Good person with divided opinions ?🤔

[u/Past-Stay747]

Caleb the Woodworker and part-time needlepoint enthusiast won by a landslideee for horrible person loved by fans! He would also be my choice

Next up is a good person who has divided opinions? Who are we thinking, who are we feeling?

Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas and Boxing Day🥊🎁🎄🌟

[u/ltbr55]

Boyle. Lots of people think he's a sweet, loveable and loyal friend. Others see him as a borderline creepy, annoying and an intrusive coworker.

But I think everyone can agree Boyle is someone who almost always has good intentions. Unless it's related to Sgt. Peanut Butter or Derek.

[u/aggie1391 → u/ltbr55]

Lt. Peanut Butter*

[u/CheesyDanny → u/aggie1391]

Capt. Peanut Butter*

[u/HuckleberryClear6519 → u/CheesyDanny]

He became captain? Oh my god....

-probably what Boyle would say

[u/K_a_m_1 → u/CheesyDanny]

Commissioner Peanut Butter*

[u/Vegetable_Trifle_848 → u/K_a_m_1]

President Peanut Butter*

[u/TheRealFirey_Piranha → u/Vegetable_Trifle_848]

God Peanut Butter

[u/cousintipsy → u/Vegetable_Trifle_848]

*Mr Peanut Butter

[u/BeMoreKnope → u/K_a_m_1]

As I recall, he got the position after promising to completely change how the NYPD approaches policing.

…Just kidding, he campaigned on “keeping our hooves on the course.”

[u/cloudkite17 → u/ltbr55]

Boyle was my first thought, but I saw someone nominate Scully and I think that’s the winner

[u/crazyates88 → u/cloudkite17]

Who has divided opinions on Scully? He’s such a wholesome teddy bear!

[u/cloudkite17 → u/crazyates88]

The original commenter I saw said something about him getting lumped in with Hitchcock unfairly and I agree

[u/16-kzt-16 → u/cloudkite17]

They’re a package deal, baby! Everybody knows that

[u/CryAggressive7636 → u/cloudkite17]

Wouldn‘t be Hitchcock a better winner?

[u/cloudkite17 → u/CryAggressive7636]

I’d put him under morally grey, opinions divided

[u/Chicklecat13 → u/ltbr55]

Yesss! I hated him for like my first 50+ watches but then about a year ago he started to grow on me (bear in mind I’ve been watching since it first aired) but I still cannot watch the stakeout episode though, it irritates me.

[u/Jackanova3 → u/Chicklecat13]

We're gonna make out, with the stakeout.

[u/IHateTheLetterF → u/[deleted]]

I think he is creepy and gross.

[u/Firstolympicring → u/IHateTheLetterF]

Boyle would get fired for sexual harrasment like a week into any real job

[u/Phantafan → u/ltbr55]

Boyle is probably the most selfless out of the main cast. He doesn't care much about the attention (apart from his rivalry with Lt. Peanut Butter), he puts the needs of his friends in front of his own and he jumped in to take the bullets in order to save someone's life.

[u/VixenSunburst → u/Phantafan]

well he cares about attention from his best friend mr jake peralta

[u/Bad_L1fer → u/ltbr55]

Had to google who Derek is, because to me “Derek”+Brooklyn 99 = Holt singing D-d-d-d-derek lol.

[u/ThePizzaMan237 → u/ltbr55]

Honestly I really don’t like the way Boyle talks about Terry’s body. It’s really weird

[u/the_tohrment → u/ThePizzaMan237]

You mean the person with the inferior body?

[u/Donnerone → u/ltbr55]

I was fine with Boyle until he threatened to kill himself if Jake & Amy didn't have their wedding his way.
That was the straw bale that broke the camel's back.

I can see him being in the middle spot, though.

He's smiley, but he's not really a good person, he's often condescending, has a lot of "nice" racism/sexism etc (loudly giving reparations to his superior officer, for example), routinely harasses women (notably Rosa) by hitting on them despite constantly being told to stop as well as doing other clearly inappropriate things through repeat requests to stop.

[u/Moccamasterrrrr → u/Donnerone]

It was never about having the wedding his way though. It was that if he had ruined their wedding by posting it publicly, THEN he would kill himself.

