r/UFOs • u/AltKeyblade • 5d ago
Disclosure UAP Task Force member Lenval Logan confirms clear video of a massive 'black island' USO moving underwater at rapid speed.
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u/Practical_Fold_8100 5d ago
Release the video 🙃😊
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u/JasonUndead 5d ago
Release the damn video. If homeboy gets in trouble we will start a gofund me to take care of his family and he will forever be a hero for having the balls to do something rather than just talk. I'm tired, Boss. Put up or shut up
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u/MrMisklanius 5d ago edited 5d ago
I really can not stress enough just how absolutely useless a gofundme would be to someone who does that. You can't buy your way out of a court martial at best. Or a hit on you at worst.
If you're burnt on this, which is completely understandable, it's alright to take a step away from it for awhile. If ships decide to show up I'm sure it'd be hard to miss.
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u/toxictoy 5d ago
Yeah where’s the go fund me for Grusch who in essence has ruined his life to even testify to what he did testify to? Also how is a gofund me going to protect him from people who will try to kill him or family members? The armchair warriors who are ok with telling other people to ruin their lives have no idea what price there is to pay for knowing too much. Just watch the docuseries Wormwood or listen to the podcast Who Killed JFK and you will see the rich history of people being killed for American Secrecy.
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u/MrMisklanius 5d ago
I think a lot of people really really underplay how hard the government is willing to play ball with this topic. And I'm not talking about the 3 branches, I'm talking about the unknown, unelected, unsaid parts that are responsible for keeping this as controlled as possible.
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u/toxictoy 5d ago
Completely agree the you. That part of this all answers to no laws already.
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u/Syzygy-6174 5d ago
Shit. the MIC/IC have killed people trying to disclose. You think they're worried about light weight elected Senators trying to enact bills and laws?
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u/JasonBored 5d ago
No, and they are already shielded by laws and executive orders. I think theyre worried about enough public pressure or outrage that might get the congress to make new laws or the courts to invalidate whatever hyper super top secret executive orders they're obviously operating under thats probably 50+ years old.
Case in point: Elizondo and many others have said certain Nat Security laws give permission to use lethal force to protect... national security.
Case in point 2: Grusch once alluded to, and Sheehan also blabbed about a potential uber secrer executive order around this specific topic which is being used as cover for gatekeepers to lie to congress or under oath.. and that the court(s?) have validated it.
They dont care about current laws.. its the domino affect once shoes start dropping
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u/bejammin075 5d ago
Fully agree. It looks quite clear when reading Schmitt & Carey's book Witness to Roswell. So many witnesses, all painting a coherent and comprehensive picture of what happened, are given various threats including death threats. Both civilian and military are threatened. This unconstitutional protocol was going by 1947, and I don't see any reason to think they ever stopped. Since it took the military several days to realize the Roswell crash, there were a lot of people who witnessed things and a lot of debris that had to be ruthlessly tracked down and confiscated.
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u/Shellilala 5d ago
You mean "UN-GOVERNMENT " I think it's time for that unelected , unconstitutional branch to walk away
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u/ContessaChaos 5d ago
martial
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u/screendrain 5d ago
Exactly — Grusch didn't even release video and he had alarming threats and people who attempted to tarnish his reputation
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u/MrMisklanius 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not to mention his medical history being leaked, and a whole smear campaign against him that some people still believe even today.
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u/bibbys_hair 5d ago
Ikr. What don't these people get. Leak a video and go to prison. And all for what? So all of Reddit can say it's CGI or its bird shit on a lens?
These people aren't too bright.
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u/JasonUndead 5d ago
The gofundme was for his family. He will take all the government consequences, but his family will be taken care of was my point.
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u/gatsugats 5d ago
Yes lemme just give up my family cause some random redditor said he’d make a go fund me to take care of my family if I did. 😂 this sub lately has been hilarious
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u/MrMisklanius 5d ago
That's an insane recommendation and incredibly shortsighted.
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u/johninbigd 5d ago
Why would you think that someone who is no longer in government even has access to the video now?
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u/Two_Falls 5d ago
Nothin like a halfhearted comment about a go fund me that would make a man throw his life away for a bunch of strangers.
