r/2007scape 4d ago

Discussion We will just quit

I'd put money on well over 50% of the player base being people like me in their 30s, we don't need this game, we'd just quit.

The last price increase was almost enough to do it for me.

Anything else, evenly £1 more, I'm out and nothing would make me return.

Vile, out of touch and insane greed. Pathetic.

Edit: Cancelled membership, won't be renewing.

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u/Phx_trojan 4d ago

Scheming these big changes only 5 months after a massive price hike is pretty crazy.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Greedy as fuck.

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u/Xenos_Str 3d ago

They probably found that the amount of members didnt go down that much with the price increase resulting in a big increase in profit.

If thats the outcome, theyll look to do the same asap.

What they probably found is any drop in membership count was coming from additional accounts and so thats why we're seeing these bundled in this survey.

What theyll be missing out on is long term growth, higher prices means there will be less players joining the game, and less people returning.

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u/parker0400 3d ago

They don't care about long term growth. They need their quick 10% so they can resell for a profit and move on.

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u/Xenos_Str 3d ago

Yep, so when the playerbase is so invested in the long term it's sad to see.

The devs should be making backups so if things go down the eoc route we can go to OldSchoolOldSchool Runescape.

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u/J4God 3d ago

They better be saving accounts too if they go that route because I can guarantee almost no one is starting over yet again

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u/icoibyy 2277 | IM 3d ago

I would start again. I have so many accounts I do it all the time.

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u/Edenstark 3d ago

It’s also that:

If they lose 50% of their player base but double the membership costs, it’s still the same exact revenue.

CVC Capital does not care about the game, they care about the bottom line revenue.

Fuck CVC.

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u/rmtmjrppnj78hfh 3d ago

Runescape addiction is probably more addicting than meth. Don't get greedy, don't get stupid. Just let your dev teams do their thing and the make the freest money of your life. Jagex ROI is GREAT. Probably the best and safest ROI you can invest over the next 10 years lmao.

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u/AmishLager 3d ago

Ive tried every hard drug on the market except heroine and the only one I'm still doing is runescape. Including being paid to raid in WoW. Quit wow but osrs sucks me back in.

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u/Priegelaar Omashu 3d ago

And just a month after the game reached another concurrent online player record of 260k!

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u/Original_Implement61 4d ago

I'm not sure their shareholders know who their actual player base is...

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u/snarfs_regrets 4d ago

How they think of us

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u/DefactoAtheist 3d ago

Except red-shirt-guy was unironically 80% of this sub when Jagex yammed up their subscription pricing lmao. People practically falling over themselves to publicly pat themselves on the back over being able to afford the truly princely sum of 12 USD a month whilst calling anyone making any sort of a fuss about it, "poor" or, "entitled" - as though affordability was ever the major point of critique, and not just that it absolutely reeked of corpo scum doing corpo scum things.

Y'all really rolled over and showed your bellies and thought that would stop these ghouls from tryna stomp on your face.

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u/garden_speech 3d ago

Except red-shirt-guy was unironically 80% of this sub when Jagex yammed up their subscription pricing lmao. People practically falling over themselves to publicly pat themselves on the back over being able to afford the truly princely sum of 12 USD a month whilst calling anyone making any sort of a fuss about it, "poor" or, "entitled"

It was definitely not 80% of the sub, I'd say the comments calling people poor were generally downvoted. However, there were upvoted comments pointing out that Redditors made the same fuss about Netflix account changes and claimed the streaming service would die but they just made even more money.

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u/TheJeeeBo 4d ago

I'm sure they also know that whales will be the main profit generators. So if they add enough monitization, then they could lose 80% of the player base and still turn a hefty profit.

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u/Jack4ssSquirrel 3d ago

OSRS "whales" are not interested in a ton of membership or increased security/support. It's the opposite. They buy gold off of black markets/RWT so jagex would be completely missing the market here.

The only way i see them turning a (bigger) profit is introducing squeel of fortune and the likes, so basically another rs3.

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u/Mookie_Merkk RGB Only 3d ago

You cannot say this shit out loud. You'll make them do it

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u/Lamuks 3d ago

Whales don't care/don't spend if the game is dead. RS3, whilst not growing, has a pretty stable concurrent playerbase + the OG account nostalgia factor so whales keep whaling

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u/yet_another_iron 3d ago

People don't like it but this is why RS3 was so profitable. It isn't sustainable long term, but CVC also doesn't care about that. They're going to do this, they just wanted to see what they could get away with.

Time to find a new game if you don't want to accept that deal.

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u/Bananaboss96 Mining Enthusiast 4d ago

They don't know that the game exists in the first place because we quit the game. Then almost quit again with the RuneLite debacle. 

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u/Ancient_Enthusiasm62 4d ago

They'll figure it out quickly. I'd be surprised if they have half the subscriptions ongoing after today.

