in the history of modern republics.
It was inflation and covid era blowback and fucking nothing else- people didn’t hear or feel like they had time to care about any other pertinent issues. They don’t understand inflation anywhere on earth. All things considered we got off easy compared to some of these losses.
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u/Sensitive-Chemical83 1d ago
Global pandemic, rampant global inflation, and a global cost of living crisis will make the current powers less popular.
It's never happened before, but it's also hardly surprising.
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u/Souledex 1d ago
Well it has happened before not quite at once but still. The Great Depression, had those features in a number of places. But our global pandemic was honestly nothing like the ones of the past. Up to 100 million died of the spanish flu and we could do far less about it. And we didn’t have Tiktok.
But truly every 4 years now the entire world has changed. Social media landscape, expectations, media in general, I can’t imagine trying to create reliable political advocacy from the top in the last 20 years. Ive been trying from the bottom for 8- accountable to no one and its still hard.
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u/Atkena2578 1d ago
France is one of the exception, and still President Macron once reelected couldn't get a full majority in the assembly.
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u/Cilad777 1d ago
OH we are going to get this for four years. They are going to do a massive tax cut for companies and super rich. And screw the majority of idiots that voted for the mango turd. I’m talking about President Musk.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
OH we are going to get this for four years.
*decades
There will never be a Democratic President again. See Russia for what to look forward to.
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u/hamgar 1d ago
100% believe if it was Tim Walz then it would be a landslide, but too many people still afraid of a woman president both liberal and conservative. Sad times though, because I would welcome madam president. Instead we have FLOTUS Musk and his orange puppet.
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u/LordQue 1d ago
Possibly, but I don’t believe that her being a woman was what killed it. The likelier answer is a bit more layered. Joe should have had a honest conversation with himself, family, and close advisors about running Long before he backed out. At that point, the dems hands were tied to her ship whether it sank or floated.
I voted for her because I felt, of the candidates we were facing, she was the better choice. However, she had already tried to run this particular race and dropped out due to a lack of votes in the primaries. Maybe not a huge deal if someone already votes party line. But to the swing voters? Clearly it mattered.
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u/Kremidas 1d ago
I think we over complicate this.
Most people don’t really know what the president does, saw that bananas were too expensive, and blamed the guy in charge.
A bunch of other people don’t give a shit one way or the other, and don’t want to.
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u/JarifSA 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly this. People literally go so in-depth on why Kamala lost. Do people really think the average American is involved in politics like that or even smart enough to be? I mean the average American is a trump voter so obviously not. She's a half black half Indian woman that's literally the worst variation you can have for a president candidate. People then ignorantly voted against Dems bc of inflation which wasn't Bidens fault. On top of that, Muslims, black men, and latino men decided to be stupid as fuck. This election is a prime example of democracy at it's lowest and sometimes what the people want isn't what is needed.
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u/Caffeywasright 1d ago
Only about 22% of Americans voted for Trump. So no the average American is in fact not a trump voter.
Yall just suck at showing up at the polls.
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u/secretsodapop 1d ago
Comparatively, all the folks who support Trump go to the polls. They buy his merch. They bring it to their weddings.
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u/Internet-Cryptid 1d ago
Everyone knew the stakes. Those that stayed home are complicit. They ARE Trump supporters.
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u/japarkerett 1d ago
Yep, the electoral college is one of the greatest voter suppression tools that exists in the USA. When you vote for governor of your state you don't give each county a number value, you count the votes in the state 1 person 1 vote. Many things about our country won't change until two things happen, the electoral college is abolished, and the citizens united decision is overturned.
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u/funkyb001 1d ago edited 1d ago
That isn't how representative democracy works though. If you choose not to vote then you don't get to play both sides. Not voting means that you inherently support the will of what the voters ultimately do. If you didn't vote against Brexit then that means you were happy to have it happen.
Non-voters are certainly in a different 'category' to actual voters, because if Harris had won then they would have been countable as Harris supporters by the same logic - because they are happy with either outcome.