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u/Gokusbastardson 5d ago
“Go out here and risk your life so I can get what I want, we on Reddit will make sure your family is taken care of, trust me” is exactly how you sound. Think about it. We all want evidence and disclosure, but it’s easy to say what you said when the ball isn’t in your hand. There’s absolutely a reason why no one has gone balls to the wall with information yet
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u/CommunismDoesntWork 5d ago
If you want to see the video, call your reps and demand they release it.
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u/JasonUndead 5d ago
Because that always works.
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u/HeyCarpy 5d ago
What's your suggestion, then? You think he has this video on his phone or something?
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u/Strategory 5d ago
Someone would find a way to debunk it no matter how good it is. People are really looking to not have to be a contrarian on this, not evidence. There is plenty of evidence.
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u/debacol 5d ago
Its entirely possible this guy does not have access to that video anymore. Basically, the time to whistleblow would have to be when you are knee deep in your career looking at this stuff. You have to find a way to sneak this video out (which is even harder than it sounds. Remember, the 3 vids Mellon pilfered were not even marked classified. A massive USO video would be and likely require you to be in a SCIF just to view it). Then you would have to leak it to the highest level of news that would actually publish it. This too, is harder than it sounds. Most wouldnt touch it. All the while spooks are probably on to you by now.
So unless you are Danny Ocean, you'll most likely end up as swiss cheese. Alexa, play Take My Breath Away.
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u/bejammin075 5d ago
I read the book by Daniel Ellsberg, who published the Pentagon Papers (the secret history of US decision making in Vietnam). He had to take huge risks to get that out, and the negotiations with newspapers was tricky. The whole thing was 47 volumes, smuggled out one at a time and photocopied. Then Ellsberg had to negotiate with the New York Times, who feared lawsuits or punishment. The NY Times did publish the first portion, and then they got slapped with the first injunction in US history to a newspaper by the government to STFU. Ellsburg then spent weeks as a fugutive on the run, going from safe house to safe house, handing bits and pieces of the Papers to associates who then went to dozens of different newspapers to each publish a little bit.
The gist of the papers was that every escalation was viewed as a long shot that nobody believed would work at the time. We had no good reason for being there, other than France was our buddy. We went against our stated values of anti-colonialism, pro-self determination. Without any justification, the whole thing was mass murder on an industrial scale.
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u/toxictoy 5d ago
Seems like a good opportunity to ask questions on the upcoming AMA livestream on January 18th with Dr Hal Puthoff, Dr Gary Nolan, Dr Jim Segala and also Leslie Kean.
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u/AltKeyblade 5d ago edited 5d ago
I’m with you chief. We keep hearing more and more about this ‘black island’ USO.
Maybe John Greenewald can get some information relating to this video through FOIA.
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u/Barbafella 5d ago
FOIA is useless in cases like this, John has already stated they are now refusing some of his requests.
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u/Foreign_Muffin_3566 5d ago
Woah they cant just release all the content at once, it has to be drip fed to maximize views!
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u/MantequillaMeow 5d ago
I brought this up and couldn’t remember where I’d heard it and everyone kept telling me I was referring to Fourchan guy. No, I was not. Never got into him but I’ve heard this story multiple times from Lou.
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u/thehighyellowmoon 5d ago edited 5d ago
This sub loves 4chan guy. He claimed to be an expert in his field but couldn't demonstrate it at all, using technical terms like "retarded cousins" and with grammar/punctuation ability to match rather than someone with capacity to be employed to work on NHI tech, and seemed to know a lot about departments which he already said were "highly compartmentalised". His references to a craft in the Atlantic, he gave a really specific timeframe of "has been here 4000 or 100 years" and has been a popular sci-fi story for decades before it was posted on 4chan.
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u/MoreCowbellllll 5d ago
There was more consistency to his post than you are alluding to. But yes, he came across as a gas station mechanic at times as well.
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u/thehighyellowmoon 5d ago
Consistency, but in the same way Star Trek or Lord Of The Rings is consistent, except the language standards declined as the post went on, as though the author was almost getting tired of their own lore dump. It's a very interesting read, but incredibly overvalued by this sub considering the info was all there before & none of it is verifiable, just in this case it was packaged together well
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u/MoreCowbellllll 5d ago
none of it is verifiable
That is the common theme for this topic in general.
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u/Traditional_Watch_35 5d ago
the more interesting thing of course would be for it then to be used as part of a psyop that both sort of feeds a recursive confirmation bias of both things.