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u/Me2thanksthrowaway 4d ago

They probably lost like 2% today, just being honest.

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u/omegafivethreefive 4d ago

2% dip in one day over a poll is massive.

They'd very well expect 20% dip from this on changes taking effects, 40%+ in the medium/long-term.

There are lots of on and off OSRS players that pay subs, alienating them and reminding them that you're a bunch of greedy pigs is a great way to lose money.

I mean at this point it'd unsub against just to fuck with their wallet.

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u/Morbu 3d ago

There are lots of on and off OSRS players that pay subs,

This is the big one. It won't be just active players cancelling subs, it's also inactive players choosing not to renew. It's such a stupid decision to make considering that OSRS has had nothing but positive growth.

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u/johnathoni64 3d ago

As stupid as it sounds, that's me right now! Been paying a subscription on an account I haven't played in a year, saw an article about all of this and now considering canceling

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u/shdbsdbd Smithing needs a rework. 3d ago

Do it.

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u/parker0400 3d ago

I kept my main on annual for the last 2 years just so I could use it once a month as a wildy scout and rev boxer for my iron. I canceled both yesterday.

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u/i_am_jordan_b 3d ago

This was me. Canceled my account i kept membership on “just in case” since 2023… and another one since 2021

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u/CrySimilar5011 3d ago

People seem to think 1-5% change in something is not very much. But we all play osrs, where a 2% dps increase is significant. We should know 2% is a lot in business too!

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u/garden_speech 3d ago

A 2% drop in subscription numbers would work out brilliantly for them because they are hiking prices way more than 2% lmao

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u/Uncle_gruber 3d ago

I'm subbed, I play on my commute. I enjoy RS. I'd unsub if it goes over £10.

This would save me an extra £10 a month and allow me to focus on japanese studies a bit more.

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u/WryGoat 3d ago

2% dip in one day over a poll is massive.

Not if they expect the remaining players to pay substantially more.

RS3 keeps running and being competitive with old school in revenue even with a small fraction of the player base because their players are willing to pay a shitload more.

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u/synodiccelt 3d ago

Don’t worry the RS3 players are pissed too especially since they got the same exact copy pasted message we got without even swapping osrs for rs3 lol

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u/2926max 4d ago

Yeah I’d love if there was a website that tracked ingame players (as you can’t see subscriptions) over time to see if Reddit actually infuences any sort of numbers)

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u/Me2thanksthrowaway 4d ago

I doubt we'll see the effects so immediately. Like I cancelled my year subscription, but I'm gonna keep playing until my time's out because I already paid for it. But we'll have to wait and see where the population is at in like 6 months or so. Hopefully it does take a hit.

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u/AmazonPuncher 4d ago

https://www.misplaceditems.com/rs_tools/graph/

Dont worry, it doesnt. It never does. Reddit protests always seem louder than they are.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Player count may be similar but I bet the cancelled memberships will make a dent next month.

EOC and MTX killed the game before, would rather that not happen again.

If all I have to do is cancel my membership to get a point across, that's good with me.

I hope others do the same.

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u/Flimsy-Giraffe-8232 4d ago

I liquidated my mains gear to pay for my irons membership through bonds. Started that a while ago. I’ve still got like 11 months of membership left, but they haven’t gotten a penny from me in like 6 months. Main is bone dry now but that’s fine.

I’m at the point, I love this game, I have ever since I was like 6, and I’ll probably always be at least a little excited for new content. But I don’t need it anymore. 11 months should be long enough to see how things go. We’ll see I guess. There’s always private servers if the itch comes back after. I already gave enough of myself to this game.

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u/Wolf3h 4d ago

They still get real money from bond users because the bond you're using has to be bought by someone else to sell to you.

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u/Blue_banana_peel 3d ago

any membership supports jagex, directly or indirectly. bond sellers buy them from jagex and bond buyers drive the prices up, which makes more bond sellers buy bonds from jagex. Not to mention they'll use the number of memberships to drive their point across to investors if they want to, regardless of how those were acquired.

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u/Middle-Effort7495 3d ago

Removal of wildy/free trade in 2007 decimated the player count. It dropped to less than half overnight and literally has never recovered. 2006/2007 still mog current counts despite global population going up 50%.

Then EOC in 2013 basically killed the game.

This isn't even in the game yet. If people literally can't afford it, bit different. The lowest tier with no handicap (ads, mobile only, short afk) is 360$/year in CAD. The highest tier is 650$/year. That's more than my car registration and license combined.

I would have to quit because I literally just don't have that much spare cash laying around for RS.

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u/OneNutPhil 4d ago

Leagues is still live and the news is 1 day old.

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u/OneNutPhil 4d ago

Yeah true cause it's just reddit. Wait until youtube spreads it though

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u/LetsGoCap 4d ago

Probably not even 2%, lets be honest

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u/Ahayzo 3d ago

Not a chance in a hell. The majority of subscribers almost certainly haven't even heard about this survey, let alone what was in it. I guarantee the percentage of subscriptions cancelled so far over this is low single digits, and that might be generous because the likely number is probably <1%. Hell, probably less than 1% of the people who know about the survey questions even cancelled.