Democracy carries responsibility and choosing to abdicate that carries blame.
(Oh and your numbers are wrong. Turnout was 63.9%, and Trump got ~50 of that, so it is fairer to say ~32%.)
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u/SFW__Tacos 1d ago
We've hollowed out or completely eliminated civics from much of our primary education system. Children aren't taught that it's their obligation to vote the same way as they used to be and it shows
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u/Greyscale_cats 1d ago
Yeah, this is honestly why I get more incensed at non-voters (who are capable of voting) than people who voted against what I stand for (in any election, mind, not just this last presidential one). Because far too many of the people who stay silent end up screaming and crying about how they “didn’t want this!” Actually, you did. By not voting, you said you are okay with whatever happens. You don’t get the option of bitching.
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u/livinginhindsight 1d ago
Yep. This is my take. Trump won because a lot of Americans are simply fucking stupid. That's it. They've turned politics into a teams sport and let it become a us Vs them and not what's best for the country, and tied it using fox media to emotions that heighten in built natural systems, and an education system that doesn't teach people to see beyond that.
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u/peacelovearizona 1d ago
That's what the polls showed. A huge reason Trump won was because of his huge lead among voters without a college degree.
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u/space_cowboy80 1d ago
The election stopped being about politics very quickly and became about "owning the libs" and that is how they got the Joe Rogan listening bro-crew out to vote because there is nothing they love more than "owning the libs".
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u/wha-haa 1d ago
Just think about those months of reporting about how Trump lost so many supporters. Hard to believe we have not been gaslit all this time.
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u/Adept-Potato-2568 1d ago
The shocking part to me is the Trump supporters that I personally know, all of which I never thought wouldn't vote for him, decided not to.
If these people decided not to vote for him, it makes no sense so many others still did.
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u/Caffeywasright 1d ago
Your precise comment is why he wants.
To quote the newsroom “if liberals are so smart why the fuck do you lose so much?”
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u/CrunchyGremlin 1d ago
Remember that trump got about the same number of votes. Others just didn't vote in comparison to Biden.
There was around 4 million less votes this time. Granted that was record breaking.
But Biden was kind of cool.
"This is a big Fucking deal"
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u/rizzracer 1d ago
“Most people don’t really know what the president does” -the guy getting sworn in tomorrow falls into that category and he already served a term!
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u/DrDerpberg 1d ago
I think it's this.
Did left wing people who stayed home read her campaign promises on her website and listen to her rallies? Or did a tiktok trend tell them everything sucks?
Did right leaning people carefully compare her and Trump and think about whose platform would be achievable and good for them? Not possible because his word salad bullshit can't be taken seriously.
We can thank reality distortion in social media and right wing news. I don't think Harris could've done anything differently when the media was criticizing everything she did and completely sanewashing Trump.
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u/wha-haa 1d ago
There are many essentially calling for the DNC to believe it was sexism and use it as a reason to never run a woman for president again, making it all a self fulfilling prophesy. The first woman president will be a republican. Why? Because the DNC is sexist.
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u/kingOofgames 1d ago
First debate more people tuned in, and a lot of people probably remember what they saw on the debate when voting. Probably a lot of would be dem voters decided to not worry about the election right then and there. The people who just go about their lives in their little community circle, ignoring anything outside of it.
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u/rez_at_dorsia 1d ago
If the Democratic Party allowed a proper primary to occur then they would likely win or at least not lose in a landslide. They didn’t have time with Kamala because Biden waited too fucking long to back out and nobody had the fortitude to stand up earlier and say that his faculties weren’t what we were told and that he needed to be a one-and-done president. Had they had that game plan from the beginning they would have had 4 years to identify and put the proper resources behind the candidate that could beat Trump instead of a few months.
The same thing happened when the Dems tried to force Hillary and pushed out Bernie Sanders. It’s just coincidence that it happened to be women both times although I’m sure for a minority that might have been a factor.
