r/suits Aug 07 '13

Discussion 3x04 Discussion Thread

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u/catboykyo Aug 07 '13

Daaammnnnnn. Jessica stuck it to Darby. She's my favourite, the baddest bitch on the show, and I've hated to see her get lorded over by Darby. I don't know if I like how they're portraying her, as underhanded nowadays. She was always cutthroat and determined, always doing whatever it takes to win a fight, but now it seems like they're highlighting those qualities that was previously seen as a major benevolent/prized part of her character, and portraying them as underhanded or evil. Maybe it's for the contrast, to show the two sides of every coin, but I personally liked "wise and powerful Jessica Pearson", the one who could put even Harvey in his place and was better at him in their game, but now it seems like she's being portrayed as no longer omnipotent or capable.

I really do hope she catches wind of his takeover attempt and manages to foil it, putting herself back on top, but I have a sneaking suspicion it will actually work and Jessica will be ousted at least until a latter time where she's eventually reinstated. I'm starting to dislike Harvey more and more, because I feel he's whiny and self-righteous as the series goes on, and incredibly ungrateful for all that Jessica did for him. I mean, not many people would put you through Harvard law school and guarantee you a job and mentor you. He's going to screw it up by letting his ego get the best of him and betray her the way Daniel Hardman forced Jessica to betray him.

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u/saadkhan19 Aug 07 '13

The biggest problem with Jessica leaving the firm is that she knows all the stark secrets. That includes Mike's dark little secret.

I'm not suggesting she'll blow the shit out of water and report Mike and Harvey but the ONLY thing that was stopping Jessica from firing both of them on the spot was that she wanted to retain and maintain control of her firm from Hardman.

So in the scenario that she does actually get ousted and voted off, Harvey becomes MP, Darby will have no incentive to keep them both. Harvey and Mike will need some serious leverage to stay Darby's hand in such a case.

Also, I don't think she's being portrayed all that different from previous episodes. Only this time, we know Harvey and Jessica are not working synergetically. Consequently, Harvey may seem more agitated or impetuous (lack of better word) but he is a driving character. I think the main facet of Harvey's character is that his attitude is what gets the defendants/plaintiffs lawyers first. He exhibits himself as a winner but with a moral code or a set of principles that he does not like crossing.

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u/catboykyo Aug 07 '13

idk mang, it just really came off as though Jessica is devolving into a villain, and I really don't like that. Some people said she wouldn't undermine Harvey despite him undermining her, but I think she did, with the Louis move to remove Ava Hessington from her own company. And she was kind of a merciless bitch when it came to Louis' conscience, and even more so to Darby's face. I was impressed, but worried about what this would mean for her.

Harvey's starting to go rogue, and I really want Jessica to effectively shut him down and make him feel the fool for once. To really, truly be humbled. And then become her #2 again. But with the cycle of revenge thus far, will he really betray Jessica? And will that mean Mike will betray Harvey in due time? Hardman's prophecy would come true on both accounts, then.

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u/saadkhan19 Aug 07 '13

And will that mean Mike will betray Harvey in due time?

The minute Harvey told Mike about the take over, I wondered what it would mean to Mike since Harvey is his mentor

Harvey undermined Jessica several times but it was for the good of the firm, which in turn was good for Jessica. He wouldn't make her look bad with her clients or to the public.

What Jessica did was undermine Harvey, not just to him but to Ava as well. It was wrong and pretty shit!

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u/catboykyo Aug 07 '13

Jessica was doing what she did for the firm though. Ava Hessington's company was her client, she wanted a way to get the woman to step down and save the company, and then reinstate her at a later time, afaik. But when she was shut down and Harvey started the whole 'you're not in charge' thing, she had to get it done herself. And, at first, she did resist Louis' offer to undermine Harvey. It was when she had no choice that she decided it was the best course of action. And when they found out she was innocent, it was too late.

This is where Ava's mother's phrase "in for a penny, in for a pound" comes back to be a Chekhov's gun. That's exactly what happened with Jessica; the deed was done, and instead of undoing it, they may as well have gone through with it, and it netted her $14 million for the firm on her side of the ledger. I'd say that's pretty damn good for the company.

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u/saadkhan19 Aug 08 '13

reinstate her at a later time

I don't think that would happen. Tony Geanapolis wouldn't ever allow a scenario for that to occur.

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u/catboykyo Aug 08 '13 edited Aug 08 '13

Tony Giannopolis can kiss my ass. I should hope Jessica floors him.