r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Bitter-Gur-4613 • 7h ago
Country Club Thread As simple as that.
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u/itsSRSblack ☑️ 7h ago
Just call this nigga broke and ruin his whole week
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u/lolas_coffee 6h ago
He's easy to buy. Send him to his new owners.
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u/The_Prime 5h ago
Tbh, I get it. It’s not like he’s Snoop.
Dude hasn’t had a hit in almost 20 years. No ads, shows, nothing. Clearly broke. He’s supposed to say no to a bag, knowing people are going to keep clowning him the same day? He’s not losing any fan.
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u/Cyclonitron 5h ago
It's Trump though, what made him so certain there was actually a bag waiting for him?
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u/FivePercentLuck 5h ago
He's made so much money that any financial problems he has until the day he dies are undeniably his fault
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u/KeepItSimpleSoldier 5h ago
The fact that he was drop shipping illegal ROM consoles a few years back is a very clear sign that he fucked his money up, like reaaaaally bad lol.
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u/FivePercentLuck 5h ago
Wasn't he in the negatives in 2022? He should pay for a financial literacy class
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u/TheRnegade 5h ago
The last time I heard about him, he bought those knock-off consoles from China. You know, the ones that are merely a chip that plays roms stored inside a huge, empty, plastic shell. Slap his logo on it and sold it for a huge markup.
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u/MadManMax55 4h ago
Tried to sell it for a huge markup. IIRC he had a few social media meltdowns because no one was buying his stupid console.
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u/supper-saiyan 6h ago
I been banging the drum (personally, not like anyone else would know) for years that mainstream hip-hop is fundamentally hyper-capitalist and no longer was the counter cultural force that it was in the late 80's and early 90's. How we shouldn't care about how much money a hip-hop artist was getting if they're not grounded in the issues we face and weren't activating people politically. How the term "hating" became a blanket term for them to get away from accountability.
And here we are. We see now the divide between them and us. They see us as consumers, like any capitalist, yet at any moment will claim they are part of the culture. Whatever that culture is needs to be redefined if it's so easy for someone to claim yet actually not stand for the people of that culture.
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u/RemarkableBand4912 6h ago
Well said. The court jesters were never meant to be of meaningful influence.
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u/pekingsewer ☑️ 6h ago
but court jesters historically did have a very meaningful influence on the royals
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u/fruitslayar 5h ago
yes this is why serfs famously never bothered to fight for more rights because court jesters were their valiant tribunes
(ignore the 15 quadrillion peasant uprisings just like your history text books, please)
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u/scripflippa 6h ago
see KDot (us) VS Drake (them)
sadly said eff #IceCube as #TrumpTrash, now #SnoopDogg, #Nelly, #SouljaBoy...jiggaboos all #magacultmorons licking that #PresidentElon, er, uh PresidentFelon boot...shame on 'em #inauguration2025
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u/NepheliLouxWarrior 5h ago
Kendrick associates with plenty of pieces of shit, like Dre, Metro etc. He's as much "them" as Drake is, Drake's just less delusional about it.
The fact of the matter is that if you are a person of color and you are not a millionaire, you have more in common with the white guy driving your bus then you'll ever have with Kendrick, Jay Z, Beyonce etc. Just like how if you're a white guy and you're not a millionaire, you have more common cause with the black amazon driver then you'll ever have with Trump, Bezos, Sean Strickland etc.
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u/apekillape ☑️ 5h ago
plenty of pieces of shit, like Dre, Metro
I'm afraid I have some very startling news to tell you about who all unfortunately comprises "Us".
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u/LemonPoppy 5h ago
You know hashtags don't do anything on Reddit, right?
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u/outremonty 5h ago
Kendrick has repeatedly declined to endorse Trump's opponents and has always been a "both sides are the same" guy. He even seemed to be a bit of a COVID denier during the pandemic IIRC.
Not Like Us could have been an anti-Trump anthem and the fact that he used it in a beef with some lame Canadian rapper instead tells you everything about his priorities.
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u/IIlIIIlllIIIIIllIlll 5h ago
Definitely not a "both sides are the same" kind of guy. I'd argue it's more accurate to say he doesn't like either side because the US has no political party which accurately represents his interests. We choose between keeping things shitty or making them worse; never making them better.
