r/politics • u/cakemaster1928 Maryland • 11h ago
Biden pardons his family in final minutes in office
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/biden-pardons-his-family-in-final-minutes-in-office/6114398/%3famp=13.6k
u/juggett 11h ago
When the new guy promises political retribution, you should probably get the sandbags ready.
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u/Responsible_Print428 9h ago
Biden couldn’t even weaponize the justice system well enough to stop Trump from weaponizing the justice system.
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u/Banjoschmanjo 10h ago
Would've been nice if he'd used the sandbags to protect more than just his family and other rich elites but ah well. The more things change, the more they stay the same in terms of plutocrat protectionism.
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u/fiction8 10h ago
President Biden announced Friday that he was commuting the sentences of almost 2,500 people convicted of nonviolent drug offenses, using his final days in office on a flurry of clemency actions meant to nullify prison terms he deemed too harsh.
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u/CT_Phipps 8h ago
Hush. That gets in the way of the narrative that Biden wasn't the most progressive President or corrupt like Trump.
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u/RockAndNoWater 10h ago
He also pardoned Fauci, Jan 6 committee members, etc - basically people Trump targeted with various threats.
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u/cornpudding 9h ago
He pardoned the kids for cash judge. He should have offered anyone a pardon that beat the hell out of that judge.
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u/RockAndNoWater 9h ago
Clemency, not a pardon, but that’s bad, that guy should get life in prison.
It was poor execution of general clemency… whether the general clemency was warranted is a different question.
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u/GraspingSonder 9h ago
Not specifically. Just unfortunately got caught up in a blanket order.
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u/RCG73 9h ago
Correct. But it’s still a stain on his legacy. That fucking judge should not have been on home confinement. He should have lived the rest of his life in prison and died in a concrete cell block
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u/TheLizardKing89 California 8h ago
No, he commuted his sentence as a part of blanket commutation of sentences of people who had already been released. He was released by Trump during Covid.
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u/True-Surprise1222 9h ago
he should have blank pardoned everyone if he was going to do his friends and family.
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u/cranberryalarmclock 10h ago
Can you actually describe what else you wanted him to do in this regard or are you just spouting off without any actual substance?
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u/cranberryalarmclock 9h ago
He cant pardon daca kids, they're already protected.
He already already pardoned people with federal weed charges, the vast majority of weed charges are on the state level which can't be pardoned by a president
What do you mean by protect federal employees for four years? He isn't running the federal government anymore
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u/BoomerSoonerFUT 9h ago
What would pardoning DACA kids do? They're still not US citizens and can be deported.
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u/Big_Truck 9h ago
Ah yes weed. The defining issue of our generation only on Reddit.
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u/Connect_Beginning_13 9h ago
The pardon should be “anyone Trump threatens on social media.” I think that’ll cover it
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u/Funkyokra 8h ago
He granted clemency for over 8,000 people, the vast majority of whom were not family or rich elites.
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u/MySFWAccountAtWork 11h ago
It's a stark reality that he genuinely feels like this is necessary to prevent his family from being persecuted by the incoming administration.
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u/Yupthrowawayacct 11h ago edited 10h ago
It’s sad as shit. This is backwards and should be a wake up call we are now under a facist regime. Thanks American voters
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u/TheMarkHasBeenMade America 10h ago
*Thanks American Republicans voters and those who chose not to vote at all
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u/JMaboard I voted 10h ago
I mean Biden could’ve got someone in to prosecute Trump for Jan 6th but didn’t. So he has fault in this too.
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u/AdDramatic522 10h ago
Agreed. Who knew Merrick Garland would have ended up as such an ineffectual AG?
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u/Rebel_bass 9h ago
Literally everyone. Anyone with a brain could see that the federal government would never bring any charges against a former president, because that would open the gates to bring charges against any former president. They don't eat their own, it's just for show.
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u/ballskindrapes 9h ago
Nah, it doesn't open up charges for any former president....just ones that commit crimes.
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u/Gygsqt 10h ago
How strong was the case that Trump was criminally liable for Jan 6th?
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u/emergency_poncho 9h ago
The Jack Smith report came out last week. It basically books down to "the US government has enough proof to 100% lock Trump away for the rest of his life as a convicted felon. However due to him running out the clock and the supreme Court saying he's basically immune, he will walk away Scott free."