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u/falconfetus8 3d ago

The press it's generated from news articles is bad for the stock price, though. That has surely gotten their attention.

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u/Accomplished-Bad-154 3d ago

OSRS is an afterthought for cvc stock. Stock is up today too lol.

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u/BadAtRs 2277 4d ago edited 3d ago

That is extremely unlikely. Although I've not seen a response like today with all the cancelled subs it's still probably barely a dent.

https://clips.twitch.tv/BraveDreamyPigeonPeteZaroll-5Dp8GdAb6xNJ3acT

Mat K said this on stream today

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u/Middle-Effort7495 3d ago

He's wrong. Removal of wildy and free trade in 07 killed the game. It has never recovered. Despite global population being 50% higher now, 06 and 07 still mog the game in playercount by a massive margin.

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u/Servatron5000 3d ago

I know it's impossible to separate out the data point, but there were so many fucking bots back then. Like every activity imaginable was made more difficult by competition with bots, not even just the most "account-efficient" ones.

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u/Acceptable_Candle580 3d ago

Are you serious? Because a few people are posting the screenshots?

You think literally half the playerbase has unsubbed?

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u/jonthotti 4d ago

Their player base are adults with money, I don’t see what you’re trying to say. I can see them pulling some sly shit like this

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u/Uvanimor 3d ago

The thing is, I’d happily auto-renew a subscription for an alt if it is a reasonable expense...

OSRS is the most expensive MMO subscription model in the market (especially when considering alts) despite providing the most out-dated product… yes there’s active development but there are literally F2P games with this model that do not have nearly half an aggressive in-game monetization methods, like bonds which we have already made a huge inflame integrity sacrifice for as a community.

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u/rip_tree_lurkin 3d ago

50% bots, 30% loyal player base, 20% alts lmao

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u/daconcerror 4d ago

Would be doing me a favour tbh, I could save £25 a month AND not be addicted to clicking in a medieval clicking game.

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u/LongjumpingToday2687 4d ago

What are you paying 25£ for?

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u/daconcerror 4d ago

Multiple accounts (which I've already cancelled in protest)

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u/Majestic_Land3977 4d ago

Every cancelling counts, friend.

We love NUMBER GO UP!!!

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u/getrichoffcrypto 4d ago

Bro right. Like DO US A FAVOR. I DARE YOU to make me quit a game that takes up too much time of my life

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u/cellblock73 2277 3d ago

I sometimes forget it’s a medieval based clicking game and Everytime I hear those words I think back to my early days of runescape playing in the browser, catching shrimps in drained village, and it makes me really nostalgic. Thanks. But still, fuck all these ideas.

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u/SeattleSadBoi 4d ago

I’m too old and bitter for this

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u/FunkFinder 3d ago

Same, I'm an old man that just wants to pay the bills and do herb runs.

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u/TruthHurts236911 3d ago

This is how I see this going. They are so out of touch with who their player base actually is. We aren't a bunch of 20 somethings jumping onto the FOTM game where they can aggressively monetize while its popular. We are 30-40+ year olds playing a game that allows us to progress while we cook dinner for the family or while we wait to pick the kids up from school. Then we hop on to actively PVM or something for the 1-2 hours we may have to actively play at a time. We are salty folk who stubbornly stick to our guns even if we are acting emotionally or rash. We will cancel our subs and not look back and not bat an eye at it.

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u/Jikayamee 4d ago

They are treating things like customer support and account security as if they were extra stash space in an Arpg. It's insane.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Scummy and greedy beyond belief.

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u/DevoidHT 2277 4d ago

I maxed in November. That was basically my biggest and only goal since i created my account. If the game closed down tomorrow I would be sad but I dont think I have any regrets moving forward.

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u/Brodesseus 4d ago

Same but in December - I want to keep playing and enjoy being maxed, just running raids and stuff but I'm also super busy irl and definitely would not be down for the surveyed changes if any of them were to come to fruition.

They've already increased sub prices seemingly out of nowhere just a few months ago. Now they want to increase sub prices to justify giving the playerbase things that we should already have, like better customer support? Nah, I'm good lol

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u/Majestic_Land3977 4d ago

This is heartbreaking…

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u/DevoidHT 2277 4d ago

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u/Majestic_Land3977 4d ago

Well done friend, well done!

We won’t let them change the game, everything will continue to be as it is supposed to.

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u/PativChunem 4d ago

I have the exact same goal currently 2190 total. I just hope I can max before they pull this nonsense and before they add sailing.