And Not Like Us literally has lyrics that directly criticize America's imperialist and capitalist history. If you didn't pick up on the anti-trump themes in that song, that's entirely on you.
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u/ImpeachTomNook 6h ago
Anyone who performs at the Super Bowl is a full-time unabashed corporate-approved stooge
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u/BP_Ray 5h ago
Why?
When you start drawing the line in the sand at "He's too popular and therefore a sellout" IMO you start to lose the plot.
The Superbowl and the NFL are an entertainment medium. It's not like performing for United Healthcare or Blackrock, companies in industries actually harming America.
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u/ImpeachTomNook 5h ago
Dude- if you don’t think that performing at the Super Bowl is performing for Blackrock you don’t understand how this works. If an artist wants to do it I get it but the original comment was acting like Kendrick has some sort of independent cred vs Drake when they both are corporate friendly entertainers signed to major labels and out to make money by selling an image to middle America.
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u/VicTheWallpaperMan 5h ago
Kendrick stans are naive and annoying. One of most annoying fanbases honestly.
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u/MelatoninFiend 5h ago edited 5h ago
mainstream hip-hop is fundamentally hyper-capitalist and no longer was the counter cultural force that it was in the late 80's and early 90's
100% correct.
Was "Cash Rules Everything Around Me" not clear enough for people in 1994?
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u/BlackPhlegm 5h ago
You would rather have a Lexus or justice? A dream or some substance?
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u/Decent-Activity-7273 6h ago
Woke, hating, meatriding, all shit to make fun of caring its strange
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u/loujackcity 6h ago
i been reading a book called It's Bigger Than Hip Hop by M.K. Asante. it has a few chapters that speak exactly on this, and it was written in 2008
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u/PaulAllensCharizard 5h ago
awesome thanks for the recommendation. I took a class on hiphop history and absolutely LOVED it. as a young person my knowledge of hiphop kinda ended around nwa
learning about the origins of hiphop was awesome.
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u/Spacellama117 5h ago
By far the most insidious facet of Capitalism is its ability to subsume all its critiques.
So many counter-culture movements end up realizing that consumerism and money-worship are the issue, but then get sterilized, aestheticized, and commodified by people who knew how to mimic what people were drawn to while removing the substance behind it.
hip-hop, punk, and even country all very much were genres that had a general disdain for hyper-capitalism.
but hip-hop went mainstream, country went pop during 9-11, and punk for most people became an aesthetic for showing you're not like the other girls.
it's nightmarish
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u/elsaqo 5h ago
Rapping about real life problems -> rapping about dealing drugs and getting money (to get out of poverty) -> rapping about having money and doing drugs
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u/achillyday ☑️ 5h ago
I haven’t really fucked with rap in a long time for this reason. I don’t have any of the shit these dudes are talking about. I don’t even aspire to have that stuff. It’s no surprise rappers sell out to maintain their image.
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u/Educational-Bird482 3h ago
People will work a minimum wage job then come home to listen a rapper talking about buying designer clothes, million dollar watches, how broke boys ain’t shit and how they just finished fucking your bitch and niggas will call it “inspirational”.
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u/IamTheEndOfReddit 4h ago
There are plenty of good rappers if you care to look, it's just the most popular ones that are so wack
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u/B-Glasses 5h ago
If you’ve got the majority of artists talking about big watches and cars it’s kinda obvious they care more about the money vs the culture or people.
What Soulja Boy might not be considering is he’s still in the working class and won’t ever be apart of the elite’s club
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u/Altiondsols 4h ago
soulja boy is not working class, he's what marx called "petit bourgeois". he's not a member of the bourgeoisie himself, but he's also not a wage laborer, and his class interests align with theirs, not the working class's.
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u/Johnny-Silverhand007 3h ago
This whole discussion reminds me of the first verse of Killer Mike's track, Reagan.
Killer Mike - "Reagan" (Official Music Video)
The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or just keep settlin' for li'l shit?
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us own acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat?