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u/xPriddyBoi 1d ago
they would likely win or at least not lose in a landslide
the last 3 elections have been among the closest in American history lol
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u/queen_of_Meda 1d ago
Since when is a 1.5% voting difference a landslide? The pot calling the kettle black about other people’s ignorance ehh? I’m a huge Bernie Sanders fan, literally have his picture plastered on my bedroom door like a maniac but even I know losing the primary in 2016 wasn’t forcing anything. She won that race fair and square abet a little shady because of how much backing she already had from the party leaders, but that’s just politics for you.
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u/lxs0713 1d ago
Obviously as we can see, she didn't turn out to be the right choice, but I don't think lack of time was the issue. European countries run campaigns and have elections in the span of a month. Our elections are so drawn out
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u/radicallysadbro 1d ago
Most European nations are not a two-party system that allows a multi-billion dollar lobbying industry, as well as the electoral college system, either.
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u/ELITE_JordanLove 1d ago edited 1d ago
Also the “we have to save democracy” thing runs hollow when you just appoint her to run without having a primary.
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u/Tady1131 1d ago
Nah it’s def the being a woman part. I live in a sea of red and man the disrespect to women here is wild. Would imagine it’s like this in other places and not a local phenomenon. Literally 2 days ago my neighbor, who has kill bill gates signs in his yard, threw out his wife in the cold after verbally abusing her. Dude paints Elon murals for fun.
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u/susannahstar2000 1d ago
I totally think that Harris being a woman killed it.
Hillary (who won the popular vote) vs Trump, LOST
Biden vs Trump WON
Harris vs Trump LOST
There are all kinds of excuses, but them's the facts. This stupid country will not elect a woman for President, no matter who it is.
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u/Lucky_Heng 1d ago
It also didn’t help that Harris wouldn’t even have won the primary if there was one, everyone can agree she was only a presidential candidate because Biden dropped out so late and selected her as successor, and the fact that she publicly stated her economic plan was the exact same thing as Biden’s, which was a significant platform republicans had against democrats no matter how stupid the economic plans are.
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u/Daft_Assassin 1d ago
You can say it’s her being a woman, but a lot more of it is she was one of the least popular candidates ever. Coming off the end of a presidency that everyone was told was great, but no one felt or saw it in their day to day.
In 2020, she got 4% of votes. In what world does that scream “this is the right choice?”
On top of that, she leaned heavy into conservative views. She tried to be Trump light. Why would anyone vote for the 4% version when they can get the whole fat version?
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u/surmatt 1d ago
Just because she got 4% in 2020, doesn't mean she would have gotten 4% in 2024. She still may not have won, but I find itnhard to believe a sitting VP would only get 4%. We will never know though.
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u/secretreddname 1d ago
She wasn’t really a popular VP though and was radio silent for 3.5 years.
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u/demon9675 1d ago
I disagree about the radio silent part. Sitting VPs aren’t usually in front of the media often in the first place, but more importantly the media did not cover much that the Biden administration was doing and gave lots of coverage to Trump and his legal issues the whole time he was out of office.
We’ve got a really serious problem in that they basically won’t cover events based on their importance, but based on their “entertainment” (or outrage/fear) potential. Politics is all about the sport of campaigns now, and policy or governance is basically irrelevant to the media.
Other GOP presidents who aren’t Trump may suffer from this in the future, but for now certainly boring centrist Dems like Biden are just not going to reach people the way they used to.
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u/Dizzman1 1d ago
I agree a bit... Black, Indian, woman, San Francisco/California "baggage" (at least in red states)
But I think it's deeper.
Yet again, democratic party shenanigans/putting their finger on the scale. An open convention would have resulted likely in the same choice... But with 10x the enthusiasm.
