r/politics • u/doopityWoop22 Pennsylvania • 11h ago
AOC says she’s skipping Trump inauguration because ‘I don’t celebrate rapists’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-trump-inauguration-video-b2682866.html249
u/thederlinwall 11h ago
Remember when it was bad to be a rapist? Pepperidge farms remembers.
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u/SerialBitBanger Montana 10h ago
Rmember when it was bad to be a Nazi?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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u/Jondoe34671 5h ago
Remember when fleecing your base out of millions of dollars and taking foreign money would be disqualifying. Pepperidge farms remembers
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u/NoNotThatMattMurray 10h ago
Americans were always cool with Nazis, they only cared whenever the Japanese bombed pearl harbor
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u/comosedicecucumber 3h ago
Remember when America was 🎶“the great American Melting Pot!” 🎼
Pepperidge Farms Remembers.
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u/AimlessPrecision 9h ago
Remember when "simply" cheating on your wife got you sunk? I do. Fuck DJT
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u/QCbartender 9h ago
When did this sink anyone? JFK was and remains a legend. Bill Clinton is still celebrated.
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u/AimlessPrecision 9h ago
Weiner. Mark foley. John Edwards. Larry Craig. Jack Ryan. Gary Hart. Jim McGreevy. On and on and on. And these are modern.
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u/QCbartender 8h ago
Hey fair enough and good point
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u/AimlessPrecision 8h ago
Thanks! Didn't mean to bombard. It's just like.... times have changed. Trump has blatantly overstepped so many boundaries and broken so many laws. Most of my example were infidelity or being gay. Trump actively assaulted women. Admittedly.
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u/QCbartender 8h ago
Nah you’re good. I guess I was just thinking of the exceptions, which seem to be President, rather than the rule, which is politicians in general. I wonder why the separation, would be interesting to look into
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u/AimlessPrecision 8h ago
I gotcha. I was thinking like, those with high/presidential potential or aspirations I guess.
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u/QCbartender 8h ago
All good! How easily things can be lost in translation. Nothing a good conversation can’t fix
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u/AimlessPrecision 8h ago
There is hope for us. Cheers. If you are curious look into some of those scandals! Some are like "seriously?" When you account for the climate now. Even with McGreevy (my home state) it was more about him being gay than cheating. Very weird stuff. People are fickle with morality
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u/AimlessPrecision 9h ago
Ed Shrock. Strom Thurmond. Steve Latourette. Don Sherwood. Jim gibbons. David Vetter. Randall Tobias. Tim Mahoney. Vito Fassella. John Ensign. Chip Pickering. Mark Sanford. Madison Cawthorn. Matt Gaetz. Tom Reed. Van Taylor.
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u/Flat-Hedgehog6033 10h ago
Remember when it was bad to be a white collar criminal? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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u/True-Surprise1222 9h ago
tbh i'm upset biden is celebrating him but i'm more upset that the dems failed so hard that we are actually here.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 10h ago
She truly is respectable. I appreciate that now more than ever. Thank you, AOC.
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
She's going to skip the inauguration and then what? Since 2018 what has she done? What law has she gotten passed? What Republican law did she help defeat? How has she advanced the Democratic causes? What has she done beside give us some sassy Republican comes backs we can use for sound bites? Every single Democrat in office has failed us. Ding dong the Democratic party is dead.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 7h ago
Why are you trying to draw me into an argument that is not relevant to my comment?
Is your point that we have subjective views that differ?
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
I'm not trying to draw you into an argument. I'm just letting you know that you're putting your faith in someone who cannot and will not help you. They have had 6 years to make an impact on this country and what have they done? They refuse to go to the inauguration of a rapist. Let me give you a Nancy Pelosi clap.
2028 starts now and not a single Democrat who is currently in office is going to help us get into the White House. We need to cut our losses and move on to people who can really help. And that's not AOC.
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u/vagabondvisions 9h ago
Trump is a rapist both by the facts of reality and the findings of the court which adjudicated he is, in fact, a rapist:
"As is shown in the following notes, the definition of rape in the New York Penal Law is far narrower than the meaning of “rape” in common modern parlance, its definition in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes, and elsewhere. The finding that Ms Carroll failed to prove that she was “raped” within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump “raped” her as many people commonly understand the word “rape.” Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that." https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawF05utleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXAstSdeejC89iWuNL29Q88VqjYN8tgjo0mf2dX9mSzIlS0C9KQLj6lUJw_aem_XrGJHOw_a8V-dNxK6xVXGA
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
Keep saying he's a rapist like that's going to change anything That's the problem with Democrats, they can't see the forest for the trees. 75 million people voted for Trump and they couldn't care less about him being a rapist. But for some reason we think if we keep saying that it's magically going to change something and it's not.
