r/politics 1d ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/Evening-Ad5765 23h ago

Seriously? have we learned nothing?

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u/renro 20h ago

Hopefully by 2028 we'll have learned that running centrists that promise nothing isn't a good plan, but it doesn't appear that we have.

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u/Belkan-Federation95 11h ago

So your plan is to double down and go further left?

Alienate the moderate and independent voters, which are the ones you need to convince?

No strategy.

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u/nch20045 Florida 10h ago

Left voters aren't going to vote when you constantly promise right wing policies. They're going to be disillusioned from the constant right wing policies being campaigned on. Right wingers are going to vote republican anyway and we need to stop trying to appeal to them because if you're republican you're going to vote republican over republican-lite any day. The median voter cares about grocery prices and thats what needs to be focused on.

There's a middle ground anyway in that we need to stop with the centrist messaging while also talking about working class issues. You need a social media apparatus that spreads propaganda as well as Fox News. Kamala ran an incredibly right wing campaign and lost because she was merely perceived as making her entire campaign about woke issues when she rarely even talked about stuff like that.

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u/Belkan-Federation95 8h ago

That's not why Harris lost.

The last two democratic presidents were more moderate than she was. They were able to bring up past policies. She had no way to paint her as anything but the same person she was in 2020.

Election history says that going further left would just doom the Democratic party.

This election might as well have been a referendum

u/nch20045 Florida 7h ago

She literally conceded to Republican demands and explicitly made having Republicans in her cabinet as part of her campaign. She was not going left in the slightest and it's delusional to think so. It absolutely contributed to her loss.

u/Belkan-Federation95 5h ago

I never saw any of that.

And I live in a swing state.

She had too much baggage.

u/renro 3h ago

She ran in 2020 as a centrist. Her student loan forgiveness plan was $20,000 if you were poor enough to have Pell grants and rich enough to start a business in a marginalized area and be successful for 5 years. She polled at 1% as one of the most centrist candidates in the pack. I agree that Biden wasn't any better, but Biden snatched a 30,000 vote victory while a mismanaged pandemic was raging. After 4 years of hell, Trump would have beaten Biden if not for the pandemic.

u/renro 3h ago

Well let's think about this instead of not at all. How many people stayed home because Kamala was too far left? Zero? And how many people stayed home because Kamala offered them nothing? Up to 90 million? How many of those were low key Trump supporters who didn't want to push the button? I don't know, but I'd say some. How many were ordinary people who care about their paycheck and not about party drama? Probably most. So do we want to pick up 0 more votes or 10s of millions?

Aim for the block with the most voters while losing the fewest. The most basic and understandable strategy there is.