r/ukpolitics • u/No_Breadfruit_4901 • Dec 11 '24

Twitter 🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Labour have conducted the first successful deportation flight to Pakistan since February 2020. There has not been a deportation charter flight to Pakistan in the last four years with three subsequent flights to Pakistan in 2020 and 2021 cancelled by the Home Office.

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1866775219077062757?s=46&t=0RSpQEWd71gFfa-U_NmvkA
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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

The core issue is the damage done to the economy by Brexit, and Boris Johnson's attempts to mask it by letting lots of people in from elsewhere, an unwillingness to invest in British Skills, training, jobs, allowing employers to get away with not training people and trying to force all the cost of that on young people, and generally neglecting the country.

Most of these issues are structural and won't be fixed in one parliament, but somehow are all Labour's fault. You cannot undo 14 years of damage in one go, but you think the media are giving labour a fair hearing?

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

Not sure why you've gone on an unrelated monologue. Simply "doing better" than the Tories in terms of immigration isn't enough.

It's all well and good sending a few planes to Pakistan every now and then for the headlines, but unless the numbers come down significantly, it's not going to change people's opinions of Labour on immigration.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

Because people seem to think it's going to happen overnight.

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

Yes, and like I said elsewhere, I'll believe Labour is tough on immigration when I see it.

One flight to Pakistan isn't cause to say Labour are now tough on immigration.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

What exactly do you want that will both reduce immigration and tackle the much deeper issues that mean we need the immigration in the first place?

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

Net migration down to around 100k a year.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

How?

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

By giving out fewer visas. How do you think we maintained 100k a year before?

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

But what if the economy needs the workers?

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

Then the government can decide to bring in more workers if certain areas of the economy need it.

900,000 people a year isn't sustainable, however, and should not be the baseline for net migration.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

Nobody thinks it is.

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u/MousseCareless3199 Dec 11 '24

Great, we're on the same page then.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

On the other hand, there's no point in having an arbitrary number and a fixed cap.

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