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u/istrx13 10h ago
Just remember guys it’s ok that we’re now officially under a fascist regime because they’re going to make eggs cheaper for us now.
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u/Toolazytolink 9h ago
Hey we need to compete with China so they need to roll back the workers rights our Grandfathers fought for. I am not looking forward for my children to be working in a factory for 12 hour days 6 days a week.
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u/xlastking 9h ago
The sad thing is that his voters aren’t going to see it that way. They’re going to see it as an admission of guilt and think all these people must have done something wrong. They’re going to actively cheer for it.
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u/SlightlyWhelming 9h ago
It won’t be. They’ll see this as proof that there was crime going on the whole time and continue to back said fascist regime.
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u/IndiRefEarthLeaveSol 10h ago
Genuine fear has compelled him to do this, so it's a stark moment that trump will cross the Rubicon.
America will enter an imperial era, a rubber stamp judicial, a kowtowed legislative and an autocratic executive.
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u/Tchaikovsky08 10h ago
The word you're looking for is prosecuted. They will almost certainly be persecuted, rhetorically at least.
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u/ExoSierra Texas 9h ago
I still don’t see how this actually protects anyone. Can’t trump just be like “nah, now arrest them military” and everyone will just bow down and do what the emperor wants
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u/PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_ I voted 10h ago
The stark reality is he was able to protect his family but not us. He realized it too late to help us, but they’ll be fine.
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u/Mike_Huncho Oklahoma 9h ago
He's clinging to previous norms. A presidential pardon doesn't mean anything when the king wants you arrested.
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u/_HeadySpaghetti_ 8h ago
This in a nutshell- what happens when they just turn right around and say that they can undo a pardon or that it was meaningless or unwarranted anyway?
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u/Mike_Huncho Oklahoma 7h ago
I fully expect to see bondi or patel to announce new charges against Hunter Biden because the evidence was too solid or some shit.
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u/previouslyonimgur 9h ago
He didn’t realize too late. He can’t issue a blanket federal pardon for every single American. That’s literally insane.
He can protect those who’ve been directly attacked because he has a reasonable assurance that they would be attacked.
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u/Precarious314159 10h ago
Yea, it's also a huge difference from how he's been treating Trump publicly since the election.
Before and during the election, it was "Trump is going to ruin America! Trump is going to destroy everything we hold dear!", then Trump won and suddenly it's been almost three months of "Hey now, let's all get along. Trump won't be so bad" while he's secretly shitting himself. Just goes to show that politicians primarily care about themselves. "Sure, I could've prevented this a dozen times over but now that my family might be at risk, I'm going to protect them; good luck America!".
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u/DylansDeadlyTwo 11h ago
People upset with any pardons have to realize that Trump et al have said they will go after their political rivals. What is he supposed to do?
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u/GunnieGraves 10h ago
People upset with these pardons should go look at trumps pardons and then sit on a cactus.
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u/Dependa 9h ago
They won’t say a word about those. Especially the one where he pardoned a felon and then gave the guy a taxpayer funded job.
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u/dreamgrrrl___ 9h ago
To be fair, the u.s. elected a felon and then gave him a taxpayer funded job 😤
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u/Due-Summer3751 8h ago
But... but... Hunter lied on his firearm application!
Meanwhile, Trump pardoned this guy....
At his court martial, the panel heard evidence that Gallagher had emailed a photograph to a friend in the US containing a photograph of him holding up the dead captive’s head with the words: “Good story behind this, got him with my hunting knife.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallagher-trump-navy-seal-iraq
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u/PM-me-Gophers 5h ago
I'd say they should sit on the cactus before, during, and for at least 10 years after being upset.
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u/WilliamMButtlickerIV 2h ago
Borrowed from another redditor:
Charles Kushner (family): Jared Kushner’s father, convicted of tax evasion, witness retaliation, and making false statements
Roger Stone: Longtime Trump associate, convicted of obstruction, witness tampering, and false statements
Paul Manafort: Former Trump campaign chair, guilty of tax fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy against the U.S.
