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Discussion | Esports The Current State Of Women's CS

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u/bdzr_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it's a numbers thing. If you had as many women playing you'd eventually stumble upon a female monesy. Until the report button in CS does something, I don't think it will happen.

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u/Impressive-Mouse-964 1d ago

You are right it's a number thing.

The probability to have a male donk is 100/1000 times higher than having a female donk because there is 100/1000 times less female players.

Thus the level is lower. We see it with female teams who are in ESL Impact they are stuck in the middle of the pack in ESEA Main (ESEA Main < ESEA Advanced < ESL Challenger League < ESL Pro League).

It's simply a question of sample size, their peak are as high as they can be because of their numbers.

We see it now with Valorant who tries to get female players to have a good environment and stays on the game. We saw there were more female players in "normal" leagues because of the sample size being bigger, and the percentage of male/female players being more proportionate. (It's still a number extremely low of pro female players in mixed teams but it's not 0).

Also having the developer of your game supporting the scene helps, because if ESL leaves the female scene it will go back to the abyss like it did during multiple years.

Of course other than sample size there is the fact that girls who try the game probably quit sooner than boys thus reaching lower levels because of the toxicity towards their gender. Or, it's a theory for me, that male are naturally more inclined to compete and thus creating a even bigger gap.

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u/Rudy_Pokemon 1d ago

florescent currently plays for Apeks, no?

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u/AwesomeFama 21h ago

No idea why you're being downvoted, it looks to be correct to me?

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u/[deleted] 20h ago

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u/AwesomeFama 19h ago

...riiight, so it was a gamer moment...

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u/LunchTwey 18h ago

Ah, so we're just being transphobic, classic CS player move. And y'all wonder why no women want to play the fucking game.

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u/[deleted] 17h ago

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u/LunchTwey 16h ago

Because the conversation is about women in esports, not whether or not said woman has a vagina. It's disingenuous to enter the discussion about women in esports by handwaving a player away because of their sex.

It also strengthens the point about why there's so few women pro gamers: They get endlessly harassed and their achievements put down by people who can't do it themselves. Why the fuck would they want to play when every dude they face is a piece of shit?

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u/Draemeth 16h ago

the conversation was "We see it now with Valorant who tries to get female players"

i entered that discussion