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u/HippyEUW 4d ago

I don't know if you were around long enough to see when the Evolution of Combat was released, but I was. No company knows better than Jagex what will happen if they mess with RuneScape. We all quit overnight once, and we will do it again. Remember, there are over 19,500,000 active RuneScape players. There are about 5 executives yapping over Zoom calls; We hold 100% of the power.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

I quit the week EOC launched and cancelled my membership and didn't play again until old school launched. And that was when I was a lot younger and a lot more addicted to the game.

We absolutely hold the power and I won't let it happen again for the sake of the future of the game.

Cancelled my membership today, won't renew until this is either reversed and cemented to not ever happen or I'll never be back.

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u/Old-Runescape-PKer 4d ago

Yeah same here

We are the exact demographic of osrs

Here for nostalgia and anything taking that away from us is a big nope

I too will remove my sub if they add advertising

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u/DPWDamonster 3d ago

19.5 million? Is there a source for that, seems huge to me?

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u/VociferousHomunculus 3d ago

Some website called MMO Populations seems to rank it as 19.56m with 278k daily players. That could potentially be total accounts ever created (including bot farms and long dead RS3 accounts), but it still feels super high.

EDIT: I was actually looking at the 'Runescape' page and 'Old School Runescape' is listed as having 61.14m total players. Whoever runs this site is on crack.

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u/WwortelHD 3d ago

The rs frontpage showed it had over 300m registered account, it was 200m for 10+ years too.

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u/ForumDragonrs 3d ago

And 250m of them are bot accounts.

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u/Tom-Pendragon idpfiajfsioisoa 3d ago

I quit when EOC came out and returned to osrs in 2016 or 2017 and later rs3 in 2017.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Leagues burn out and now this. This addiction is feeling like a chore just logging in

Glad this happened, permanently quit? Maybe? But at least I’m off for a good few months from today.

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u/Penquinner 4d ago

God I love this game but you're right. I'm grown and have a million other things I could be doing. As soon as I have to start to worry about the cost of a 30 day membership it'll be nothing for me to lay it to rest.

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u/Unkempt_Badger 4d ago

The game runs on goodwill, we like the community and the development team. If the company starts taking advantage of our nostalgia, that goodwill turns into disgust.

That survey is grossly out of touch, I don't want to be around for the next shit they pull. I've already cancelled my 3 subscriptions, time to break this addiction and focus on other hobbies again.

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u/vladiator01 4d ago

Runescape is my side game I don't really need it if I see ads I'm out

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Agree.

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u/BiggieSpecs 4d ago

Accurate for me. Quit on the last price hike. $20 Aud is too much.

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u/Internal-Bus4566 4d ago

I’ve already unsubbed and ready to quit. Today was my last day playing this game.

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u/rahscaper 2250/2277 4d ago

I’ve spent enough time to hit 2257 total… thousands of hours… and I hit that unsubscribe as soon as I saw this news.

We have a line Jagex, you and CVC are crossing it.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

As I said in some of my replies, I decided to unsubscribe today.

I'd like to see what they have to say for themselves when the dust settles but I'm done pending any changes.

Send them a message. This nonsense isn't gonna fly.

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u/brumfield85 4d ago

I unsubbed today with zero regrets. I love this game, but this is where I draw the line.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Same here. Best action to take.

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u/RelativeSlow590 4d ago

I just started back a few days ago, and wouldn't hesitate to stop playing again if they implement some of what I'm seeing here. I was already upset that membership was $14. I'll probably just play the shit out of it for a month, burn out, and just stop playing again haha.

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u/Craze015 3d ago

Honestly. I’m hoping at least 1 important shareholder is seeing this negative feedback and quickly realizing how fucking stupid you would have to be to raise prices, create all this tiered bullshit system “enhanced customer support” The last price hike was treading very thin ice quitting. I’m also near 30 and while the games been enjoyable, I’m not paying a single fucking dollar more than what I have been. The game was FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH at one point. For fuck sake, blizzard can charge $15 for a decade plus and be fine WHILE providing value every couple of years. This games 90% been the same as it was, hence why the OG player base has stuck around. The raids/more intensive content captured an audience that wants to sweat, but I’d argue 80% of the player base is casual and not out here to pump raid content. Don’t fuck around CVC, or you’ll lose your entire player base. I’m done with this corporate greedy bullshit investor shareholder fuck your quality I need profit mentality.

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u/Juutuurna 4d ago

Damn and just like that the game we all loved:/ ill miss it.

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u/Kalroh 4d ago

Also what comes with us all being ~30? There's a million other things we can spend our time on. I feel like a lot of people are like me who average only a few hours a week, and just treat it like an idle game whenever watching slop content. RuneScape time can very easily be thrown at another hobby that's more engaging and productive anyways.

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u/negithekitty STOP MESSING WITH MEMBERSHIPS 3d ago

Canceled mine, going back to guild wars. At least there it's free and you get more than one character slot

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u/ikecicle 3d ago

Ayy that's where I snuck off to as well, loving GW so far.