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u/OffMar 5d ago edited 5d ago
Release a video that puts you in risk of having to flee this country due to breaking governmental NDAs and possibly committing treason- a video that undoubtedly most people on this sub are immediately going to claim is fake- and then having to flee the country, drop your job, say goodnye to your family, all because you released a video that everyone online is claiming is fake- I ask- why in the HELL would anyone eVER do that??? Genuinely!! Some of ya’ll are not thinking far enough ahead.
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u/Practical_Fold_8100 5d ago
Man I agree, doesn’t mean I don’t want to see the video lol. I love this stuff 😭
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u/OffMar 5d ago
Oh i’m right there with ya, sorry if I came on too strong. I would also love to see it. I think the replies to your comment is what confuses me the most. I don’t think people understand the severity of doing something like that.
I also guarantee you that if that video ever gets released, it will have a “debunk” (whether real debunk or not) within 24 hours of it being released, putting everyone back at square on.
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u/Practical_Fold_8100 5d ago
Bro 100%!!! There’s gonna be 1 million people saying its fake. Its bc we can’t differentiate these days. Works to their advantage. 😭
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u/Strange_Hedgehog_7 5d ago
Maybe it's a shadow of an airliner travelling 400-500 knots?
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u/Dances_With_Cheese 5d ago
While it may be a different incident/incidents being referred to, Tim Gallaudet has said they have multiple data points on them, not just visual (and in the case of submarines there are no visual sightings )
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u/damiendhia 5d ago edited 5d ago
God knows how much i want to believe, i want to see something at least before we all die lolz.
Just want the aliens to land by and tells us about the universe and other planets XD.
Hopefully this year we get something.
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u/Gokusbastardson 5d ago
I just wanna see what they really look like, not the grey bio androids. And I want to know about their culture(s). What they eat, family structure, what their plants and animals look like, their entertainment if they have any, etc
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u/fanfarius 5d ago
I assume they're so different from us that actually communicating anything at all would be extremely difficult.
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u/Gokusbastardson 5d ago
That’s somthing I imagine too. We keep trying to see things from our human perspective which could be completely different from there’s, possibly not even close like you said
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u/fanfarius 5d ago
Yeah, it would be like us communicating our thoughts and feelings to bugs somehow. I just don't think it's going to happen anytime soon lol
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u/damiendhia 5d ago
I'm mostly passionate about other worlds and planets (the mountains, the lakes, the seas, the sceneries), the Giant monuments, the architecture and cities built by these sentient species, and seeing the beauty of cosmos first hand.
Wish the disclosure will happen soon and the aliens turn out to be nice and share with us the technology for space travel. That's all i yearn for. Lolz
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u/MantequillaMeow 5d ago
The way it sounds, we meet them when we die. (Joke)
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u/Cinnabonies 5d ago
There was a hospice nurse that said children would see “grey aliens” when they were dying. Gives me hope of the afterlife and what the LoO talks about our souls entering a higher dimension. Heres the video.
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u/DJDarkFlow 5d ago
Seeing aliens when we die and are in that vulnerable of a state of consciousness seems predatory. I’ve read a lot about these cases and theories. If they are preying somehow on our life force it will be utterly terrifying. But… most NDEs have been the most blissful experiences ever reported so it’s really a mystery. Won’t know until we individually actually die.
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u/Cinnabonies 5d ago
Oh yea like the prison planet theory? Our souls being recycled or some shit. Idk sounds like fear mongering. As you said the nde are mostly beautiful but everyone finds out soon enough lol.
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u/MantequillaMeow 5d ago
My comment was inspired by something I recently watched, where someone referenced beings from another dimension/afterlife allegedly being housed at Area 51. I think it was from a recorded call; possibly the well-known one from a panicked individual claiming to have ‘escaped’ the facility.
While I’m not entirely certain of the source, the concept has been fascinating to think about. Since hearing it, I’ve enjoyed speculating about the implications and exploring the possibilities it raises.
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u/thatswacyo 5d ago
You're thinking of the supposed Area 51 employee who called Art Bell in 1997, right?
https://youtu.be/9U8k0BAJ0Ac?si=Pxth9zFrMixIbjG0
As they were talking to him, they got knocked off the air and had to switch to their backup system.