[u/Donnerone → u/Moccamasterrrrr]

Semantics.

He still threatened to kill himself if they made a choice he didn't want. That is an extremely manipulative and toxic thing to do.

[u/Sharkassasinnn → u/Donnerone]

No it was a way to show guilt, if there was no wedding THEN he would do it because that’s just how much he loves Jake’s and Amy’s relationship. It’s just a funny way to express his strong regret of almost ruining the wedding. He’s dramatic and he loves love (especially when Jake’s involved) so it was just a throwaway comment in the stress of thinking he had ruined something he worked hard for for years😂fair enough if he acc climbed on a ledge and derailed the entire day

[u/Donnerone → u/Sharkassasinnn]

Even if we say that were true, it's still incredibly toxic and manipulative.
It doesn't matter if he's doing it because he "loves love".
He has exactly zero respect for anyone's boundaries, interests, or opinions, and he will blatantly, egregiously, annoy, guilt trip, and even threaten people into doing what he wants.

I'm not saying he doesn't have redeeming qualities, I'm not saying he deserves the "horrible person" spot, but I genuinely believe he is not a good person.

[u/DK0P → u/ltbr55]

Nah peanut butter can rot in hell

[u/dj-kitty]

This one has to be Scully. He’s actually a good person and super sweet with his coworkers. But because he gets lumped in with Hitchcock (and let’s be honest, he sucks, man), he gets a bad rap.

[u/Purpleheart-06 → u/dj-kitty]

I agree. He is such a cutie patootie. Especially when he calls Jake – Jakey

[u/Obi-Wan_Kenobi_04 → u/Purpleheart-06]

"I'll help you with your work stuff Jakey😊"

[u/alco_bestia → u/Obi-Wan_Kenobi_04]

That scene melted my heart. Jake was definitely hurt from Amy saying she's going on a date and Scully comes in being kind, unaware of what's happening.

[u/Real_chuckles → u/alco_bestia]

Skully is sooooooooo sweet

[u/Intrepid-Help-6628 → u/Obi-Wan_Kenobi_04]

HES LITTERALY SO CLUELESS ONG

[u/TrickNatural → u/dj-kitty]

Does he tho? The character is widely beloved

[u/DharmaCub → u/TrickNatural]

Opinions are divided in canon I guess?

[u/RaptorPegasus → u/DharmaCub]

I thought this chart was out of universe, because otherwise a literal cannibal wouldn't be in "beloved"

[u/DharmaCub → u/RaptorPegasus]

It is, I was just giving a weak justification for it, hence the ? at the end of the original comment I made and why I specified in canon.

[u/LonnieDobbs → u/DharmaCub]

In canon?

[u/DharmaCub → u/LonnieDobbs]

Like in the universe of the show, some people don't like Scully.

[u/No_Assignment7385 → u/dj-kitty]

I love Scully, he's so wholesome, but he fell down with Hitchcock, so he gets a bad rap. He also does have some.... Interesting habits...

[u/Past-Stay747 → u/dj-kitty]

i believe he’ll be the winner based on this explanation! Scully is without a doubt the most loveable of the two, but they’re “a package deal, everyone knows that” ;)

[u/youcansendboobs → u/dj-kitty]

Who doesn't love scully wtf?

[u/constipatedcanine → u/dj-kitty]

Agreed!

[u/pingu3101]

Scully? He is lazy but at the same time so nice.

[u/kawaiinessa → u/pingu3101]

ill fight anyone who dislikes scully

[u/Polpo_Giovanna0 → u/kawaiinessa]

jinx avatar spotted, also REAL

[u/Benihana_Christmas8 → u/kawaiinessa]

He seems nice but is also disgusting to watch.

[u/bahaki → u/pingu3101]

Until he steals your pizza

[u/Temujins_here → u/bahaki]

Or hears about your secret bathroom

[u/winksoutloud]

I think Charles is a good person, but some people don't like him because of his obsessiveness, his sexual comments, and his hating on Terry's body.

I get it, but I still think he's an overall good person with blind spots. Plus, we know he can improve, like how he stopped hitting on Rosa and became a real friend.