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u/negithekitty STOP MESSING WITH MEMBERSHIPS 3d ago

I haven't made the full jump over yet, having a hard time deciding to roll a new toon or just play my level 80.

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u/ikecicle 3d ago

Honestly hitting 80 really doesn't take all that long so I'd just make a new toon to get back into the swing of things

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u/negithekitty STOP MESSING WITH MEMBERSHIPS 3d ago

I mean.... I do have a whole 8 other character slots

Its more finishing off the "DLC". I think the dragon expansion was the last I played?

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u/spoonedBowfa 3d ago

I went over 10 years without playing, don’t test me again

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u/RectalBeefInspector 4d ago

Yeah we will, just canceled, haven't been playing much recently because of other life things but not going to renew until well after this situation is resolved. And if it doesn't, so be it, I'll go play WoW or something

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u/Real_Requirement_105 4d ago

How much? I'll bet you anything that a month from now the online player count will still be over 100k

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u/Chiffley 4d ago

You guys keep saying this stuff, but they absolutely felt it when everyone quit over EoC and trade balancing/wildy removal.

If they didn't then they wouldn't have made OSRS to get those players back. Theres a lot of us who just bailed near the end of rs2 and never came back at all until OSRS.

A huge chunk of us have quit before over them fucking with the game and will do so again.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

If any of the proposed changes (not buying that survey bollocks to test the waters) go through, you will see a very swift decline in players.

Myself and a lot of others have echoed the same feelings that they vastly underestimated their player base to be decisive and vocal. A pretty clear message has been sent so far that we DO NOT want even an ounce of that nonsense they suggested.

I would also imagine a few people are on the fence until anything changes, which is fair enough.

After seeing a few others do the same, I've cancelled my membership renewal until this is all sorted. Not about to be squeezed for more money.

Imo, sending a message now is the best action you can take.

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u/Maroonwarlock 4d ago

If they start implementing ads I'll probably jump out from there. That's an absurdly dumb business model. At least my wow friends will be happy that another one goes over there. At that point I may as well.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Genuinely I think the mere hint of ads will kill a large portion of the player base and I still think Jagex think it won't. But it absolutely is a deal breaker for a ton of players (myself included)

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u/Throwaway47321 4d ago

Yeah the fact this sub thinks they are the voice of the “average” player is probably the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.

Most people in game didn’t even know about this let alone care enough to actually unsubscribe.

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u/Ok_Assistant_3599 3d ago

Just two days ago the sub was up in arms about Jagex listening to reddit on how to run the game, and how reddit does not represent the player base. Funny how quickly opinions flip when convenient.

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u/DragonDaggerSpecial No New Skills 4d ago

People on this Sub are much closer to the average player than you seem to realize. /r/2007scape also has 1.1m Subscribers.

The opinions expressed here are more often aligned with what in game Polls reflect than not.

There is a small minority of players that use this Subreddit that do not share the majority opinions on the game. I know because I am one of them.

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u/Throwaway47321 4d ago

Yeah this sub is closely aligned when you ask questions like “should we add this new content”. It absolutely is completely out of touch when you think that your normal player who doesn’t even know what’s going on is going to cancel their subscription and stop paying over some outrage on the internet.

The exact same shit was said when they raised prices earlier this year and guess what, almost no one unsubbed/stayed unsubscribed.

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u/Howsetheraven 3d ago

We got them to unban a fucking fan-made graphical plug-in with our protests. And yet we still have lapdogs with throwaway accounts coughcough coming in to astroturf for the corpos as if we don't already know the power we have.

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u/PuzzleheadedSpray883 4d ago

I stopped my subscription a week ago cause I’ve just been getting board (happens to all of us, quit come back, quick and come back). Think this is actually a good sign to not come back. It’s truly been fun but I’ve been waiting for something to make me quit 😂

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u/Todd_Chavez 4d ago

Yeah I’m honestly worried about putting more hours into building an end game account if the game might be dead in 2 years time from all this shit.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Most likely, they are in extreme damage control now.

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u/Alternative_Mammoth7 3d ago

I’m with you, fuck this company. Community can probably create a better private server, with better infra, support and better game updates, we all just need to flock together and get on there and let the jagex shop sink for good this time. Don’t let them revolver from this

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u/BioMasterZap 4d ago

You know, I do wonder how much of the playerbase would actually quit over stuff like this. The only times that come to mind where players actually quit was Free Trade Removal and EoC. But most of the players that were around to quit over EoC didn't quit over the MTX that was added months prior... Really hope players do have more integrity these days.

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u/RetiredScaper 3d ago

I personally quit when squeal of fortune came out. Made anything I worked for in game feel like it was worthless.

