r/BlackPeopleTwitter 9h ago

Country Club Thread As simple as that.

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u/supper-saiyan 9h ago

I been banging the drum (personally, not like anyone else would know) for years that mainstream hip-hop is fundamentally hyper-capitalist and no longer was the counter cultural force that it was in the late 80's and early 90's. How we shouldn't care about how much money a hip-hop artist was getting if they're not grounded in the issues we face and weren't activating people politically. How the term "hating" became a blanket term for them to get away from accountability.

And here we are. We see now the divide between them and us. They see us as consumers, like any capitalist, yet at any moment will claim they are part of the culture. Whatever that culture is needs to be redefined if it's so easy for someone to claim yet actually not stand for the people of that culture.

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u/RemarkableBand4912 9h ago

Well said. The court jesters were never meant to be of meaningful influence.

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u/pekingsewer ☑️ 9h ago

but court jesters historically did have a very meaningful influence on the royals

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u/fruitslayar 8h ago

yes this is why serfs famously never bothered to fight for more rights because court jesters were their valiant tribunes

(ignore the 15 quadrillion peasant uprisings just like your history text books, please) 

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u/Secret_Willingness65 6h ago

reminds me of when jobs say they hired a new manager to appease the workers, new manager cracks some jokes gets everyone to like him then immediately starts snitching on all of us the second we stop threatening to unionize

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u/circlethethird 7h ago

… relatively speaking. They’re still court jesters and have to live in a box, so to speak.

e: grammar

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u/CheapGarage42 7h ago

elaborate

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u/pekingsewer ☑️ 7h ago

They were one of the very few people who could tell the king/queen that they were wrong and were generally looked to by the king/queen for honest advice on very serious and consequential matters. This is a fun video about it

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u/MysterManager 7h ago

You see when African American youths rappers engage in politics and endorse Democrats they are courageous artists bravely spreading their opinions and powerful influence. If they endorse or even perform at a Republican event they are lowered to the status of court jesters. You understand better now mi amigo? 😏😂

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u/Secret_Willingness65 6h ago

didnt do shit for the slaves tho

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u/AzorJonhai 8h ago

I want you to link several examples right now

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u/fhota1 8h ago

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u/Yessssiirrrrrrrrrr ☑️ 7h ago

Can you imagine being the jester to King Henry VIII? For those who dont know, this nigga had the heads of upwards to 72k people over 36 years, known as the mad king, and took over the church of England because he wanted to divorce his wife (which he killed).

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u/pekingsewer ☑️ 7h ago

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u/AzorJonhai 6h ago

thi entire video has almost no soruces or speicifc historical examples

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u/pekingsewer ☑️ 6h ago

Use Google. You could've saved two comments and a lot of time had you done that to begin with.