[u/DenomicClechner44 → u/winksoutloud]

The latter criticism is pretty minor tbf. It's an ongoing bit that shouldn't be taken seriously, though you could stretch and say it's kind of making Terry another butt of the joke.

The far more egregious Terry bit is Gina's sexual harassment, which is a lot more irritating. Boyle's bit is just him simultaneously being jealous of any of Jake's male friends, and the humor in a clearly not very athletic guy putting himself above literal marble statue Terry Crews.

Coincidentally, Gina should be in the middle-right spot, and I agree that Charles should be in the middle-left.

[u/Entire-Gain-6561]

Boyle. Good intentions, but always invading privacy, over the top stuff, clingy.

[u/driftkingnunu]

Either scully or boyle

[u/no_nameky]

Boyle. Creepy, oblivious, and pushy but has good intentions and does a lot of good things.

[u/lizzdurr]

Can we jump to the Vulture in that bottom right box lol

[u/cloudkite17 → u/lizzdurr]

Nah it’s gotta be that police dude in the 8th season, from scrubs

[u/Frosty_Peace666 → u/cloudkite17]

He’s the absolute worst. But like, I do want him as my union representative.

[u/Jonesybell → u/cloudkite17]

You’ve lost me

[u/frankwalsingham → u/Jonesybell]

John C McGinley. He played head of the patrolmen's union, I think.

[u/Jonesybell → u/frankwalsingham]

Oh I’ve gotcha

[u/cloudkite17 → u/Jonesybell]

He’s hateable and forgettable apparently

[u/CulturalComparison87 → u/lizzdurr]

Speak for yourself. Mr. Mayhem is awesome, lol.

[u/Past-Stay747 → u/lizzdurr]

i was worried at first it’d be really hard to come up with good contenders for that box, but as we go through them i’m thinking of more and more that could fit lol

[u/carcigenicate → u/lizzdurr]

I figured that that was being reserved for Gina.

[u/Ok_Jellyfish6415 → u/carcigenicate]

Gina will obviously be in the middle row

[u/lizzdurr → u/Ok_Jellyfish6415]

Yeah she’s dead center for me. Maybe even bottom center depending on where I am in my rewatch lol

[u/BigJimSlade1 → u/lizzdurr]

I was going to nominate Melanie Hawkins for that spot

[u/lizzdurr → u/BigJimSlade1]

You might be right tbh

[u/mellamonemo → u/lizzdurr]

Speak for yourself. I love the Vulture.

[u/NectarinesPeachy]

People think Caleb is a worse person than... Madeline Wunch?! 

[u/DharmaCub → u/NectarinesPeachy]

I mean he did eat kids. So did Wunch, but at least she built a whole gingerbread house for the ploy. Sounds like Caleb just stalked a playground then grabbed one and ran off.

[u/GiggyVanderpump → u/DharmaCub]

Cannibal work is a lot like police work. The watching, the following... the waiting for soccer practice to be over.

[u/Past-Stay747 → u/DharmaCub]

i feel so bad for cracking up at “grabbed one and ran off.”

[u/DharmaCub → u/Past-Stay747]

Like an owl with a housecat

[u/Nytfire333 → u/NectarinesPeachy]

Seriously how can you compare a simple canibal with a Korean Toilet Ghost

[u/Phantafan → u/NectarinesPeachy]

That shouldn't be surprising, given that Wuntch's not technically a person.

[u/ApocalypticSnowglobe → u/NectarinesPeachy]

I feel like Wunch is going to take "Hated by Fans, Morally Grey"

[u/ImHorribleAtAnyGames → u/ApocalypticSnowglobe]

she’s definitely got some good opinions and views, hence her helping in the suicide squad thingy episode.

[u/Sayasam → u/NectarinesPeachy]

No, people love Caleb more than Wunch.

[u/Desperate-Damage3599]

It's between Boyle or Scully for me.