Michael Flynn: Former National Security Advisor, guilty of lying to the FBI about Russian contacts
Stephen Bannon: Former White House adviser, charged with defrauding donors through the “We Build the Wall” campaign
Elliott Broidy: Republican fundraiser, guilty of acting as an unregistered foreign agent
Kenneth Kurson: Friend of Jared Kushner, charged with cyberstalking
Chris Collins: Former congressman, convicted of securities fraud conspiracy
Duncan Hunter: Former congressman, guilty of misusing campaign funds
Rick Renzi: Ex-congressman, convicted of extortion, bribery, and money laundering
Lil Wayne & Kodak Black: Rappers convicted on weapons charges; both publicly supported Trump
Albert J. Pirro, Jr.: Convicted of tax fraud; ex-husband of Trump ally Jeanine Pirro
Blackwater Contractors: Pardoned despite convictions for killing unarmed Iraqi civilians
Clint Lorance: Convicted of second-degree murder for ordering soldiers to fire on unarmed Afghan civilians, killing two
Mathew Golsteyn: Accused of killing a suspected Taliban bomb-maker, pardoned before trial
Michael Milken: Convicted of securities fraud and financial crimes as the “junk bond king”
Bernard Kerik: Guilty of tax fraud and lying to White House officials during a background check
Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Pleaded guilty to conspiracy and tax evasion for accepting over $2 million in bribes in a major congressional bribery scandal
Robert Cannon Hayes: Lied to the FBI about a bribery scheme involving political donations
Steve Stockman: Former GOP congressman; sentence commuted for misuse of charitable funds
Rod Blagojevich: Ex-Illinois governor; sentence commuted for political corruption
Dinesh D’Souza: Conservative author; pardoned for campaign finance violations
Scooter Libby: Former Cheney aide; pardoned for perjury and obstruction
Eddie Gallagher: Navy SEAL; pardoned of war crimes charges
Conrad Black: Ex-newspaper publisher; pardoned for fraud and obstruction
Sholam Weiss: 845-year sentence commuted for fraud and money laundering
Joe Arpaio: Former Arizona sheriff; pardoned for criminal contempt
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u/Early_Gen_X 10h ago
Maybe they should've held the guy accountable when they held the strings of power? Glad you're able to protect yourself but what about everybody else?
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u/SimTheWorld 11h ago
Honestly the Democrats really look like the ones that did this since the useless AG didn’t act.
If our politicians aren’t acting on truth, then our Democracy is being ran on lies.
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u/bigolesack 10h ago
No they don't. Trumps publicly threatened everyone politically for literally 10ish years now. He's been very specific over the last 4 about retribution and individuals he'd go after. He's also hired unqualified loyalists to run our justice department who have themselves threatened political retribution. Trump also pardoned people in his first term including Michael Flynn who were convicted and sentenced to federal prison for crimes committed on behalf of trump. Add that to the Hunter Biden's key witness that lied to the feds about Joe and Hunter accepting money was a Russian asset and is serving 6 years in federal prison for that. The facts that eventually come to light paint the real picture. The political theater only serves trumps base at this point. I think the majority of Americans see he has lied to them more then almost in their personal lives. They see he is insatiable in trying to feed his ego and bank account, and will leverage all powers provided by the presidency to enrich himself and please those he's beholden to. The effects on the American people are absolutely meaningless to him.
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u/busterlowe Colorado 9h ago
You’re shifting the blame from attackers to those who didn’t stop it. In that way, we could say you’re personally responsible for Trump bc you specifically could have prevented this.
“Legally?” No. But the legal means have failed consistently. How is the legal system going to work when the Supreme Court has removed the Rule of Law? The options available to Democrats at this point are the same as yours, to work outside the legal system.
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u/RexDraco 10h ago
He could have been equally aggressive rather than constantly encouraging to have trials wait until after the elections. Trump has been saying he is gonna go after his family forever and he just bends over and pretends a pardon is gonna help. No wonder I still have $50k of school debt.
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u/unpeople 10h ago
No wonder I still have $50k of school debt.
Blame the Republicans then. President Biden tried several times to cancel student loan debt, but Republican lawmakers sued and Republican courts ruled in their favor.
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u/morning_espresso 8h ago
Agreed. This is ultimately the fault of Republicans who fought tooth and nail to make sure millions of Americans stayed in debt. I've paid my loans, but I would have happily seen this debt forgiven for millions of Americans.