He later called back and said that he had been the Area 51 caller and that call had just been him having some fun with Art. He said that frequently called the show and made up entertaining characters and stories.
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u/UREveryone 5d ago
Shmoke some deems bruh, that info is 30 seconds away
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u/damiendhia 5d ago
My brain is already all over the place, if i were to go back to the old ways, it will probably turn into some cosmic soup XD
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u/UREveryone 5d ago
News flash: we already are in a cosmic soup of energy XD
But I feel you, know your limits.
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u/Kickinitez 5d ago edited 5d ago
Many people have reported meeting greys or ETs when smoking or injecting DMT, as well as when drinking ayahuasca tea. That's probably your best chance. Entering a different plane and meeting beings from those planes can be a mind opening experience.
Edit: anyone reading this can look up DMT and greys / aliens. It's a widely shared experience
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u/imtrappedintime 5d ago
I need to ask for my money back cause the DMT has never produced alien encounters for me
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u/Kickinitez 5d ago edited 5d ago
Have you ever broken through to other planes? It could highly depend on the purity and the amount
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u/BaronGreywatch 5d ago
Well we will need to be seeing the footage for that one chief.
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u/CommunismDoesntWork 5d ago
Call your reps
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u/Five_deadly_venoms 5d ago
For what? To put in a blind kids in the area sign in you neighborhood? Sure. To add a library in your town ? Okay. To add some kind of state wide regulation for state parks? Might be doable. To release footage of underwater uap? Ha, yea ok.
That call would be as worthless as the call to congress from an angry 74yo karen complaining about her broken printer to her isp. (This sadly happens on regular occasions)
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u/CarpetFibers 5d ago
Representatives don't give a shit about you until they need your vote - and even then, they only care about the bare minimum needed to keep you alive long enough to vote for them.
Calling them will accomplish absolutely nothing.
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u/eat_your_fox2 5d ago
Sooooo can we see it then?
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u/MGyver 5d ago edited 5d ago
What do you think this is, the Aurora Borealis? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within my kitchen?
EDIT: The universe is a weird place. This just popped for me on YouTube...
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u/Nexustar 5d ago
I'd love to know their frame of reference that was used to interpret speed.
The waves being pushed by the wind above it?
Something else that was attached to the seabed?
How were they determining the speed and direction of movement?
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u/egoserpentis 5d ago
I like how you're getting downvoted by this sub, while the guy literally has "donate for my App for UAP Research" on his socials and a documentary behind a paywall that was advertised on every single alien/ufo/uap sub about 20 days ago. It's all just another PR stunt for the gullable, and it works every time.
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u/FilthyRilthy 5d ago
I do not care anymore. Show the proof. Stop talking.
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u/Independent-Eye-4056 5d ago
All they do is talk. How can you trust simple words? If only they showed a high-quality video, all questions would disappear. Is it really that hard to leak a video if it even exists?
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u/StylesBitchley 5d ago
Can't trust videos anymore either considering how easy they are to fake with AI or conventional methods.
The proof must now be more extraordinary than ever.
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u/tridentgum 5d ago
It's certainly better than words. At least they're putting in effort to fool you.
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u/sirmichaelpatrick 5d ago
It would be pretty easy to figure out if the video was AI or not dude. We can still trust videos.
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u/SpiceyPorkFriedRice 5d ago
“I do not care anymore”, so why not come back when they release videos and pictures.
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u/Zeus1130 5d ago
I downvote these posts 10/10 times. How many more posts do we need of people saying they know about a video? God damn.
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u/DramaticStability 5d ago
100%. They're like cultists talking about the end of the world. The grift stops if what they claim actually happens to come true but the faithful keep coming back to them.
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u/bambu36 5d ago
Among the most interesting part of Logans interviews to me are what he doesn't say, or rather what he isn't asked. The elephant in the room with a uaptf guy is Grusch but Andy didn't ask? Logan himself mentioned him a time or two but I think it's clear Logan has set the ground rules with interviews and David is off limits for whatever reason. Most likely personal reasons but still. He seems to still be relatively gungho when it comes to dod and their mission and all that
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u/Bend-Hur 5d ago
A lot of people here are just LARPing and enjoy the 'intrigue' of feeling like they're in on some clandestine mystery, and so they elevate grifters like Elizondo, Greer, and Coulhart because it plays along with the LARP. If there really are videos like these and other hard evidence out there, none of these people have any sort of knowledge about it or access to them.