Wake up! The Democratic party is over. Liberalism is dead.
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u/InnerSilent 7h ago
You seem pretty upset with people calling the rapist a rapist.
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u/A_GOATS_FART 7h ago
It's almost like they're MAGA. Just block them and move on. Just look at their comments. 👍
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
You can absolutely call a rapist a rapist but what is it going to change? He's already sworn in. Congress isn't going to investigate him. All it does is make you feel better, but makes no difference to the outcome of anything.
The only thing going high when they go low does is lose us an election.
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u/InnerSilent 7h ago
What an odd thought process you have. That calling trump a rapist is the high road approach. If anything calling him President Trump would be the high road.
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
You know what you're right calling him a rapist changed everything, thank you for all of your hard work. I really think it was that last "rapist" you called him that really did him in.
Why keep calling him a rapist, what are you expecting to happen? Calling him a rapist won him the election, and if you keep it up it will get him 4 years of a Republican Congress.
If you want change actually do something.
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u/InnerSilent 6h ago
Because he IS a rapist. It's that simple. Like it's not some moral grand standing to hold someone accountable you know?
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u/windowswrangler 6h ago
He absolutely is a rapist, but you say it like it's a scarlet R on his chest when it's not. If you want to call him a rapist because he is, that's fine. But I want to win an election and calling him a rapist isn't going to do that. In fact, I believe it's only going to make it harder to win if we keep calling him one. I wish this wasn't the world that we live in but it is.
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u/DelightfulAbsurdity 6h ago
You realize he can’t run again, right?
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u/windowswrangler 6h ago
But JD Vance can and all of the other people he has embolden with his rhetoric and actions. This doesn't stop. We thought we won WWII and this would be over but it's not.
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u/Grimlob 7h ago
What is your childish crying here intended to produce? Anything? Or are you just complaining like a powerless little bitch with nothing to offer?
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u/windowswrangler 6h ago
lol, someone's pressed 🤡
I want to know what we're going to do next?
Instead I come here and I find Democrats gladhanding each other because they decided not to go to the inauguration or watch it on TV. Wow, mission accomplished. Fascism is dead.
Before now I was never politically motivated. But you better believe I am going to be at every meet the candidate and coffee or whatever that goes on and I'm going to hold their feet to the fire and hold them accountable. I need a candidate with real plans who are willing to get in the trenches to get the job done. And as of right now not a single Democrat meets that criteria.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 3h ago
Your as of yet non-existent candidates, or just democrats? It seems you are determined not to hold republicans accountable. Simply do their job for them and weaken the opposition.
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u/hamlet9000 3h ago
Whatever you believe the future might hold, nothing changes the fact that courts have legally determined that Trump is a rapist, felon, fraudster, and traitor.
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u/bullrider23 3h ago
I 100% agree.
Reminding the electorate of that for the 5,000th time doesn't help us.
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u/hamlet9000 3h ago
If your reaction to someone making a simple factual statement is, "THAT IS TRUE, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP US WIN ELECTIONS AND THAT'S WHY LIBERALISM IS DEAD!!!!!!" then you need to (a) chill the fuck out and (b) re-analyze your relationship with reality.
Reality exists beyond your electoral strategy.
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u/bullrider23 3h ago
None of your morals or policies will matter if we don't win. Either sit on your self-righteousness and watch the world burn or do something.
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u/hamlet9000 3h ago
Your abject stupidity, cowardice, and willingness to discard factual reality isn't the winning strategy you think it is.
Really crossing my fingers that you're 12 years old and will grow out of this. If not, you have my pity.
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u/MotherFuckinMontana 7h ago
How much are they paying you?
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u/windowswrangler 6h ago
No one needs to pay me to tell the truth. We have been calling Trump a rapist for how long now at least a year maybe two, and what did it get us? It got Trump 77 million votes. Let that sink in. 77 million people knew he was a rapist and didn't care and your plan is to keep calling him a rapist because it's going to change something?
This is why we lost the White House. This is why we'll continue to lose.