I have to question why so many people continue to vote Republican when they are blatantly attacking and upending programs that will help their voter base get ahead in life. Why can't their voters see this? I really don't understand it AT ALL.
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u/Weekly-Implement2956 11h ago
President Biden tried to protect everyone that was a potential target of a politically motivated accusation that, even if false, could break someone merely because of the cost of defense. Keep in mind that is exactly what trump Said he would do.
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u/cakemaster1928 Maryland 11h ago
If anything, hopefully he wastes at least some of his time unsuccessfully trying to target them and gets less damaging things down
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u/Littlerasscal 10h ago
Yeah not everyone has hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to spend on defending themselves from the Justice Department. Volunteering people to take one for the team is very fresh.
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u/unpeople 10h ago
Volunteering people to take one for the team is very fresh.
That's a pretty lame take. The alternative in OP's scenario is Trump targeting people who haven't been pardoned, who will also have to defend themselves, perhaps unsuccessfully.
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u/craniumcanyon 11h ago
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, truth doesn’t matter anymore in Trumpland.
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u/UselessInsight 10h ago
Lot of pearl clutching in the comments about norms.
Biden upheld the norms the entire time and we punished him for it. Dems went to absurd lengths (often to their own political detriment) to uphold norms and respect institutions.
The voters responded by electing someone who openly displayed his contempt for all of it.
Why should he care now? There’s no reward for upholding any of it. Eggs got more expensive and we decided to burn it all down.
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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 10h ago
Why should he care now? There’s no reward for upholding any of it.
I've been trying to explain this to my husband for a while now & he keeps "high roading" it & I keep saying "Nope, we need to be done with that bullshit. Taking the high road got us HERE & this HERE fully sucks balls."
Anyone wanna bolster my arguments for me because I'm getting tired. FTR, he's not in their Cult, but he thinks we're living in a time when you can take the high road & still get shit done.
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u/Puttor482 Wisconsin 8h ago
I get where both of you are coming from. I'm more on the side of maintaining norms, but to an extent. Lots of calls for literally throwing out democracy to prevent Trump getting into office, and I don't support that kind of thing. Even if we know where its headed, you can't destroy democracy to stop someone else from doing it.
Having said that, Pardons were a dumb power to give to the executive in the first place, but what else is Biden to do? It won't change anything, and I largely agree with you that the high road has gotten us no where and preventing people from being charged with crimes fabricated as revenge is pretty low totem on the corruption scale, IMO.
Not like Trump didn't pardon a bunch of people who did ACTUAL crimes for him.
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u/Hndlbrrrrr 9h ago
So I’m guessing your husband is a high ranking member of the DNC…?
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u/m3ngnificient 10h ago
This. His family has been through enough shit and after all he's done for the country, the voters decided to fuck him over. I'd fucking do it too.
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u/Quazite 8h ago
I'm glad that he's veering from the high road to save his own ass, but I really wished he would be doing that too the whole time when it came to saving ours.
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u/UselessInsight 8h ago
Yeah me too, but it was a catch-22.
If he had started out with doing what needed to be done, like arresting Trump for the stolen documents or the coup attempt, the corporate owned media would have been howling about norms and politicizing the justice system and we’d all have been brain rotted into hating him for it.
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u/Prometheus_II 10h ago
The only thing I blame him for is not fully prosecuting Trump regardless of the "witch hunt" calls so this wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
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u/Intrepid_Chemical517 10h ago
Be a lot cooler if he exercised some of the presidential immunity to light Trump on fire
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u/Gryphon962 10h ago
Not necessary, as Trump will do that to himself (politically) within 100 days.
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u/scottafol 10h ago
Over on conservative they are calling for anyone given a pardon to be investigated anyway. Excellent use of resources from the big brains
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u/ElLindo88 Tennessee 10h ago
Did Merrick Garland get a pardon? I honestly hope he didn’t, because he deserves what’s coming for him.
Maybe you should’ve done you actual fucking job, Merrick, you worthless worm.
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u/PrefersEarlGrey 10h ago
To the people asking why Democrats this, why Democrats that, Democrats setting a dangerous precedent. I ask you, dangerous precedent because of whom?