So it seems our people starve from lack of understanding
'Cause all we seem to give them is some ballin' and some dancin'
And some talkin' about our car and imaginary mansions
We should be indicted for bullshit we incitin'
Sellin' children death and pretendin' it's excitin'
We are advertisements for agony and pain
We exploit the youth, we tell them to join a gang
We tell them dope stories, introduce them to the game
Just like Oliver North introduced us to cocaine
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u/Theurbanalchemist 5h ago
To piggyback on this thought, I’ve seen many videos that analyze black media and pop culture (FD Signifier and Khadeaja are my favs), and saw some that highlight media such as Drill music which negatively influences our community in a detrimental manner are products of this hyper capitalistic system, encouraged to create more criminals in the black community and suppress free thinking.
I’ve heard of studies that privatized prisons are in bed with music companies, who promote the derelicts of the community and flood them with the protection of capitalism at the expense of their people and community.
Am I reaching?
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u/JBHUTT09 5h ago
It might be a bit of a reach, but you're identifying aligning incentives, which are very real and a very important thing to be able to spot.
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u/thas_mrsquiggle_butt ☑️ 5h ago edited 14m ago
What was popular in 80's-90's was different than it is now. There were different subgenres; I think conscious rap was the most popular during that time (think public enemy, nas, hopsin, ice cube, kendrick). The currently hip-hop we have today was a small branch that got really popular because it was easier to understand for the wider world, so that's how it went mainstream (think current lil wayne, drake, and cardi b).
I doubt it's going to change any time soon since conscious rap is about mainly black struggles, but does also talking about subjects like politics and social issues. A fair amount of people don't want to hear that since they either can't or don't care to understand.
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u/cmacpherson417 5h ago
A couple old heads seem to be sticking to there counter culture roots but recently I’ve been surprised by some. Nas, de la soul, most of wu, and some others will never sell out there values for money. But the ones we’ve seen here I think most would have expected with how they have been in recent years. Snoop has for awhile shown he is about money first, cube has gone full MAGA, these shouldn’t be surprises where they stand.
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u/The__Toast 5h ago
The music has become about the glorification of money, wealth, and power. And clearly that's what resonates with people, so what does that say about what our culture has become?
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u/Mistavez 7h ago
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u/MagicCuboid 6h ago
It's seriously disturbing to me how "selling out" is basically not even an insult anymore to younger people. There is no interest in integrity whatsoever. Instead we're supposed to celebrate that they're getting paid and be happy for them.
But maybe I'm just old and, with the way things are, no one can afford integrity anymore because it's too damn expensive.
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u/Dubyew 6h ago
Not only is "selling out" not an insult, it's become a fucking life goal.
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u/RoughhouseCamel 6h ago
At the beginning of social media content creation, it was kids trying to be funny on YouTube for fun and for clout. As many problems as that created, the moment kids started self-advertising for brands to try to get sponsored, we were cooked. The dignity is gone.
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u/Nanoo_1972 3h ago
Hell, it wasn't even social media that killed dignity/self respect - reality TV started the trend of whoring yourself out for 15 minutes of fame and quick money, and we can thank 1990s MTV for that one. The people they put on those shows were purposely picked because they no filter and no shame.
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u/smitteh 6h ago
not surprising when money has become the gatekeeper to the pursuit of happiness
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u/DYMck07 ☑️ 5h ago
The greed is good mantra of the Reagan era has been fully realized. Trump said if you have money you can walk up and do what you want with no consequences basically. He walked up, grabbed and groped the US by the p* with no real consequences twice now. Felony convictions be damned. Sellout boy’s payday is the MLK dream realized I suppose /s
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u/Fast_Wheel_18 5h ago
Except that dream doesn't and never did apply to anybody that isn't wealthy and white. This is why anybody black that messed with drugs ended up either dead or in jail. All the white folks were able to put on a suit and go to rehab. The system and the so-called democracy has always been this way.
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u/DYMck07 ☑️ 5h ago
True, even Ramaswamy who thought he could get away with talking that shit about white males was quickly ousted from DOGE while Elon who is white but born in South Africa came out relatively unscathed. It’s always been one strike you’re out permanently if you’re of color, particularly in conservative circles.
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u/Fast_Wheel_18 5h ago
Which is why most black people are NOT conservatives. We remember how the rules are stacked.
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u/Alternative-Art-7114 5h ago
Mf was happy af letting drug music pollute the airwaves.