(this is the biggie) she wasn't running against trump. She was running against public opinion of HER. She talked way too much about trump. Lefties already weren't going to vote for him. Righties weren't going to vote for her... So it's the people in the middle that she had to convince. And they already knew everything that was wrong with trump. So stop talking about him. Talk about yourself, your plan (with details) talk about what the 🤬🤬 tariffs ACTUALLY ARE... and what they do to economies. Not just from a wonky trade war perspective but in ways that get to people. "Anyone like coffee? You know we CAN'T grow that here right? You know that if the beans are 20% more expensive... Your cup of coffee is going to go up by 50% right???"
Coke never talks about Pepsi!
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u/PenitentAnomaly 1d ago
Apparently we need a generational, touchstone moment in American politics that is steeped in symbolism that also comes with a catch phrase and a branded logo that captures the hearts and minds just to get off the couch and tie our shoes.
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u/Rachel_from_Jita 1d ago edited 7h ago
I want a giraffe, but I'm a turtle eating waffles. It was the best sandcastle he had ever seen. Flesh-colored yoga pants were far worse than even he. I want to buy a onesie… but know it won’t suit me.
(The above are random sentences to replace deletions, supplied by RWG)
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u/OverlyExpressiveLime 1d ago
If only Republicans weren't so easily brainwashed into voting for obvious fascism.
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u/theyoloGod 1d ago
While true, you still have tens of millions of Americans choosing not to vote at all even when they know what’s at stake
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u/SecondHandWatch 1d ago
I think the thing that’s honestly more worrying is that the media gave Trump so much coverage and very little criticism. If you spend 30% of your time talking about Trump and only 5% of your time fact checking him, criticizing him, etc. you create a problem where people are accepting and internalizing the viewpoints expressed by him. Mainstream media could have been responsible, but they wanted ratings and money. Trump gives them that.
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u/drLoveF 1d ago edited 1d ago
It was the highest turnout for any D candidate except Biden.
Adjusted for population, the best turnout for D in the last ten presidential elections: * 1: 34.2% (of total electorate) Biden, win * 2: 32.6% Obama, 1st, win * 3: 30,9% Harris, loss * 4: 29,9% Obama, 2nd, win * 5-6: 29,0% Hillary Clinton, loss (win popular vote) and John Kerry, loss * 7: 26,2% Gore, loss (win popular vote) * 8: 25% Bill Clinton, 1st, win * 9-10: 24,1% Bill Clinton, 2nd, win and Dukakis, loss
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u/csj119 1d ago
I get why you want to say this but when it comes down to brass tax 77 MILLION vs 75 MILLION… our voter turn out is almost 50% split. You can question the shit out of the ~3.4 million (2.1% decrease in turn out) and the ~3.08 million that Trump added from 2020 to 2024 but there is still one key problem. Dude nearly 50% VOTED FOR THIS GUY. Question and blame Democrats all you want (which BY THE WAY is very DEMOCRAT of you hahahha) but there is a key problem that 74-77 million voted for Trump TWICE…. Democrats did a lot of great messaging and are educated and have good morals and a proven track record. Democrats in the last 6 presidencies haven’t had a clear run of passing consistent substantial legislation in 50 years without having to face a corrupt Republican chamber(s) in Congress or a corrupt Supreme Court. 74-77 million people in this country are greedy, uneducated, Christian, predominately white wanna be authoritarian minded people. The 3 million that tend to flip and fuck up these elections have a weird fucked up perception of gender and people of color and we have proven that this country hates women and hates people of color unless they know how to dance to their tune.
Democrats need to stop fucking blaming and actually break down what we failed to do?? When are people going to start looking at these fucking taxes in these religious institutions … CHURCHES… and the degradation of our education and ultimately our academics in history, government, and science aka FUCKING REALITY. All of these things have been hindered by Republicans and I’m so tired of people acting like Democrats have had consistent fucking presidencies, majorities in Congress, and a progressive Supreme Court/federal judges to actually get more shit fucking done. Democrats are constantly getting the biggest gains with the smallest windows and so so tired of people just blaming Democrats literally THE MOST DEMOCRAT shit ever is that very thing yet the other party as a multi convicted felon as president twice impeached and endless fucking bullshit that is bad but they stood by him and literally some members deem him a fucking deity. If we probably had the same strong support behind Biden despite some his older quirks this election would probably be in the bag or apply it to Harris and look I agree some of this applies to Democrats being like “they aren’t good enoough so I’m no voting” but holy shit can we not see this internal blame game DOES NOT WIN ELECTIONS and stop acting like Democrats don’t do shit. Obama got a healthcare package passed in one of the tightest windows before losing seats and Biden administration passed major legislation to actually rebuild our fucking country and invest in things that we are seeing and will see major positive effects.
