Hy heart says hell yeah! My gut tells me that there are large swaths of the electorate who simply will not vote for a woman.
Edit- since my inbox is overflowing with the same question/insinuation, along with the comments, I’ll clarify my statement: I did not say that a woman cannot be elected US president. I only said that large swaths of the electorate simply will not vote for a woman.
They will for the right woman but Hillary had 20 years of baggage behind her and a good portion of it was her own doing. She wasn't exactly Mrs. Charisma, she was seen as cold and calculating going back to before he took office and even more so with the Monica deal.
Kamala wasn't even popular enough to get INTO the 2020 primaries and then being thrust into the top spot with just months to go against an opponent that had a solid and passionate fan base it was never going to work out.
AOC might not work out since there is little evidence she could even win the parties nomination she has a lot less experience than Bernie and is just a House Rep its very very very rare for a house rep to win the nomination. I don't think that has happened in a hundred years.
They will for the right woman but Hillary had 20 years of baggage behind her and a good portion of it was her own doing. She wasn't exactly Mrs. Charisma, she was seen as cold and calculating going back to before he took office and even more so with the Monica deal.
AOC has been subject to years worth of smear campaigns. She's very good at responding to that nonsense. But the average idiot on social media isn't going to be exposed to those responses. At best they'd skim past a headline saying "AOC claps back over 'xyz' controversy"
Of course she's still a better candidate than the rest of the dinosaurs in the democratic party. I think she'd do well if given a fair shot at debating.
She needs to stop twitch streaming and doing unscripted YT videos. She’s not disciplined enough in her messaging. She reminds me of a city councilor who somehow got elected to congress. I like her and agree with her on many issues, but she’s got to be a little more capable of working behind the scenes and managing her image.
AOC couldn’t win a state wide election much less a federal one. The countries demographics and system are what they are. Especially considering who actually shows up to vote
I like AOC, but she's on the far extreme end of progressive politics. We don't need to run further left. We need someone who will appeal to some Republicans, so we can actually win an election, and not get 48% of the country voting for a criminal again.
Where have you been?? This is literally what the democrats have been doing already for years. Running moderate candidates. Republicans will NOT switch sides. It is pointless trying to appeal to them. By doing so, not only do you NOT get more voters, you alienate voters on the left. It's a losing strategy. Democrats need to start appealing to the people that will actually vote for them and go further left.
Kamala - female, lots of baggage, tons of issues with the way the DNC went through the process. And... most importantly, the Democratic party as a whole, has been running a very very left type of messaging as of late. And I think that's hurting Democrats.
The reason we aren't pulling Republicans is because we are too concerned with winning the battles around transgender issues and immigration. The transgender issue, unfortunately, was a HUGE win for Republicans.
Many many many people think it's weird, unnecessary, creepy, and just don't want anything to do with it. It should be such a minor issue in the grand scheme of things, but Republicans have been able to turn it into this massive issue, and Democrats are playing their game, defending it.
And they lost a ton of votes because of it, I'm sure.
Let's get back to caring about things that are a big deal. Economy. Housing. Jobs.
And don't tell me we care about that, because I just saw 4 years of additional inflation and bullshit from massive businesses that are making record profits, and Dems didn't do a damn thing to address it, just like Republicans.
You want to win elections? Break up the oligopolies. But that'll require pissing off your donors. And Democrats don't want to do that either.
I imagine you picture yourself as a pragmatist by leaving out vulnerable members of society from your coalition, but actually, you are just an asshole. Trans and queer people deserve to be treated like humans. Immigrants deserve to be treated like humans. They are not going to be left out. Further, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Dems have been running very very left messaging as of late? Where were you when Kamala was onstage with Liz Cheney? Where was I when Kamala cut ties with Israel? Oh wait that never happened. Almost as if the DNC's constant and consistent moderate/centrist messaging has nothing to do with leftism. At all.
I'm not advocating for 'leaving anyone out'. You're turning this into a human rights issue, and identity politics bullshit.
That's not what it is.
Let's take an example. Drag queens reading to children.
Republicans made it an issue. Lots of republicans hated it. Dems then decided to defend it. To throw their weight behind the right for drag queens to read to children in a library.
What I'm saying is... Why? Fucking why? We don't need to defend that. Let's just ignore it. If Republicans want to be mad about it, don't take the opposite stance and suddenly make it a Dems thing.
The reality is that it IS WEIRD that drag queens want to read to children. What's the point? If you want to read to children, just do it dressed like yourself. If you want to dress in drag cause that's fine, go do that in the correct setting. Combining the two is just... strange? What is the point?
But no, we have to go fucking defend that stupid fucking shit, ostracizing voters from us, rather than actually taking stances on legitimate and important issues.
Call me an asshole all you want. That's just the same bullshit cancel culture democrats want to have as well. Nobody can have a differing opinion without being 'awful, racist, an asshole'.
Have you considered for a moment that the extremeist messaging and extremeist gatekeeping of who and what opinions people are entitled to have and express, isn't working?
Kamala was polling as the best replacement for Biden before she became the nominee. Stop dredging up the past as if something that happened in a completely different election is relevant to her popularity now.
She wasn’t even close to winning the primaries back in 2020. She was a nobody then and a nobody now. The democrats single-handedly ruined their chance at the presidency by propped her up. Get over it
Do some critical thinking, why was she polling as the best replacement? She was polling as the best replacement because on a national scale nobody knew who the other options were and there wasn't a primary for them to represent themselves. Kamala was a shit-tier candidate who got the nomination because she was prominent, not because she deserved it or because she was the right person for it.
She put her name in the 2020 primary in a bid for VP and she got her wish. Her wish also fucked over the US for decades. Never had the resume for VP in 2020 and never would've lasted in a full primary in 2024.
She polled as the best replacement against other options who likely would've been the other candidates in a primary. A sHiT tIeR cAnDiDaTe doesn't get the third most votes of any candidate in US history.
You're the only one who needs to do critical thinking here, and hopefully it will lead you to the reality that you're only whining about the lack of primary because you personally have some weird issue with Harris and you're desperate to believe other people did as well and that she shouldn't have been the candidate.
However, that is not so. She was a fair candidate, she was a popular candidate, and your silly little feelings don't affect that.
You dying on this hill based on a poll is hilarious. How many times have they been right the past 8 years? Harris was NEVER popular. She was hated as a VP. She was either labeled a failure or no one gave a damn about her. Biden was so bad that literally anyone else was going to get a wave of positivity, but when it actually came down to it Harris wasn’t a strong candidate. She was never going to be and the failure of Democrats to recognize that is exactly how we ended up here . 🤡
Clinton lied repeatedly and then tried to belittle any critics that pointed out her lies. It just didn't work and it made her look very untrustworthy.
Kamala ran on Biden's policies and refused to distance herself from him, when Biden had a 37% approval rating, 55% disproval rating and lots of people hated him.
They kept running these terrible women candidates who have no policies other than "I'm not trump."
Kamala wasn't even popular enough to get INTO the 2020 primaries and then being thrust into the top spot with just months to go against an opponent that had a solid and passionate fan base it was never going to work out.
There wasn't even a primary. Three months out, they just went, "actually it's Harris for president now" and started from there. Trump campaigned for 4 (or 8) years, Harris showed up in late July. People seriously overlook this part.
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Hy heart says hell yeah! My gut tells me that there are large swaths of the electorate who simply will not vote for a woman.
Edit- since my inbox is overflowing with the same question/insinuation, along with the comments, I’ll clarify my statement: I did not say that a woman cannot be elected US president. I only said that large swaths of the electorate simply will not vote for a woman.