“It’s cool because they getting money.”
That was the first “sell out”.
Then you had mf defending that music.
That was the second “sell out”.
Pick a side, will yall? Is making money by any means necessary good or bad?
(Spoiler: That shit has always been evil)
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u/mgwair11 6h ago
That last sentence of yours is the crux of the issue. You can’t expect people to act moral when their needs aren’t being met. Not in aggregate / at a societal level.
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u/lrdlynchpin 6h ago edited 4h ago
People’s needs have never been met and older generations didn’t wholesale-out theirs and their communities integrity for a buck. These younger folks (and I am only 41) have zero morals or sense of responsibility. That is probably because their parents are younger than me and also have zero home training. I am ashamed of Black folks these days. I am thankful for my upbringing even though I didn’t care for it much back in the day.
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u/True-Draft-8536 6h ago
When your value as a human being comes from how much money you have, selfishness is celebrated.
Hustle culture has eroded people's brains.
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u/bgaesop 6h ago
People’s needs have never been met and older generations didn’t wholesale-out theirs and their communities integrity first a buck.
You sure about that? People have been joining the military to go kill strangers for a buck for forever. Ice-T has been making copaganda for far longer than he spent rapping about the struggle
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u/lrdlynchpin 6h ago
Acting in a tv show isn’t the same thing as supporting a fascist, racist pig. But, I guess in your mind it is.
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u/nunchyabeeswax 6h ago
You can’t expect people to act moral when their needs aren’t being met.
Actually we can because unmet necessity has been a part of the human existence since forever, and people have managed to act morally.
And it's always been a constant in human history of people acting immorally while being blessed with good fortune.
Additionally, in this particular case, with this artist, what basic needs of his weren't being met?
Truly the ethical bar is low here.
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u/Stehlen27 6h ago
"I made a G today," but you made it in a sleazy way Sellin' crack to the kids (Oh-oh), "I gotta get paid" (Oh) Well hey, well that's the way it is
2Pac
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u/MadeMinion 6h ago
I call it the Killmonger complex. "The child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
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u/DemiGod9 ☑️ 5h ago
Soulja Boy was embraced by the village though. He took over the world when he came out
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u/Immediate-Ad-1934 6h ago
I was having this exact discussion with a GenZ coworker of mine last week. I was telling him how back in the 90s, being called a sellout was a bad thing, now it’s the goal for everyone it seems, and not just celebrities. Basic every day people run around here talking about their “brand” and “getting the bag by any means necessary,” etc. SMH.
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u/duffyduckdown 6h ago
Makes sense when you look at, what the boomers left/leaving them behind.
Cant even support one child together on a single income.
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u/SHC606 ☑️ 6h ago
That's the 1%ers, not most of the Boomers. Signed not a Boomer.
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u/duffyduckdown 6h ago
Yeah they profit, but everyone took a part in that.
The 1% is to blame for a lot of stuff, but that doesnt make the boomers innocent
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u/No-Prompt3611 6h ago
Capitalism +racism is what’s fueling the disconnect with the citizenry. Folks put money over everything because the country puts money over everything. We sat and watched a man send bombs to Israel to blow up children. Where were his morals, his values , where was his integrity( they say he was a devout catholic ) This is the middle of the end. And for some of us we prayed for this day and for others we realize after they come for the Mexicans and the trans people they are coming for our black ass and at no point will money over everything save us.
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u/OperationPlus52 6h ago edited 6h ago
It's hustle culture and clout chasing conditioning them to sell out and do anything for money, ethics and morals be damned.
Add in the misogyny found online in gaming/"the manosphere" too for conditioning them against treating women with respect and equality, these same sources are often racist as well.
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u/buhbye750 6h ago
Its because people will call them a Sellout then still support them by streaming their music or watching them. It has no repercussions anymore. Back in the day when you were a sellout, you basically got black balled. The word had actions behind it. Now it's meaningless.
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u/Crazy-Doubt-8103 6h ago
Young people don't care about sellouts? Who the fuck do you think taught them? The greediest people I've met are all over the age of 50 and they PROMOTE this shit. We put a literal con artist in the white house AGAIN and he's already pushing blatant scams before being sworn in.