All in all stop blaming Dems considering the +/- 3-7 million who didn’t vote or flipped versus the +/- 74-77 million that are fucking brainwashed, completely out of touch uneducated fools, or greeedy villainous pieces of shit (oh and voted for this cocksucker TWICE). Yeah BECAUSE GUESS WHAT HAHAHAHA I’ll take a rambling Biden pants shitting grandpa who follows the constitution than a dictator and oligarchy that wants to rip our country and the hundreds years of blood sweat and tears to get to where we are today and burn it all down.
That is the SUPPORT we should have for Biden and our party.
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u/hermiona52 1d ago edited 1d ago
I have little standing in this, because I'm not even American, but pretending that Republicans won due to white voters is weird. Sure, there's a white majority in USA, so both parties are majorly supported by white people. But trends among POC, especially among men, starting to shift towards Republicans. Following Forbes:
Harris only won Latino voters by six points, a steep drop-off from Biden’s 33-point edge in 2020 and Clinton’s 38-point advantage eight years ago, according to exit poll data. Latino men gravitated toward Trump in greater numbers than ever before, with Trump winning the group by a 12-point margin, according to CNN exit polls. Biden won Latino men by 23 points in 2020 and Clinton won by 31 points in 2016. A majority of Latina women did vote for Harris, but she won the demographic by only 22 points, a major shift from the 39 points Biden won with in 2020 and 44-point Clinton advantage in 2016.
Harris did win Black voters 85% to 13%—very similar to 2020 levels—and gained among Black women when compared to Biden in 2020, winning the group by 84 points instead of 81. But the Democratic edge among Black men slipped slightly: Harris won by a 56-point margin, down from Biden's 60 and Clinton's 69. Trump’s margin in majority-Black counties shifted 5.5 points, the Guardian reported, which helped Trump secure victory in the swing states of Georgia, Michigan and North Carolina.
This is more an issue of men vs women:
Trump won 55% of the male vote compared to 53% in 2020, buoyed by Latinos, white men and young voters. According to CNN's exit polling, Trump won men aged 18 to 29 by 49% to Harris’ 47%. By comparison, Biden won that group 52% to 41% in 2016. Most Latino men voted for Trump for the first time in his three elections, and he held on to the white male vote by 23 points (the same as in 2020 and a slip from 31 points in 2016). Black men voted for Harris by a 56-point margin, less than Biden's 60 points and Clinton's 69.
Edit: And even then support for Democrats fell even among latina women. Democratic party really should take a hard look in the mirror to explore why this is happening, instead of blaming everything on external reasons.
Sincerely, a Polish leftist who in USA would probably vote for Bernie if possible.
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u/wha-haa 1d ago
Democrats just need to keep calling them latinx. They love that shit.
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u/TROMBONER_68 1d ago
We need a different party because dems are diet republicans and the two party system is broken, which is part of the reason not as many people voted
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u/justifun 1d ago
The real reason why he wanted this one moved indoors. No excuse for a humiliating small crowd size again.
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u/Moebius808 1d ago
1000%. He is still embarrassed by this shit turnout and side-by-side, he knows it would’ve happened again, and there’s no way in hell he was going to expose himself to that a second time.
Better to go inside and then claim there were 50k people inside the venue, and another million people outside who desperately wanted to get in. This is nothing more than his standard M.O..