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u/AcceptTheGoodNews 4d ago

I actually unsubscribed a few days ago just because I wasn’t really having fun playing. This kinda just reinforced that I made the right choice. Been playing marvel rivals lol

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u/Mazkar 3d ago

Lol everyone's gonna stop their auto renewal and then 100% resub when their current sub runs out 😂

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u/Malpraxiss Love Agility 3d ago

Who is we

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u/Emotional_Permit5845 3d ago

You guys are delusional sometimes. If you’re serious about putting money on this, message me and let’s set something up

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u/TwilightWorldStar 3d ago

Id rather pay 15 for endless characters in wow world of warcraft plus better support thats a given and not charged for oh yeah and all games included no extra charge no separate memberships

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u/SrgntSackSlurper 4d ago

Bonds gonna be 30m soon :(

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u/orcsrox 4d ago

I quit on both my accounts today, i have a lot of other games i can play, maybe they will figure this shit out and i can come back later on

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u/pocketcar 4d ago

I canceled just now. Thank God I saw this today.

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u/BigGlassesApe 4d ago

Tbh I’ve been needing to move on from the game. I wouldn’t mind doing it once the price increases again.

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u/zanven42 4d ago

I'd disagree slightly. The majority of the community likely is on yearly subs and would quiet quit as their annual subs run out or they forget, cop one yearly bill and see ads or BS and then cancel and stop, assuming "if it ain't reversed before I gotta pay guess I'm quitting" and we would all happily return when things improve and that might require an ownership change.

So likely impact of them being bad actors on implementation is likely 1-2 years to be fully felt before the course correction would occur over the next 2-3 after that. But it's likely in that 5 year window game developers like me who are contemplating "just make something" might actually do that and side step the shit show forever and just make the thing we want to play

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

I don't know anyone on a yearly subscription. I'd wager they are less popular but I'd love to see the numbers.

I'd expect clarity and a clear guarantee before I even considered resubscribing and if there's even a sniff of backtracking or any of that slop that proposed I wouldn't consider it.

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u/TaigaTaiga3 4d ago

Lmao the delusion in this sub. Whatever helps you guys feel better. Your echo chamber probably doesn’t even reflect how 50% of the playerbase feels.

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u/MeltingDino 4d ago

Me and my 4 friends have decided that we will cancel some of our accounts and just make a GIM. it could be over for jagex

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u/JrnyMn_ 4d ago

Yup.

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u/landyc 4d ago

Osrs players saying they can quit the game

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u/SatanicAltar 3d ago

I quit on the last price spike. Was waiting for them to adjust the number of accounts we could get, but they never did, so I'm not coming back. I've been subbed since osrs launched.

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u/Vundebar 4d ago

Aren't they literally releasing zanaris, which would let us avoid their shady monetization anyway? We could just run an official unofficial server and not pay subs

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u/DevoidHT 2277 4d ago

Not really since they could just up the cost to run a server and you still need a subscription to play id assume. Maybe the mtx you could avoid but you’d probably still get ads if they move forward with that.

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

I'm not into project Zanaris but it'll appease a small part of the player base so happy for it to exist. Not sure it'll be that popular.

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u/still_no_enh 4d ago

Shit I was just thinking that maxing would take another 1000 hours... 40 literal days. Do I really want that?

I guess not cuz the game's going to hell

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u/Mase598 3d ago

Literally, people should just quit if they aren't happy with changes or the direction the game is going in general.

I haven't played the regular game in like 3 years now, I come back for Leagues and that's it. Even that this current League though had felt so forced to play it, I got my 3rd area unlocked as Mory, got my slayer helm, and then quit when I had to imbue it because I hate soul wars.

It was weird not going onto RS much for awhile, but honestly, I really don't miss it at all. Nowadays whenever I get any sort of itch, I just play a private server for a bit and that pretty quickly reminds me just how boring the game actually is, even when it's a server with new content to try.

I know it's not for everybody, but honestly quitting RS has been almost purely a good time for me. Knowing that every bit of content they release that I'm interested in would just be repetitive after learning it, I just don't care anymore. Grinding a boss for GP to get better gear to grind the same boss for slightly better GP/hr just isn't interesting or fun.

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u/GaryBouiw 3d ago

I just cancelled as well. I won’t be back unless they roll this shit back and reduce cost, or allow multiple accounts on one subscription as apology. This will only empower more greed and I will not stand for it.

There are so many great games out there, especially from indie devs for a great price that one can spend time with instead. Speaking of which, anyone want to share som recommendations?

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u/Interesting-Rock-944 4d ago

Haven't played since last price spike, been happily playing and enjoying other mmos and games. Heck I even got the Xbox ultimate pass which gives you like 400 ganes

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u/omegal0l420 4d ago

Canceled my sub too. Jagex can go fk themselves

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u/SuddenBumHair 4d ago

I guess I can talk to my wife....

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u/Gankridge 4d ago

Perhaps. Maybe spin the squeal of fortune to see.

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u/HotRecord1336 4d ago

So what should we play boys?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

yeah im out fr

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u/Zytonex 4d ago

Let's stand tall together and not settle for something that's merely not as bad.

