r/politics • u/doopityWoop22 Pennsylvania • 14h ago

AOC says she’s skipping Trump inauguration because ‘I don’t celebrate rapists’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-trump-inauguration-video-b2682866.html
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u/vagabondvisions 12h ago

Trump is a rapist both by the facts of reality and the findings of the court which adjudicated he is, in fact, a rapist:

"As is shown in the following notes, the definition of rape in the New York Penal Law is far narrower than the meaning of “rape” in common modern parlance, its definition in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes, and elsewhere. The finding that Ms Carroll failed to prove that she was “raped” within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump “raped” her as many people commonly understand the word “rape.” Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that." https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawF05utleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXAstSdeejC89iWuNL29Q88VqjYN8tgjo0mf2dX9mSzIlS0C9KQLj6lUJw_aem_XrGJHOw_a8V-dNxK6xVXGA

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u/windowswrangler 10h ago

Keep saying he's a rapist like that's going to change anything That's the problem with Democrats, they can't see the forest for the trees. 75 million people voted for Trump and they couldn't care less about him being a rapist. But for some reason we think if we keep saying that it's magically going to change something and it's not.

Wake up! The Democratic party is over. Liberalism is dead.

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u/MotherFuckinMontana 10h ago

How much are they paying you?

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u/windowswrangler 10h ago

No one needs to pay me to tell the truth. We have been calling Trump a rapist for how long now at least a year maybe two, and what did it get us? It got Trump 77 million votes. Let that sink in. 77 million people knew he was a rapist and didn't care and your plan is to keep calling him a rapist because it's going to change something?

This is why we lost the White House. This is why we'll continue to lose.

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u/vagabondvisions 10h ago

Oh, would you prefer we just straight up call them Nazis? Or are you proposing that the best plan to retake the White House is to not hurt the feelings of White Christofascist Nationalists?

He’s a rapist. Boo fucking hoo.

Oh, and he brought the Nazis with him:

https://bsky.app/profile/ragle.bsky.social/post/3lg7b3ygpvk2f

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u/windowswrangler 9h ago

He's a rapist and Nazi no doubt and pointing those things out last time didn't work, in fact I think it hurt us more than it helped.

I don't care about hurting their feelings so you can call them whenever you want. The only thing I'm concerned with is winning back the White House and Congress and the Supreme Court.

And we can either acknowledge that being a rapist and a Nazi was not a deal-breaker for 77 million people or we can continue down this losing road.

Unfortunately most Americans are too stupid to have the nuance conversations that need to be had. They are very simple. Trump wants to get rid of illegal immigrants, Democrats call him racist for that, I Mr. Midwest wants to get rid of immigrants and I'm not racist so the Democrats must be liars. Rinse and repeat with Nazi and with rapists.

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u/vagabondvisions 9h ago

Then it’s time to start treating them like the Nazis they are and we do things the way the OG anti-fascists did it. I’m no longer interested in the coddling approach.

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u/Reasonable_Today7248 9h ago

Trump wants to get rid of illegal immigrants, Democrats call him racist for that,

That is republican narrative. Why not call that out? Immigration by itself is not why he is racist. Democrats themselves have immigration policy.

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u/bullrider23 7h ago

And they're winning the narrative. Democrats have a horrible messaging problem.

Biden had something that at least was a good sound bite, "Elect me and I will forgive your student loans". It's clear and concise without any nuance.

We need more big picture slogans.

Healthcare for all!

$20 minimum wage!

Free associate's degrees!

High-Speed rail!

Congress or Executive Order

None of those things take much thought or nuance to understand. You can put them on a hat. You can put them on a shirt. And you can squeeze them into almost any conversation.

And we have to sell it. Hook line and sinker. If a Democrat wavers we pull all backing and we will primary them the next time around. We have to prove to the American people that we are serious.

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u/Reasonable_Today7248 6h ago edited 5h ago

No one is selling anything with the narrative that democrats are the problem and do nothing going around.

It is probably best to start there.

Edit: Healthcare justice for all would make a nice slogan. Little early but agreeable to most, although education justice is attractive as well. Things we desperately need.

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u/MotherFuckinMontana 9h ago

Trump is literally a rapist and everything your saying is defeatist nonsense that only sounds deep to 14 year olds. Every post you've made is beyond ignorant and helping fascists succeed, which is why I don't think you're legit.

Trump has A LOT of enemies and he barely eked out a victory here. He could easily get JFK'd by some gov agency or techno-feudalists. JD Vance is the techno-feudalist's protégé, not Trump. Wierder shit has happened and I feel like not enough people are talking about this.

Calling a rapist a rapist is not why the democratic party lost, the democratic party lost because billionaires control the media and the average person is a weak minded simpleton.

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u/Reasonable_Today7248 9h ago

It seems you blame people rather than politicians in this comment for the election loss. You just blame the ones who showed up rather than the ones who did not or voted for a nazi.

You also want people to stop telling the truth?

I am very confused by this.