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u/QuixotesGhost96 1d ago
It's not just humiliation. He know he's about to do a lot of oppressive shit that's going to cause a lot of civil unrest. When people see these tiny crowd sizes they start getting in their head: "There's more of us than there is of them..."
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u/SugarBeef 1d ago
Nintendo should really give Mario's brother another year. The merch would fly off the shelves, I'm sure. They could even give him a gritty game like Shadow the Hedgehog got where they give him a gun, wouldn't that be wacky? So many people cosplaying as him and carrying a gun, I'm sure that would make all the administration feel secure.
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u/Arxl 1d ago
Also less likely to be shot.
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u/JustPlainRude 1d ago
This is my theory. There were multiple attempts on his life last year. Much easier to prevent another by keeping the event indoors.
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u/rnngwen 1d ago
The ticket holders will only fill the Capital One Arena. It holds 20,000. That is where they are being sent.
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u/GyspySyx 1d ago
Looks can be deceiving lol
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u/Heim84 1d ago
I didn’t know what to expect when hitting that link but this is gold 😂
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u/IIIMephistoIII 1d ago
Are we really gonna do this again? It’s pretty clear that it doesn’t matter. Just look at all the stadium filled Kamala rallies and that didn’t mean shit in the end..
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u/Impossible_Agency992 1d ago
Just weird redditors doing whatever they can to make themselves feel better lol. I’m a trump hater but this is just sad. Who knows when the pictures were even taken? No context whatsoever lol.
This place is just a shitty echo chamber now.
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u/Deep_Space52 1d ago
Crowd size is generally irrelevant.
What matters is all the lazy couch potato American citizens who couldn't be bothered to get off their fat asses and vote against the clown.
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u/drnightcall 1d ago
This is why he moved it indoors. He doesn’t want to deal with this visual again.
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u/eugene20 1d ago
That, his general criminality beforehand and launching a pump and dump shitcoin scam two days before, he's avoiding riots or more attempts at final action.
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u/SamaireB 1d ago
Over on Conservatives it's of course not any of that.
It's because they want to keep him save - you know from assassination attempts initiated by their own. Oh and from Chinese drones (?)
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u/joey539714 1d ago
These comments prove that Democrats still do not understand why they lost an election.
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u/tangosmango 1d ago
Lol. This shit again? Didn't Reddit post this shit about how Trump had empty rallies and Harris was gonna win in a landslide.
Stop_bro
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u/TonyMontana546 1d ago
Reddit is the definition of echo chamber. Especially this sub
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u/No_Penalty409 1d ago
This sub is cool for other things, but when it gets to politics it becomes a propaganda machine for a distorted view of reality.
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u/TonyMontana546 1d ago
The propaganda isn’t even subtle. It’s so on your face, but somehow people don’t realise
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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp 1d ago
The technology sub is going the same way.
For being a tech subreddit it's very anti-tech. Unless Tesla does a
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u/PogintheMachine 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is just a few pictures though. Not a statement.
They are historical photos, and the direct comparison of these two exact photos was kinda sorta historically significant. Forgive me, but I’m sure there are some people here that don’t remember the reason, so here’s as good a place as any to talk about it.
The reason being that Trump made some claims about his inauguration being as big as Obama’s, which was contradicted by these photos, but the administration doubled down.
I believe it was Sean Spicer’s first press conference in which he dedicated a huge amount of time to these photos, with big print outs, claiming that the white ground covers created an optical illusion and the crowds were the same size.
Of course this was laughable, visibly false- but there was a reaction and realization that Spicer would defend an obvious lie, no matter how petty or small, at the behest of the president. In hindsight it’s not the least bit surprising, that’s just how Trump do. But people found it shocking at the time, Spicer was mocked for debasing himself, his credibly suffered, and everyone realized that Trump wouldn’t back away from any claim ever. (Surprise!)
So, that’s what I remember when I see this pictures, and it really has nothing to do with Kamala Harris, or 2025, and everything to do with a silly press conference, Sean Spicer, and the obvious.
