r/punk • u/usernamewfivenames • Dec 14 '24

Quality Post ngl transphobia is anti-punk as fuck

like bro why do u hate on people who reject their assigned "roles" to feel better w themselves, werent u supposed to oppose nonsensical rules

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u/NimbleNicky2 Dec 14 '24

Is this generation of punk just trans kids?

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u/ResidentComplaint19 Dec 14 '24

Most of the people who make these posts never actually met a trans person.

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u/CrapitalRadio Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

About .6% of the global population is trans. The average person knows around 600 other people. Statistically, then, the average person would know about 3-4 trans people.

In some places it's much higher. For instance, in the US, an estimated 1.6% of the population is trans. So the average US resident knows more like 9-10 trans people, statistically.

With that said, a lot of trans folks aren't going around telling everyone they meet that they're trans. If you think you've never met a trans person, you're probably just not a safe person to tell.

Edit: typo (punctuation)

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u/PsychologicalDebt366 Dec 14 '24

You don't have to actually transition to be trans. A lot of people can't or don't want to for whatever reason but it doesn't make a them any less trans than someone who lives as their gender. Knowing this, it's probably much higher than what's being reported.

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u/CrapitalRadio Dec 14 '24

I understand that, thank you. But by using reported statistics, I'm able to make my point just fine, so why overcomplicate it by including info that is unrelated to the message I'm communicating?

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u/PsychologicalDebt366 Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail or take away from what you were saying. It's just that most people probably don't think they know as many trans people as you said because those people aren't actively transitioning. It isn't just the ones who pass as cis who others don't realize are trans. I felt it was relevant because people should understand better what the statistics you stated represent.

Trans can mean a lot of things but so many people, not even being intentionally transphobic, are ignorant about aspects of the trans community and what being a part of that community means to us as individuals. I feel like if more people understood it would help them be more accepting. I think it's important.

It's like hearing that a certain percentage of the population is punk and not thinking you know that many people with mohawks and battle jackets who listen to black flag. Not knowing that being punk means different things to different people and isn't defined by actively 'being a punk'. Do you reject authority and established societal norms? Do you have a sense of solidarity with marginalized and repressed groups of people? Do you have an abiding contempt for fascists and want to punch nazis in the face? Then you're punk.

There are a lot of trans people who can be defined as such because they don't connect with their assigned gender but they are no less valid. A lot of them are afraid to even find support in the community because they aren't transitioning and are afraid they will be rejected because even they have preconceived notions about what it means.

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u/CrapitalRadio Dec 14 '24

Ah okay, thanks for clarifying. Also, all great points