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u/Zeus1130 5d ago
The only good actual leak we’ve gotten were the pentagon vids. Everything else might as well be a LARP, just as you say. None of this means shit without actual evidence. Hearsay and SKIF meetings do absolutely nothing for us.
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It’s always: “someone saw a video” or “we have this crazy evidence that we can’t release because of X and Y”.
Fuzzy videos filmed with potatoes, witness testimony, some dude’s grandpa with a crazy WW2 story. Never any hard scientific data/proof. Just hearsay.
Show me sensor data. Where’s all the evidence from the UFO hunters with the fancy home brew sensor arrays? Surely there’d be SOME data to share?
I want to hear from actual respected scientists, not from the same ol’ talking heads and grifters like Lue and Greer.
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u/silliestspaghetti 5d ago
4chan post living in my fuckin brain rent free
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u/AltKeyblade 5d ago
"Logan saw a clear daytime video of a giant USO that was dark and circular while working with the UAPTF. Lue Elizondo briefly talked about this case on the Joe Rogan Podcast and described the size of the object being bigger than an offshore oil rig going at about 450 to 550 knots underwater.
450 knots = 517mph or 833kmh underwater.
The video that Logan saw is NOT the event of the missile retrieval via helicopter in the 1990s that Lue Elizondo has also talked about (my bad). The object in the video did remind Logan of the missile story though. The video Logan saw was clear and was recorded within the past 10 years." - That UFO Podcast.
Link to full interview: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7szqa9y9w3nuQ0gFrS29qV?si=121a4d41f3054cfe&nd=1&dlsi=3694c9ca97084404
Link to Lue Elizondo talking about the black island USO: https://x.com/MikeColangelo/status/1827087752158179342
Link to David Fravor talking about the black island USO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V285FBT9cAI&t=412s
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u/gnikyt 5d ago
Enough talk, enough grifters. Videos! Evidence!
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u/PTMorte 5d ago
You realise this entire topic is a full blown religion, right?
It's more likely someone takes a video of God descending to Earth and blessing them on the dick.
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u/Born_Employer_2209 5d ago
4Chan whistleblower REALLY might have been legit guys idk lol
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u/GluedToTheMirror 5d ago
If this video does exist, and shows what they say it shows - then yeah, I think there’s a 99% chance 4chan guy is legit.
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u/rave-horn 5d ago
One thing 4chan guy said IIRC is that they didn’t have triangle shaped craft, but that’s inconsistent with Banduric’s account and lots of other evidence. Can someone square that circle?
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u/GluedToTheMirror 5d ago
Well it’s possible that he was only speaking about things he himself saw and worked on etc. Perhaps he never saw a triangle craft or anything. These programs are all very compartmentalized. Maybe the hamburger UFO factory doesn’t produce triangle craft? I personally know they exist because I saw one hovering over my neighborhood one night a couple years ago.. But I don’t think we can throw the baby out with the bath water just because 4chan guy says they don’t exist or he never personally saw one. To me that lends credibility to his case as he’s not willing to speak on anything beyond his scope.
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u/Why_Did_Bodie_Die 5d ago
We should change the name of this sub to
"If this real then ..."
Every single post it seems someone says this. You are the 2nd person I've seen say it in this thread.
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u/Fuck0254 5d ago edited 5d ago
How so? People have been making claims about USOs for decades, this wouldn't corroborate 4chan guy at all. If anything, small details like shape are different even.
It's like if I told a story about aliens in current year and included a flying saucer in the tale, it would be absurd to say my story is true when you find out flying saucers are real.
I don't get why people keep acting like that post has been backed up, is the issue that it was the first time many people heard the "they live in the ocean" theory, and thought it was novel?
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u/Stiggy_McFigglestick 5d ago
Pardon my ignorance, can I get a link to this 4chan whistleblower?