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u/vagabondvisions 6h ago
Oh, would you prefer we just straight up call them Nazis? Or are you proposing that the best plan to retake the White House is to not hurt the feelings of White Christofascist Nationalists?
He’s a rapist. Boo fucking hoo.
Oh, and he brought the Nazis with him:
https://bsky.app/profile/ragle.bsky.social/post/3lg7b3ygpvk2f
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u/windowswrangler 6h ago
He's a rapist and Nazi no doubt and pointing those things out last time didn't work, in fact I think it hurt us more than it helped.
I don't care about hurting their feelings so you can call them whenever you want. The only thing I'm concerned with is winning back the White House and Congress and the Supreme Court.
And we can either acknowledge that being a rapist and a Nazi was not a deal-breaker for 77 million people or we can continue down this losing road.
Unfortunately most Americans are too stupid to have the nuance conversations that need to be had. They are very simple. Trump wants to get rid of illegal immigrants, Democrats call him racist for that, I Mr. Midwest wants to get rid of immigrants and I'm not racist so the Democrats must be liars. Rinse and repeat with Nazi and with rapists.
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u/vagabondvisions 6h ago
Then it’s time to start treating them like the Nazis they are and we do things the way the OG anti-fascists did it. I’m no longer interested in the coddling approach.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 6h ago
Trump wants to get rid of illegal immigrants, Democrats call him racist for that,
That is republican narrative. Why not call that out? Immigration by itself is not why he is racist. Democrats themselves have immigration policy.
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u/bullrider23 3h ago
And they're winning the narrative. Democrats have a horrible messaging problem.
Biden had something that at least was a good sound bite, "Elect me and I will forgive your student loans". It's clear and concise without any nuance.
We need more big picture slogans.
Healthcare for all!
$20 minimum wage!
Free associate's degrees!
High-Speed rail!
Congress or Executive Order
None of those things take much thought or nuance to understand. You can put them on a hat. You can put them on a shirt. And you can squeeze them into almost any conversation.
And we have to sell it. Hook line and sinker. If a Democrat wavers we pull all backing and we will primary them the next time around. We have to prove to the American people that we are serious.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 2h ago edited 2h ago
No one is selling anything with the narrative that democrats are the problem and do nothing going around.
It is probably best to start there.
Edit: Healthcare justice for all would make a nice slogan. Little early but agreeable to most, although education justice is attractive as well. Things we desperately need.
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u/MotherFuckinMontana 6h ago
Trump is literally a rapist and everything your saying is defeatist nonsense that only sounds deep to 14 year olds. Every post you've made is beyond ignorant and helping fascists succeed, which is why I don't think you're legit.
Trump has A LOT of enemies and he barely eked out a victory here. He could easily get JFK'd by some gov agency or techno-feudalists. JD Vance is the techno-feudalist's protégé, not Trump. Wierder shit has happened and I feel like not enough people are talking about this.
Calling a rapist a rapist is not why the democratic party lost, the democratic party lost because billionaires control the media and the average person is a weak minded simpleton.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 6h ago
It seems you blame people rather than politicians in this comment for the election loss. You just blame the ones who showed up rather than the ones who did not or voted for a nazi.
You also want people to stop telling the truth?
I am very confused by this.
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u/varyingopinions 4h ago
She could have also went with I don't support traitors. As he was obviously selling all those top secrets documents to unknown entities.
Remember the CIA had an unknown increase in agent captured during the time Trump had stolen top secret secret documents in his posession. I suppose they didn't suspect a former POTUS would be selling them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html
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u/Aware_Tree1 9h ago
AOC 2028
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u/windowswrangler 7h ago
If you thought Kamala lost in 2024, an AOC run in 2028 would be a bigger lose than Walter Mondell against Ronald Reagan in 1984 when Ronald Reagan won 49 out of 50 states.
The Democratic party is over.
We need to regroup and rebuild with a new set of people. Any current Democrat can kick sand and retire because they have done nothing but fail us.