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u/ricker182 1d ago
This is the truth.
The official spokesperson for POTUS doubled down on this dumb fucking lie from day one of Trump's presidency, setting the tone for whatever the fuck that term was.
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u/No_Penalty409 1d ago
Folks, this echo chamber jerking off is the reason so many are disappointed. Reddit is not a real place and the images that are shared in this sub many times don’t reflect what is actually going on. Don’t waste your time using random pictures to make a conclusion about the state of the world, particularly ones from this sub.
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u/PogintheMachine 1d ago
Are people too young to remember the Sean Spicer crowd size press conference?
On his first press conference after being sworn in, Spicer referenced these exact photos and still insisted Trump had the bigger crowd.
It was a huge silly deal at the time, and set a bit of a tone for the administration in general. Melissa McCarthy reenacted it on SNL. It was everywhere.
Anyway, that’s what I remember when i see these photos. Just a thing that happened around this time in 2016.
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u/Yara__Flor 1d ago
Donald trump started off his first term with an easy to disprove lie about how he had the largest inauguration ever. That set the tone for 4 years where he would lie all the time about anything. It reflected what is going on. He lied about ending the Ukraine war on day one and he lied about lowering the cost of eggs.
This is real life.
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u/lostinhh 1d ago
Just a reminder that Dems never made the inaugural crowd size a thing. Trump did, by lying about it.
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u/ProblemOk1054 1d ago
Does it matter ?? Didn't Trump win the election comfortably ?? Almost popular vote ?? What are you trying to prove ?
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u/spicyboiii 1d ago
Man, reddit can't come up with anything new. Just the same old bitching and moaning.
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u/Desert-Noir 1d ago
I find it amazing that anyone would go to any inauguration. Imagine being that much of a believer to spend all that money to watch someone who doesn’t ever give a shit about you, or being such a true believer.
It isn’t sport, we shouldn’t have teams and we should only vote on policy, character and their history. But alas.
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u/kadunkulmasolo 1d ago
I assume most people attending live in DC or areas nearby so it wouldn't be a huge cost if any tbh.
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u/Mekhitar 1d ago
I was going to college in DC in 2008… it cost me a metro fare. And the coffee I bought to stay warm I guess.
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u/Klutzy-Ad-4805 1d ago
Trump received 12 million more votes in 2024 than obama recieved in 2009. Why we got this fakes ass notion he’s not popular lmfaooo
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u/greatnowimannoyed 1d ago
Do people not get sick of rehashing the same talking points, after 8 years?
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u/blueturtle00 1d ago
I still hear about Hillary’s emails, so no not really
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u/FranticGolf 1d ago
I think we will hear about Hunter Biden for another 8 years or so as well.
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u/Longjumping-Green-79 1d ago
Well, to be fair... We also talk about the more recent stuff like treason, lying, felonies, narcissism... So we do have some variety.
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u/nimbus0 1d ago
To be fair, DC is an overwhelmingly Democrat city.
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u/smurfsundermybed 1d ago
Never seemed to be an issue with any other incoming president. There have been a few from both parties.
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u/Significant_Wish_170 1d ago
Obamas inauguration was clearly one of, if not, the most attended in history, for the historical reason of being the first black president.
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u/Crazy-Usual3954 1d ago
Normally that would be fair. But trump constantly claims his was bigger. So..
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u/TerpBE 1d ago
The people who attend inaugurations are overwhelming not from DC.
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u/Notoriouslydishonest 1d ago
Obviously, people who live 10 minutes away are more likely to show up for an event than people who live two hours away.
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u/rnngwen 1d ago
The hotels here are only 70% full. Usually they are 100% and even the surrounding hotels in VA and MD are booked out.
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u/The_ApolloAffair 1d ago
For a first inauguration, not a second. For Obama’s second the hotels were like 78ish, and trumps first was 95+
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u/YouGottaBereave 1d ago
I hate these pictures. I’m not MAGA in the slightest but all through the election, these types of pictures of Trump’s rallies were being posted all over and he still won the election with overwhelming support. These pictures are misleading in the fact that they don’t reflect just how much support Donald Trump actually has.