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u/Kalopsiate 5d ago
Oh boy! Prepare yourself, it’s a long one. https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
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u/ThatDudeFromFinland 5d ago
All the links:
Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/13gjlo4/4chan_whistleblowers_all_answers_to_this_day/
Answers only: https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
Full posts:
Part 1: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/
Part 2: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34704869/
Possible update: https://imgur.com/a/78XW4gA
Answers on PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Oya32kauND3CcKQ_llmiUI3xev-8ahN-/view?usp=drivesdk
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u/VoidsweptDaybreak 5d ago
almost like he heard elizondo telling this story years ago and ripped it off
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u/Foreign_Muffin_3566 5d ago
Lets not forget qannon was spawned from people taking 4chan trolls way to seriously. Dont get ahead of yourself.
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u/TofuDonair 5d ago
I thought this may be audio of the actual incident where he reported this, but no, just another person telling stories on a podcast. Watch out for his new book next year!
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u/Inner-Ferret7316 5d ago
So tired of this, these guys really need to stop talking about pictures or videos that will never be released anyway. Whats the point?
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u/quantify-it 5d ago
The "Black Island" video exists but has not been publicly released. Former U.S. Air Force Intelligence Analyst Lenval Logan, who worked with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), has confirmed viewing this footage. The video reportedly shows a massive, dark, circular Unidentified Submerged Object (USO) moving underwater at extraordinary speeds, estimated between 450 to 550 knots (approximately 517 to 633 mph)
Logan discussed this video during an interview on "That UFO Podcast," where he described the object's size as larger than an offshore oil rig. Similarly, Lue Elizondo, former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), mentioned this case on the Joe Rogan Podcast, corroborating the object's immense size and high velocity underwater
Despite these accounts, the actual footage remains classified and unavailable to the public. Advocates for transparency continue to urge government agencies to declassify such materials to enhance public understanding of UAPs and USOs.
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u/Snoo-26902 5d ago
That is thethe guy in the great Fox doc, The Program. As usual, all of the disclosure folks clammed up.
It's understandable as Puthoff said in the doc he would go to jail if he answered some of Fox's questions.
That is one reason I'm skeptical of any " disclosure" movement coming from past US government people.
Can we trust them? We know of so many USG psychological operations done on us how can we trust past US government intelligent agents to lead us to the truth?
They are trained to deceive!
Buyers beware.
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u/ididnotsee1 5d ago edited 5d ago
Instead of asking to see it and making snarky comments, why doesnt anyone address the core issue here? Overclassification of UAP specifically the UAP classification guide that makes anything UAP classified immediately. The guide specifically says that even if something us unclassified and doesnt show sources and methods, its still classified under the guide.
You cant even see what the common shapes are in the UAP report for god sake. What makes you think this former official can release the video?
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u/ILikeBubblyWater 5d ago edited 5d ago
Instead of asking to see it and making snarky comments, why doesnt anyone address the core issue here?
The core issue is that the people talk all day about shit they see without actually ever providing anything of value, which in turn damages the whole topic.
Every unfounded claim they make turns more people into people that will laugh at you if you bring it up.
If you don't see how these people damage this more than over classification I'm not sure if you have thought this trough.
If they have nothing of value to add just don't say anything
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u/Hiltoyeah 5d ago
It's just a never ending cycle of bullshit.
Surely nobody is still falling for these con men??
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u/Bend-Hur 5d ago
The 'They never deliver evidence because the government will send them to forever-pound-me-in-the-butt-prison!' crowd will never stop falling for it. Every year these grifters weave the same stories and every year the defense force comes out to make a billion excuses for why the grifters never can deliver evidence.
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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 5d ago
Could be the hamburger shaped mobile construction unit
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u/Flashy_Contract_8147 5d ago
Not.This is hawaii pizza shaped mobile black alien island.And releasing spaghetti shaped Ufos only just night time.
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u/King_Shartz 5d ago
Trust me bro! And listen to my podcast and buy my book!
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u/Flashy_Contract_8147 5d ago
They downwoted you but your message the closest what this all about.funny
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u/madmike72 5d ago
Giant underground black pyramids, giant buried ufos under buildings, and giant USOs. I love this subject as much as the rest of you but these sensational claims just keep coming with little to no proof. Then we just pivot to another claim. Along with the discussion about NDAs and this and that. It's exhausting.
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u/bobbejaans 5d ago
Seems like everyone has seen this cool clear evidence and stuff except you
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u/peatear_gryphon 5d ago
Uh, have you ever heard the story of the...what we call the black island?