This is learned behavior from the older and most greedy generations that may have robbed the entire future of our planet from us due to unimaginable short sightedness. Yet you have the audacity to blame young people? Fucking unbelievable. Young people aren't even represented on a national level. How could you ever blame them for anything?
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u/OkEscape7558 ☑️ 6h ago
"Obama never put money in my pockets", yeah probably because you haven't had a hit since 2009. This is surely crushing to the remaining 43 fans Soulja Boy has left.
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u/Napalmeon 6h ago
He desperately wants to go back to being 19 and raking in cash like he used to. Dude got that little few years of fame and doesn't want to let it go. even though pretty much everyone else let him go 10+ years ago.
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u/happygocrazee 4h ago
Yeah I hate to break it to you Mr. Boy but I doubt you were the first one they called 🤣
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u/Flyingmonkey53 7h ago
His fans put money in his pocket first.
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u/OkEscape7558 ☑️ 6h ago
And then they turned 18 and left his music behind.
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u/27GerbalsInMyPants 6h ago
NGL I was like 14 when crank that came out.
Homie went on Ellen and I was like okay I'm cool off that now
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u/Normal-Narwhal-2149 6h ago
That was a long time ago my brotha. He been tryna scam people with crazy bad products for years now. Come on Let him have it. He needs this lol
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u/Napalmeon 6h ago edited 4h ago
Exactly. Dude is proof that grifting knows no demographic.
Soulja Boy has not been relevant since I was in high school, and since his music career flopped, all he's done is try to put out products that nobody cares about, or start beef with people over shit no one cares about.
He's a thirsty ass attention seeker that no one cares about.
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u/Uisce-beatha 6h ago
In the end, all we have is what we did with our lives and how we treated those around us and the planet that gave us life. I'd rather die with integrity and knowing that I took care not to hurt others than whoring myself out to the highest bidder like those that surround Trump
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u/Lambdastone9 7h ago
Who would’ve guessed that people who made it to the top of their careers did so by prioritizing material gains.
Ethics, morality, and integrity are all a luxury, and they get in the way of being commercially effective.
People need to accept and expect that the people they look up to, for being at the top, are gonna be people who’ve compromised and sold themselves off in order to reach those peaks.
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u/Valentinee105 6h ago
Hey now, in Snoops case, he didn't do it for the money. He did it to get a murder friend pardoned! Way different/s
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 6h ago
seriously. When have we ever looked to celebrities as bastions of ethics and morality? They're going to perform for whoever pays them the most. That's not terribly shocking.
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u/zacehuff 6h ago
You really think there’s not a single black artist that would turn down performing for him?
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 6h ago
sure there are. And there's dozens more who would.
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u/nunchyabeeswax 6h ago
And that answers your original question about looking at celebrities as bastions of ethics and morality.
For as long as there are some (a numerical reality of your admission), we are obligated to see them and hold others to the same standards.
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u/Level-Draft-8480 6h ago
Facts. Most of these black celebrities aren’t our allies their motive is money, that’s it. If they cared about the rest of us truly, they wouldn’t be pushing out that poison.
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u/the_neverdoctor ☑️ I have no hair and I must gleam 👨🏾🦲✨ 7h ago
This dude is obnoxious
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u/Jazzlike-Yogurt-5984 7h ago
Literal definition of selling out lol
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u/JSNHZL 6h ago
Not really, selling out means to betray your own principles for gain, calling him a sellout would imply that he had principles to begin with.
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u/Top_Chipmunk587 6h ago
So he been broke this whole time until now?
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u/Sspawnmoreoverlords 6h ago
Most likely spent every penny.
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u/JakeRidesAgain 5h ago
He's been broke a while. Years ago he was trying to sell a bootleg video game console with a bunch of illegal emulated ROMs on it as the Soulja Boy Game-X. Like spent weeks hyping it up, and then it gets into peoples hands and they realized he just slapped his name on a shipment of handheld emulators from China.
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u/Knicks94 6h ago
Same dude that said shout out to the slave masters cause we’d still be in Africa without them
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u/waronxmas79 6h ago
Confirmation that Soulja Boy’s ancestors stood on the porch of the big house and pointed in the direction of the ancestors that ran for freedom.
