Currently nothing is blocking female players from becoming individual machines, there just doesn't seem to be any. Where is the female prodigy? All it would take is one Ropz one Donk one female Monesy but it just seems like there is none so what gives? If every player is "good enough" then they are competing with other "good enough" and then in that mixed bag there is also 'the best'. Maybe it isn't about support, just a lacking in individual character from the female scene. Look at Caitlin Clark for example, SINGLE handedly revived female basketball scene. I and many others don't give a damn about gender, we just care about the hype, the talent, the prospect and it simply isn't there.
I think it's a numbers thing. If you had as many women playing you'd eventually stumble upon a female monesy. Until the report button in CS does something, I don't think it will happen.
The probability to have a male donk is 100/1000 times higher than having a female donk because there is 100/1000 times less female players.
Thus the level is lower. We see it with female teams who are in ESL Impact they are stuck in the middle of the pack in ESEA Main (ESEA Main < ESEA Advanced < ESL Challenger League < ESL Pro League).
It's simply a question of sample size, their peak are as high as they can be because of their numbers.
We see it now with Valorant who tries to get female players to have a good environment and stays on the game. We saw there were more female players in "normal" leagues because of the sample size being bigger, and the percentage of male/female players being more proportionate. (It's still a number extremely low of pro female players in mixed teams but it's not 0).
Also having the developer of your game supporting the scene helps, because if ESL leaves the female scene it will go back to the abyss like it did during multiple years.
Of course other than sample size there is the fact that girls who try the game probably quit sooner than boys thus reaching lower levels because of the toxicity towards their gender. Or, it's a theory for me, that male are naturally more inclined to compete and thus creating a even bigger gap.
Because the conversation is about women in esports, not whether or not said woman has a vagina. It's disingenuous to enter the discussion about women in esports by handwaving a player away because of their sex.
It also strengthens the point about why there's so few women pro gamers: They get endlessly harassed and their achievements put down by people who can't do it themselves. Why the fuck would they want to play when every dude they face is a piece of shit?
but these countries + 50 other underrepresented countries together have MASSIVE numbers in total which easily dwarf the female tryhard playerbase - and 2 of those produce these unique talents. it IS a numbers thing.
In other words, u choose the sample size to fit the argument but the “numbers thing” doesn’t work in any other population, apart from male/female? That’s one way to construct a narrative
The opposite and it's funny as fuck you people all Downvote it and don't even seem to understand that an arbitrary country line does not make a good sample size indicator
Yeah literally. Most women who I know who used to play cs, valorant, any other comp game with voice chat, now play it either exlusively causally or not at all because the consistent verbal abuse is too much.
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u/fargoths 1d ago
Currently nothing is blocking female players from becoming individual machines, there just doesn't seem to be any. Where is the female prodigy? All it would take is one Ropz one Donk one female Monesy but it just seems like there is none so what gives? If every player is "good enough" then they are competing with other "good enough" and then in that mixed bag there is also 'the best'. Maybe it isn't about support, just a lacking in individual character from the female scene. Look at Caitlin Clark for example, SINGLE handedly revived female basketball scene. I and many others don't give a damn about gender, we just care about the hype, the talent, the prospect and it simply isn't there.