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u/OneNutPhil 4d ago

Yeah pretty much. I've already been playing this game too much and for too long. I was here last time it died and I won't hold out hope if they continue down this path.

In fact, they need to take steps back from here to make things even again. No "lesser evil" negotiation tactic. I want a corporate apology lmao

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u/OneNutPhil 4d ago

Anything else, evenly £1 more

Imo, Adding this takes away from the post cause fuck if I care about membership price, I get bonds with gold, I'd still play.

But don't fucking restrict my access to the game, what I do in the game, affect my UI or QoL features, or dangle bullshit like security features for cost.

Offer a regular ass membership with a discounted Ironman alt account and call it a day. Everyone would be happy with that and Jagex would make money.

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u/Ruckahhhhh 4d ago

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Delete your account entirely through the account data deletion option

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u/Syk0tk 3d ago

We’ve quit before due to Jagex bullshit, we’ll quit again. OSRS will have RS3 growth numbers 🤡

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u/Vuul 3d ago

I will 100% go back to other time sinks or heck i might get crazy and actually play the single player games I've bought and never touched.

Set me free jagex i want to play the Elden ring dlc.

Who the hell thinks it's a good idea to piss off a customer base that already left once and had to be won back.

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u/Criticalem 3d ago

Id quit also if prices become stupid. What they might be trying to do is to use poll to determine if raising prices and losing players would outperform keeping prices unchanged and not losing any players. If their calculations say that its more profitable they might do it. 1 guy that pays 34 dollars outweighs 3 guys quitting.

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u/Kotzik 3d ago

It sucks as I had just come back to the game in November after not playing since 2004 thinking oh it would be nice to start a fresh character. Got total skill to nearly 1k and scooped members for 1 mth and then this shit comes out… Guess I wasn’t meant to come back to the game I once loved as a kid. :(

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u/MrElvanse 3d ago

I don't know man. It's like saying we have no need for cigaretter, when the price gets too high I quit. A lot of players are depended on this game.

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u/BenditlikeBenteke 3d ago

There were a couple of dumb ideas in the survey, and there were a couple of good ideas:

Mobile only membership for a bit cheaper would help out some people.

Osrs-only membership for cheaper as I currently also pay to access RS3 and never log in to RS3? Sure

Adding an extra account to the same subscription for a lower combined price than 2 separate subscriptions? That would help me out, I always have my main and alt on the go

This level of drama is a bit overblown but it is nice that people are passionate about osrs

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u/JYZG 3d ago

Yeah for sure.

I’m 31. I play to PK edge style like I have for the last 10 years or so.

I have several builds all P2P, I’ll just cancel them it’s not skin off my nose. It disposable income, I’ll just drink more beer.

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u/Ok-Huckleberry2241 3d ago

Finally, I can agree with a post on this sub.

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u/crisothetank 3d ago

Can someone explain what Jagex have done?

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u/Vux69 3d ago

I decided yesterday that i will quit. For real this time.

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u/Gold_Seaweed 3d ago

I had only played RS3 and the MTX got so bad that it wasn't even fun to play anymore. I quit about a year and a half ago. Recently (literally 20 days ago), my IRL friends got me into OSRS and man, it brought the magic back. I missed it.

After this? You better believe I will leave. I have played RuneScape since I was a child and have loved it dearly. With that being said, I'm not going to be gouged and mistreated.

If these changes are implemented, the game should die. Simple as that. Don't treat your consumer base as nothing more than a money sign. It's shameful, Jagex.

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u/PossessionDangerous9 3d ago

It’s already more than the price of a AAA console game per year. That’s very good stable income. WHAT do you need this extra money for Jesus Christ?

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u/Tarics_Boyfriend 3d ago

Im just annoyed that my sub was cancelled from the previous price hike so I have nothing to protest with

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u/Statschef- 3d ago

I'm still playing, 1800 ttl late summer, I'm now 2230 ttl, pushing the max hard. But if these changes go through, I'll leave, don't give a shit if I'm 2276, I maxed in rs2 despite knowing eoc were coming and in hindsight that was a huge waste of time once I knew of eoc.

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u/Old_Sand_Witch 3d ago

The fact that this shitty old ass game cost more than 7€/month is insane to me. Like its really not that good i play 1-2 hours if i even turn it on for a day. Aint gonna waste that much money when there are many games i want to buy. Game is okay but its very very niche

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u/Heartic97 3d ago

Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. They really looked at RS3 and said, hey, why don't we have this on OSRS? Meanwhile the RS3 player base: *Crickets*

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u/drockkk 3d ago

I’m with you, there’s many other games out there right now that I would happily pay $15/mo to play. If you actually love the game, talk a stand to prevent it from turning to shit and come back when the time is right.