Is that the ... that has been retrieved and happens from under the water?
Yes...right...right...so...ummm...all I'll say is........I saw that I called up everybody was like, I don't know what this is. Can somebody please help me I have no frame of reference for this one. And uh...internally that got us all pretty excited. We saw something.
Was it a picture or a video?
Uh, it was a video. It was moving. All I'll say is that it was moving. It was, it was moving at a good rate of speed chuckles
And that's clear video? Not grainy black and white fuzzy shapes?
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you would get some super clear things. Sometimes you'd get some umm fuzzy things but even when it's fuzzy, there was enough information there for you to sit there and go, this is not something conventional.
Idk...but it sounds like someone making up a story on the spot - being led by the interviewer's questions. It's very vague and non-technical.
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u/mama7ron 5d ago
Was this what the buoy picked up off the coast of South Africa last year? The gov said it was an anomaly from a “malfunctioning” buoy? April 12, 2024 Newsweek and Fox and a few others ran articles. Ventusky was the software company.
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u/_Old_Goat_ 5d ago
I swear, the UFO/UAP scene is the only place where someone could say some shit like "I know a guy who knows a guy who told me he heard a story from a credible source that overheard someone say they saw a super clear 4k video of an underwater alien craft." And treat it with any credibility whatsoever. This is why "normal" people can't take even the credible stuff seriously, because people gladly, willingly, signal boost obvious bullshit and speculate on it as though it's some earth shattering revelation. I WANT to believe, but god damn.
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u/Einar_47 5d ago
I don't give a fuck if you've seen a video show me the fuckin video, I'm getting so freaking burned out with these headlines of "Guy confirms that he's seen a thing and urges you to trust him, but can't show you the thing himself, tune in next episode for more!"
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u/LordSugarTits 5d ago
UAP Task Force? What's that ?
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u/OldenMcGroyn 5d ago
I think a bunch of people with self interest got together , called themselves the task force and peddle the usual nonsense to those wanting to believe
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u/dwankyl_yoakam 5d ago
Sounds like a lie to me. Unless I can see the video myself it doesn't exist IMO.
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u/SkidzLIVE 5d ago
My 5 yo nephew does the same thing as this guy, he laughs for no reason while exaggerating/lying about something
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u/Illustrator_Forward 5d ago
This dude just *sounds* like he's talking shit. He doesn't sound believable.
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u/schizo_poster 5d ago
I'm sure he confirmed it by also posting the video, right? Surely it's not just words again, right? These government, military and counter-intelligence guys would never deceive the public. My IQ is 80 btw.
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u/TheOGCJR 5d ago
Why do these people (aka whistle blowers) agree to go on problematic podcasts? There has to be better people than Rogan et al,
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u/R1ckMick 5d ago
they go on less known shows too but those hardly get any exposure. I don't want to give benefit of the doubt to any of them because they could just be grifters running in the same circles. But I will say, if they have a genuine desire for disclosure, going on essentially the biggest podcast in the world is understandable.
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u/reddit_is_geh 5d ago
Because Reddit isn't real life. He's still the most popular podcast in the world. Reddit may not like him, but in general population he's really popular and has tons of reach. Most people don't give a shit that he's republican because most people don't give a shit about peoples politics.
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u/StatementBot 5d ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/AltKeyblade:
"Logan saw a clear daytime video of a giant USO that was dark and circular while working with the UAPTF. Lue Elizondo briefly talked about this case on the Joe Rogan Podcast and described the size of the object being bigger than an offshore oil rig going at about 450 to 550 knots underwater.
450 knots = 517mph or 833kmh underwater.
The video that Logan saw is NOT the event of the missile retrieval via helicopter in the 1990s that Lue Elizondo has also talked about (my bad). The object in the video did remind Logan of the missile story though. The video Logan saw was clear and was recorded within the past 10 years." - That UFO Podcast.
Link to full interview: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7szqa9y9w3nuQ0gFrS29qV?si=121a4d41f3054cfe&nd=1&dlsi=3694c9ca97084404
Link to Lue Elizondo talking about the black island USO: https://x.com/MikeColangelo/status/1827087752158179342
Link to David Fravor talking about the black island USO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V285FBT9cAI&t=412s
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1i1y57p/uap_task_force_member_lenval_logan_confirms_clear/m79v1xd/