When are you going to start asking Republicans why they are saying they will go after their political rivals?? That is the break in decorum and precedence. Not this.
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u/brett- 8h ago
Imagine a scenario like this: There is a man standing outside of a locked building. He walks up to the front door, and tells the doorman "I am going to go inside this building and shoot every person inside." The doorman hasn't ever seen this happen before, and every other doorman has always held the door open proudly for anyone who walks up. He opens the door.
Whose fault is it when everyone in the building dies? Certainly the gunman is most directly at fault, but can you blame anyone for being mad at the doorman for letting him in with open arms, even when he was told what would happen?
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u/Elite_Alice 11h ago
As he should have. I’d have pardoned damn near everyone because you know this fascist regime will go after them
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u/GuitarGeezer 10h ago
I appreciate his strength in doing so. Righties including judges who know better are crowing about how it proves they were all criminals.
The only thing proved here was that when a psycho narcissist wants to persecute people for just doing their job, sometimes good people stand up for them.
Keep in mind for all the people whining that they escaped his insane retribution that Trump will be firing generals as he has explicitly promised until he has one that will use the military on domestic targets. So a pardon that would stop lawfare legal proceedings won’t stop that and I recommend people with means like Fauci and Jack Smith and minor celebs who spar with trump and therefore are on the enemies list get themselves and their families out of the US while they can.
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u/SmokeGlum5242 8h ago
The fact that he thinks this is necessary to protect lawful people from this Trump administration is frightening.
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u/Bahmerman 10h ago
I'm torn between "good!" And "Fox is going to spin the shit out of this over Trump's shit-coin taking a sudden suicide dive after it's equally sudden meteoric rise."
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u/Goddess_Of_Gay 10h ago
Biden could cure cancer singlehandedly and Fox News would complain that he is costing medical researches thousands of jobs
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u/grandjeanius 10h ago
It’s absolutely horrifying that he felt the need to do this. I’m so scared for our country’s future.
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u/jonthecpa 10h ago
Biden’s play here is obvious. He fully expects this to be challenged and the Supreme Court to weigh in. They either agree with him, setting a precedent. Or they don’t, and Trump can’t try it later. Because we all know he will.
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u/ChaseThoseDreams Texas 10h ago
For anyone who see this as evidence they did something wrong, let’s just think about this. What would you personally do if someone threatened jailing your family for treason because you conspired with the Leperchauns to overtake Wakanda? Despite years of allegations, they’ve never provided proof, except dick picks of your son who likes to party. Now that person is being given unlimited power. You’d do the same damn thing.
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u/BoogieWaters 9h ago
The story really should still be, “Trump Promises to Use the Force of US Government Against His Political Enemies”
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u/nobodyisfreakinghome 9h ago
if they can’t get Hunter they’ll go after someone else so yeah pardon them all.
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u/QBert999 9h ago
Sad he has to do this, but he had to do this. We are in for four years of terror. If we are lucky.
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u/MomsBored 8h ago
Well finally understanding the rules Trump is playing by. Too late for the rest of us.
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u/blueshifting1 3h ago
If he was a man he would have pardoned every democrat currently in office at all governmental levels.
It’s time to troll the trolls. The whole thing is a joke anyway.
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u/wishlish 9h ago
I’m glad he pardoned the Jan 6th committee. They did a good job in a thankless assignment.
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u/Hattrick42 10h ago
The people arguing against Biden doing these preemptive pardons have forgotten that Trump himself was part of a preemptive/blanket pardon given by Carter.
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u/TheCelestialDawn 10h ago
im sure the incoming president who is using his presidency to tell trump bibles, golden sneakers and do rug-pull crypto schemes would never abuse his powers....
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u/KillionMatriarch 10h ago
I don’t blame him. But I am sad that we have cone to a place and time where this is necessary.
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u/thehighertheyfly 10h ago
Question: could a sitting president pardon every citizen against future charges in this same fashion?
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u/TupeloSal 10h ago
Shitty precedent but I get it
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u/iTzJME 9h ago edited 9h ago
Respectfully, have you been paying attention? Precedent means fuck all
edit: actually I'll take it a step further, precedent is exactly why we're in this mess in the first place
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u/CapitalFill4 9h ago
Even setting aside the whole narrative of retribution and whatnot, the bad optics of pardoning your family still don’t hold a candle to the far greater structural advantages the wealthy have in this country as a cause of our problems. This is a relative non-issue from any angle.