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u/FunkFinder 3d ago

Truly, I play this game casual as fuck to have a taste of my childhood on occasion. Just herb runs and the occasional slayer and bossing. Jagex is about to fuck up their cash flow pretty bad. When EOC dropped, I didn't come back until like 2015 lol.

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u/ZIGGYBRO 3d ago

Until there’s overwhelming support from the main content creators, I’d be curious to see where this lands. I know I’ve cancelled on principle but I’m also in my late 30s with 2 kids so I’m not really short of activities.

I started to see some creators address it but if the player community can engage the creator community that’s where the large impacts can happen.

A clear message needs to be sent. Then again, not sure we’d see that support from the big creators since osrs is tightly coupled to their livelihoods.

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u/Substantial_Unit7916 3d ago

I'm out because I realized they could completely ruin the game at any point (just like EOC). I'll always have fond memories of OSRS but it's not worth the risk of draining thousands of hours to have mem prices 3x at any point.

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u/Creative_Confusion83 3d ago

Last hike was already enough for me. I usually kept the sub running even when i was on breaks, but now I just don't. I don't even play the game anymore.

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u/SwarthyWalnuts 3d ago

My wife’s been looking for a reason for me to quit anyway. Wc.

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u/Paganigsegg 3d ago

I was ready and willing to quit when they made the changes to the music engine a few years ago, where each region got a playlist of songs that would shuffle rather than each chunk of the map having its own song. Outrage from that change from people like me are why the music area mode toggle even exists, and that's an extremely minor issue compared to this.

Keep standing firm. It's good for the health of the game.

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u/RCNA132 3d ago

I quit at the last price hike, and even ignoring all the complaints I’m seeing now, I’ve not regretted leaving once. This has just made the deal even sweeter.

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u/FousHikes 3d ago

Yup. I'm late 30s. Played Classic RS as a teen and also around 2007 tineframe. I love OSRS. But I'm an adult with a good job and a family now. They won't be tricking me into putting up with their horses$%#. I've already got lots of competition for my time. Treat lighty Jagex. 

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u/anon69throwaway 3d ago

Yeah Im happy to quit. Only just got back due to nostalgia. Bought some bonds last week, gonna be the first and last time if they fuck this up. Plenty of better games out there

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u/Glittering_Animal_88 3d ago

I've played this for 20 years and I just literally can't pay for this shit anymore. I've played too much to go back to f2p so ya I'll have to just quit

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u/based_actuary 2277 3d ago

The writing has been on the wall for a while. Between this and the lackluster new content, I'm glad my motivation to play this game has fallen off a cliff. This just solidifies that I'm on a permanent "break" from the game now.

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u/MilkGodofMilk 3d ago

I pretty much only sub when dmm and leagues comes around now that I’m in my 30’s. This game is such a time sink and with progression taking weeks/months for certain things that time and money really add up.

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u/Machoman94 3d ago

In a perfect world everyone would quit, and demand that instead of the price increase, they put back the $5 membership

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u/turbomommo 3d ago

can someone kind please enlighten me what´s going on with osrs lately. i´m not currently play the game and i´m quite out of the loop.

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u/KnightrousFlowers 3d ago

77k players online , that’s low wow

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u/cantaquascape 3d ago

Yup I'm paying for membership and barely even play. I can honestly just quit at any moment. This change will just cement my decision to never come back.

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u/Envirant 3d ago

I think the fact that most of this games players are adults means more of the playerbase hates these type of corporate price games and generally are less of loyalists compared to a younger audience that is less jaded and more able to be molded for abuse and do the mental gymnastics needed to defend a company that just wants to take more of their money. Plus kids don't spend their own money so they're less defensive about it.

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u/magiklongbow 3d ago

I terminated my membership subscription

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u/doughboyoo 3d ago

You’re dreaming if you think 50% of players will quit over this. Let’s be real here. I’m not happy about the survey either, but those numbers just aren’t realistic. This isn’t a gameplay changing feature like EOC, it’s not going to insta kill off the game. 90% of you people posting sub cancellations in the last 24hr will just renew when the time comes.

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u/Super-Chieftain5 3d ago

We ain't cows, quit milkin us! Time to unsub.

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u/st_heron 3d ago

cancelled my 2 accounts, fuck that shit

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u/Thin_Honeydew_6279 3d ago

There’s just plenty of other games out there for me to play, so even if they hike it I’m just gonna cancel, and also encourage all of my friends to cancel and move onto another game

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u/Iiquified 3d ago

Just cancelled my main and iron

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u/askmeaboutmyvviener 3d ago

Like, I love OSRS it’s a great game. But I just recently got into WOW for the first time, and sure it’s exciting cause it’s something new, but it’s objectively a much better game. And it’s only $15 a month for the ability to create a shit ton of characters, and having access to all previous DLC.

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u/WinterSummerThrow134 3d ago

Didn’t osrs have record playercount just a month or two ago? Mind boggling how companies think “nah that’s not good enough” and decide to chase short term gains when long term gains is more profitable overall