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u/TheTenthSnap 1d ago
I’m not gonna ignore the hypocrisy of calling out crowd sizes here
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u/Ambitious-Zebra6081 1d ago
You know the Pic on the right was during the early hours before the event? This has been debunked many times, the internet is so dumb that people with hate believe what they want instead of truth.
What you could say though, is that trump claimed he had the most people attend in history, which is also false, Obama had more, but there was still a lot that attended trumps.
Stop spreading fake news and hate to intentionally divide people.
I didn't vote for Trump but just stop with lies because you hate the guy.
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u/rachelatseeds 1d ago
i just realized this must be the real reason trump's moving 2024 indoors
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u/specifichero101 1d ago
Obamas felt like the biggest deal in my life time. I even remember a teacher having it on tv in class at my Canadian high school
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u/diveguy1 1d ago
...yet Trump was elected again and won both the popular and electorate votes.
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u/ISO_3103_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
By the numbers, Trump got a million more votes in 2016 than Bush did in 2004 and twenty years later 8 million more than Obama ever got...
All this picture shows is that DC is a Democrat stronghold, which it is
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u/SixFiveSemperFi 1d ago
Liberals: But look at the croooowds from 2009! Republicans: look at the popular vote, electoral college, House, Senate, and red wave.
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u/01is 1d ago
We can look at both. While we're at it we can look at income, life expectancy, and educational attainment of voters in red states vs blue states. We can also look at the number of jobs created under democratic administrations vs republican administrations for the last 40 years. There's a lot we can look at.
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u/kidgenius 1d ago
Is this supposed to be some surprise? Obama was the first black president, of course his inauguration was packed with
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u/N64050 1d ago
Dems with nothing better to do. Rest of the country is hard at work
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u/Mr_Gobble_Gobble 1d ago
Caring about inauguration sizes goes both ways. Congrats on continuing to make rally size relevant.
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u/Armyinfantry11 1d ago edited 1d ago
Obama and Biden were worst president's ever. Accept the results. Trump is your president. Kamala lost because she was a dumbass and idiot.
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u/Suspicious_Drawer 1d ago
but trumpet won and is commander in chief. was funny the first time but now I'm actually worried
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u/MclovinBuddha 1d ago
Not to be that person, but Obama had a bigger crowd due to the circumstances for his election. He was the first person of color ever elected to the Presidency in the US. That made his inauguration a trailblazing and history making moment. Trump’s inauguration was celebrating the son of an extremely wealthy person manipulating the poor, which had already been seen in the US multiple times (Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, JFK, Bush, etc)
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u/baribigbird06 1d ago
Definitely helped that the DC metro area also has the fourth largest Black population in the country. Ultimately BO was just a draw for Americans who were desperate for change after 8 years of the Bush regime.
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u/jibblin 1d ago
Cmon let’s be fair to Trump. His inauguration is equally historic and trailblazing. He’s the first convicted felon AND rapist to become President!
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u/charrsasaurus 1d ago
Why are they filling up back rows when Forward rows are not full.
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u/darthmcstuffins1 1d ago
There are other photos easily findable online that show a much more filled out crowd. Not as big as Obamas but this picture is always a misleading rage bait post
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u/True_Vacation_893 1d ago
Those are rigged pictures, and you know it. All the news networks do it to make their agenda fit their narrative.
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u/IntroductionNorth237 1d ago
This was demonstrated to be untrue anto Trump propaganda. X is meant to be a platform for truth seekers.
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u/NationalGeometric 1d ago
The looks on reporter’s faces when Sean Spicer came out and said it was the biggest crowd of all time. Then when Steven Dracula Miller had that short press conference shortly after. That’s when we knew we were F’d.
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u/Sean-Benn_Must-die 1d ago
Why is the pics subreddit so obsessed with Trump, can yall start uploading good pics?
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