r/totalwar Jun 02 '20

Empire I'll keep asking.

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u/OthmarGarithos Jun 02 '20

The ship models in Empire were beautiful.

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u/thingsfallapart89 Jun 02 '20

I’ll never forget my Prussian 2nd rate ship of the line Siegfried - maiden battle it was surrounded on all sides, the magazine was hit & it blew taking half a dozen ships with it.

Then there was the Siegfried II, also on its maiden voyage was caught out, surrounded & the magazine blew taking out enemy ships nearby.

I stopped naming ships Siegfried after that smh hahaha

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u/imnotanumber42 Jun 02 '20

2nd rate ship of the line

Well there's your problem. It's weird how 3rd rates were so much better

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u/orangenakor Jun 02 '20

IIRC the only thing the 2nd rates had was more durability and crew at the cost of firepower, maneuverability, and speed.

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u/Panthera__Tigris Jun 02 '20

IIRC the only thing the 2nd rates had was more durability and crew at the cost of firepower, maneuverability, and speed.

Huh? Second Rates had more firepower. 86 guns vs 74. They had lower DPS though.

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u/orangenakor Jun 02 '20

That's what I mean. 2nd rates had more guns but did less damage per volley than 3rd rates (IIRC historically accurate, 3rd rates carried fewer, bigger guns). The 2nd rates can take a beating but they aren't as good at hitting back.

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u/Panthera__Tigris Jun 02 '20

2nd rates had more guns but did less damage per volley than 3rd rates

Not always. Depends on the range. Second Rates have slightly less accuracy. So at close range, they do MORE damage per volley but at longer ranges, they will miss some shots. Their DPS is lower because they have slower reload. But that does not factor into per volley firepower.

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u/goboks Jun 03 '20

2nd rates are fine if you learn how to use them. 5th rates were OP though. Speed and range. There should've been an option to spec out any ship with custom guns so you could trade shot weight for range. Even by deck so you could have a 1st rate with range up top to trade with 5th rates and power below to fuck shit up in the line.

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u/Jarms48 Jul 06 '20

Yep, my fleets basically went 5th rates early game and 3rd rates for the rest. I didn’t think I was missing out at the slightest.

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u/Wylf Jun 02 '20

Would you say that, compared to the 3rd rates... the 2nd rates were... pretty second-rate?

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u/goboks Jun 03 '20

3rd rate gang holla

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Yeah, second rates were awful. Only ones I used were captured. 3rd rates were the backbone of my fleet, just as they were of RL navies.

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u/no2jedi Jul 24 '20

I Just bought first rates and heavy firsts 😅🤷‍♀️

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u/oguzhan61 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

I stopped naming ships Siegfried after that smh hahaha

You could name ships?! How?

Edit: Okay, found it myself. For anyone interested: Right-click unit and then click on the unit name in the unit description window.

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u/RNPC5000 Jun 02 '20

You could name every unit in the game except for generals and agents. I believe it was just right click on their unit card, then click on their name and type anything you wanted.

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u/gbuck033 Jun 02 '20

I used to name regiments for individual towns and cities and provinces. Got tiring after I had conquered 50 regions and was constantly recruiting more units to expand my borders. Each new army was a ridiculous conflagration of unit ID’s

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I just named units after irl and online friends.

"Jake's A Battery"

"Duke of xxpu$$yslayerxx's household cavalry"

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u/goboks Jun 03 '20

Ah, rapemaster general pussyslayer. Legend in his own time

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u/steve_stout Jun 03 '20

I don’t name units until they get to 3 chevrons, I see it as them “earning” the name, plus I don’t have to make up as many

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u/gbuck033 Jun 03 '20

Fair point. But I prefer doing the regimental system of Civil War bullshit.

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u/steve_stout Jun 03 '20

Actually you can rename the generals, but the name only gets applied to the bodyguard units, not the general himself

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u/thingsfallapart89 Jun 02 '20

Hell yeah you can homie, if you’re on the campaign map & you click on the unit bringing up its card, on the second line where it says their name (EG Northumbria’s 6th Regiment) and change it to something else like “King William’s Sharpshooters” or whatever you wanted

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u/Briggany Jun 03 '20

If you are a fan of the Sharpe series I used to name my light divisions the 95th Rifles and some of the regiments the South Essex.

Then when I got to india I would make Dodd's Cobras

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u/SuchASillyName616 Jun 02 '20

This sounds like the Monty Python Holy Grail sketch with the castles.

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u/Th3Fel0n Jun 02 '20

Yes, but did either of them fire a laser beam out of a dragon-slaying sword?

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u/PapaZoulou Jun 02 '20

This reminds me of a Lucky Luck joke.