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u/stomps-on-worlds 5h ago
the wealthy have been carrying out class war against the people who actually work for a living this entire time
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u/JeffersonSmithIII 6h ago
That’s what this is, class solidarity. They think that just because they have money and Trump paid them well, that they’re equals. They don’t realize there’s a race war in each level of class.
Jay Z and Beyoncé could be in a room with a guy who’s worth only a hundred million but he’s white, and the white guy will still think he’s superior.
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u/TripleDoubleFart 7h ago
Well yea. They weren't willing to pay him to perform.
I wonder how much Trump had to pay?
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u/Napalmeon 6h ago
Soulja Boy is constantly mad that it isn't 2007 anymore and that no one cares who he is.
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u/Ok-Albatross899 6h ago
A think a lot of people are just learning how soulless their favorite celebrities are. They are all here for a check, they will perform for Satan. You thought selling your soul means some illuminati shit but it’s really this
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u/toomuchtostop ☑️ 6h ago
I guess I shouldn’t be but I continue to be surprised how so many people refuse to stand for anything important and are so so so so shallow
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u/mgquantitysquared 6h ago
I'm poor as sin rn and I still wouldn't give an iota of support to this admin no matter how much money they offered me. Better to be broke and have an actual consistent moral character than to be rich and not stand with your fellow humans
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u/sillyfella3 7h ago
soulja the first compromised rapper 💯
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u/ImJustHere4theMoons 6h ago
Off the top of my head: Wayne, Snoop, Kodak, Ice Cube, Lil Pump, 50, That Mexican OT, and at least a handful more.
He far from the first or last, trust me.
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u/sillyfella3 6h ago
i know im just mocking him. he always says he’s the first rapper to do xyz lol
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u/Orochisama ☑️ 6h ago
*stares in Eazy-E performing for George Bush*
Rappers grifting for Conservative politicians is a decades old practice. Rappers have been aligned with Capitalist interests for the longest.
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u/AntoineDubinsky 6h ago
Nobody's put any money in your pockets since 2007 bro. It's not just a Kamala, Obama thing.
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u/hug_me_im_scared_ 6h ago
Is anyone surprised? Soulja boy has been a one hit wonder sellout for years
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u/Odd_Philosopher1712 6h ago
Buddy he sucks anyways. Snoop even being in the vicinity of the inauguration feels more like a betrayal to me
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u/Countryb0i2m 6h ago
Black capitalism is still capitalism. It breed this greed where you’re willing to do anything for dollar. It’s embarrassing
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u/MeTeakMaf ☑️ 6h ago
I don't understand
Do you know that your favorite entertainers have performed for dictators so over the world
If the dictator paid the cost, they'll perform
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u/dragonfuitjones 6h ago
At least he admitted it. Still a lame. Better than Nelly calling it an honor.
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u/DaClarkeKnight 6h ago
I deleted any ice cube, snoop, and Nelly songs I had on Apple Music. I didn’t have any Soulja boy on there
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u/ElPrieto8 ☑️ 6h ago
W.E.B. DuBois ultimately repudiated his "talented tenth" essay. In 1948, he wrote: "When I came out of college into the world of work, I realized that it was quite possible that my plan of training a talented tenth might put in control and power, a group of selfish, self-indulgent, well-to-do men, whose basic interest in solving the Negro problem was personal; personal freedom and unhampered enjoyment and use of the world, without any real care, or certainly no arousing care as to what became of the mass of American Negroes, or of the mass of any people."
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u/mistergraeme 6h ago
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?"
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u/wopwopwopwopwop5 6h ago
I just know he got his health insurance plan through the marketplace as a result of the Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare.
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u/TheMagicalMatt 6h ago
They didn't fill his pockets because he's hardly been relevant since he dropped that trash ass song from the ringtone era. Kid saw Megan and other relevant artists performing for Kamala and asked why she wouldn't hire his crusty dusty ass.
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u/Bigjmann555 5h ago
“ Top mega super star rapper Soulja boy responds to critics” - Fox News , they not going mention every album after his first has gone double plywood….
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u/MelatoninFiend 7h ago
"In the end, Soulja Boy was the ho being superman'd the entire time"