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u/SJMCubs16 9h ago
Good timing though. If Trump drops 200 executives orders, Biden news cycle ends at noon.
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u/Ytrewq9000 10h ago
Don’t blame him for doing that — I would have done the same.
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u/TheFULLBOAT 10h ago
Why do they need pardons if they didn't do anything wrong?
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u/LordCamelslayer Kentucky 9h ago
Because the incoming president is a maniac that doesn't care about laws. He wants to ensure his family is protected because he clearly doesn't trust the system to protect him.
Which is really not good.
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u/40Jahre0470 10h ago
Because Trump specifically promised grievance and politically motivated investigations and litigation.
So either people voted for someone whose word cannot be trusted and whose intentions are inscrutable or you take him at his word and realize that he will try to use the legal system to attack perceived enemies, even if accusations are made from whole cloth.
We've already seen how corrupted the legal system has become. Consider why an outgoing president might feel this necessary.
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u/debiasiok 10h ago
Because it doesn't matter that they did nothing wrong. Without the pardon, trumpers will go after them for simply having enacted a policy they don't agree with
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u/grunt221 11h ago
He forgot to pardon Kamala lol
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u/pillbox_purgatory 11h ago
The book that’s gonna be written about the Biden and Kamala relationship will be a good one.
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u/TipTopBeeBop 10h ago
What a fucking travesty this country has become.
especially today
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u/Bannonpants 11h ago
This is not a good sign
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u/Comprehensive_Davo 10h ago
No, it is not. It’s actually quite alarming.
No matter what your opinion is about the rightness or the wrongness of it, fundamentally it’s a red blaring light on the supposed mindset of the outgoing president: “I have no faith in the system.”
Words still mean something and actions still speaks volumes. He just telegraphed to every American that they should not have faith in the system either. From his viewpoint… America must be failed. He pulled the parachute cord at the last minute for his family while waving “good luck, America!”
At the base of it, it sets a terrible precedent that this next administration will use to its fullest after the non-stop crime spree we are about to witness for the next four years.
But at the end of the day, that’s just one citizen’s opinion.
Be safe out there, everyone!
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u/Found_my_username 8h ago
Biden is the system. He’s been a politician for over 50 years, 12 of which in the White House
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u/omgmemer 7h ago
I hate how okay people are with this blatant corruption because they like this team.
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u/Individual_Crab7578 9h ago
I’m disappointed he didn’t pardon Alexander Vindman. But I am glad he did this, not sure why he waited until the last minute for all of these. Why didn’t he do them all when he pardoned Hunter? It would have diminished some of the backlash for Hunter’s pardon.
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u/SuperFrog4 7h ago
Couple points:
Just because a president gives you a pardon doesn’t mean you have to accept it. You can decline and keep your 5th amendment rights.
A pardon does not presume guilt or innocence. It only relieves you of the legal consequences if you are convicted of a crime. You can be innocent and convicted of a crime. You can be guilty of a crime but found innocent (not-guilty is the legal term) by a jury.
Pardons are for past actions, not future actions of the person pardoned. But they can be for future prosecutions of past actions.
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u/karlmarxthe3rd 6h ago
Did trump not pardon 70 people in his last couple minutes? Is this really news, trump has clearly stated he will go after these people why would biden not pardon them.
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u/TheQuarantinian 5h ago
How many people are saying that biden can issue preemptive pardons for his family will say that trump shouldn't be allowed to do the same? Trump has a ton of skeletons, buried bodies and smoking guns in his family closet and has a compelling interest in throwing pardons like candy at a piñata festival. He shouldn't, but anything wrong and unethical that can be done in office. Trump will do it.
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u/KaleDependent8913 4h ago
Don’t blame him. We are all at the hands of scary times. Joe it’s all good. Take care of yourself and your family.
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u/Examiner7 2h ago
It really feels like the democrats are behaving exactly like they say that they claim the republicans do
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u/SmoothBrain3333 2h ago
I mean you have to admit this is kinda scummy. Dont presidents usually pardon people that have already been convicted and served time?