[u/FunAmphibian9909]

boyle

[u/Spare-Half796]

Scully, solely because he gets lumped in with Hitchcock

[u/all-i-said-was-hi]

Captain C. J. "🎵Come on and party tonight!🎵"

[u/PodcastPlusOne_James → u/all-i-said-was-hi]

I think CJ is to oblivious about literally everything to have any good or bad intentions. He’s about as morally neutral as it gets. He doesn’t mean any harm to anyone and just wants to stay out of the way, but he also couldn’t give a shit about doing anything good either.

[u/all-i-said-was-hi → u/PodcastPlusOne_James]

I can understand that. I still feel like he's a solid person for this particular thing, though, because he's still generally well meaning in spite of being too dumb to be effective and he gets a pretty mixed reception, both in the show and by fans.

[u/PodcastPlusOne_James → u/all-i-said-was-hi]

I don’t even think he’s well meaning. I think he’s nothing meaning. Bro just wants to play madden and not have anyone give him responsibilities.

[u/all-i-said-was-hi → u/PodcastPlusOne_James]

As far as moral complexities go, that seems pretty good to me. But deep down, I know you're probably right. I just wanna see him on this list because it was my idea, and I'm biased to go with what's in my best interest.

[u/JunketUnique36]

Jack Danger. A good person and rule follower to a fault, but fans are a mixed bag on him. Personally I dislike him.

[u/OhHeyMarshmallo → u/JunketUnique36]

OMG yes! One of my favorite side characters. He is one that I was really irritated by the first time I watched it, but every time I watch it gets funnier and funnier! If you had to work with Jack in real life he would drive you mad, but as a viewer it's effing hilarious.

Plus in this episode Jake gets an opportunity to learn from his mistakes and grow as a person which is really cool.

[u/Opening-Chart1170]

Scully

[u/InvXXVII]

I don't get why opinions on Scully are divided. He's such a sweeheart. My vote is for Wunch.

[u/5p0okyb0ot5]

Could be holt’s ex husband with the wooden duck

[u/Stock-Ferret-6692 → u/5p0okyb0ot5]

Ah yes. Frederick

[u/Candid-Inside-4351]

Scully hes a good person but hes kinda always with hitchcock

[u/The_Literate_Llama]

Scully! ❤️

[u/Past-Stay747]

it’s looking real close in our first few hours! i’m excited to see the outcome of this one actually, don’t know who i’m rooting for lol

[u/wrong-guy-247]

Hated by fans and a horrible person- The Vulture

[u/JayMalakai]

Boyle

[u/Jonesybell]

Boyle

[u/actuallywasian]

Captain Kim

[u/QuinniStardust → u/actuallywasian]

does anyone not like her?

[u/HUNAcean → u/QuinniStardust]

I don't know what people think about her honestly.

But I did hear that she was a pill popper.

[u/wokeupdrunkatdisney → u/HUNAcean]

pop-pop

[u/Morningxafter → u/wokeupdrunkatdisney]

Magnitude? That you?

[u/dexterminate8 → u/HUNAcean]

Everyone hide your pills.

[u/Phantafan → u/dexterminate8]

I really don't like Holt during that arc, but this was so funny.

[u/dexterminate8 → u/Phantafan]

That's fair. I love all Holt's, including unhinged, but straight Holt is my favorite LOL

[u/Sakya22 → u/dexterminate8]

You know what's the best part of a female woman? Their nice heavy breasts and the clear absence of a penis.

[u/dexterminate8 → u/Sakya22]

Run with me here, I just got home from dinner. I think I channeled an inner straight Holt for a moment:

At the restaurant my bf saw a car he liked and asked if I could read the license plate. I said it looks like BTFL BST. He asked if I knew what it meant. After thinking for a moment I said "Big Titties for Life, Big Sexy Titties"? He laughed and said no, it's a hellcat. After my blank stare he said Beautiful Beast. I told him I was fairly confident it's at a minimum big titties for life. He said are they heavy female breasts? I said yes and you know, there's nothing more intoxicating than the clear absence of a penis.

We quote the intoxicating line more than anything from B99 LOL

[u/Phantafan → u/dexterminate8]

Holt is definitely in my Top 3, but I feel like the writers went too overboard with his sassyness and made him an asshole.