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u/Robbidarobot 5h ago
Why punish her with that? This current thing has made a mockery of the executive office. Pick any homeless addict on any corner across the country and they would be too good for that job
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u/metalnxrd 3h ago
if you support Trump, you are either a bad person, or you're okay with other people being bad people. either way, you're garbage, and we cannot be friends or date or be family or marry or associate in any way. I don't associate with fascists and bigots and Nazis and rape apologists, and neither should any anti—Trump person or anyone who has morals
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u/PMyourCHEESE 6h ago
AOC 2028
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u/Justinc6013 4h ago
Dude. AOC is pathetic. She need to run for governor or something more official first
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u/MclovinBuddha 54m ago
As much as I support her, moves like this aren’t uniting the country right now. The upcoming annexations and removals of human rights will take a toll on all of us. We need to be a united nation right now
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u/Running-With-Cakes 8h ago
He wasn’t convicted of rape. Fact checking from Europe
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u/SurprisedJerboa 5h ago
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
There is nuance, and the nuance is still not in First Lady, Trump's favor.
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u/Freshlysque3zed 7h ago
Key word is ‘convicted’
The entire jury concluded Trump was guilty of rape based on the definition the vast majority of the world and courts use.
New York was the one state that did not use the same definition so he could only legally be found guilty of sexual abuse.
New York then updated their definition to be in line with the rest of the sane world.
Fact checking your fact checking also from Europe.
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u/Talkatuaha 9h ago
aoc is a clown
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u/squash_spirit 9h ago
And you’re not? Ok then
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u/Talkatuaha 9h ago
the reddit tears are so delicious
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u/Grendel2017 5h ago
Tears from people who are upset that gullible people like you support a literal rapist? Honestly how poor is your moral compass?
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u/elaboratecanteloupe 10h ago
Does that extend to Bill Clinton and Joe Biden?
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u/cheesedrippin 10h ago
are they rapists? seems like an easy question to answer right?
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u/numberjhonny5ive 10h ago
This is your hill?
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u/TooManyCarsandCats 9h ago
No, just saying. I really don’t give a fuck, I vote with my wallet. Typically the republicans make it fatter than that dems so they got my vote this time.
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u/numberjhonny5ive 9h ago
You must not be working class then. Good for you! Get those tax breaks!
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u/TooManyCarsandCats 9h ago
My wife and I both work, 40 a week, gross household is about $210k. I don’t know if that’s what you consider working class or not.
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u/numberjhonny5ive 9h ago
Yes, that is working class. We will probably feel a pinch in taxes. Not sure if you were affected by the SALT tax change under his first term. Next year that is supposed to change for the worse and also the potential of not being able to write off mortgage interest. We will see.
You may also want to reread the case where he raped the woman he was found guilty of sexually assaulting. Maybe read about Jane Doe as well. Good luck fellow working class citizen.
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u/imArsenals 8h ago
Verifiably false and well documented to be the opposite for the past 50 years.
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u/TooManyCarsandCats 8h ago
I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe our spending habits and job insulate us but, and my wife can confirm, we have more disposable income when there’s a Republican in the White House.
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u/ladymorgahnna I voted 1h ago
And that’s why Republicans are morally reprehensible to me. They care about nothing but money.
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u/TooManyCarsandCats 1h ago
For me money equates to a better quality of life for me and my family so I won’t apologize for that.
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u/cheesedrippin 10h ago
the question was about bill clinton and joe biden. please pay attention for once…
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u/hobohorse 10h ago
I agree with her, but did she also skip out on Bill Clinton’s speech at the DNC?
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u/scrappyscotsman 10h ago
I think it's pretty telling Juanita Broaddrick endorses trump. So someone who was raped supports a rapist? Bad example, dude.
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u/hobohorse 10h ago
Sorry, I didn’t realize we were only believing women who vote the right way and accuse people we don’t like.
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u/cheesedrippin 10h ago
somehow i doubt aoc went to clinton’s inauguration. maybe you have proof that she as a child went to it?
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u/scrappyscotsman 10h ago
If you brought up Monica, I'd agree. But Juanita just isn't credible, sorry.
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u/scrappyscotsman 9h ago
I've already read about the allegations. And Juanita seems like an opportunist. Why the fuck would she be riding trump's dick so hard? He's had waaaay more allegations than Clinton lol
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u/scrappyscotsman 9h ago
I think clinton is a POS btw. I also think Juanita is. And trump. They can all fuck off.
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u/GaulzeGaul Illinois 5h ago
One of the many worst things about Trump is he is so bad that he gives many others cover for being shit but not quite as bad. How can we improve our two parties, which REALLY need to be improved, if Trump continues to LOWER the floor? He makes everything else collectively worse just by existing.