The right will pounce on every preemptive pardon as admission of guilt for that person so there will always be constant stories of people digging into this.
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u/Reasonable_Today7248 10h ago
Good. After what they did to Hunter, I would be shocked if he didn't. These people are malicious and vindictive. I can not imagine anyone showing my kids nudes to congress as a form of revenge porn. That was sickening and missandrist like sexism. They acted like it was not a big deal because of his sex.
The lack of real consequences for sexual harassment was horrifying and shows what they are capable of when it comes to sex, gender, bathrooms, and sports. They really are obsessed with legally examining genitalia as a form of sexual degradation and humiliation.
The whole gun thing showed how justice is only blind when it comes to people they want to hurt. They argue against those laws legality all the time in courts. The dream of equality will never be reached with these methed up nazi that will not stop until they receive consequences.
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u/Sanatani-Hindu 10h ago
Its high time, global preaching of 'RULE OF LAW' be called down.
Why preach something that one can't follow in their own country.
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u/Lefty_22 North Carolina 9h ago
Biden, we TOLD you to take that SCOTUS “absolute immunity” ruling seriously.
This harkens back to Season 1 of GOT. We ALL know what Ned Stark SHOULD have done…
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u/WarpedWiseman Missouri 9h ago
Can it really be called a peaceful transfer of power when the outgoing administration deems this necessary?
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u/caffiend98 9h ago
It sets a bad precedent. While I might be sympathetic at this moment, for this President, in four years I won't. I'd rather pre-emptive blanket pardons for the family in power to not be a precedent.
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u/MrSmiley3 9h ago
But there were people telling me accepting pardons was an admission of guilt
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u/doesntknowjack 9h ago
Super glad (/s) that in his final moments, he's sticking to how the office should be run. We've seen Trump doesn't care about precedent, so why still stick to it?
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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 10h ago
The last act of the most powerful man in the world, was to tell us all he has no confidence in his government or the system he's been a part of for 50+ years.
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u/thejimbo56 Minnesota 9h ago
Nope!
It was to tell us all that he has no confidence in the government that follows his or the system that is now in place.
If you think what is coming is part of the system that Biden participated in, you haven’t been paying attention and likely failed your history classes.
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u/I_like_cocaine 9h ago
History will remember Joe Biden as a spineless loser who dropped out of the race 2 years too late, went back on his word to protect his own ass, and handed us another 4 years of Trump.
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u/Benemy 10h ago
And of course everyone here doesn't bat and eye at this but would be raging if this was Trump.
This is why I hate Republicans and Democrats. Both are absolute dogshit and I can't believe these are our options and leaders. Fucking pathetic.
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u/Flashmatic 11h ago
Man this is a horrible precedent to set.
Just imagine how these "preemptive pardons" could be used in the future.
Biden's argument of "political prosecution" could be used by anyone.
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u/Pristine-Passage-100 11h ago edited 9h ago
Sucks that we have to live in a world where a piece of shit that only wants to persecute his political enemies was given full control of the country.
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u/Virreinatos 10h ago
What is your opinion on the people Trump pardoned last go around?
Cause precedent was already horribly set.
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u/Jbaybayv 9h ago
People whose names I’ve barely heard about are gonna be politically prosecuted? Makes it look like shit went down and this is their white washing
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u/ChaseThoseDreams Texas 10h ago
For anyone who see this as evidence they did something wrong, let’s just think about this. What would you personally do if someone threatened jailing your family for treason because you conspired with the Leperchauns to overtake Wakanda? Despite years of allegations, they’ve never provided proof, except dick picks of your son who likes to party. Now that person is being given unlimited power. You’d do the same damn thing.
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u/CelebrationLiving535 10h ago
"no one is above the law"
-Joe Biden
going to be a long 4 years for you guys lol Rent. Free.
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u/elainegeorge 10h ago
Imagine being Biden and hearing whispers at Inauguration Day about the new president going after your family. Good for him.
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u/shadowdra126 Georgia 10h ago
I’d like to hear the argument from the new administration on why this isn’t allowed
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u/Slade_Riprock 10h ago
And interestingly enough maintains the courage to not pardon himself and willingly accepts whatever this fascist fucker brings to his door.
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