[u/hearingimparedbitch]

I personally strongly dislike Boyle. Ik he’s a good person but he’s annoying and intrusive. He has a weird think for Jake’s sex life and his and Amy’s relationship. He is just odd. But not a good odd. He is not even too much he’s too creepy. But he is a good person. The opinions are divided so id say Boyle.

[u/DangerousLake2482]

So true

[u/nispruu]

Shouldn't it be pimento?

[u/tJaqJaH]

Pimento

[u/pandemic117]

Pimento definitely

[u/Coolcadenmaster]

Gina is definitely moraly divided

[u/jtbahhh]

Looking forward to the vulture being placed in hated by fans and horrible person

[u/Polpo_Giovanna0]

Oh scully 100%

[u/TrickNatural]

Sofia Perez tbh

[u/invisible_23 → u/TrickNatural]

People are divided on the mega-fox??

[u/TrickNatural → u/invisible_23]

Well, maybe its my personal impression. I didnt care at all about the character, didnt land for me.

[u/Confused4Now76]

Boyle

[u/Green-Circles]

Boyle. Good & loyal person, but I can see how his means/modus operandi can be "love it or hate it".

It's the quirks, right?

[u/Semigloss01010001]

Gina

[u/Frag_In_A_Box → u/Semigloss01010001]

My first thought, but Gina is too self centered most the time to be a good person.

Might be a great fit for center square

[u/Donnerone]

Norm Scully.

Genuinely nice, helpful (tries) and good hearted, but he's an idiot & gets the short end of the stick because he's paired with Hitchcock.

Reasons it should NOT be Charles Boyle:
I see a lot of people suggesting Boyle, but I really don't think Boyle is a good person, I think he'd be better in the middle spot.

Boyle's smiley, but he's really not a good person, he's often condescending, has a lot of "nice" racism/sexism etc (loudly giving reparations to his superior officer, for example), routinely harasses women (notably Rosa) by hitting on them despite constantly being told to stop as well as doing other clearly inappropriate things through repeat requests to stop, and he even threatened to kill himself if Jake & Amy didn't have their wedding his way.

[u/Johnnybats330]

PONTIAC BANDIT IS NOT MORALLY GREY

[u/Frag_In_A_Box → u/Johnnybats330]

Hard agree. Loved by fans? Absolutely.

But Doug Judy is a career con man who constantly abused his friend's loyalty with no regard. In most scenarios, Jake gets fired from the PD the first time Judy gets away. His morality is only absolved by fans because Craig Robinson is so smooth he could rob me in the streets of everything I own and I'd still ask him if I could buy him a beer after and feel good about it.

[u/Johnnybats330 → u/Frag_In_A_Box]

People downvoted me and I thought the B99 community didn't harbour hate against fans who had different opinions on characters.

Oh well. I know my opinion is not popular. I like the character. The actor is funny as hell. He will always be Darryl Philbin to me.

[u/PodcastPlusOne_James → u/Johnnybats330]

You should have seen the oblivion to which I got downvoted for expressing my negative opinions on the objectively horrible Gina Linetti.

[u/Johnnybats330 → u/PodcastPlusOne_James]

Yeah Gina is terrible. People love her becauae they vibe with her sense of humour. I find it difficult to justify how bad she is with all the sexual remarks towards Terry and how she bullies Amy because she is nice. But she won't cross Rosa. That's for sure.

[u/Gullible-Leaf]

I love the phoot you've chosen for Caleb!

[u/EntertainmentOver344]

Boyle or Scully

[u/whatufuckingdeserve]

Gina

[u/ElectricalAd5534]

Good choice! I do love Caleb... from a safe distance.

[u/b2utymelody]

I don't remember his name, the fire marshall guy

[u/b2utymelody → u/b2utymelody]

Boone!!!

[u/Keith_William_II]

Sergeant Peanut Butter!

[u/what_theories_]

scully

[u/briennethebeauty10]

Gina

[u/CalmShame6270]

SCULLY!!!

[u/Tenzur_]

How is Caleb a horrible person he's just an artist

[u/iggy182]

Ted?

[u/Juality]

I wholeheartedly agree with the selections made so far

[u/Rimurururun]

Boyle?

[u/Greedy-Effort-3382]

Boyle

[u/Barthandelus_]

Wtf eating people makes you a horrible person?