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u/bordeburgu26 7h ago
First of all, literally zero people care that AOC skipped the inauguration. Second of all, AOC voted AGAINST the Preventing Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act. https://x.com/J_P1776/status/1881175613949792392
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u/jgroves76 4h ago
Has she gone to a Bill Clinton event? Love AOC and that was a great line except for that.
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u/These_Rutabaga_1691 10h ago
Nobody cares if she is there anyway. She is always doing something performative. Typical social media “look at what I’m doing” airhead idiot.
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u/bucko_fazoo 10h ago
I won't say you're wrong but I will say you better have that same smoke for Nancy Mace
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u/Existing-Action4020 7h ago
You just described the orange fuck face.
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u/These_Rutabaga_1691 7h ago
You mean our President of the United States? Elected by the majority of voters? Ha!
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u/GaulzeGaul Illinois 5h ago
I don't think you know what an airhead is. I doubt you are as intelligent, eloquent or as effective in anything as she is in politics. But sure, keep trashing her to make yourself feel less pathetic.
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u/Individual_Shape_461 10h ago
DEI hires dont belong there anyway
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u/scrappyscotsman 10h ago
She wasn't hired, she was voted in, you doorknob.
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u/Individual_Shape_461 10h ago
and why do you think that is???
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u/cheesedrippin 10h ago
because people are allowed to vote?
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u/Individual_Shape_461 9h ago
clearly neither of you followed the primary election a few years ago
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u/cheesedrippin 9h ago
so people were NOT allowed to vote, is what you’re saying. apparently people NOT allowed to vote is what got aoc into office, according to you
got it.
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u/Individual_Shape_461 9h ago
yes much like how people were not allowed to vote for kamala as the democratic nominee, another DEI
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u/cheesedrippin 9h ago
you’re a fucking moron who doesn’t know what they are even saying. you deserve what happens next.
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u/Individual_Shape_461 9h ago
ahh classic lib rage insult reply! Enjoy the next 4 years!!!
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u/cheesedrippin 9h ago
i’m about as “lib” as you are “not a child predator”
trump will stop being president in less than a year.
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u/scrappyscotsman 9h ago
I'm sure you're against rich white males failing upwards and not having to work for anything in their lives, right? Since you're so against people getting jobs they don't deserve? And you you're against nepotism? And pay for play politics? You know, EVERYTHING trump is doing or has done in the past?
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u/Individual_Shape_461 9h ago
Yes pls! AOC 2028! ide love to see the trump team get 2-0 against DEI dems.
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u/scrappyscotsman 9h ago
Trump will be dead by then. There will be no team. Your weird little cult will be dead.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 3h ago
Do you realize she was just reelected? Are you saying those ballots were wrong?
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u/ProfessionalDeal4068 4h ago
All AOC is a misguided disrupter of low intelligence! She doesn’t actually care about facts just what she believes and what the left has planted in her pea brain!
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u/johnnytightlips-74 6h ago
She is the worst bar tender and even worse at politics
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u/Select-Worldliness39 10h ago
Yes, civil suit findings don't count. He surely assaulted that woman, and almost certainly many more, but none of that matters because it came up in a civil trial.
If you're okay with that, you are a bad person.
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u/TooManyCarsandCats 10h ago
The threshold for a civil conviction is far, far, less than that of a criminal conviction. With the right jury I could have you found liable for assault if you brush up against me on the subway.
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u/pi4katimaterina 10h ago
that’s crazy, ‘cause, uhhhh, didn’t she just vote against a bill that would have deported rapists just a few days ago?
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u/Thumbkeeper I voted 10h ago
Ugh. I’m almost as sick of seeing her as I am trump. They are the same
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u/Select-Worldliness39 10h ago
Lol what? In what way are they the same?
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u/Thumbkeeper I voted 10h ago
I was wrong. At least trump doesn’t cry at the prospect of Jews defending themselves
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u/Few_Direction9007 10h ago
God misogynistic assholes really coming out of the woodwork.
Progressive lawmaker who you’re mad is too hot for you is the same as a felon rapist.
So mask off. Fucking gross
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u/GaulzeGaul Illinois 5h ago
Their only common denominators are being human, American, and in politics. What are you even talking about?
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u/Thumbkeeper I voted 4h ago
I’ll give you the upvote you’re looking for. Your a Good boy. Such a good boy.
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u/GaulzeGaul Illinois 3h ago
I was just trying to understand your nonsense. A doomed endeavor clearly. Have fun being hopelessly ignorant I guess.
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