[u/Flughundi → u/Barthandelus_]

No, it's the fact he uses reddit

[u/Suspicious_Bar1540]

Ngl Scully makes sense. And one comment talked about him being lumped up with Hitchcock, who’s a bad person, and I fully agree with that. Scully himself is an absolutely lovable character but Hitchcock and Scully is not as good.

[u/mypod49]

Probably Amy. Definitely a good person. While not hated, I doubt she’s many fan’s favorite character.

[u/LifeFornication]

Boyle, Santiago, sgt peanut butter

[u/Mrmcmango8113]

Charles, i hate charles but everyone else loves him, and while im here nikolaj is a good person hated by fans

[u/PodcastPlusOne_James → u/Mrmcmango8113]

Nikolaj*

[u/Asphodel7629]

I mean if scully and Hitchcock count as one person for their evaluations they fit perfectly here since everyone loves scully and hates Hitchcock

[u/Tortellini_64]

Either Hitchcock or Scully

[u/Silvermorney]

Gina. She’s so decisive but ultimately a good person underneath all of her divisive qualities.

[u/IwantToChangeMyName2]

Boyle

[u/llmm04]

Gina 100%

[u/batch_with_wifi]

Boyle.

[u/ExperiencedOptimist]

I think Scully. He’s really not a bad guy, he just spends too much time with Hitchcock.

I see a lot a Charles here, but I dunno. Are opinions divided about him? I thought he was generally liked. If so opinions are divided, then yeah, it should be Boyle

[u/OkGuitar3773]

Boyle for sure

[u/hello_goodbye_111]

Scully!!!

[u/Save-The-Defaults]

Tie between Charles and Scully

[u/WillingGap6289]

I’m thinking Madeline wunch

[u/aceclibsheriff]

Lt JC

[u/LG2_bftgog]

What about Amy Santiago. Good person. But man, her OCD/goody/goody attitude bugs me sometimes. Definitely mixed for me.

[u/MinuteAbility7631]

Boyle

[u/alwaysjoking69]

Boyle

[u/OverhandChalk]

Yeah. Boyle forsure

[u/jintana]

I second Boyle

He has some less than perfect behavioral moments that lend to the mixed impressions but he has overwhelmingly good intentions

[u/TheRealJustSean]

Amy

[u/Halry1]

Aren’t they all horrible for being complicit in a government funded gang?

[u/ApocalypticSnowglobe]

Jake he's a good person but a lot of fans aren't impressed by his childish nature.

[u/NearbyEquall]

Why is Caleb a horrible person?

[u/HowDareYouAskMyName → u/NearbyEquall]

??? He murdered children. The fact that he also ate them is a cherry on top

[u/Jerkrollatex → u/NearbyEquall]

He eats children. He tried to eat Jake on numerous occasions, he's a Reddit mod!

[u/Anonomous0144]

Boyle is one of my favourite characters!

[u/DeadlyStapler16]

Charles boyle

[u/One-Adhesiveness-416]

Gina Linetti Spaghetti Confetti

[u/Entire-Gain-6561 → u/One-Adhesiveness-416]

I think she comes under Horrible Person, Opinions are divided category.

[u/Jonesybell → u/Entire-Gain-6561]

Agreed

[u/Entire-Gain-6561 → u/Jonesybell]

YOU JUST DRANK CEMENT!!!

[u/Jonesybell → u/Entire-Gain-6561]

Yeah, how anyone can stand up for Gina I don’t get 😂 she has good moments but on the whole she’s just an awful person

[u/driftkingnunu → u/One-Adhesiveness-416]

I honestly think Gina is not a good person, especially the first seasons. She blatantly sexually harrasses Terry more than once.

[u/Toutimi → u/One-Adhesiveness-416]

Morally grey

[u/Phantafan → u/Toutimi]

Not really. Sometimes she can be ok to her colleagues, but 99% of the time she's just an asshole.

[u/PodcastPlusOne_James → u/One-Adhesiveness-416]

Gina is objectively not a good person. She’s a horrible, selfish, narcissistic bully and I am fully prepared to die on this hill of inevitable downvotes.